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Haha ... well, both actually ;o)
In the quoted statement however, I was referring to the attitude of the general
populace towards IT, in that they don't know what the hell any of us do but
figure we must be responsible anyway each time
ought to just be able to wave their magic wands and
make it happen with little investment of time or money.
John
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 3:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Morale killer...
I've found that attitudes vary
Yup .. I keep a spare wand in my drawer. It's beside the make is
secure button ...
a
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: 08 March 2011 11:38
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Morale killer...
My argument wasn't
killer...
Yup .. I keep a spare wand in my drawer. It's beside the make is secure
button ...
a
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: 08 March 2011 11:38
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Morale killer...
My
:38
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* RE: Morale killer...
My argument wasn’t so much that the business side doesn’t understand the
**value** of IT so much as they don’t understand IT itself, and what’s
required to keep IT systems running smoothly.
They love it when IT systems
of the business with which you've not had much familiarity.
Personally, after doing all this I'd be looking for your manager's job
though! ;o)
a
From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: 04 March 2011 18:51
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Morale
)
a
From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: 04 March 2011 18:51
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Morale killer...
vent mode:on
I asked for a promotion to Sr. Systems Engineer but I have been denied.
Talking to my boss she feels I am qualified but her boss
2011 13:18
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Morale killer...
I would argue that cross-business exposure and involvement is already a
necessity for sys admins and engineers who do not want to be mistaken for mere
commodities.
Used to be a manager thing, but no longer limited to that level
...
a
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*From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* 07 March 2011 13:18
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* RE: Morale killer...
I would argue that cross-business exposure and involvement is already a
necessity for sys admins and engineers who do not want to be mistaken
agree with that,
too, though. So either way, I think I'm agreeing with him.
John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
www.taylor.k12.fl.us
From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 10:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
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was the original posting ...
a
From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: 07 March 2011 15:21
To: NT System Admin Issues
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With the general business level ignorance of IT...
Let's just say that I disagree with this particular
.fl.us]
Sent: 07 March 2011 16:26
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Subject: RE: Morale killer...
I wish you wouldn't leave it at that-I'm enjoying this discussion! :-)
If Alan is saying that IT folks tend to be somewhat ignorant of the
business side of things, I agree. Although I think he's instead
Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://dabcc.com/Webster http://dabcc.com/Webster
From: MMF [mailto:mmfree...@ameritech.net]
Subject: RE: Morale killer...
I've been in the computer field for nearly 50 years. Before there were
certs, there was a general
working for the
same organisation.
Cheers
Ken
From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2011 2:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Morale killer...
vent mode:on
I asked for a promotion to Sr. Systems Engineer but I have been denied. Talking
to my boss she feels I
March 2011 7:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Morale killer...
I update my certifications periodically. However, I use them as a supplement
to experience and in the past, I and several friends have been in situations
where it came down to two candidates with similar experience but we
vent mode:on
I asked for a promotion to Sr. Systems Engineer but I have been denied. Talking
to my boss she feels I am qualified but her boss disagrees - not because I
don't fit the roles and skill set of a Sr. SE as listed in our job description,
but because she wants to see more broad scoped
is right, just tossing out some thoughts.
From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 1:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Morale killer...
vent mode:on
I asked for a promotion to Sr. Systems Engineer but I have been denied. Talking
to my boss she feels I am
, March 04, 2011 1:51 PM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Morale killer...
vent mode:on
I asked for a promotion to Sr. Systems Engineer but I have been denied.
Talking to my boss she feels I am qualified but her boss disagrees – not
because I don’t fit the roles and skill set
:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Morale killer...
The interesting catch-22 is that if you start proposing broad, strategic
proposals, you often get told that you don't understand the full picture, and
to just stick what what you were hired to do.
My advice to David is to vent
Message -
From: David Lum
To: NT System Admin Issues
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 11:51 AM
Subject: Morale killer...
vent mode:on
I asked for a promotion to Sr. Systems Engineer but I have been denied.
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Subject: Morale killer...
vent mode:on
I asked for a promotion to Sr. Systems Engineer but I have been denied.
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David,
These types of scenarios can definitely be frustrating. Especially when it's
acknowledged that you're qualified for the position. I don't mean to sound
like I'm trying to one up you or anything, but I find myself in a similar
predicament. I've been in the field almost as long as you, and
Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
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David,
These types of scenarios can definitely be frustrating. Especially when it's
acknowledged that you're qualified for the position. I don't mean to sound
like
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Morale killer...
An A+?!?! For a senior person?!? I'd run away. I've never had an A+ in
my 15 years nor do I have a current MCanything.
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From: Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.com
: * NT System Admin Issues
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
*Subject: *Re: Morale killer...
David,
These types of scenarios can definitely be frustrating. Especially when
it's acknowledged that you're qualified for the position. I don't mean to
sound like I'm trying to one up you
@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
*ReplyTo: *NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
*Subject: *Re: Morale killer...
David,
These types of scenarios can definitely be frustrating. Especially when
it's acknowledged that you're qualified for the position. I don't mean to
sound like
-software.com
*Subject: *Re: Morale killer...
David,
These types of scenarios can definitely be frustrating. Especially when
it's acknowledged that you're qualified for the position. I don't mean to
sound like I'm trying to one up you or anything, but I find myself in a
similar predicament. I've
Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Morale killer...
Yeah, someone didn't think it through when those requirements were added to
existing employee's transcripts. An MCSE requirement also appeared, and the
description states the following:
The Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer (MCSE) credential
: *Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.com
*Date: *Fri, 4 Mar 2011 10:47:28 -0900
*To: *NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
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ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
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David,
These types of scenarios can
the value to the exec
level.
Erik Goldoff
IT Consultant
Systems, Networks, Security
' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '
From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 1:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Morale killer...
vent mode:on
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From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 12:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Morale killer...
I have my original A+ (somewhere) from back when I did on site warranty work
for our
. In talking to friends, relatives and co-workers, the great
majority would quit their job if they won the lottery or inherited a
fortune. Nuff said!
Murray
_
From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 2:07 PM
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Subject: RE: Morale killer
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From: MMF [mailto:mmfree...@ameritech.net]
Subject: RE: Morale killer...
I've been in the computer field for nearly 50 years. Before there were
certs, there was a general shortage of computer people, not to mention
experienced people. Back then, I had friends
+1
Erik Goldoff
IT Consultant
Systems, Networks, Security
' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '
From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 5:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Morale killer...
I still have my MCSE lapel
-software.com
*Subject: *Re: Morale killer...
David,
These types of scenarios can definitely be frustrating. Especially when
it's acknowledged that you're qualified for the position. I don't mean to
sound like I'm trying to one up you or anything, but I find myself in a
similar predicament. I've
is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '
From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 5:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Morale killer...
I still have my MCSE lapel pin...
John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
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