[nysbirds-l] Lesser Black-backed Gull in NY Times Article on Asbury Park?

2015-08-01 Thread Shaibal Mitra
I believe the gull featured in the summer beach scene at Asbury Park, NJ, in 
today's New York Times is a Lesser Black-backed Gull (page 16).

Times have changed if this species has become the iconic seagull of the Jersey 
Shore!

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[nysbirds-l] Caspian Tern @ East Pond Jamaica Bay Queens County...

2015-08-01 Thread birdingdude
I have not seen this posted as yet and I double checked my junk folder since 
many reports seem to keep ending up in that folder.

I just picked up a voice message from Ann Lazarus, who indicated that she and 
her crew (love saying that) had a Caspian Tern at the raunt this morning around 
the same time I was trying to call her to give her a report from the north end 
after spotting them.  The bird was observed from the Big John's Overlook.

That is a very good bird for the East Pond and good to know that we have one 
around. In the past few seasons, I have had one hang around for a few days so 
keep an eye out if you are visiting.

Cheers,


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Re: [nysbirds-l] Possible Re-sighting of Little Egret and Laughing Gull RFI

2015-08-01 Thread Peter Reisfeld
While the compilation of data from observation may be useful in studying the 
behavior of birders, the very behavior being studied may be a consequence of 
the ways in which data is used.  The shift toward chasing rarities may not 
relate to changes in human motivation or culture.  Rather, I suspect it is a 
direct result of better access to data, namely the rapid reporting and 
retrieval of birding information due to the proliferation of smart phones and 
use of list serves.  

On a personal note, I have always been appreciative of the welcoming nature of 
the birding community and its generosity in sharing information and advice.  In 
fact, both Shai and Andrew have been amongst the most giving in this regard, 
for which the community is certainly grateful. Nevertheless, while I can 
understand how frustration can evoke negative feelings, a public broadcasting 
of disappointment with the behavior of a generous community is more apt to 
elicit resentment than a positive result.  Public encouragement works better 
than criticism, for family members, fellow birders, and possibly even for 
photographers.  (Though perhaps not for cat lovers.) 

Happy summer birding, 

Peter 


 On Saturday, August 1, 2015 7:52 AM, Shaibal Mitra 
 wrote:
   

 Thanks to everyone who shared information about the appearance of juv Laughing 
Gulls along the LI shore this summer. It sounds as though they appeared 
relatively late but, as is sometimes the case, simultaneously in widely 
scattered places. Confirmation of a new breeding site on the island will 
probably have to wait until another year (I believe all the "confirmed" blocks 
east of Jamaica Bay in the Atlas represent flying juvs).

It's interesting to me that almost all the info about Laughing Gulls, which is 
what I asked for in my post, was offered privately, whereas it was my rather 
secondary--and mild--expression of disappointment about community effort 
patterns that garnered public discussion.  In giving serious thought to the 
various points that were raised, including my own, the only general theme I can 
discern that is worth pursuing is the question of whether or not birding itself 
can be studied, in a manner similar to how we study egrets and Laughing Gulls. 
I believe that it can, and I've scrupulously recorded data regarding the 
birders I've encountered in the field over the past 35 years in an effort to 
document their patterns of abundance, distribution, and behavior--and to look 
for changes or trends in these things.

And what's wrong with that? It's very likely that Andrew could marshall data to 
support his hypothesis about a shift toward alerts-oriented effort; Dave could 
well be drawing on a deep body of background knowledge when he criticizes my 
inability to identify egrets and report them in a satisfactory manner; and Arie 
might be right that his birding and reporting practices, including his chase 
and followup of the Little Egret, have been meritorious. My statement that the 
overall egret-chasing effort collapsed prematurely back on 22 May is not a 
personal attack on any particular person; it is a conclusion based on a large 
body of observations.

It's the information age--the data are out there!

Shai Mitra
Bay Shore


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[nysbirds-l] Stilt Sandpipers @ Timber Pt. East Marina, Suffolk Co.

2015-08-01 Thread mscheibel49
Two Stilt Sandpipers now at previously reported Timber Pt GC, East Marina. 
Feeding separately & with Dowitchers in tidal pool just east of dock & pool 
just north  (access short path off parking lot through phrags.)
Mike Scheibel
Brookhaven 

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Revised: Jones Beach West End: tagged Semi-palmated Sandpiper

2015-08-01 Thread Andrew Baksh
Suriname aka Dutch Guiana, is another country that uses "yellow" flags. Looking 
forward to hearing about the history.

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> On Aug 1, 2015, at 8:15 AM, Robert Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, I uploaded the photo - best could make out was a letter and "24".  
> I'll submit it later today.  Last year around this time (same week) at the 
> same location I had another banded Semi-Palmated Sandpiper with a blue banded 
> letters UCH - turned out was tagged in Brazil and the person who actually 
> banded the bird got in contact with me. (photo attached)  Good birding, Rob 
> in Massapequa
> 
>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 8:58 PM, Andrew Baksh  wrote:
>> Thanks for the report Robert. Yellow flag might be Peru if I remember the 
>> color scheme to which country correctly.
>> 
>> That certainly, is an interesting one since I seem to see most flagged SESAs 
>> with green or blue flags.
>> 
>> Even if you cannot read the code, I recommend submitting the data as it is 
>> useful for those researchers who are interested to know where their banded 
>> birds travel to once leaving their wintering grounds
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> 風 Swift as the wind
>> 林 Quiet as the forest
>> 火 Conquer like the fire
>> 山 Steady as the mountain
>> Sun Tzu  The Art of War
>> 
>>> (\__/)
>>> (= '.'=)
>>> (") _ (") 
>>> Sent from somewhere in the field using my mobile device! 
>> 
>> Andrew Baksh
>> www.birdingdude.blogspot.com
>> 
>>> On Jul 31, 2015, at 7:23 AM, Robert Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Also Short Billed Dowitchers
>>> 
 On Friday, July 31, 2015, Robert Taylor  wrote:
 Hi Everyone,
 
 I was by the coast guard station from around sunrise to 7am- lots of 
 shorebirds including Oystercatchers, groups of Willetts, semi palmated 
 sandpipers and plovers, and sanderlings.  One of the semi-palmated 
 sandpiper had a yellow tag on its leg- took a photo but lighting was bad 
 and couldnt make out the letters/ numbers - will upload and enhance the 
 photo later so I can try to report it.
 
 I briefly checked the vernal ponds for the Red Phalarope- only checked the 
 western pond cause I had to get to work- just curious if anyone has seen 
 it after my sighting I posted on ebird? (reported 8:00pm June 24th)
 
 On a sidenote, weather was pleasant and didnt have any mosquitos or gnats 
 at all.
 
 Good birding,
 Rob in Massapequa
 www.longislandbirding.blogspot.com
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Revised: Jones Beach West End: tagged Semi-palmated Sandpiper

2015-08-01 Thread Robert Taylor
Thanks, I uploaded the photo - best could make out was a letter and "24".
I'll submit it later today.  Another birder thought it may be from
Suriname.  Last year around this time (same week) at the same location I
had another banded Semi-Palmated Sandpiper with a blue banded letters UCH -
turned out was tagged in Brazil and the person who actually banded the bird
got in contact with me. (yesterday's photo on my blog
www.longislandbirding.blogspot.com)

Good birding,
Rob in Massapequa

On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 8:58 PM, Andrew Baksh  wrote:

> Thanks for the report Robert. Yellow flag might be Peru if I remember the
> color scheme to which country correctly.
>
> That certainly, is an interesting one since I seem to see most flagged
> SESAs with green or blue flags.
>
> Even if you cannot read the code, I recommend submitting the data as it is
> useful for those researchers who are interested to know where their banded
> birds travel to once leaving their wintering grounds
>
> Cheers,
>
> 風 Swift as the wind
> 林 Quiet as the forest
> 火 Conquer like the fire
> 山 Steady as the mountain
> Sun Tzu   *The Art of War*
> 
>
> (\__/)
> (= '.'=)
>
> (") _ (")
>
> Sent from somewhere in the field using my mobile device!
>
>
> Andrew Baksh
> www.birdingdude.blogspot.com
>
> On Jul 31, 2015, at 7:23 AM, Robert Taylor  wrote:
>
> Also Short Billed Dowitchers
>
> On Friday, July 31, 2015, Robert Taylor  wrote:
>
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> I was by the coast guard station from around sunrise to 7am- lots of
>> shorebirds including Oystercatchers, groups of Willetts, semi palmated
>> sandpipers and plovers, and sanderlings.  One of the semi-palmated
>> sandpiper had a yellow tag on its leg- took a photo but lighting was bad
>> and couldnt make out the letters/ numbers - will upload and enhance the
>> photo later so I can try to report it.
>>
>> I briefly checked the vernal ponds for the Red Phalarope- only checked
>> the western pond cause I had to get to work- just curious if anyone has
>> seen it after my sighting I posted on ebird? (reported 8:00pm June 24th)
>>
>> On a sidenote, weather was pleasant and didnt have any mosquitos or gnats
>> at all.
>>
>> Good birding,
>> Rob in Massapequa
>> www.longislandbirding.blogspot.com
>>
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RE:[nysbirds-l] Possible Re-sighting of Little Egret and Laughing Gull RFI

2015-08-01 Thread Shaibal Mitra
Thanks to everyone who shared information about the appearance of juv Laughing 
Gulls along the LI shore this summer. It sounds as though they appeared 
relatively late but, as is sometimes the case, simultaneously in widely 
scattered places. Confirmation of a new breeding site on the island will 
probably have to wait until another year (I believe all the "confirmed" blocks 
east of Jamaica Bay in the Atlas represent flying juvs).

It's interesting to me that almost all the info about Laughing Gulls, which is 
what I asked for in my post, was offered privately, whereas it was my rather 
secondary--and mild--expression of disappointment about community effort 
patterns that garnered public discussion.  In giving serious thought to the 
various points that were raised, including my own, the only general theme I can 
discern that is worth pursuing is the question of whether or not birding itself 
can be studied, in a manner similar to how we study egrets and Laughing Gulls. 
I believe that it can, and I've scrupulously recorded data regarding the 
birders I've encountered in the field over the past 35 years in an effort to 
document their patterns of abundance, distribution, and behavior--and to look 
for changes or trends in these things.

And what's wrong with that? It's very likely that Andrew could marshall data to 
support his hypothesis about a shift toward alerts-oriented effort; Dave could 
well be drawing on a deep body of background knowledge when he criticizes my 
inability to identify egrets and report them in a satisfactory manner; and Arie 
might be right that his birding and reporting practices, including his chase 
and followup of the Little Egret, have been meritorious. My statement that the 
overall egret-chasing effort collapsed prematurely back on 22 May is not a 
personal attack on any particular person; it is a conclusion based on a large 
body of observations.

It's the information age--the data are out there!

Shai Mitra
Bay Shore


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RE:[nysbirds-l] Possible Re-sighting of Little Egret and Laughing Gull RFI

2015-08-01 Thread Shaibal Mitra
Thanks to everyone who shared information about the appearance of juv Laughing 
Gulls along the LI shore this summer. It sounds as though they appeared 
relatively late but, as is sometimes the case, simultaneously in widely 
scattered places. Confirmation of a new breeding site on the island will 
probably have to wait until another year (I believe all the confirmed blocks 
east of Jamaica Bay in the Atlas represent flying juvs).

It's interesting to me that almost all the info about Laughing Gulls, which is 
what I asked for in my post, was offered privately, whereas it was my rather 
secondary--and mild--expression of disappointment about community effort 
patterns that garnered public discussion.  In giving serious thought to the 
various points that were raised, including my own, the only general theme I can 
discern that is worth pursuing is the question of whether or not birding itself 
can be studied, in a manner similar to how we study egrets and Laughing Gulls. 
I believe that it can, and I've scrupulously recorded data regarding the 
birders I've encountered in the field over the past 35 years in an effort to 
document their patterns of abundance, distribution, and behavior--and to look 
for changes or trends in these things.

And what's wrong with that? It's very likely that Andrew could marshall data to 
support his hypothesis about a shift toward alerts-oriented effort; Dave could 
well be drawing on a deep body of background knowledge when he criticizes my 
inability to identify egrets and report them in a satisfactory manner; and Arie 
might be right that his birding and reporting practices, including his chase 
and followup of the Little Egret, have been meritorious. My statement that the 
overall egret-chasing effort collapsed prematurely back on 22 May is not a 
personal attack on any particular person; it is a conclusion based on a large 
body of observations.

It's the information age--the data are out there!

Shai Mitra
Bay Shore


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Re: [nysbirds-l] Revised: Jones Beach West End: tagged Semi-palmated Sandpiper

2015-08-01 Thread Andrew Baksh
Suriname aka Dutch Guiana, is another country that uses yellow flags. Looking 
forward to hearing about the history.

風 Swift as the wind
林 Quiet as the forest
火 Conquer like the fire
山 Steady as the mountain
Sun Tzu  The Art of War

 (\__/)
 (= '.'=)
 () _ () 
 Sent from somewhere in the field using my mobile device! 

Andrew Baksh
www.birdingdude.blogspot.com

 On Aug 1, 2015, at 8:15 AM, Robert Taylor rmtaylo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thanks, I uploaded the photo - best could make out was a letter and 24.  
 I'll submit it later today.  Last year around this time (same week) at the 
 same location I had another banded Semi-Palmated Sandpiper with a blue banded 
 letters UCH - turned out was tagged in Brazil and the person who actually 
 banded the bird got in contact with me. (photo attached)  Good birding, Rob 
 in Massapequa
 
 On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 8:58 PM, Andrew Baksh birdingd...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for the report Robert. Yellow flag might be Peru if I remember the 
 color scheme to which country correctly.
 
 That certainly, is an interesting one since I seem to see most flagged SESAs 
 with green or blue flags.
 
 Even if you cannot read the code, I recommend submitting the data as it is 
 useful for those researchers who are interested to know where their banded 
 birds travel to once leaving their wintering grounds
 
 Cheers,
 
 風 Swift as the wind
 林 Quiet as the forest
 火 Conquer like the fire
 山 Steady as the mountain
 Sun Tzu  The Art of War
 
 (\__/)
 (= '.'=)
 () _ () 
 Sent from somewhere in the field using my mobile device! 
 
 Andrew Baksh
 www.birdingdude.blogspot.com
 
 On Jul 31, 2015, at 7:23 AM, Robert Taylor rmtaylo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Also Short Billed Dowitchers
 
 On Friday, July 31, 2015, Robert Taylor rmtaylo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Everyone,
 
 I was by the coast guard station from around sunrise to 7am- lots of 
 shorebirds including Oystercatchers, groups of Willetts, semi palmated 
 sandpipers and plovers, and sanderlings.  One of the semi-palmated 
 sandpiper had a yellow tag on its leg- took a photo but lighting was bad 
 and couldnt make out the letters/ numbers - will upload and enhance the 
 photo later so I can try to report it.
 
 I briefly checked the vernal ponds for the Red Phalarope- only checked the 
 western pond cause I had to get to work- just curious if anyone has seen 
 it after my sighting I posted on ebird? (reported 8:00pm June 24th)
 
 On a sidenote, weather was pleasant and didnt have any mosquitos or gnats 
 at all.
 
 Good birding,
 Rob in Massapequa
 www.longislandbirding.blogspot.com
 
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[nysbirds-l] Stilt Sandpipers @ Timber Pt. East Marina, Suffolk Co.

2015-08-01 Thread mscheibel49
Two Stilt Sandpipers now at previously reported Timber Pt GC, East Marina. 
Feeding separately  with Dowitchers in tidal pool just east of dock  pool 
just north  (access short path off parking lot through phrags.)
Mike Scheibel
Brookhaven 

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Revised: Jones Beach West End: tagged Semi-palmated Sandpiper

2015-08-01 Thread Robert Taylor
Thanks, I uploaded the photo - best could make out was a letter and 24.
I'll submit it later today.  Another birder thought it may be from
Suriname.  Last year around this time (same week) at the same location I
had another banded Semi-Palmated Sandpiper with a blue banded letters UCH -
turned out was tagged in Brazil and the person who actually banded the bird
got in contact with me. (yesterday's photo on my blog
www.longislandbirding.blogspot.com)

Good birding,
Rob in Massapequa

On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 8:58 PM, Andrew Baksh birdingd...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for the report Robert. Yellow flag might be Peru if I remember the
 color scheme to which country correctly.

 That certainly, is an interesting one since I seem to see most flagged
 SESAs with green or blue flags.

 Even if you cannot read the code, I recommend submitting the data as it is
 useful for those researchers who are interested to know where their banded
 birds travel to once leaving their wintering grounds

 Cheers,

 風 Swift as the wind
 林 Quiet as the forest
 火 Conquer like the fire
 山 Steady as the mountain
 Sun Tzu http://refspace.com/quotes/Sun_Tzu  *The Art of War*
 http://refspace.com/quotes/The_Art_of_War

 (\__/)
 (= '.'=)

 () _ ()

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 On Jul 31, 2015, at 7:23 AM, Robert Taylor rmtaylo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Also Short Billed Dowitchers

 On Friday, July 31, 2015, Robert Taylor rmtaylo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Everyone,

 I was by the coast guard station from around sunrise to 7am- lots of
 shorebirds including Oystercatchers, groups of Willetts, semi palmated
 sandpipers and plovers, and sanderlings.  One of the semi-palmated
 sandpiper had a yellow tag on its leg- took a photo but lighting was bad
 and couldnt make out the letters/ numbers - will upload and enhance the
 photo later so I can try to report it.

 I briefly checked the vernal ponds for the Red Phalarope- only checked
 the western pond cause I had to get to work- just curious if anyone has
 seen it after my sighting I posted on ebird? (reported 8:00pm June 24th)

 On a sidenote, weather was pleasant and didnt have any mosquitos or gnats
 at all.

 Good birding,
 Rob in Massapequa
 www.longislandbirding.blogspot.com

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Possible Re-sighting of Little Egret and Laughing Gull RFI

2015-08-01 Thread Peter Reisfeld
While the compilation of data from observation may be useful in studying the 
behavior of birders, the very behavior being studied may be a consequence of 
the ways in which data is used.  The shift toward chasing rarities may not 
relate to changes in human motivation or culture.  Rather, I suspect it is a 
direct result of better access to data, namely the rapid reporting and 
retrieval of birding information due to the proliferation of smart phones and 
use of list serves.  

On a personal note, I have always been appreciative of the welcoming nature of 
the birding community and its generosity in sharing information and advice.  In 
fact, both Shai and Andrew have been amongst the most giving in this regard, 
for which the community is certainly grateful. Nevertheless, while I can 
understand how frustration can evoke negative feelings, a public broadcasting 
of disappointment with the behavior of a generous community is more apt to 
elicit resentment than a positive result.  Public encouragement works better 
than criticism, for family members, fellow birders, and possibly even for 
photographers.  (Though perhaps not for cat lovers.) 

Happy summer birding, 

Peter 


 On Saturday, August 1, 2015 7:52 AM, Shaibal Mitra 
shaibal.mi...@csi.cuny.edu wrote:
   

 Thanks to everyone who shared information about the appearance of juv Laughing 
Gulls along the LI shore this summer. It sounds as though they appeared 
relatively late but, as is sometimes the case, simultaneously in widely 
scattered places. Confirmation of a new breeding site on the island will 
probably have to wait until another year (I believe all the confirmed blocks 
east of Jamaica Bay in the Atlas represent flying juvs).

It's interesting to me that almost all the info about Laughing Gulls, which is 
what I asked for in my post, was offered privately, whereas it was my rather 
secondary--and mild--expression of disappointment about community effort 
patterns that garnered public discussion.  In giving serious thought to the 
various points that were raised, including my own, the only general theme I can 
discern that is worth pursuing is the question of whether or not birding itself 
can be studied, in a manner similar to how we study egrets and Laughing Gulls. 
I believe that it can, and I've scrupulously recorded data regarding the 
birders I've encountered in the field over the past 35 years in an effort to 
document their patterns of abundance, distribution, and behavior--and to look 
for changes or trends in these things.

And what's wrong with that? It's very likely that Andrew could marshall data to 
support his hypothesis about a shift toward alerts-oriented effort; Dave could 
well be drawing on a deep body of background knowledge when he criticizes my 
inability to identify egrets and report them in a satisfactory manner; and Arie 
might be right that his birding and reporting practices, including his chase 
and followup of the Little Egret, have been meritorious. My statement that the 
overall egret-chasing effort collapsed prematurely back on 22 May is not a 
personal attack on any particular person; it is a conclusion based on a large 
body of observations.

It's the information age--the data are out there!

Shai Mitra
Bay Shore


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[nysbirds-l] Caspian Tern @ East Pond Jamaica Bay Queens County...

2015-08-01 Thread birdingdude
I have not seen this posted as yet and I double checked my junk folder since 
many reports seem to keep ending up in that folder.

I just picked up a voice message from Ann Lazarus, who indicated that she and 
her crew (love saying that) had a Caspian Tern at the raunt this morning around 
the same time I was trying to call her to give her a report from the north end 
after spotting them.  The bird was observed from the Big John's Overlook.

That is a very good bird for the East Pond and good to know that we have one 
around. In the past few seasons, I have had one hang around for a few days so 
keep an eye out if you are visiting.

Cheers,


風 Swift as the wind
林 Quiet as the forest
火 Conquer like the fire
山 Steady as the mountain
Sun Tzu  The Art of War

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[nysbirds-l] Lesser Black-backed Gull in NY Times Article on Asbury Park?

2015-08-01 Thread Shaibal Mitra
I believe the gull featured in the summer beach scene at Asbury Park, NJ, in 
today's New York Times is a Lesser Black-backed Gull (page 16).

Times have changed if this species has become the iconic seagull of the Jersey 
Shore!

Shai Mitra
Bay Shore


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