RE: [obc] Hey Avery et al.

2002-07-23 Thread Les Humphreys (K)
What accident statistics are there to justify this initiative - other than reducing the numbers of cyclists on the road, I wonder if there has been any reduction in the numbers of serious head injuries since helmet use has become mandatory. -Original Message- From: Avery

RE: [obc] Hey Avery et al.

2002-07-23 Thread Tom Trottier
On Tuesday, July 23, 2002 at 8:46, Les Humphreys (K) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote re RE: [obc] Hey Avery et al. saying: What accident statistics are there to justify this initiative - other than reducing the numbers of cyclists on the road, I wonder if there has been any reduction in the

[obc] Helmet arguments

2002-07-23 Thread Tom Trottier
See http://www.helmets.org/negativs.htm for common anti-helmet arguments and the site's responses. Tom --- Quidquid latine dictum sit altum viditur - ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)

RE: [obc] Hey Avery et al.

2002-07-23 Thread Dominic Richens
Tom Trottier writes: The question in my mind is not whether helmets, or helmet laws, save lives. They do. The question is whether people have the right to live dangerously. Do we have to have all danger mandated out of our control? Will skydiving and rockclimbing be outlawed? If adult

RE: [obc] Hey Avery et al.

2002-07-23 Thread Avery Burdett
Les Humphreys (K) wrote: What accident statistics are there to justify this initiative - other than reducing the numbers of cyclists on the road, I wonder if there has been any reduction in the numbers of serious head injuries since helmet use has become mandatory. First of all, this is a

RE: [obc] Hey Avery et al.

2002-07-23 Thread Avery Burdett
Before repeating quotes off the Internet, one should examine the underlying data. Clinical research is tainted by politics so one has to look at them with skeptical eye. This study suffers the same inherent methodological flaws as the 85% one previously mentioned. Back in 1998 and 1999, the

[obc] WTB: Legal TT Helmet

2002-07-23 Thread Aaron Fillion
Does anyone know where I can get a legal Timetrial helmet? Legal meaning one is safety certified. Are there any bike shops in the Ottawa Area that stock TT helmets? I would like to get a: The Prologue http://www.louisgarneau.com/eng/whatsnew.asp#prologue I tried to order one from a bike

Re: [obc] WTB: Legal TT Helmet

2002-07-23 Thread Tom Trottier
Dear Aaron, I think every current helmet sold in Canada has one or more of the approvals. tOM On Tuesday, July 23, 2002 at 18:58, Aaron Fillion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote re [obc] WTB: Legal TT Helmet saying: Does anyone know where I can get a legal Timetrial helmet? Legal meaning one is

RE: [obc] Hey Avery et al.

2002-07-23 Thread Les Humphreys (K)
It's not a question of looking dorky. Long before automobiles took over the roads, bicycles were a convenient form of transportation for shoppers and commuters. Until SUVs became the weapon of choice, people had actually started to think that there was some merit in the bicycle as a non

Re: [obc] Hey Avery et al.

2002-07-23 Thread Brian Martin
Tom Trottier writes: The question in my mind is not whether helmets, or helmet laws, save lives. They do. The question is whether people have the right to live dangerously. Do we have to have all danger mandated out of our control? Will skydiving and rockclimbing be outlawed? If

Re: [obc] WTB: Legal TT Helmet

2002-07-23 Thread Brian Martin
Tom Trottier wrote: Dear Aaron, I think every current helmet sold in Canada has one or more of the approvals. tOM On Tuesday, July 23, 2002 at 18:58, Aaron Fillion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote re [obc] WTB: Legal TT Helmet saying: Does anyone know where I can get a legal Timetrial

[obc] July 23 Women's Time Trial Results

2002-07-23 Thread mcinnisc
Cool and breezy - 20 riders, one first-timer. You may see the results at http://www3.sympatico.ca/celia.mcinnis/wtt/2002/index.html . Enjoy, Celia (long time club member, EtC.) - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office:

Re: [obc] WTB: Legal TT Helmet

2002-07-23 Thread Peter James
Tom Trottier wrote: Just that if he can buy it in Canada, it has to be legal. It is illegal to sell a non-certified bike helmet. I'm intrigued - which ministry or department or whatever has the power to regulate the sale of helmets? Can you please provide evidence that this statement is

Re: [obc] WTB: Legal TT Helmet

2002-07-23 Thread Tom Trottier
On Tuesday, July 23, 2002 at 20:50, Brian Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote re Re: [obc] WTB: Legal TT Helmet saying: ... Good job Tom, but you forgot Rebec Kroes, Pecco's (market) and Christie's bicycle ski shop in Chelsea. The gun shop guy on Pleasant Park who sell bicycles and

[obc] Helmetless Superstars

2002-07-23 Thread Derek J Medland
Helmet technology makes it so easy to wear one. Light, protective, trong, stylish and vented. It keeps your head cooler than not wearing a helmet, helps you avoid heat loss, and it can save your life. We have all crashed or been bonked on the head while MTBing enough to know that there is no

RE: [obc] WTB: Legal TT Helmet

2002-07-23 Thread Avery Burdett
Tom Trottier as usual is confused. Provincial mandatory helmet laws specify by regulation the standards to which helmets must conform. Most products sold as bicycle helmets in stores, including Canadian Tire, meet one those standards. Interestingly, Canada has a different standard for young

RE: [obc] WTB: Legal TT Helmet

2002-07-23 Thread Tom Trottier
On Wednesday, July 24, 2002 at 3:24, Avery Burdett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote re RE: [obc] WTB: Legal TT Helmet saying: Tom Trottier as usual is confused. To paraphrase Churchill, tomorrow I will be less confused, while Avery has no hope of improvement. Tom --- Quidquid latine dictum sit

Re: [obc] WTB: Legal TT Helmet

2002-07-23 Thread Tom Trottier
A salesman told me. I presume it would be Ontario law. tOM On Tuesday, July 23, 2002 at 21:55, Peter James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote re Re: [obc] WTB: Legal TT Helmet saying: Tom Trottier wrote: Just that if he can buy it in Canada, it has to be legal. It is illegal to sell a