...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 10:08 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare vs Hyper-V
It's like religion.
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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Nope, I am 'Neon'. Kawi Nomad.
From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 10:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: VMWare vs Hyper-V
'What is the best oil for my motorcycle'.
LOL ... sounds all too familiar ... maybe you know me, ... as Yoda
I had an older HP with embedded RAID controller that had the same issue.
-sc
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 7:42 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare vs Hyper-V
ESXi, but the last one wasn't supported for it's raid
, 2010 12:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: VMWare vs Hyper-V
Anybody have a
free/inexpensive backup solution that will backup a live Hyper-V VM?
Acronis TI server should do that. Not free but not really expensive
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Matthew W. Ross
mr
the
VM's down and copied the VHD's. wbadmin takes care of everything including a
bare metal restore to dissimilar hardware, big win with that.
Carl
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 2:31 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare vs Hyper-V
Sorry did not look it up but the fix I am thinking of was on the MS TechNet
site and involved a registry hack.
Jon
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com wrote:
Is wbadmin what you're referring to?
+1 For VMware, they are by far a more robust, flexible , 3rd party supported,
great tools for it. That being said, they aint cheap setup does require some
extra knowledge but don't think more than learning Hyper-V from scratch
It all depends on your requirements, budget, DR planning etc... I've
...@spragueenergy.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 9:59 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare vs Hyper-V
+1 For VMware, they are by far a more robust, flexible , 3rd party
+supported, great tools for it. That being said, they aint cheap setup
+does require some extra knowledge but don't
It's like religion.
I support customers that love VMWare and I support customers that love Hyper-V.
Personally, I run Hyper-V. I like it.
The feature set isn't exactly the same, but it's quite similar.
Regards,
Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com
Subject: RE: VMWare vs Hyper-V
+1 For VMware, they are by far a more robust, flexible , 3rd party
+supported, great tools for it. That being said, they aint cheap setup
+does require some extra knowledge but don't think more than learning
+Hyper-V from scratch
It all depends on your requirements
one or the other. Personally I am a huge ESX fan.
-Original Message-
From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:cgarciamo...@spragueenergy.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 6:59 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare vs Hyper-V
+1 For VMware, they are by far a more robust
Personally I'd go with vsphere and look at one of the Essentials bundles as
that will give you cluster capability as well as central control from vCenter.
I don't have anything against Hyper-V as I've never actually used it, but my
reservations and reasons for not doing so are two-fold:
1)
Message-
From: Malcolm Reitz [mailto:malcolm.re...@live.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 10:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare vs Hyper-V
I'll argue the converse - for a small, simple virtual environment as the OP
is targeting, Hyper-V is notably easier to configure
wars.
-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 10:08 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare vs Hyper-V
It's like religion.
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http
Microsoft customers, but there's a
large and growing amount of Hyper-V knowledge available in the community.
-Malcolm
-Original Message-
From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 09:24
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: re: VMWare vs Hyper-V
'What is the best oil for my
motorcycle'. That creates some massive threads, no conclusions and a few
minor flame wars.
-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 10:08 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare vs
We choose Hyper-V because it is an excellent solution for no additional fee.
Also, 5 of my 6 servers may have been supported by the free ESXi, but the last
one wasn't supported for it's raid, forcing us to look for a different solution.
The one thing of Hyper-V I was not thrilled about was
I use both Hyper-V (clients) and VMWare (%dayjob%), although admittedly I know
Hyper-V from the ground up and VMWare I just mainly create machines and move
them around. VMWare is more flexible although 2008 R2 Hyper-V is good enough
for actual use - even though my clients are on pre-R2 Hyper-V.
Not mentioned so far but I use Citrix XenServer for my virtualization needs for
Windows servers and XenDesktop. It's a good fit if you are already a Citrix
shop (we are).
Tom Miller
Engineer, Information Technology
Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board
757-788-0528
Kennedy, Jim
[mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 11:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: VMWare vs Hyper-V
Anybody have a free/inexpensive backup solution that will backup a live Hyper-V
VM? I have a server offsite where I want to do a weekly VM image backup for
disasters
2010 16:30
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare vs Hyper-V
1) Hyper-V is Windows - whatever drivers you need to run Windows on that
hardware is what you need for Hyper-V; no different than any other Windows
implementation. If you have a major name server, you'll have the drivers you
For your stated needs (and even some growth beyond that), I would use
Hyper-V.
Both will do the job.
*ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker
*Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...*
* *
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Kennedy, Jim
kennedy...@elyriaschools.orgwrote:
-Moran, Carlos [mailto:cgarciamo...@spragueenergy.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 6:59 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare vs Hyper-V
+1 For VMware, they are by far a more robust, flexible , 3rd party
+supported, great tools for it. That being said, they aint cheap setup
Look at Disk2VHD from SysInternals.
*ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker
*Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...*
* *
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Matthew W. Ross
mr...@ephrataschools.orgwrote:
We choose Hyper-V because it is an excellent solution for no
***The downside of Hyper-V is you have an OS you still have to patch and
reboot regularly which may or may not matter to you.
*
Um... There are quite a number of ESX patches out there, too.
http://secunia.com/advisories/vendor/300/
*ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker
...@mira.co.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 10:52
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare vs Hyper-V
That's exactly my point though, you can end up so dependent upon the right
combination of third party drivers on the box running hyper-v vs. download
vsphere ISO, put in drive, boot, install
of third party drivers on the box running hyper-v vs. download
vsphere ISO, put in drive, boot, install, done.
-Original Message-
From: Malcolm Reitz [mailto:malcolm.re...@live.com]
Sent: 26 October 2010 16:30
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare vs Hyper-V
1) Hyper-V
[mailto:malcolm.re...@live.com]
Sent: 26 October 2010 17:03
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare vs Hyper-V
I get what you are saying, but I'm not really seeing that as an issue, though.
Downloading the VMware ISO with the drivers isn't much different than
downloading the Dell PowerEdge
Subject: Re: VMWare vs Hyper-V
I'm not getting your point, Paul
Where do these supposed dependencies manifest themselves? The HCL for
Windows 2008 R2 is still larger than that of vSphere. If you've
installed Windows on the box, where else do you need to fiddle with NIC
(or other) drivers
[mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* 26 October 2010 17:04
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: VMWare vs Hyper-V
I'm not getting your point, Paul
Where do these supposed dependencies manifest themselves? The HCL for
Windows 2008 R2 is still larger than that of vSphere. If you've installed
Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 9:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare vs Hyper-V
Fair point too, I just know the hassle we had with one Windows server which
would semi-freeze where we were pretty sure the culprit was either EMC
Powerpath
I have zero experience with VMWare, but I've been using Hyper-V here for a year
or so with flawless results. We've moved just about everything over to Hyper-V
VMs at this point--from simple things like basic apps to more advanced stuff
like Exchange.
John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor
System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare vs Hyper-V
Fair point too, I just know the hassle we had with one Windows server which
would semi-freeze where we were pretty sure the culprit was either EMC
Powerpath or the Broadcom NIC teaming drivers but (admittedly perhaps due to
lack of time/skill
Awesome! Thanks for this.
--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District
- Original Message -
From: Andrew S. Baker
[mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Tue, 26 Oct 2010
08:55:05 -0700
Subject: Re: VMWare vs Hyper-V
Look
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From: Klint Price [mailto:kpr...@arizonaitpro.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 12:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare vs Hyper-V
Maybe I am naïve, but I am the type who spreads my eggs into multiple baskets.
I would rather deal with a Windows exploit in an isolated
- Original Message -
From: Matthew W. Ross
[mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Tue, 26 Oct 2010
11:41:53 -0700
Subject: Re: VMWare vs Hyper-V
Awesome! Thanks for this.
--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District
ways)
ESX: Consolidated Backup
Hyper-V: DPM
Sam
-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 3:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: VMWare vs Hyper-V
Quick question: Would you run Disk2vhd on each Hyper-V VM, or just
is a religious war. You will find people who
like
one or the other. Personally I am a huge ESX fan.
-Original Message-
From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:cgarciamo...@spragueenergy.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 6:59 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare vs Hyper-V
+1
]
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 6:59 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare vs Hyper-V
+1 For VMware, they are by far a more robust, flexible , 3rd party
+supported, great tools for it. That being said, they aint cheap setup
+does require some extra knowledge but don't think more
for this kind of need. Performance, with a properly
configured system, shouldn't be an issue, either.
-Malcolm
-Original Message-
From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:cgarciamo...@spragueenergy.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 08:59
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare vs
There is a fix that I would have to go looking for again but it used the
built-in backup on the host to do the entire machine host and vms all live.
I had 6 VM's running on a Dell 2950. Total on box about 1.3 GB and it would
take about 2 to 4 hours to do the full image backups and the VMs stayed
ESXi, but the last one wasn't supported for it's raid
From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 6:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: VMWare vs Hyper-V
There is a fix that I would have to go looking for again but it used the
built
Is wbadmin what you're referring to?
http://www.mcbsys.com/techblog/2009/11/setting-up-windows-server-backup-on-hyper-v-server-2008-r2/
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@gmail.com wrote:
There is a fix that I would have to go looking for again but it used the
built-in
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