Re: [OpenAFS] automatic replication of ro volumes

2018-11-12 Thread Steve Simmons
Cron has no more knowledge about when the r/w volume is in a consistent
state than does AFS. Only the person(s) who make the changes to the r/w
volume know when it's ready to release.

Steve Simmons
ITS Unix Support/SCS Admins


On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 9:22 AM Andreas Ladanyi 
wrote:

> Hi Jeffrey,
> >> it is common an openafs admin has to sync an ro volume after something
> >> is added to rw volume. This is done by the vos release command. I think
> >> its the only way. Are there automatic sync functions in the vol / fs
> server.
> > The risk of automated volume releases is that the automated system does
> > not know when the volume contents are in a consistent and quiescent
> state.
>
> ok, but vos release "knows" them ?
>
> Is there something against a crontab script as root with vos lock and
> vos release to all volumes (with an ro site)  ?
>
> >
> > Sites often use remctl to grant end users the ability to release their
> > own volumes.
> >
> > Automated releases of RO volumes are a poor substitute for replicated RW
> > volumes.  RW replication is a feature which was never completed for
> OpenAFS.
> >
> > Jeffrey Altman
> >
> Andreas
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Re: [OpenAFS] automatic replication of ro volumes

2018-11-12 Thread Andreas Ladanyi

Hi Jeffrey,

it is common an openafs admin has to sync an ro volume after something
is added to rw volume. This is done by the vos release command. I think
its the only way. Are there automatic sync functions in the vol / fs server.

The risk of automated volume releases is that the automated system does
not know when the volume contents are in a consistent and quiescent state.


ok, but vos release "knows" them ?

Is there something against a crontab script as root with vos lock and 
vos release to all volumes (with an ro site)  ?




Sites often use remctl to grant end users the ability to release their
own volumes.

Automated releases of RO volumes are a poor substitute for replicated RW
volumes.  RW replication is a feature which was never completed for OpenAFS.

Jeffrey Altman


Andreas
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Re: [OpenAFS] automatic replication of ro volumes

2018-11-09 Thread Jeffrey Altman
On 11/9/2018 9:48 AM, Andreas Ladanyi wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> it is common an openafs admin has to sync an ro volume after something
> is added to rw volume. This is done by the vos release command. I think
> its the only way. Are there automatic sync functions in the vol / fs server.

The risk of automated volume releases is that the automated system does
not know when the volume contents are in a consistent and quiescent state.

Sites often use remctl to grant end users the ability to release their
own volumes.

Automated releases of RO volumes are a poor substitute for replicated RW
volumes.  RW replication is a feature which was never completed for OpenAFS.

Jeffrey Altman

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[OpenAFS] automatic replication of ro volumes

2018-11-09 Thread Andreas Ladanyi
Hi,

it is common an openafs admin has to sync an ro volume after something
is added to rw volume. This is done by the vos release command. I think
its the only way. Are there automatic sync functions in the vol / fs server.

Andreas

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