Re: Wiki, SVN, other resources - Questions

2011-06-14 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Greg Stein wrote: After all, we may want to choose to use Bugzilla instead of Jira. IOW, the community needs to decide on a bug tracker: Jira or Bugzilla. The OpenOffice.org Issue Tracker was migrated to a (possibly slightly customized) Bugzilla installation a few months ago, and remaining

Re: [discuss] remove of binfilter module

2011-06-14 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Carl Marcum wrote: Would this include the MS xls, doc, formats? No. We are talking about ancient formats used only by StarOffice and early versions of OpenOffice.org. The import/export of any Microsoft Office formats won't be affected by the proposed change. Regards, Andrea.

Re: Can we rationalize and formalize a language project?

2011-06-17 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: I'd also like to modify the original OOo notion of a native language project. When I set them up, I did so with a focus on language not region. And you were right, there is no need to change it. Or, to be more precise, there are two categories of tasks: 1) Translation

Re: Release old fonts? (was: Subversion history)

2011-06-17 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Pedro Giffuni wrote: Wikipedia recalls that Staroffice had twelve western fonts, clipart, and other stuff as proprietary components. And those will not be liberated; rumors about this spread due to inaccurate or unclear blog posts by the Document Foundation and the Free Software Foundation,

Releasing OOo 3.4 on the old infrastructure

2011-06-19 Thread Andrea Pescetti
I understand that the necessary code reorganization in the Apache project will forbid a public release for months. On the other hand, OpenOffice.org 3.4 beta has been out for several weeks, is regarded by our QA testers as remarkably stable, has a dedicated code line and it is not far from

Re: Oh, let's not forget @openoffice.org too

2011-06-20 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Dave Fisher wrote: We certainly need a plan that does not simply stop openoffice.org email. Actually, as others said I would just keep the @openoffice.org addresses running; to address a concern, I've used mine for many thousands of OOo-related actions and nobody ever questioned if I was

Re: Contributors versus Committers versus PMC members - AND USERS

2011-06-25 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Rob Weir wrote: Do we know how many language-specific user lists we have at OOo today? Not forums, but user mailing lists. I don't know the total figures, but the Italian N-L project has 10, 5 of which active: - utenti (generic users list, about 500 subscribers) - discussioni (for discussions

Re: Extensions Website down again

2011-06-26 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Raphael Bircher wrote: Am 25.06.11 22:23, schrieb Raphael Bircher: Hi at all Our Extensions website http://extensions.service.openoffice.org is down again. The site is back again, I will look for a monitoring now. Typo correction since there are people on this list which are still

Re: Differences between OOO and LibreOffice.

2011-07-02 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 30/06/2011 Ian Lynch wrote: If I save an odf file from OOo it will open exactly the same in LibO. If that isn't true than I would be interested to know where things break. Talking about 100% compatibility is probably exaggerated, since there are portions of the ODF standard (e.g. table

Re: Releasing OOo 3.4 on the old infrastructure

2011-07-03 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 19/06/2011 Andrea Pescetti wrote: Would it be possible to release OOo 3.4 on the old (Oracle-owned) infrastructure, and maybe take advantage of this release to educate users and volunteers about the coming new infrastructure at Apache? ... I take for granted that the community would support

Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

2011-07-09 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Ivo Hinkelmann wrote: I would also prefer that we just called it OpenOffice.org. This brand is known everywhere and this is not a fork but the moved original OOo project. Same for me. This Apache podling has many nice features, but its most distinctive ones are: - Participation of many

Re: http://OpenOffice.org httpd logs, web analytics, etc.

2011-07-10 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 06/07/2011 Andrew Rist wrote: I'm trying to track this down also - it's pretty distributed, and I am not sure what is sharable. I'll do what I can. (does anyone know who used to collect the stats for OOo?) The main http://www.openoffice.org/ site has Google Analytics active, but this

Re: Extensions and templates site down

2011-07-11 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Reizinger Zoltán wrote: The two sites works sporadically, needs four five web page refresh to load: http://templates.services.openoffice.org/ http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/ To help OOo present users, needs to stabilize sites work. Somebody knows what the cause of this problem.

Re: Extensions and templates site down

2011-07-12 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 11/07/2011 TJ Frazier wrote: On 7/11/2011 07:28, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Yes, I posted some more details in this message a few weeks ago: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201106.mbox/browser and I don't have further updates available. ... Andrea Pescetti's

Re: Extensions and templates site down

2011-07-13 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 12/07/2011 Simon Phipps wrote: TDF are just about to launch a full version of their extensions templates system and they would be perfectly happy for AOOo to redirect the URL that OpenOffice.org is using to access the repository so that it uses the system TDF are hosting for LibreOffice.

Re: Extensions and templates site down

2011-07-13 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 12/07/2011 Rob Weir wrote: 1) The new extensions.openoffice.org site hosts no code or binaries. It is simply a directory of 3rd party extensions and links to outside sites for the actual files. This would really be suboptimal since the OpenOffice.org community really expects to use the

Re: Suggestion for OOo branding...

2011-07-22 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Gianluca Turconi wrote: this issue of the colored icons has been considered a major one for several time in the Italian OOo community, both for usability and brand reasons. Indeed. To add to the links already seen in other messages, the OpenOffice.org community (actually, the names in the

Re: [email] openoffice.org email / user transition

2011-08-12 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Rob Weir wrote: On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Dave Fisherdave2w...@comcast.net wrote: (2) openoffice.org registered users. Should we have a way to maintain openoffice.org email aliases? Who do we do this for? Yes Dave, it is important to save those aliases. On the users side, the

Re: [WWW] Web analytics

2011-08-12 Thread Andrea Pescetti
drew wrote: Currently the OO.o web sites, all of them, utilize a third party analytics firm (not Google). Actually, as I wrote a few weeks ago, http://www.openoffice.org is using Google Analytics; I just rechecked and I can confirm that http://www.openoffice.org loads elements from

Re: Fundraising

2011-08-13 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Jürgen Schmidt wrote: The Spanish project collects also money on their own Maybe other language projects collect also money, i don't know PLIO, the association corresponding to the Italian Native-Lang Project, has been a registered charity in Italy since 2005 and receives contributions from

Re: openoffice.org domains transferred to ASF

2011-08-17 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Shane Curcuru wrote: The list of domains includes: ... http://itopenoffice.org http://nl-openoffice.org http://nlopenoffice.org http://openoffice.org.il http://itopenoffice.org Any reasons why http://itopenoffice.org (that seems to be a protective registration against http://it.openoffice.org

Re: OOO Test Bugzilla instance

2011-08-28 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 27/08/2011 Reizinger Zoltán wrote: I can login, all my earlier saved searches available, can create new bug, change bug status from unconfirmed to new and others. Same for me, with a minor difference: my My Bugs saved search only considers UNCONFIRMED, NEW, ACCEPTED, REOPENED bugs in the

Re: OOO Test Bugzilla instance

2011-08-28 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 27/08/2011 Dave Fisher wrote: That these are used to login to www, extensions, templates, and bugzilla? Anything else? Besides what Pavel already pointed out, they are used on QATrack too. And are these the 455,422 people on http://openoffice.org/people? Yes, but I honestly don't know

Re: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/ is now live - Regression Check

2011-08-30 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: It will be useful for folks who already have issues on the OpenOffice.org bugzilla to go through the password reset. I recommend using your @openoffice.org ID and the password you have already on openoffice.org for simple continuity. This might the beginning of a new

Re: [ooo-user] was RE: us...@openoffice.org [Was: Re: [Discussion] d...@openoffice.org]

2011-09-03 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 01/09/2011 Rob Weir wrote: Good point. Maybe we can get a fixed footer to occur on the user list emails, just 2 or 3 lines ... 1) How to unsubscribe to the list 2) Where to report bugs 3) Where the support forums are 4) File attachments not supported, so here's where to go to share a file

Re: Fwd: [users] Re: Languages

2011-09-03 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Pedro F. Giffuni wrote: Neapolitan is classified as a dialect, not a language, for good reasons. It's in ISO 639-2 so it's a language, and it's distinct from Italian. Among the local languages spoken in Italy, we already fully support the four variants of Sardinian according to ISO 639-3

Re: Fwd: [users] Re: Languages

2011-09-04 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Rob Weir wrote: 1) What constitutes a language is as much a political and cultural question as a linguistic one. No sense debating it here. Ultimately what matters to us is whether ISO assigned a code to the language or not, so a technical issue; as I wrote earlier, it did in ISO 639-2

Re: An invitation to committers to the OOo Community Forums

2011-09-04 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Terry Ellison wrote: [Rob Weir] Honestly, if a forum volunteer is not already on this list, understanding what we are doing and how Apache project works and how the code base is developing, etc., then they will have a very difficult time fairly representing the project to the users. ... -0.75

Re: [DISCUSS] Announcing Apache ooo Bugzilla on OpenOffice.org Lists

2011-09-04 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 03/09/2011 FR web forum wrote: [TJ Frazier] old Bugzilla is moaning in red letters that it is now read-only, and doesn't have a forwarding URL. Somebody with admin privileges at OO.o should fix that. +1 Definitely. The I do not have a new URL for the RW Bugzilla yet! warning leaves users

Re: What is needed for Support Forums to be fully integrated into the Apache OpenOffice.org project

2011-09-06 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Terry Ellison wrote: So my answer is that I don't need to do this. Hence this email is my last involvement in Apache and the Forums. No more work. Not more listening to attacks. No more listening to support Very sad news. It's bad to see the community fragmenting again, especially the forums,

Re: [DISCUSS] Announcing Apache ooo Bugzilla on OpenOffice.org Lists

2011-09-06 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Dave Fisher wrote: For the website I have a sed script that is intended to be used to change urls - ooo/site/trunk/tools/urlrewrite.sed ... So, I am adding s/http:\/\/openoffice.org\/bugzilla/https:\/\/issues.apache.org\/ooo/g It would be best to include subdomains (as a generic

Re: QUASTE working?

2011-09-07 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Raphael Bircher wrote: I'm actualy not sure if we realy want to use Quaste. Quaste was a special tool for our automated tests. Yes, but recently it had included TCM, the very important tool to track the (manual) community testing:

Re: ooo-myspell at apache-extras.org

2011-09-24 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 22/09/2011 Pedro F. Giffuni wrote: Hi Gianluca; Is your work related to this version? http://members.xoom.it/trasforma/ispell/ Just wondering if we have to contact them too. Whatever this is, it is widely unrelated to the dictionary currently included in OpenOffice.org 3.3. The best

Re: [users] Re: Languages

2011-09-25 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 04/09/2011 Eike Rathke wrote: I don't know though what I should do at the moment with new languages/locales being requested, they'd just pile up. May I ask whether the situation has changed now that commits to the code happen more regularly? I can understand that in the current situation

Re: [DISCUSS] Announcing Apache ooo Bugzilla on OpenOffice.org Lists

2011-10-01 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 03/09/2011 Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: I am preparing a message for OpenOffice.org lists on the shutdown of the OO.o bugzilla, the availability of the Apache ooo issues tracker, and advice on resetting passwords... Are there any national-language lists where this would be important?

Re: GStreamer avmedia plugin as copyleft?

2011-10-05 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 04/10/2011 23:58 RGB ES wrote: I can see a big problem coming: with every single Linux distro using LibO for the foreseeable future and considering the fact that nobody will build OOo at home (specially on windows), if, say, next year somebody install OOo 3.4 that will be for sure an Apache

Re: Legacy OOo SVN

2011-10-17 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 17/10/2011 Maho NAKATA wrote: From: Rob Weir I'm told that before SVN the project used CVS. Is it worth backing that up as well? Yes, sure. Some projects like native lang projects are not covered by SVN. What exactly is not covered by SVN in the Native-Lang projects? The Italian N-L

Re: [DISCUSS] Review of OpenOffice.org Forums Agreement

2011-10-17 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 11/10/2011 Rob Weir wrote [pasting the Wiki proposal]: *C.* Forum admins must sign the ICLA. They will interact with the Apache Infra group and should be official project members. At least one Moderator, who will sign the ICLA, or Admin on every NL forum will commit to reporting forum status

Re: [VOTE] Acceptance of the OpenOffice.org Proposal

2011-10-19 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 18/10/2011 Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Changes+integrate+the+forums+into+the+AOOo+project [ ] +1 approve [ ] 0 abstain [ ] -1 disapprove +1 (approve) from me (among other things, a global moderator in the Italian Forum and a user happy

Re: [Proposal] Shutting down legacy OOo mailing lists

2011-10-19 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 17/10/2011 Rob Weir wrote: I'm making a proposal now to shut down the legacy OOo mailing lists and direct the existing subscribers to one of the AOOo mailing lists. I realize that this is not the solution that many of us would prefer, but I believe that it is the best way forward that anyone

Re: [Proposal] Shutting down legacy OOo mailing lists

2011-10-19 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Shane Curcuru wrote: Note that I disagree with having three lists; I would far prefer to start with a single list per NL. No problem about this; I was merely envisioning a structure where we had an announcements list (300 subscribers now) and two discussion lists, one for users

Re: Disposition of *.services.oo.o

2011-10-22 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 22/10/2011 Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 10/22/2011 02:25 AM, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton: It is unlikely that historical downloads will be available from the same download location as the Apache OOo podling and Apache OOo TLP releases. At the same time, it is important to preserve the historical

Re: [Proposal] Shutting down legacy OOo mailing lists

2011-10-23 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 20/10/2011 Rob Weir wrote: I mentioned the technical details of moderator-initiated subscriptions merely as a follow up to a side proposal that Andrea had made for the Italian lists. Thanks for trying and reporting. I see that, as you wrote later and Oracle confirmed, corporate policies

Re: [Proposal] Shutting down legacy OOo mailing lists

2011-10-23 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 22/10/2011 Dave Fisher wrote: On Oct 21, 2011, at 5:33 PM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: I would prefer that I was simply subscribed so that I could do minimal work to make it happen. ... Unfortunately we will not be getting any user lists from Oracle so an automatic re-subscription is not

Re: Bugzilla: can we rename some of the product categories?

2011-10-26 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 25/10/2011 Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 10/25/2011 12:58 AM, schrieb Regina Henschel: Rob Weir schrieb: Would it be possible to bring all the locale-related categories together, e.g.: lang-aa lang-af ... and so on? ... I would prefer to have one item 'native language' in 'Product' and the

Re: Draft mailing list notification post

2011-10-26 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 25/10/2011 Rob Weir wrote: Maybe split this into two emails, and space them a week apart? So one email that is the intro, gives the background on the Incubation, the migration effort, etc. Short and sweet. They might actually read it. Then follow a week later with As we previously

Re: Staging For Apache Hosted OpenOffice.org Website

2011-10-30 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 30/10/2011 Dave Fisher wrote: On Oct 29, 2011, at 9:30 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Can you please bring in the italian site too? It surely needs a lot of work but its a start! I'd already started :-D Thanks! Can you confirm you are importing the latest SVN from Kenai? Even though large

Re: Ohloh

2011-10-30 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Pedro Giffuni wrote: Someone should just create a SUN OpenOffice.org project at Ohloh and point it to the Hg mirror, that way people will get the credit they deserve. I agree; an openofficeorg-legacy project should be created and archived if Ohloh is not able to track two repositories (the

Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?

2011-11-04 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 11/04/2011 03:01 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: Did we lose the ftp site as well? ... I don't know how widely that was used, but it seems to have been where many of the NL spell checking dictionaries were stored: Many dic's are stored in the mirror network like here:

Re: [ISSUE] Shut-down of all name@ openoffice.org e-mail addresses

2011-11-05 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 02/11/2011 Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: I think the most-important thing that Oracle could do right now, while the forwarding service is operating, is send a bulk e-mail to all current myname@ openoffice.org account holders asking them to opt-in to any transfer to Apache. This is a brilliant

Re: Moved over the old OOo archive

2011-11-05 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 04/11/2011 Marcus (OOo) wrote: ... On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 1:20 AM, Raphael Bircherr.birc...@gmx.ch wrote: http://archive.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/ . I've just finished and committed: http://ooo-site.apache.org/download/archive.html Thanks Marcus for taking care of preserving the

Re: [Proposal] Shutting down legacy OOo mailing lists

2011-11-05 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 19/10/2011 Dennis E. Hamilton ha scritto: Can you assist us in connecting with other Native Language List (NL-list) moderators and enlisting them in providing similar support for their communities of users? I just took the occasion of an e-mail to the native-lang list to urge other

Re: working on a OpenOffice roadmap

2011-11-06 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 02/11/2011 Martin Hollmichel wrote: So what ASF needs to do here for a 3.3.1 release is to set up the DNS entry to a new server. Besides these infrastructure considerations, is the Oracle build infrastructure still available? If a 3.3.1 release is distributed in binary form, it would be

Re: GPL'd dictionaries (was Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?)

2011-11-06 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 05/11/2011 Gianluca Turconi wrote: 2011/11/5 Pedro Giffuni I have been looking at the situation of the dictionaries, and particular the italian dictionary. You are right that it will not be covered by the SGA. Sure, and to be more precise there are no portions of which Oracle has the

Re: GPL'd dictionaries (was Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?)

2011-11-06 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 06/11/2011 Pedro Giffuni wrote: My question here is, why are you using a software license if you don't think most of it's provisions apply. Shouldn't you use Creative Commons license, or the GNU FDL instead? This is an interesting question, but the Italian dictionary started with the same

Re: Do recent bugs filed against Libre 3.4 need to be refiled with apache tracker?

2011-11-10 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 09/11/2011 Pedro Giffuni wrote: On the long run I think LO and AOOo will keep diverging more and more and the number of shared bugs will eventually vanish. It might be, but in recent months I actually did cross-link bugs from the OpenOffice.org Bugzilla to the LibreOffice bug tracker and

Re: GPL'd dictionaries (was Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?)

2011-11-10 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 09/11/2011 Mathias Bauer wrote: On Linux we even can use the Hunspell dictionaries that are installed (or installable) in the system. It needs to provide a single configuration file in the build to make that happen (at least last time I used that feature). True, but as others noted, here we

Re: GPL'd dictionaries (was Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?)

2011-11-10 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 08/11/2011 Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: dictionaries are extensions. They have their place at http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/dictionaries The people actually developing the dictionary build the extension and upload them to that site. The same situation as before Yes, except

Re: [VOTE] Trademark and Brand

2011-11-11 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Donald Harbison wrote: a) Apache OpenOffice.org b) Apache OpenOffice c) Apache Open Office d) Apache Office +1 for a) Apache OpenOffice.org as product name. Andrea

Re: Ohloh

2011-11-12 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 11/11/2011 Rob Weir wrote: On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Apache OOo is correct (Kudos to arist@) but it is reported as a duplicate and will be deleted. When it is deleted actually means it is merged, along with its history, with the OpenOffice project. OK, and

Re: GPL'd dictionaries (was Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?)

2011-11-12 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 11/11/2011 RGB ES wrote: 2011/11/11 Andrea Pescetti Excluding dictionaries from builds would result in confused/enraged users unless there is a way to make dictionary installation so smooth ... Yes, except that OOo builds did never distribute dictionaries outside English, French and Italian

Re: Mailing list user migration: Staging and volunteers

2011-11-13 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 25/10/2011 Rob Weir wrote: Process for getting a new mailing list created is here: http://www.apache.org/dev/committers.html#new-mailing-list Probably makes sense to start with the largest NL communities first? I had a look at this and at the mentioned EZMLM Moderator's and Administrator's

Re: GPL'd dictionaries (was Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?)

2011-11-13 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: A rough analysis http://people.apache.org/~arielch/dictionaries.ods shows that more than half language packs didn't distribute the three DICT, HYPHEN and THES dics. Thanks Ariel for the useful data. By crossing it with data from

[CODE] configure.in: yes/no messages swapped in --enable-copyleft

2011-11-20 Thread Andrea Pescetti
It seems that the yes and no messages corresponding to the --enable-copyleft option are swapped in configure.in; this has no impact on the build, but it gives the user a wrong feedback about the options he specified. The fix would just consist in swapping the yes and no messages; for those

Re: [DISCUSS]: content of the about dialog box

2011-11-21 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Rob Weir wrote: So in total, maybe something like: = Copyright © 2011 Apache Software Foundation. All rights reserved. I'm not sure about this. Is there any code that is under the Apache copyright? As far as I know, the copyright still belongs to Oracle and third-party contributors.

Re: [CODE] configure.in: yes/no messages swapped in --enable-copyleft

2011-11-21 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Andre Fischer wrote: good point but please keep in mind that this is a temporary workaround. Much work is currently being done ... the --enable-copyleft switch will not live for very long. Thanks for the information, but since configure is writing a wrong (and potentially confusing) message,

Re: Proposal for retirement of openoffice.org email forwarder

2011-11-23 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 21/11/2011 Rob Weir wrote: Please note: I don't want to discuss here the merits of shutting down or not shutting down such a forwarding service. That discussion was made moot by an ASF Board decision against hosting such a general-access email forwarding service like the legacy OOo had.

Re: GPL'd dictionaries (was Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?)

2011-11-25 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Gianluca Turconi wrote: Il 24/11/2011 17.39, Ariel Constenla-Haile ha scritto: Dictionaries are developed by individuals/entities outside OOo, they were never developed inside the OOo source tree. I'm not sure what was the procedure (sure Gianluca can comment), but it seems like these

Re: GPL'd dictionaries (was Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?)

2011-11-25 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Andrea Pescetti quoted the FSE answer about mere aggregation of GPLed dictionary. One of the reasons indeed, but not the main reason. The main reason for it was that, unlike what would happen when using a GPL library (i.e., that the virality of GPL would mean that the GPL applied to the program

Re: [CODE] configure.in: yes/no messages swapped in --enable-copyleft

2011-11-27 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 22/11/2011 Andre Fischer wrote: On 21.11.2011 19:59, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Thanks for the information, but since configure is writing a wrong (and potentially confusing) message, and the fix I sent is trivial and totally harmless, why not just fix it? ... You are absolutely right, and I

Re: Proposal for retirement of openoffice.org email forwarder

2011-11-27 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Rob Weir wrote: So what systems do you think might be sending a lot of emails at once to openoffice.org email addresses? 1) Legacy OpenOffice.org mailing lists 2) Bugzilla? Any others? I think Bugzilla is the one more likely to send mass e-mails to openoffice.org addresses; I've seen that now

Re: Rationalizing two OpenOffice websites

2011-11-27 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 24/11/2011 Dave Fisher wrote: Yes and I would avoid doing anymore N-L projects. Since Khirano is willing to do a translation of the new main site. If Pedro and the other Italians and MArcus and the other Germans. Plus Alexandro and the Spanish are in Consensus to do translations of the new

Re: What about BrOffice?

2011-11-28 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Jomar Silva wrote: We had to use BrOffice as the product name because OpenOffice was a registered trademark in Brazil, and AFAIK Apache OpenOffice will not have problems here. If I recall correctly, the issue about OpenOffice being a registered trademark (by some entity different than

Re: GPL'd dictionaries (was Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?)

2011-11-29 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 29/11/2011 Andre Fischer wrote: I have now a patch for removing the dictionaries module. ... So now would be the time to raise objections to this and provide alternative solutions. I had set https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=117605 as a blocker issue for this, since we still

Re: [DISCUSS]: hosting of source code that doesn't belong to the office directly

2011-12-03 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 30/11/2011 Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 11/30/11 1:31 PM, Rob Weir wrote: Maybe just call it extensions ? This could be the root for standard extensions that are produced by this project. Some might be app dev related. But we might have other standard extensions in the future, e.g., a CMIS

Re: How to provide Linguistic Tools replacements after the removal of GPL'd modules

2011-12-04 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 30/11/2011 Gianluca Turconi wrote: Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org ha scritto: That is worth a try. Someone would need to enter a JIRA issue for this ... If we do that, we'll have an answer within a week or two. Andrea Pescetti could have already done it. He should give more details here

Re: Moved over the old OOo archive

2011-12-04 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 06/11/2011 Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 11/05/2011 03:02 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: the archive is missing old builds (i.e., 2.3.0). They were removed from the archive to save space. If space now allows, I can provide the older builds that had been removed from the archive (or at least

Re: Who knows Apache OO 3.4 Test Cases and Old Test Plan?

2011-12-06 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 15/11/2011 Peter Junge wrote: Am 12.11.2011 20:14, schrieb Uwe Altmann: Once there was http://www.sunvirtuallab.com:8001/tcm2/opensource/tcm_index.cgi?tcm_config=newooo as a home of tcm (test case management) - there have been a lot of test cases for manual tests we used especially for L10n

Re: Moved over the old OOo archive

2011-12-06 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 04/12/2011 Dave Fisher wrote: I was not aware that Infrastructure added OOo legacy downloads to http://archive.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/ So, I guess the question is what procedure should be used to update the archive with the missing versions from:

Re: Extensions and templates

2011-12-07 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 29/11/2011 Rob Weir wrote: ==Option 1: Remain at OSUOSL== We could remain with OSUOSL hosting. However, the existing site is very unstable. This would be best both for short and long term. In the short term, it provides continuity of service and it doesn't break existing links. In the

Re: Extensions and templates

2011-12-08 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Gavin McDonald wrote: From: Andrea Pescetti On 29/11/2011 Rob Weir wrote: ==Option 1: Remain at OSUOSL== We could remain with OSUOSL hosting. However, the existing site is very unstable. This would be best both for short and long term. ... Sorry, OSUOSL don’t want anything to do

Re: Legacy openoffice.org email addresses in the legacy website

2011-12-08 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 21/11/2011 Rob Weir wrote: A sorted list of the most frequently mentioned addresses can be found by: grep -o -r -i --no-filename --include=*.html [[:alnum:]+\.\_\-]*@openoffice.org . | sort | uniq -c | sort -n -r I see the following. But I cannot easily tell what is a name versus an official

Re: (Draft) Email forwarding public announcement

2011-12-08 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 30/11/2011 Rob Weir wrote: Some specific points that could use more detail include project services (lists, wikis, Bugzilla, etc.) that would be very commonly used with openoffice.org email addresses. I think I listed them all. But can you think of others? I just checked and I confirm what

Re: (Draft) Email forwarding public announcement

2011-12-09 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Rob Weir wrote: On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 5:02 PM, Andrea Pescettipescetti@... wrote: This means that extension publishers can be contacted only through their @openoffice.org address; the first thing to do in the possible future clones of the Extensions and Templates site would thus be to disable

Re: Extensions and templates

2011-12-09 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 09/12/2011 Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 12/9/11 1:06 AM, Gavin McDonald wrote: I already have access and have been speaking with Lance over this over the past week. It is in hand, as they say. This is great. One to-do is definitely the upgrade to a newer Drupal version. I completely agree,

Re: Legacy openoffice.org email addresses in the legacy website

2011-12-09 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 09/12/2011 Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 3:16 AM, Gianluca Turconi public@... wrote: Please, double check the cancellation of the luctur alias because I still receive few spam messages from that address... The openoffice.org email address aliases are still active. We have not

Re: [DISCUSS]: Bugzilla default owners

2011-12-09 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 18/11/2011 Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Currently we have for all bug categories default owners. Most often this owners are not longer active on the project... For example i would volunteer for all issues related to api, sdk, and extensions with their sub categories for now (maybe more later) Any

Re: How to provide Linguistic Tools replacements after the removal of GPL'd modules

2011-12-09 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 04/12/2011 Andrea Pescetti wrote: After coordinating with Gianluca about some details, I've just opened the issue at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-117 As you can see at the link above, we won't get an answer before the end of 2011. This is reasonable, the issue is complex

Problems with OpenOffice.org mailing lists

2011-12-10 Thread Andrea Pescetti
It seems something is broken on the OpenOffice.org mailing lists. For example, the Italian user list archives and the global user list archives seem to stop at November 30th: http://openoffice.org/projects/it/lists/utenti/archive http://openoffice.org/projects/www/lists/users/archive and the

Re: Rationalizing two OpenOffice websites

2011-12-11 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 28/11/2011 Pedro Giffuni wrote: ps. Andrea, please do link the document in the new site :). Done some days ago in revision 1212124, but it doesn't show up on the live instance. And actually I can't see the previous commit by you either (revision 1203948), so I'm probably looking at the

[PROPOSAL] Setup of ooo-users-it and ooo-project-it mailing lists

2011-12-11 Thread Andrea Pescetti
moderators of the Italian OpenOffice.org lists are available to continue their tasks in the new infrastructure: - Davide Dozza - Andrea Pescetti - Paolo Pozzan If there are no objections to the above proposal within 72 hours, I will invoke Lazy Consensus and will create a JIRA issue. Regards

Re: Problems with OpenOffice.org mailing lists

2011-12-11 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 11/12/2011 Rob Weir wrote: On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Rob Weir... wrote: On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 6:06 PM, Andrea Pescetti ... wrote: If indeed delivery has stopped and no technical support is available, then the mailing list migration would escalate in priority... I tried a test

Re: [PROPOSAL] Setup of ooo-users-it and ooo-project-it mailing lists

2011-12-11 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Il 11/12/2011 Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Andrea Pescetti ... wrote: - A support list, named ooo-users-it at incubator.apache.org - A project list, named ooo-project-it at incubator.apache.org I wonder if ooo-general-it.i.a.o might be possible, instead of ooo-project

Re: Rationalizing two OpenOffice websites

2011-12-11 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Dave Fisher wrote: On Dec 11, 2011, at 6:03 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: but I don't see the change (Protezione dei Dati su Apache OpenOffice) at http://ooo-site.apache.org/it/contribuire/legale.html Should I use a different URL? Try http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/ The publish step has

Re: Where are we on the website migration, ooo-site - openoffice.org?

2011-12-11 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Dave Fisher wrote: (1) Finish wrapping with breadcrumbs, topnav and folder specific topnav. Also license/copyright. (2) Approval from Trademarks. (3) Redirection list for subdomains. Kay you could help with this. (4) Participate link. Then co-ordination with Infra to do these: (a) Publish build

Re: Extensions and templates

2011-12-11 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 09/12/2011 Dave Fisher wrote: Send an email to supp...@osuosl.org and start a conversation with Lance Albertson. He's willing to tell you all about it. The short answer is that Oracle was making changes when the plug was pulled on OOo. They left it broken. Done. I hope that I will be able

Re: Extensions and templates

2011-12-11 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 10/12/2011 Gavin McDonald wrote: From: Ross Gardler Can anyone state that we are legally able to take the Drupal code? ... I checked, got a very clear 'no problem, no issues, please take it' I assume this is enough for us to start looking at the code, even though I would appreciate a

Re: Extensions and templates

2011-12-11 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Gavin McDonald wrote: You should have read my reply to the above email first. Please do not bother Lance or OSUOSL with this again, I have access and I have it in hand. I had read your reply of course, but having it in hand does not imply you know all history, and I was interested in knowing

Re: Extensions and templates

2011-12-11 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Gavin McDonald wrote: You don't need a public comment from Oracle, the answer I got was from Oracle. Thanks for sharing this further bit of information. I confirm I volunteer for the two tasks I leave below. Regards, Andrea. So you can count me in, my initial focus being on the following

Re: Proposal: ooo-announce list

2011-12-12 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 11/12/2011 Rob Weir wrote: Tthe practice is to check in such fixes without making it evident to the observer that it is security-related. So don't expect SVN comments to give it away. Like this?

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