Re: Curious networking anomaly in Win7 Pro box

2012-02-03 Thread Kurt Buff
- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 3:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Curious networking anomaly in Win7 Pro box True, but at this point it's beyond my control, so emotional investment in the outcome is pointless.. On Wed, Feb 1

RE: Curious networking anomaly in Win7 Pro box

2012-02-03 Thread Kim Longenbaugh
:) -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 2:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Curious networking anomaly in Win7 Pro box Oh, I'm no Spock - that's a hard-learned lesson for me, with occasional reminders needed. BTW

RE: Curious networking anomaly in Win7 Pro box

2012-02-01 Thread Kim Longenbaugh
The trace routes weren't informative? -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 4:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Curious networking anomaly in Win7 Pro box Not dropping in the sense you mean - I'd still see

Re: Curious networking anomaly in Win7 Pro box

2012-02-01 Thread Kurt Buff
: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 4:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Curious networking anomaly in Win7 Pro box Not dropping in the sense you mean - I'd still see a traceroute or other ICMP packets in tcpdump, but they wouldn't go anywhere. More

Re: Curious networking anomaly in Win7 Pro box

2012-02-01 Thread Kurt Buff
...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 4:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Curious networking anomaly in Win7 Pro box Not dropping in the sense you mean - I'd still see a traceroute or other ICMP packets in tcpdump, but they wouldn't go anywhere. More to the point, pings

RE: Curious networking anomaly in Win7 Pro box

2012-02-01 Thread Kim Longenbaugh
The suspense is killing me... :) -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 2:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Curious networking anomaly in Win7 Pro box I've just learned that he's on the road on an emergency service

Re: Curious networking anomaly in Win7 Pro box

2012-02-01 Thread Kurt Buff
Subject: Re: Curious networking anomaly in Win7 Pro box I've just learned that he's on the road on an emergency service call. I may not hear from him for days... Kurt On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 06:41, Kim Longenbaugh k...@colonialsavings.com wrote: The trace routes weren't informative

Re: Curious networking anomaly in Win7 Pro box

2012-02-01 Thread Jonathan Link
... :) -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 2:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Curious networking anomaly in Win7 Pro box I've just learned that he's on the road on an emergency service call. I may not hear from him

Re: Curious networking anomaly in Win7 Pro box

2012-02-01 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Kim Longenbaugh k...@colonialsavings.com wrote: I've just learned that he's on the road on an emergency service call. I may not hear from him for days... The suspense is killing me...  :) That reminds me of: http://www.gifbin.com/982501 ;-) (No offense

RE: Curious networking anomaly in Win7 Pro box

2012-02-01 Thread Kim Longenbaugh
Hahahaha, the old see other side joke for the information age. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 3:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Curious networking anomaly in Win7 Pro box On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 3:49 PM

Re: Curious networking anomaly in Win7 Pro box

2012-02-01 Thread Kurt Buff
System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Curious networking anomaly in Win7 Pro box I've just learned that he's on the road on an emergency service call. I may not hear from him for days... Kurt On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 06:41, Kim Longenbaugh k...@colonialsavings.com wrote: The trace

RE: Curious networking anomaly in Win7 Pro box

2012-02-01 Thread Kim Longenbaugh
Well said, Mr. Spock -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 3:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Curious networking anomaly in Win7 Pro box True, but at this point it's beyond my control, so emotional investment

RE: Curious networking anomaly in Win7 Pro box

2012-01-31 Thread Kim Longenbaugh
Compare trace routes from the anomalous machine to the devices you can connect to with trace routes to the ones you can't. Check firewall logs for drops. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 12:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues

Re: Curious networking anomaly in Win7 Pro box

2012-01-31 Thread Kurt Buff
No drops at the firewall. Forgot to have him do a traceroute - the firewall doesn't allow traceroutes to pass through it, so that doesn't usually occur to me, but in this case it would prove useful. I'll have him try that. Kurt On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 11:04, Kim Longenbaugh

Re: Curious networking anomaly in Win7 Pro box

2012-01-31 Thread Steve Kradel
Doesn't this imply you are dropping at least some ICMP at the firewall, then? On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: No drops at the firewall. Forgot to have him do a traceroute - the firewall doesn't allow traceroutes to pass through it, so that doesn't usually

Re: Curious networking anomaly in Win7 Pro box

2012-01-31 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: We put Wireshark on this machine, and it thinks its emitting the ICMP packets, but when I fired up tcpdump on the internal interface of the firewall for his office, I verified that it was not seeing packets for those

Re: Curious networking anomaly in Win7 Pro box

2012-01-31 Thread Kurt Buff
Not dropping in the sense you mean - I'd still see a traceroute or other ICMP packets in tcpdump, but they wouldn't go anywhere. More to the point, pings to multiple addresses on the same remote subnet are treated the same, and when he's doing the unsuccessful pings, there's nothing in tcpdump -

Re: Curious networking anomaly in Win7 Pro box

2012-01-31 Thread Kurt Buff
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 14:20, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: We put Wireshark on this machine, and it thinks its emitting the ICMP packets, but when I fired up tcpdump on the internal interface of the firewall for

Re: Curious networking anomaly in Win7 Pro box

2012-01-31 Thread Kurt Buff
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 14:20, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: We put Wireshark on this machine, and it thinks its emitting the ICMP packets, but when I fired up tcpdump on the internal interface of the firewall for

Re: Curious networking anomaly in Win7 Pro box

2012-01-31 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 6:51 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: I just confirmed, it's happening to the customer when he's wireless-only as well as wired-only. (he's staying up late tonight, working from home, and answering emails. That's dedication for you...) Wait, does that mean

Re: Curious networking anomaly in Win7 Pro box

2012-01-31 Thread Kurt Buff
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 15:54, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 6:51 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: I just confirmed, it's happening to the customer when he's wireless-only as well as wired-only. (he's staying up late tonight, working from home, and

Re: Curious networking anomaly in Win7 Pro box

2012-01-31 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: It's one subnet for everything in that office, with the firewall as the gateway, no managed switch (I've been trying for years to get one there). Okay, so, basically, one big collision domain, one dumb switch. A wireless

Re: Curious networking anomaly in Win7 Pro box

2012-01-31 Thread Kurt Buff
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 16:33, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: It's one subnet for everything in that office, with the firewall as the gateway, no managed switch (I've been trying for years to get one there).  

Re: Curious networking anomaly in Win7 Pro box

2012-01-31 Thread Jon Harris
That might be the only real way to do it sounds like something went wrong during the upgrade process from XP to 7. Jon On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 16:33, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 6:11 PM,

Re: Curious networking anomaly in Win7 Pro box

2012-01-31 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:  Okay, so, basically, one big collision domain, one dumb switch.  A wireless access point plugged into the switch.  Firewall/router plugged into that same switch.  Yah? Broadcast domain, but yes, you are correct. Er,

Re: Curious networking anomaly in Win7 Pro box

2012-01-31 Thread Kurt Buff
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 17:25, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:  Okay, so, basically, one big collision domain, one dumb switch.  A wireless access point plugged into the switch.  Firewall/router plugged into that same