[nysbirds-l] Corporate takeover of Kings County Floyd Bennett Field sections??

2012-02-07 Thread ProsBird
If having Aviator Sports is bad enough, look what the door open to Getting wide now with all that open grassland space looking grand for corporate rental leasing of a park land Never ends... I am sending you the latest ridiculous idea concerning Floyd Bennett Field and its under

[nysbirds-l] Snowy Owl Dust-up: Mea Culpa

2012-02-07 Thread Archer Midland
Dear Ladies and Gentlemen, I seem to have shot the Archduke Ferdinand. As the majority of my life-birding experience has involved walking around the abandoned fields and parks of Houston sans binoculars, guidebook or camera, this whole arena of birders vs. photographers, publicity vs privacy etc

Re: [nysbirds-l] Knee jerk reaction to 2 guys that just didn't get it

2012-02-07 Thread Kyle Bardwell
Hello, I wanted to share my view as an 18 year old freshman in college. I have been birding hard for 4 years now. I have met many people, and since we are talking about birdwatching, I have met many older people. There have been many times where I have said WOW what an amazing day of

[nysbirds-l] RFI - Barnacle Goose

2012-02-07 Thread fresha2411
Does anybody know if the Barnacle Goose is still being seen in Eastport? If it's not, I'd still like to know of any recent sightings of it. Thanks -Doug Gochfeld -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES

[nysbirds-l] F. King Eider, Cackling Goose -YES- Glen Cove

2012-02-07 Thread Arie Gilbert
I went to East Island in Glen Cove today and was able to relocate the F. King Eider ca. half way between the rocks and the navigation buoy to the east. I was then joined by Ann, Alice , Dale and Lenore  and was able to locate a Cackling Goose on Dosoris Pond.

Re: [nysbirds-l] Knee jerk reaction to 2 guys that just didn't get it

2012-02-07 Thread Tom Kerr
Hi Everyone, Just to add my 2 cents on Owls. I was taught owls are not to be posted. I found a Saw-whet Owl once and returned with friends the next day. There were dozens of pellets at the base of the tree. This owl had been there for weeks. I never saw it again. 4 people were enough to

RE: [nysbirds-l] ethics, photographers, knee-jerks, op-eds

2012-02-07 Thread Patrick Santinello
So to recap the final score in the Birding Super Bowl of Whining Indignant casual birder 14 Righteous photographers who cause no harm 9 Elitist birders who withhold sightings 7 Sensitive birders who see all sides 17 Pushy photographers who flush Owls 0 Silent lurkers who enjoy reading

Re: [nysbirds-l] ethics, photographers, knee-jerks, op-eds

2012-02-07 Thread Nadine Scarpa
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Jim Osterlund wrote: "Capitalism is the American way, and I'm all for it. So let's consider a capitalistic approach to the problem. Let's boycott, and advocate boycotting to others, the sale of those photos. Let's point out to the editors of publications we see

[nysbirds-l] Back to birding: Jamaica Bay and Floyd Bennett Field

2012-02-07 Thread Sy Schiff
Jamaica Bay Wildlife Refuge 7 February Joe Giunta and I (Sy Schiff) arrived at the West Pond at 7:05 AM to find Debbie Martin focused on the BARROW'S GOLDENEYE. Soon joined by others for great looks, the Goldeneyes took off at 7:18. There had been at least 50 COMMON GOLDENEYES on the pond with

Re: [nysbirds-l] ethics, photographers, knee-jerks, op-eds

2012-02-07 Thread Jim Osterlund
Response I got from NYSDEC echos that given to another who's posted here. It was basically advise to contact the appropriate ECO, but it included a discouraging addition; "Yes harassing wildlife is a violation of the ECL. Proving it and prosecuting it is another issue." So, we've heard

Re: [nysbirds-l] AMNH RUHU-Retrix* Molt (NYC)

2012-02-07 Thread Peter Scully
Actually, looks like the RUHU dropped R1, R2, and R5 on the left side, leaving R3 and R4.  R2 is gone, contrary to the observation made in my previous post.  -Peter --- On Tue, 2/7/12, Peter Scully wrote: From: Peter Scully Subject: [nysbirds-l] AMNH RUHU-Retrice Molt (NYC) To:

[nysbirds-l] Monk Parakeets continue in Massapequa / Seaford, Nassau County

2012-02-07 Thread David Klauber
I hadn't seen the parakeets for a while, but around 11:30 this morning there were 5 Monk Parakeets at the large stick nest. This is on the west side of Hicksville Road / Route 107, about 1/2 mile south of the Southern State Parkway exit, on the west side of the road just before a Gulf

RE: [nysbirds-l] Of Owls, Birders, Photographers, Harry Potter, and the New York Giants

2012-02-07 Thread ROBERT ADAMO
Can I get an "Amen"? Cheers,Bob Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 08:57:02 -0500 Subject: [nysbirds-l] Of Owls, Birders, Photographers, Harry Potter, and the New York Giants From: fredbee.ea...@gmail.com To: NYSBirds-L@cornell.edu All: I have been birding for exactly 1,396 years, give or take a few. I

[nysbirds-l] Lark Sparrow at Ditch Plains

2012-02-07 Thread Anthony Collerton
Still present at 8:53am Sent from my iPhone -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1)

[nysbirds-l] Of Owls, Birders, Photographers, Harry Potter, and the New York Giants

2012-02-07 Thread Fred Baumgarten
All: I have been birding for exactly 1,396 years, give or take a few. I have chased birds on nine continents, including Atlantis. I have shaken hands (webbed feet) with Dodos (birds, that is), dined on turtle soup with Audubon, and been burned at the stake for practicing wishcraft to make birds

Re:[nysbirds-l] Knee jerk reaction to 2 guys that just didn't get it

2012-02-07 Thread Charles Scheffold
I like to watch birds. I also like to photograph them. I shoot with an 800mm lens and quite often a 1.4x or 2x teleconverter. Would I like to be closer? Yes of course. But my mommy taught me manners and I know how to behave myself. I saw a Snowy Owl this year for the first time in my life, and

RE: [nysbirds-l] Bad behavior

2012-02-07 Thread Mark Barriger
Nobody is saying to go out and harass every bird EXCEPT owls. Yes, you can flush a Yellow-rump, a Junco, sparrows, and just about every bird in our guides. But saying that flushing these birds and birders/photographers chasing a Snowy Owl up and down a beach is the same is wrong. Reading a

[nysbirds-l] AMNH RUHU-Retrice Molt (NYC)

2012-02-07 Thread Peter Scully
The Rufous Hummingbird at the AMNH has dropped the majority of its retrices, including both R1s.  The perched bird offers excellent views of the R2s, whether the tail is spread or not.  An interesting look:  www.flickr.com/photos/scullybirds/ -- NYSbirds-L List Info:

[nysbirds-l] AMNH RUHU-Retrice Molt (NYC)

2012-02-07 Thread Peter Scully
The Rufous Hummingbird at the AMNH has dropped the majority of its retrices, including both R1s.  The perched bird offers excellent views of the R2s, whether the tail is spread or not.  An interesting look:  www.flickr.com/photos/scullybirds/ -- NYSbirds-L List Info:

RE: [nysbirds-l] Bad behavior

2012-02-07 Thread Mark Barriger
Nobody is saying to go out and harass every bird EXCEPT owls. Yes, you can flush a Yellow-rump, a Junco, sparrows, and just about every bird in our guides. But saying that flushing these birds and birders/photographers chasing a Snowy Owl up and down a beach is the same is wrong. Reading a

[nysbirds-l] Of Owls, Birders, Photographers, Harry Potter, and the New York Giants

2012-02-07 Thread Fred Baumgarten
All: I have been birding for exactly 1,396 years, give or take a few. I have chased birds on nine continents, including Atlantis. I have shaken hands (webbed feet) with Dodos (birds, that is), dined on turtle soup with Audubon, and been burned at the stake for practicing wishcraft to make birds

[nysbirds-l] Lark Sparrow at Ditch Plains

2012-02-07 Thread Anthony Collerton
Still present at 8:53am Sent from my iPhone -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1)

RE: [nysbirds-l] Of Owls, Birders, Photographers, Harry Potter, and the New York Giants

2012-02-07 Thread ROBERT ADAMO
Can I get an Amen? Cheers,Bob Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 08:57:02 -0500 Subject: [nysbirds-l] Of Owls, Birders, Photographers, Harry Potter, and the New York Giants From: fredbee.ea...@gmail.com To: NYSBirds-L@cornell.edu All: I have been birding for exactly 1,396 years, give or take a few. I

[nysbirds-l] Monk Parakeets continue in Massapequa / Seaford, Nassau County

2012-02-07 Thread David Klauber
I hadn't seen the parakeets for a while, but around 11:30 this morning there were 5 Monk Parakeets at the large stick nest. This is on the west side of Hicksville Road / Route 107, about 1/2 mile south of the Southern State Parkway exit, on the west side of the road just before a Gulf

Re: [nysbirds-l] AMNH RUHU-Retrix* Molt (NYC)

2012-02-07 Thread Peter Scully
Actually, looks like the RUHU dropped R1, R2, and R5 on the left side, leaving R3 and R4.  R2 is gone, contrary to the observation made in my previous post.  -Peter --- On Tue, 2/7/12, Peter Scully peterandrewscull...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Peter Scully peterandrewscull...@yahoo.com Subject:

Re: [nysbirds-l] ethics, photographers, knee-jerks, op-eds

2012-02-07 Thread Jim Osterlund
Response I got from NYSDEC echos that given to another who's posted here. It was basically advise to contact the appropriate ECO, but it included a discouraging addition; Yes harassing wildlife is a violation of the ECL. Proving it and prosecuting it is another issue. So, we've heard

[nysbirds-l] Back to birding: Jamaica Bay and Floyd Bennett Field

2012-02-07 Thread Sy Schiff
Jamaica Bay Wildlife Refuge 7 February Joe Giunta and I (Sy Schiff) arrived at the West Pond at 7:05 AM to find Debbie Martin focused on the BARROW'S GOLDENEYE. Soon joined by others for great looks, the Goldeneyes took off at 7:18. There had been at least 50 COMMON GOLDENEYES on the pond with

RE: [nysbirds-l] ethics, photographers, knee-jerks, op-eds

2012-02-07 Thread Patrick Santinello
So to recap the final score in the Birding Super Bowl of Whining Indignant casual birder 14 Righteous photographers who cause no harm 9 Elitist birders who withhold sightings 7 Sensitive birders who see all sides 17 Pushy photographers who flush Owls 0 Silent lurkers who enjoy reading

Re: [nysbirds-l] Knee jerk reaction to 2 guys that just didn't get it

2012-02-07 Thread Tom Kerr
Hi Everyone, Just to add my 2 cents on Owls. I was taught owls are not to be posted. I found a Saw-whet Owl once and returned with friends the next day. There were dozens of pellets at the base of the tree. This owl had been there for weeks. I never saw it again. 4 people were enough to

[nysbirds-l] F. King Eider, Cackling Goose -YES- Glen Cove

2012-02-07 Thread Arie Gilbert
I went to East Island in Glen Cove today and was able to relocate the F. King Eider ca. half way between the rocks and the navigation buoy to the east. I was then joined by Ann, Alice , Dale and Lenore and was able to locate a Cackling Goose on Dosoris Pond.

[nysbirds-l] RFI - Barnacle Goose

2012-02-07 Thread fresha2411
Does anybody know if the Barnacle Goose is still being seen in Eastport? If it's not, I'd still like to know of any recent sightings of it. Thanks -Doug Gochfeld -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES

Re: [nysbirds-l] Knee jerk reaction to 2 guys that just didn't get it

2012-02-07 Thread Kyle Bardwell
Hello, I wanted to share my view as an 18 year old freshman in college. I have been birding hard for 4 years now. I have met many people, and since we are talking about birdwatching, I have met many older people. There have been many times where I have said WOW what an amazing day of

[nysbirds-l] Snowy Owl Dust-up: Mea Culpa

2012-02-07 Thread Archer Midland
Dear Ladies and Gentlemen, I seem to have shot the Archduke Ferdinand. As the majority of my life-birding experience has involved walking around the abandoned fields and parks of Houston sans binoculars, guidebook or camera, this whole arena of birders vs. photographers, publicity vs privacy etc

Re:[nysbirds-l] Knee jerk reaction to 2 guys that just didn't get it

2012-02-07 Thread Charles Scheffold
I like to watch birds. I also like to photograph them. I shoot with an 800mm lens and quite often a 1.4x or 2x teleconverter. Would I like to be closer? Yes of course. But my mommy taught me manners and I know how to behave myself. I saw a Snowy Owl this year for the first time in my life, and

[nysbirds-l] Corporate takeover of Kings County Floyd Bennett Field sections??

2012-02-07 Thread ProsBird
If having Aviator Sports is bad enough, look what the door open to Getting wide now with all that open grassland space looking grand for corporate rental leasing of a park land Never ends... I am sending you the latest ridiculous idea concerning Floyd Bennett Field and its under