[nysbirds-l] Western Tanager, lower Manhattan NYC, 11/30

2016-11-30 Thread Thomas Fiore
Wednesday, 30 November, 2016 - City Hall Park, lower Manhattan, New York City A Western Tanager continues at above park this Wednesday morning & seen thru a fresh rain at mid-day (start of more, which rain is very much needed region-wide). The tanager seems fond of the trees (may be high in

[nysbirds-l] Netiquette & Western Tanager report fatigue

2016-11-30 Thread Arie Gilbert
Paul, I concur. However... Not everyone seeks the same info from 'the list'.  Some folks actually like the daily reports of non rarities, {go figure} such as visitors who can get an idea of whats around by reading the archives in preparation for a trip to

RE: [nysbirds-l] St. Paul's Church, Manhattan 1903-04 - 41 species

2016-11-30 Thread Rick
I find some granularity in reporting useful in order to keep tuned to the cadence of seasonal flux, especially in times of growing weather irregularities, even if that means noting odd appearance dates or unexpected frequencies of commoner stuff. This requires judgment on the part of reporters,

[nysbirds-l] NYS eBird Hotspots: BirdTrax Up & Running

2016-11-30 Thread Ben Cacace
The BirdTrax gadget on the wiki that taps into "Rarities" or plain "Sightings" has been down for a few days. I've contacted the developer (Zachary DeBruine) and he showed me how to get to BirdTrax where it is currently being hosted now that the original site is no longer in play:

[nysbirds-l] St. Paul's Church, Manhattan 1903-04 - 41 species

2016-11-30 Thread Deborah Allen
With the recent attention on lower Manhattan parks due to the continuing Western Tanager and multiple Chats, we thought it might be interesting to take a look at the birds that people reported in those same parks in the past. Reading many 19th-20th century articles about NYC birds in the Wilson

RE: [nysbirds-l] St. Paul's Church, Manhattan 1903-04 - 41 species

2016-11-30 Thread Paul R Sweet
Daily lists are great and as I mentioned previously E-bird is an excellent place to record such data. If everyone posted their Central Park lists to NYSBIRDS-L it would certainly dilute the power of the list. See Kevin McGowan's post here

Re: [nysbirds-l] Netiquette & Western Tanager report fatigue

2016-11-30 Thread David Barrett
When the discussion about rare bird posting options began a little over a week ago, I was not sure a new list was needed. As others have pointed out, NYSBirds serves a variety of purposes well, and it already has a relatively large user base. To create yet another source for alerts -- in addition

Re: [nysbirds-l] Netiquette & Western Tanager report fatigue

2016-11-30 Thread Lloyd Spitalnik
When I disbanded Metro Birding Briefs it was because I felt it outlived its usefulness. There were too many other places were reporting their Rarity sightings and info was getting diluted. It didn't take much time out of my life to run it. I'm not interested in resurrecting it but somebody

Re: [nysbirds-l] St. Paul's Church, Manhattan 1903-04 - 41 species

2016-11-30 Thread Phil Jeffrey
The current intent of the list as given on the list's website is not what Kevin McGowan indicated may or may not be the original intent - and I've pointed this out recently - its even linked at the end of every message. Certainly this has not been a purely RBA list for quite some time - although

[nysbirds-l] The NYSBirds List

2016-11-30 Thread Shaibal Mitra
Hi everyone, In theory there are two ways to reform the content of this listserv: (1) discourage posts that are less relevant; and (2) encourage posts that are more relevant. But given the very diverse sentiments expressed here in recent weeks, it's clear that people simply disagree about

Re: [nysbirds-l] St. Paul's Church, Manhattan 1903-04 - 41 species

2016-11-30 Thread Dominic Garcia-Hall
I find most people reporting to eBird are pretty good about including context (location etc) in the comments field - not least because when it's a genuine rarity eBird mandates some kind of commentary. In fact, I'd say once a rarity has had its initial few ebird reports, further comments tend to

Re: [nysbirds-l] Netiquette & Western Tanager report fatigue

2016-11-30 Thread Andrew Baksh
Hi Lloyd, In hindsight, I regretted not answering the bell when you called prior to disbanding Metro Birding Briefs. Like you, I thought the other mediums were sufficient for NYC/S Bird coverage and still do. I don't mind setting up something along the lines of MBB but I warn that I would be

Re: [nysbirds-l] St. Paul's Church, Manhattan 1903-04 - 41 species

2016-11-30 Thread Phil Jeffrey
I don't equate "interesting" with "rare". Rare birds are often well-characterized - not least of all in weekly RBA posts. Interesting birds (self-defined) run a much larger gamut than that, and I can point to a lot of eBird checklists where there's no additional context whatsoever for such

Re: [nysbirds-l] St. Paul's Church, Manhattan 1903-04 - 41 species

2016-11-30 Thread brian . whipple
Please limit postings to 2 cents. On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 6:11 PM Dominic Garcia-Hall wrote: > I find most people reporting to eBird are pretty good about including > context (location etc) in the comments field - not least because when it's > a genuine rarity eBird

Re: [nysbirds-l] ? selasphorus sp. hummingbird (Rufous or Allen's)

2016-11-30 Thread robert adamo
Hi Paul, No, I can not ! To hopefully "legitimize" this post, I'd like to share with the listserve the following information re: the slight differences in bill length between Rufous and Allen's Hummingbirds, which I gleaned from *The Hummingbirds of North America*, Paul A. Johnsgard,

Re: [nysbirds-l] Western Tanager city hall pk Manhattan YES

2016-11-30 Thread Paul R Sweet
Personally I'd rather my inbox fill with reports of genuinely rare birds than mundane daily lists of birds seen in Central Park. E-bird is an appropriate place for this data? What if everyone posted their daily bird walk lists to this list? Just my opinion. Paul Sweet | Department of

Re: [nysbirds-l] Western Tanager city hall pk Manhattan YES

2016-11-30 Thread Paul R Sweet
Personally I'd rather my inbox fill with reports of genuinely rare birds than mundane daily lists of birds seen in Central Park. E-bird is an appropriate place for this data? What if everyone posted their daily bird walk lists to this list? Just my opinion. Paul Sweet | Department of

[nysbirds-l] Western Tanager, lower Manhattan NYC, 11/30

2016-11-30 Thread Thomas Fiore
Wednesday, 30 November, 2016 - City Hall Park, lower Manhattan, New York City A Western Tanager continues at above park this Wednesday morning & seen thru a fresh rain at mid-day (start of more, which rain is very much needed region-wide). The tanager seems fond of the trees (may be high in

[nysbirds-l] Netiquette & Western Tanager report fatigue

2016-11-30 Thread Arie Gilbert
Paul, I concur. However... Not everyone seeks the same info from 'the list'.  Some folks actually like the daily reports of non rarities, {go figure} such as visitors who can get an idea of whats around by reading the archives in preparation for a trip to

Re: [nysbirds-l] Netiquette & Western Tanager report fatigue

2016-11-30 Thread Lloyd Spitalnik
When I disbanded Metro Birding Briefs it was because I felt it outlived its usefulness. There were too many other places were reporting their Rarity sightings and info was getting diluted. It didn't take much time out of my life to run it. I'm not interested in resurrecting it but somebody

[nysbirds-l] NYS eBird Hotspots: BirdTrax Up & Running

2016-11-30 Thread Ben Cacace
The BirdTrax gadget on the wiki that taps into "Rarities" or plain "Sightings" has been down for a few days. I've contacted the developer (Zachary DeBruine) and he showed me how to get to BirdTrax where it is currently being hosted now that the original site is no longer in play:

Re: [nysbirds-l] Netiquette & Western Tanager report fatigue

2016-11-30 Thread David Barrett
When the discussion about rare bird posting options began a little over a week ago, I was not sure a new list was needed. As others have pointed out, NYSBirds serves a variety of purposes well, and it already has a relatively large user base. To create yet another source for alerts -- in addition

[nysbirds-l] St. Paul's Church, Manhattan 1903-04 - 41 species

2016-11-30 Thread Deborah Allen
With the recent attention on lower Manhattan parks due to the continuing Western Tanager and multiple Chats, we thought it might be interesting to take a look at the birds that people reported in those same parks in the past. Reading many 19th-20th century articles about NYC birds in the Wilson

RE: [nysbirds-l] St. Paul's Church, Manhattan 1903-04 - 41 species

2016-11-30 Thread Paul R Sweet
Daily lists are great and as I mentioned previously E-bird is an excellent place to record such data. If everyone posted their Central Park lists to NYSBIRDS-L it would certainly dilute the power of the list. See Kevin McGowan's post here

RE: [nysbirds-l] St. Paul's Church, Manhattan 1903-04 - 41 species

2016-11-30 Thread Rick
I find some granularity in reporting useful in order to keep tuned to the cadence of seasonal flux, especially in times of growing weather irregularities, even if that means noting odd appearance dates or unexpected frequencies of commoner stuff. This requires judgment on the part of reporters,

Re: [nysbirds-l] St. Paul's Church, Manhattan 1903-04 - 41 species

2016-11-30 Thread Phil Jeffrey
The current intent of the list as given on the list's website is not what Kevin McGowan indicated may or may not be the original intent - and I've pointed this out recently - its even linked at the end of every message. Certainly this has not been a purely RBA list for quite some time - although

Re: [nysbirds-l] St. Paul's Church, Manhattan 1903-04 - 41 species

2016-11-30 Thread Dominic Garcia-Hall
I find most people reporting to eBird are pretty good about including context (location etc) in the comments field - not least because when it's a genuine rarity eBird mandates some kind of commentary. In fact, I'd say once a rarity has had its initial few ebird reports, further comments tend to

Re: [nysbirds-l] Netiquette & Western Tanager report fatigue

2016-11-30 Thread Andrew Baksh
Hi Lloyd, In hindsight, I regretted not answering the bell when you called prior to disbanding Metro Birding Briefs. Like you, I thought the other mediums were sufficient for NYC/S Bird coverage and still do. I don't mind setting up something along the lines of MBB but I warn that I would be

Re: [nysbirds-l] St. Paul's Church, Manhattan 1903-04 - 41 species

2016-11-30 Thread brian . whipple
Please limit postings to 2 cents. On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 6:11 PM Dominic Garcia-Hall wrote: > I find most people reporting to eBird are pretty good about including > context (location etc) in the comments field - not least because when it's > a genuine rarity eBird mandates some kind of

Re: [nysbirds-l] ? selasphorus sp. hummingbird (Rufous or Allen's)

2016-11-30 Thread robert adamo
Hi Paul, No, I can not ! To hopefully "legitimize" this post, I'd like to share with the listserve the following information re: the slight differences in bill length between Rufous and Allen's Hummingbirds, which I gleaned from *The Hummingbirds of North America*, Paul A. Johnsgard,

Re: [nysbirds-l] St. Paul's Church, Manhattan 1903-04 - 41 species

2016-11-30 Thread Phil Jeffrey
I don't equate "interesting" with "rare". Rare birds are often well-characterized - not least of all in weekly RBA posts. Interesting birds (self-defined) run a much larger gamut than that, and I can point to a lot of eBird checklists where there's no additional context whatsoever for such

[nysbirds-l] The NYSBirds List

2016-11-30 Thread Shaibal Mitra
Hi everyone, In theory there are two ways to reform the content of this listserv: (1) discourage posts that are less relevant; and (2) encourage posts that are more relevant. But given the very diverse sentiments expressed here in recent weeks, it's clear that people simply disagree about