Re: [Numpy-discussion] A 1.6.2 release?

2012-04-23 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Charles R Harris charlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 5:25 AM, Ralf Gommers ralf.gomm...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Charles R Harris charlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 2:46 AM,

Re: [Numpy-discussion] A 1.6.2 release?

2012-04-23 Thread Charles R Harris
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 12:22 AM, Ralf Gommers ralf.gomm...@googlemail.comwrote: On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Charles R Harris charlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 5:25 AM, Ralf Gommers ralf.gomm...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 5:16 PM,

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Command-line options for (Windows) NumPy Installer?

2012-04-23 Thread Dave Fugate
Thanks Ralf! I'm interested in unattended/silent installations. My best, Dave --- Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 10:48:36 +0200 From: Ralf Gommers ralf.gomm...@googlemail.com Subject: Re: [Numpy-discussion] Command-line options for (Windows)

Re: [Numpy-discussion] A 1.6.2 release?

2012-04-23 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Charles R Harris charlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 12:22 AM, Ralf Gommers ralf.gomm...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Charles R Harris charlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 5:25 AM,

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NEP mask code and the 1.7 release

2012-04-23 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 12:15 AM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com wrote: We need to decide what to do with the NA masking code currently in master, vis-a-vis the 1.7 release. While this code is great at what it is, we don't actually have consensus yet that it's the best way to give our users

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Command-line options for (Windows) NumPy Installer?

2012-04-23 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Dave Fugate dfug...@microsoft.com wrote: Thanks Ralf! I'm interested in unattended/silent installations. I'm afraid that that doesn't work. NSIS installers provide the /S option for silent installs, but it requires some changes to the install script that we

Re: [Numpy-discussion] What is consensus anyway

2012-04-23 Thread Matthew Brett
Hi, On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com wrote: If you hang around big FOSS projects, you'll see the word consensus come up a lot. For example, the glibc steering committee recently dissolved itself in favor of governance directly by the consensus of the people

Re: [Numpy-discussion] documentation bug: Matrix library page not populated

2012-04-23 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 3:12 AM, josef.p...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Pauli Virtanen p...@iki.fi wrote: Hi, 18.04.2012 19:57, Alan G Isaac kirjoitti: http://docs.scipy.org/doc/numpy/reference/routines.matlib.html#module-numpy.matlib promises a list of functions

Re: [Numpy-discussion] documentation bug: Matrix library page not populated

2012-04-23 Thread josef . pktd
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Ralf Gommers ralf.gomm...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 3:12 AM, josef.p...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Pauli Virtanen p...@iki.fi wrote: Hi, 18.04.2012 19:57, Alan G Isaac kirjoitti:

Re: [Numpy-discussion] What is consensus anyway

2012-04-23 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 1:04 AM, Charles R Harris charlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com wrote: If you hang around big FOSS projects, you'll see the word consensus come up a lot. For example, the glibc steering committee recently

Re: [Numpy-discussion] documentation bug: Matrix library page not populated

2012-04-23 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 8:42 PM, josef.p...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Ralf Gommers ralf.gomm...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 3:12 AM, josef.p...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Pauli Virtanen p...@iki.fi wrote: Hi,

Re: [Numpy-discussion] What is consensus anyway

2012-04-23 Thread Matthew Brett
Hi, On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 1:04 AM, Charles R Harris charlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote: Linux is Linus' private tree. Everything that goes in is his decision, everything that stays out is his decision. Of course, he

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NEP mask code and the 1.7 release

2012-04-23 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Ralf Gommers ralf.gomm...@googlemail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 12:15 AM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com wrote: We need to decide what to do with the NA masking code currently in master, vis-a-vis the 1.7 release. While this code is great at what it

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NEP mask code and the 1.7 release

2012-04-23 Thread Chris Barker
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com wrote: Right, this part is specifically about ABI compatibility, not API compatibility -- segfaults would only occur for extension libraries that were compiled against one version of numpy and then used with a different version.

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NEP mask code and the 1.7 release

2012-04-23 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Chris Barker chris.bar...@noaa.gov wrote: On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com wrote: Right, this part is specifically about ABI compatibility, not API compatibility -- segfaults would only occur for extension libraries that were

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NEP mask code and the 1.7 release

2012-04-23 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 9:57 PM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Ralf Gommers ralf.gomm...@googlemail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 12:15 AM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com wrote: We need to decide what to do with the NA masking code

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Masked Arrays in NumPy 1.x

2012-04-23 Thread Nathaniel Smith
Hi Paul, On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 8:57 PM, Paul Hobson pmhob...@gmail.com wrote: Travis et al, This isn't a reply to anything specific in your email and I apologize if there is a better thread or place to share this information. I've been meaning to participate in the discussion for a long

Re: [Numpy-discussion] What is consensus anyway

2012-04-23 Thread Travis Oliphant
Linux: Technically, everything you say is true. In practice, good luck convincing Linus or a subsystem maintainer to accept your patch when other people are raising substantive complaints. Here's an email I googled up in a few moments, in which Linus yells at people for trying to submit a

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Masked Arrays in NumPy 1.x

2012-04-23 Thread Travis Oliphant
Thank you very much for contributing this description.It is very helpful to see how people use numpy.ma in the wild. -Travis On Apr 11, 2012, at 2:57 PM, Paul Hobson wrote: Travis et al, This isn't a reply to anything specific in your email and I apologize if there is a better thread

Re: [Numpy-discussion] What is consensus anyway

2012-04-23 Thread Matthew Brett
Hi, On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Travis Oliphant tra...@continuum.io wrote: Linux: Technically, everything you say is true. In practice, good luck convincing Linus or a subsystem maintainer to accept your patch when other people are raising substantive complaints. Here's an email I

Re: [Numpy-discussion] What is consensus anyway

2012-04-23 Thread Chris Barker
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Travis Oliphant tra...@continuum.io wrote: Right now we are trying to balance difficult things:  stable releases with experimental development. Perhaps a more formal development release system could help here. IIUC, numpy pretty much has two things: the latest

Re: [Numpy-discussion] What is consensus anyway

2012-04-23 Thread Travis Oliphant
That is an excellent thought. We could make the odd numbered releases experimental and the even-numbered as stable. That makes some sense.What do others think? -Travis On Apr 23, 2012, at 5:46 PM, Chris Barker wrote: On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Travis Oliphant

Re: [Numpy-discussion] What is consensus anyway

2012-04-23 Thread Charles R Harris
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Travis Oliphant tra...@continuum.iowrote: That is an excellent thought. We could make the odd numbered releases experimental and the even-numbered as stable. That makes some sense.What do others think? I'm starting to think that a fork might be the

Re: [Numpy-discussion] A 1.6.2 release?

2012-04-23 Thread Charles R Harris
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Ralf Gommers ralf.gomm...@googlemail.comwrote: On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Charles R Harris charlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 12:22 AM, Ralf Gommers ralf.gomm...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 3:44 PM,

Re: [Numpy-discussion] What is consensus anyway

2012-04-23 Thread Stéfan van der Walt
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Charles R Harris charlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote: I'm starting to think that a fork might be the best solution to the present problem. If you are referring to the traditional concept of a fork, and not to the type we frequently make on GitHub, then I'm surprised

Re: [Numpy-discussion] What is consensus anyway

2012-04-23 Thread Fernando Perez
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Travis Oliphant tra...@continuum.io wrote: That is an excellent thought. We could make the odd numbered releases experimental and the even-numbered as stable. That makes some sense.    What do others think? I think the concern with that is manpower: it

Re: [Numpy-discussion] What is consensus anyway

2012-04-23 Thread Fernando Perez
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 8:49 PM, Stéfan van der Walt ste...@sun.ac.za wrote: If you are referring to the traditional concept of a fork, and not to the type we frequently make on GitHub, then I'm surprised that no one has objected already.  What would a fork solve? To paraphrase the regexp