Re: Um, WTF?

2010-11-19 Thread Jeff Bunting
Here's another take on this incident: http://asert.arbornetworks.com/2010/11/china-hijacks-15-of-internet-traffic/ Jeff On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:46 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: http://blogs.mcafee.com/mcafee-labs/u-s-based-internet-traffic-redirected-to-china *David Lum**

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2010-11-19 Thread David Lum
Thanks Jeff for posting this, much appreciated. Dave From: Jeff Bunting [mailto:bunting.j...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 8:25 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Um, WTF? Here's another take on this incident: http://asert.arbornetworks.com/2010/11/china-hijacks-15

Um, WTF?

2010-11-18 Thread David Lum
http://blogs.mcafee.com/mcafee-labs/u-s-based-internet-traffic-redirected-to-china David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~

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2010-11-18 Thread Jeff Brown
Thanks for posting that link. First I've hear of it. SHUZMMM! On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 9:46 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: http://blogs.mcafee.com/mcafee-labs/u-s-based-internet-traffic-redirected-to-china *David Lum** **// *SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION

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2010-11-18 Thread Ziots, Edward
Organization Email:ezi...@lifespan.org Cell:401-639-3505 From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 10:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Um, WTF? http://blogs.mcafee.com/mcafee-labs/u-s-based-internet-traffic-redirecte d-to-china David Lum // SYSTEMS

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2010-11-18 Thread Michael B. Smith
Yep. BGP is not secure. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Um, WTF? Dude that is old news, its been happening

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2010-11-18 Thread David Lum
Ok so I'm behind the curve. BGP? From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 8:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Um, WTF? Yep. BGP is not secure. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From

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2010-11-18 Thread James Rankin
*Subject:* RE: Um, WTF? Yep. BGP is not secure. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:17 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF

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2010-11-18 Thread Michael B. Smith
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_Gateway_Protocol Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Um, WTF? Ok so I'm behind

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2010-11-18 Thread Ziots, Edward
, WTF? Ok so I'm behind the curve. BGP? From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 8:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Um, WTF? Yep. BGP is not secure. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http

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2010-11-18 Thread David Lum
, November 18, 2010 8:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Um, WTF? Border Gateway Protocol Z Edward E. Ziots CISSP, Network +, Security + Network Engineer Lifespan Organization Email:ezi...@lifespan.org Cell:401-639-3505 From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Thursday, November 18

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2010-11-18 Thread Jon Harris
and then something like this pops up and I’m back to “eh, I’m just a n00b…” *From:* Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 8:28 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF? Border Gateway Protocol Z Edward E. Ziots CISSP, Network

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2010-11-18 Thread Michael B. Smith
list). I know zero about it. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:33 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Um, WTF? Ah. I have heard that term I just didn't

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2010-11-18 Thread Ken Schaefer
Any networking course should cover BGP. When I did my networking subjects, we have to cover OSPF, RIP, BGP etc. Cheers Ken From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, 19 November 2010 12:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Um, WTF? If you've never worked

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2010-11-18 Thread Michael B. Smith
://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Um, WTF? Any networking course should cover BGP. When I did my networking subjects, we have to cover OSPF, RIP, BGP etc. Cheers Ken From: Michael B. Smith

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2010-11-18 Thread James Winzenz
The most recent Network+ covers BGP and the other routing protocols, although not in great detail . . . From: Michael B. Smith Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 10:04 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Um, WTF? I’ve never seen BGP covered in networking courses. Other than advanced

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2010-11-18 Thread Don Ely
and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com http://theessentialexchange.com/ *From:* Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:53 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF? Any networking course should cover BGP. When I did my

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2010-11-18 Thread Don Ely
not in great detail . . . *From:* Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 10:04 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF? I’ve never seen BGP covered in networking courses. Other than advanced Cisco

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2010-11-18 Thread David Lum
...). Dave From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 9:04 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Um, WTF? I've never seen BGP covered in networking courses. Other than advanced Cisco courses. OSPF and RIP and IGRP - common interior protocols, yes

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2010-11-18 Thread Bill Humphries
a better grade of schooling than I did. J Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:53 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF

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2010-11-18 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 11:33 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: Why is it the more I learn the more ignorant I feel? The more I learn, the more I realize, the less I know. (Unknown) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~

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2010-11-18 Thread Ziots, Edward
Cell:401-639-3505 From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 1:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Um, WTF? yeah mainline courses like network+ do not get into ISP level routing tech. Bill Michael B. Smith wrote: I've never seen BGP

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2010-11-18 Thread Don Ely
://TheEssentialExchange.com http://theessentialexchange.com/ *From:* Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com k...@adopenstatic.com] *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:53 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF? Any networking course should cover BGP. When I did my

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2010-11-18 Thread Michael B. Smith
But big boys, right? Not your average SMORG. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 1:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Um, WTF? To be fair, BGP is not just

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2010-11-18 Thread Don Ely
] *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 1:41 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Um, WTF? To be fair, BGP is not just for ISP's... I've run BGP in quite a few companies depending on the needs... On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Bill Humphries nt...@hedgedigger.com wrote: yeah

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2010-11-18 Thread Greg Olson
: Um, WTF? Not always. I did some work a few years back for a company with multiple T1's, multiple providers and they were only a 1 site, 100 user company. Their business model dictated that they needed multiple paths... On a 15 site dual MPLS WAN, I run BGP as well. It just depends

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2010-11-18 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
: Thursday, November 18, 2010 12:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Um, WTF? Not always. I did some work a few years back for a company with multiple T1's, multiple providers and they were only a 1 site, 100 user company. Their business model dictated that they needed multiple paths

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2010-11-18 Thread Andy Shook
I see they don't have any commas in Oklahoma. Shook From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 2:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Um, WTF? I have been there done that also, for a company of 100 or so employees. We hosted parts of a major

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2010-11-18 Thread Jonathan Link
Issues *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF? I have been there done that also, for a company of 100 or so employees. We hosted parts of a major vendors website (it’s amazing how often that happens BTW) and had to have very reliable and redundant communications and server systems. Tim *From:* Don Ely

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2010-11-18 Thread Don Ely
System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF? I have been there done that also, for a company of 100 or so employees. We hosted parts of a major vendors website (it’s amazing how often that happens BTW) and had to have very reliable and redundant communications and server systems. Tim *From

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2010-11-18 Thread RS
Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 2:38 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF? I have been there done that also, for a company of 100 or so employees. We hosted parts of a major vendors website (it’s amazing how often that happens BTW

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2010-11-18 Thread Andrew S. Baker
[mailto:don@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 1:41 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Um, WTF? To be fair, BGP is not just for ISP's... I've run BGP in quite a few companies depending on the needs... On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Bill Humphries nt