* New York* Syracuse
- December 04, 2017
* NYSY 12.04.17 Hotline: Syracuse Rare bird AlertDates(s):November 27, 2017 -
December 04, 2017to report by e-mail: brinjoseph AT yahoo.comcovering upstate
NY counties: Cayuga, Montezuma National Wildlife Refugeand Montezuma Wetlands
Complex
Although yes, I do know this issue was posted locally on the NF, yet it still
has many repercussions to birders throughout NYS therefore I am posting.
If you wish to eradicate Mute Swan I am sorry.
rk
North Fork LI NY: I went looking for the reported Snowy at the Mattituck Inlet
Breakwater
I don’t think Chris T-H needs to weigh in on this as it is a polite
conversation of an issue that we all know about.
Many of us have opinions that will not be changed. That is everyones right.
I have simply this one thing to say:
I know many out there wish to eliminate the Swans for what they
Fred and any others interested,
Two mute swans by you is no problem. Up to 65 can be seen on any given day on
Argyle Lake in Babylon. It is a pond that is less than 1/4 mile in
circumference. All other breeding waterfowl here have been eradicated by these
swans. Some migrant waterfowl use
Well said Tim, but I think I hear the footsteps of
Chris T-H on the way, so I’m going to mention a bird in this post and “duck”
out of the way of the ban hammer!
Mike Cooper
Ridge LI NY
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> On Dec 4, 2017, at 6:03 PM, Tim Dunn wrote:
>
> Fred and any
Quick agreement with Shai -- by "non-migratory" I didn't mean "feral", just
populations that in the past may have been migratory but have now become
sedentary / local, in some or all seasons.
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I’m totally with Tim on this.
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On Dec 4, 2017, at 8:05 PM, Frederick Kedenburg
> wrote:
I don’t think Chris T-H needs to weigh in on this as it is a polite
conversation of an issue that we all know about.
Many of us
First, kudos to Chris T-H for keeping order in our rangy group. A laudable
task, not simple.
Second, the fact that one invasive (Mute Swans) may be more of less destructive
than another (non-migratory “barnyard” Canada Geese) is a sensible question for
discussion (maybe or maybe not on a
I agree Fred, as to the context of the conversation. It’s not an easy issue for
birders and reasonable minds can differ on these issues.
I also have no problem with dealing with the “immigrant” swan population as
humanely as possible. To me, the most palatable solution would probably be to
As everyone so far has contributed in good faith, and given that this listserv
is devoted to NYS birds of all kinds, not just rare, why not discuss?
My perception is that waterfowl are thriving above and beyond all other
ecological guilds. The explosion in Canada Goose numbers is not
I don’t know if this is part of the crazy outbreak we’re seeing here in the
northeast, but yesterday a Hepatic Tanager was photo’d at a feeder in the Upper
Peninsula of Michigan!
Mike Cooper
Ridge, LI, NY
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> On Dec 3, 2017, at 9:51 AM, Anders Peltomaa
I just found it. Near Swampy Pin Oak, towards the Oven.
Anders Peltomaa
Manhattan
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Central Park, NYC - Ramble & points south
Sunday, December. 3, 2017
OBS: Robert DeCandido, Deborah Allen, m.ob.
Highlights: Boat-tailed Grackle, Nashville Warbler (3), Wilson's Warbler,
Northern Parula, & Hammond's Flycatcher. Water is high at the mudflat between
the Pond and Wollman Rink, but
I don’t know if this is part of the crazy outbreak we’re seeing here in the
northeast, but yesterday a Hepatic Tanager was photo’d at a feeder in the Upper
Peninsula of Michigan!
Mike Cooper
Ridge, LI, NY
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 3, 2017, at 9:51 AM, Anders Peltomaa wrote:
>
>
I just found it. Near Swampy Pin Oak, towards the Oven.
Anders Peltomaa
Manhattan
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ARCHIVES:
1)
Central Park, NYC - Ramble & points south
Sunday, December. 3, 2017
OBS: Robert DeCandido, Deborah Allen, m.ob.
Highlights: Boat-tailed Grackle, Nashville Warbler (3), Wilson's Warbler,
Northern Parula, & Hammond's Flycatcher. Water is high at the mudflat between
the Pond and Wollman Rink, but
I'm so new to small-park birding in NYC that I don't know what's special, but a
quick noontime walk among the Bryant Park hordes revealed an Orange-Crowned
Warbler (northeast plantings), Common Yellowthroat, Hermit Thrush, and a tame,
feeding Woodcock. First spotted from Sixth Avenue probing
* New York* Syracuse
- December 04, 2017
* NYSY 12.04.17 Hotline: Syracuse Rare bird AlertDates(s):November 27, 2017 -
December 04, 2017to report by e-mail: brinjoseph AT yahoo.comcovering upstate
NY counties: Cayuga, Montezuma National Wildlife Refugeand Montezuma Wetlands
Complex
Although yes, I do know this issue was posted locally on the NF, yet it still
has many repercussions to birders throughout NYS therefore I am posting.
If you wish to eradicate Mute Swan I am sorry.
rk
North Fork LI NY: I went looking for the reported Snowy at the Mattituck Inlet
Breakwater
Fred and any others interested,
Two mute swans by you is no problem. Up to 65 can be seen on any given day on
Argyle Lake in Babylon. It is a pond that is less than 1/4 mile in
circumference. All other breeding waterfowl here have been eradicated by these
swans. Some migrant waterfowl use
Well said Tim, but I think I hear the footsteps of
Chris T-H on the way, so I’m going to mention a bird in this post and “duck”
out of the way of the ban hammer!
Mike Cooper
Ridge LI NY
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 4, 2017, at 6:03 PM, Tim Dunn wrote:
>
> Fred and any others interested,
>
I don’t think Chris T-H needs to weigh in on this as it is a polite
conversation of an issue that we all know about.
Many of us have opinions that will not be changed. That is everyones right.
I have simply this one thing to say:
I know many out there wish to eliminate the Swans for what they
I agree Fred, as to the context of the conversation. It’s not an easy issue for
birders and reasonable minds can differ on these issues.
I also have no problem with dealing with the “immigrant” swan population as
humanely as possible. To me, the most palatable solution would probably be to
I’m totally with Tim on this.
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 4, 2017, at 8:05 PM, Frederick Kedenburg
mailto:kedenb...@optonline.net>> wrote:
I don’t think Chris T-H needs to weigh in on this as it is a polite
conversation of an issue that we all know about.
Many of us have opinions that will not
First, kudos to Chris T-H for keeping order in our rangy group. A laudable
task, not simple.
Second, the fact that one invasive (Mute Swans) may be more of less destructive
than another (non-migratory “barnyard” Canada Geese) is a sensible question for
discussion (maybe or maybe not on a
As everyone so far has contributed in good faith, and given that this listserv
is devoted to NYS birds of all kinds, not just rare, why not discuss?
My perception is that waterfowl are thriving above and beyond all other
ecological guilds. The explosion in Canada Goose numbers is not
Quick agreement with Shai -- by "non-migratory" I didn't mean "feral", just
populations that in the past may have been migratory but have now become
sedentary / local, in some or all seasons.
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