Re: [ol-tech] a few notes on rdf views

2010-06-10 Thread Rob Styles
In my experience constraining the rdf+XML syntax does work well in making the rdf more palatable for those wanting XML. However, also from real experience, suggesting consumers use XML tools does the consumer a dis-service. Rdf is a graph, a web of relationships, which is what makes it less

Re: [ol-tech] a few notes on rdf views

2010-06-09 Thread Karen Coyle
Quoting Erik Hetzner ehetz...@gmail.com: At Tue, 08 Jun 2010 11:53:45 -0700, I?m not sure the distinction here between URI and URL. I think the RDF Ross is describing is: M Mahy foaf:page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Mahy . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Mahy

Re: [ol-tech] a few notes on rdf views

2010-06-09 Thread Karen Coyle
Quoting Ross Singer rossfsin...@gmail.com: For the wikipedia link, it may also be appropriate to use foaf:isPrimaryTopicOf rather than foaf:page, although there may not be enough confidence in the integrity of the data to make that assumption. That's an interesting distinction. I do like

Re: [ol-tech] a few notes on rdf views

2010-06-09 Thread Lee Passey
On 6/8/2010 8:23 PM, Erik Hetzner wrote: [snip] In my opinion, RDF is more constraining than XML, because it forces the designer to think clearly about the underlying model, rather than presenting a lot of different metadata fields. Then I will leave it to you to explain to the W3C how the

Re: [ol-tech] a few notes on rdf views

2010-06-08 Thread Karen Coyle
Quoting Ross Singer rossfsin...@gmail.com: So, for: http://openlibrary.org/authors/OL31800A.rdf You could have something like looks more like: I'm assuming this is a response to the 2nd draft RDF that I send out, given the similarities rdf:RDF

Re: [ol-tech] a few notes on rdf views

2010-06-07 Thread Ed Summers
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Lee Passey l...@novomail.net wrote: So before any questions about how best to represent a person in RDF can be addressed, you should try to find out who will be consuming the data, and what their expectations are. I think this is an important point, and is

Re: [ol-tech] a few notes on rdf views

2010-06-07 Thread Karen Coyle
Quoting Ed Summers e...@pobox.com: On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Lee Passey l...@novomail.net wrote: So before any questions about how best to represent a person in RDF can be addressed, you should try to find out who will be consuming the data, and what their expectations are. I think

Re: [ol-tech] a few notes on rdf views

2010-06-02 Thread Erik Hetzner
At Wed, 2 Jun 2010 11:09:02 +0530, Anand Chitipothu wrote: On 02-Jun-10, at 7:34 AM, Ed Summers wrote: Just another quick update to let you know I emailed foaf-dev for advice: http://lists.foaf-project.org/pipermail/foaf-dev/2010-June/ 010253.html To start hacking on the code

Re: [ol-tech] a few notes on rdf views

2010-06-02 Thread Karen Coyle
To make things a big more concrete: http://kcoyle.net/temp/comparePersonVocabs.pdf is my comparison between BIO, FOAF, RDA, and the OL author type. I underlined fields that I though could be used, but don't consider this definitive. kc -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net

Re: [ol-tech] a few notes on rdf views

2010-06-02 Thread Ed Summers
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net wrote: Have you tried an Edition in RDF? The Work and Author ones are just stubs that Anand created. Here's an Edition rdf: http://openlibrary.org/books/OL6026352M.rdf No, I hadn't seen that yet! That is a perfect example of what

Re: [ol-tech] a few notes on rdf views

2010-06-01 Thread Anand Chitipothu
On 01-Jun-10, at 7:28 PM, Ed Summers wrote: Kudos for keeping the linkeddata rdf views in the new version of OpenLibrary. I just noticed that the application/rdf+xml views seem to lack a namespace prefix definition for 'rdf'. This causes some tools to choke when parsing the XML. Also I

Re: [ol-tech] a few notes on rdf views

2010-06-01 Thread Anand Chitipothu
e...@curry:~/Downloads$ xmllint --format http://openlibrary.org/works/OL158398W.rdf http://openlibrary.org/works/OL158398W.rdf:4: namespace error : Namespace prefix rdf on RDF is not defined This error is fixed now. Anand___ Ol-tech mailing list

Re: [ol-tech] a few notes on rdf views

2010-06-01 Thread Ed Summers
Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net wrote: There are two possible values for author: the author ID and the author name. It seems to me that both are of interest -- the author ID would be another entry point for getting more info, but the author name allows immediate use/display of the work data.

Re: [ol-tech] a few notes on rdf views

2010-06-01 Thread George Oates
Hi Ed, Thanks - and yes, we're beginning to track RDF-related issues in our Launchpad: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openlibrary/+bugs?field.tag=rdf This would be Super Awesome time for you to patch the source!! Can we help you along with that? Cheers, george Ed Summers wrote: Kudos for

Re: [ol-tech] a few notes on rdf views

2010-06-01 Thread George Oates
Oops :) Excuse me! Anand Chitipothu wrote: On 01-Jun-10, at 7:28 PM, Ed Summers wrote: Kudos for keeping the linkeddata rdf views in the new version of OpenLibrary. I just noticed that the application/rdf+xml views seem to lack a namespace prefix definition for 'rdf'. This causes some

Re: [ol-tech] a few notes on rdf views

2010-06-01 Thread Ed Summers
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net wrote: Agreed. However, we aren't using SKOS, so I'm thinking we'll use something like: rdf:Description rdf:about=http://openlibrary.org/authors/OL22022A;          rdf:valueBarbara Cartland/rdf:value       /rdf:Description Does

Re: [ol-tech] a few notes on rdf views

2010-06-01 Thread Anand Chitipothu
On 02-Jun-10, at 7:34 AM, Ed Summers wrote: Just another quick update to let you know I emailed foaf-dev for advice: http://lists.foaf-project.org/pipermail/foaf-dev/2010-June/ 010253.html To start hacking on the code I'd need to get a develop instance up and running which I imagine