Re: [OODL: Licence and Partnership]

1999-11-12 Thread eric-engle
Alain: If this step is as simple as you suggest... eric: was refering to the common law trademark protection, which is of course dependant upon use and diffusion (and thus should be plastered on an internet site, later once decided upon) Eric: Associates would be able to come and go as they

Re: [OODL: Incorporation versus Partnership]

1999-11-12 Thread eric-engle
Rob Cozens: I also formed a for-profit corporation this year ... I am on the Board of Directors of a non-profit corporation, and might be able to get some insight from original board members or the foundation's account or attorney. Eric: That changes things slightly. _IF_ (and it is a _really

Re: [Re: [OODL: No business purposes]]

1999-11-12 Thread eric-engle
Rob Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A colleague of mine is an accountant that has recently incorporated his business. He knows all of the ins and outs of the process. And he would be willing to help me if I asked him. Alain, et al: I also formed a for-profit corporation this year. But, at

Re: [Re: [OODL: No business purposes]]

1999-11-12 Thread eric-engle
Major premise: I am not the lawyer of any individual or this group, as I am not licensed to practice law. I have to remind you of that because in this posting I am going to be discussing possible relations/liability issues between MC, Scott Raney, and the persons discussing establishing an

Re: OODL: Copyright Holder

1999-11-12 Thread Rob Cozens
Does everyone agree that the Copyright Holder to the software that we are in the process of naming will be our partnership? I can't speak for everyone; but it makes sense to me. Rob Cozens, CCW http://www.serendipitysoftware.com/who.html "And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are

Re: OODL: Forking for Business

1999-11-12 Thread DeRobertis
At 12:29 PM -0800 on 11/10/99, Alain Farmer wrote: Alain: We may want to put restrictions on the uses of OpenKard and its derivatives, though. For example, do we allow the hypothetical company that we will name MicroSloth to make just enough modifications to our source code (e.g. a fork) and

Re: OODL: Licence and Partnership

1999-11-12 Thread DeRobertis
At 7:14 PM -0800 on 11/11/99, Alain Farmer wrote: Eric: All persons (associates and partners) would have to agree to change the partnership agreement. Alain: Shouldn't this be Partners-Only ? I agree -- partners only. Otherwise some nitwit who just joined the list to spam it could claim we

Re: [OODL: Partnership and Contracts]

1999-11-12 Thread DeRobertis
At 2:11 AM -0700 on 11/12/99, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alain Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anthony: Would it be possible to write in that no one may form a contract on behalf of the partnership ... Eric: Yes, _but a third party who would be unaware of this could claim - justifiably - that he

OODL: MicroSloth Takeover of OpenKard

1999-11-12 Thread Alain Farmer
Alain: We may want to put restrictions on the uses of OpenKard and its derivatives, though. For example, do we allow the hypothetical company that we will name MicroSloth to make just enough modifications to our source code (e.g. a fork) and scoop our entire effort, and make a bundle with

OODL: Graphics - PNG and fonts

1999-11-12 Thread Alain Farmer
Someone: Alain, I wasn't aware that PNG was a vector format. Are you sure? Alain: No. Someone: Do you know where I can read the specs. Anthony: I think they are on the W3C's page somewhere. Alain: http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-png.html Someone: Since editing will take place in RAM anyway, the

OODL: GCC is GPL so why aren't we?

1999-11-12 Thread Alain Farmer
Michael Fair: Using the GCC underlying architecture will create licensing problems unless we reimplement the whole shebang. Alain: We must avoid licencing problems. What are they in this case? Anthony: The GPL 'virus'. That is, we'd have to use the GPL. Alain: To be considered GPL we

OODL: VM and bytecodes as models

1999-11-12 Thread Alain Farmer
Anthony: Or are you proposing an intermediary "OC byte code"? Actually, I might be switching to something like that -- the parser is giving me nightmares as it is now. And it would allow a lot of stuff like that. Micheal Fair: That is exactly what I am proposing and exactly why I am proposing

OODL: Mail archive

1999-11-12 Thread Alain Farmer
Anthony: I'd like to take a moment to applaud Alain's use of the message archive. Most of this was resolved before, and perhaps we should look at that. We exchanged many messages before what to do about licencing, authoring, etc. and it's all in the archive. Alain: I was merely cleaning up my

OODL: ATTENTION: BugTracker: Bug Tracking, Secure Polling, and AllAround Good Thing(tm)

1999-11-12 Thread DeRobertis
Bug Tracker's polling is done. So is it's bug reporting. The only thing not implemented is editing a volunteer profile -- that is, changing your password. Visit it at: http://cgibin.erols.com/derobert/cgi-bin/bug.pl Tell me any problems you come up with. Play around with it. Add a few

Re: OODL: Graphics - PNG and fonts

1999-11-12 Thread DeRobertis
At 3:32 PM -0800 on 11/12/99, Alain Farmer wrote: Anthony: GraphicsConvert's best PNG encoding can take a couple of minutes. It can be important. Alain: Is this a one-shot deal? Or does this encoding have to happen every time, in real-time? It has to happen every time a PNG is converted from

Re: OODL: GCC is GPL so why aren't we?

1999-11-12 Thread DeRobertis
At 3:52 PM -0800 on 11/12/99, Alain Farmer wrote: Michael Fair: Using the GCC underlying architecture will create licensing problems unless we reimplement the whole shebang. Alain: We must avoid licencing problems. What are they in this case? Anthony: The GPL 'virus'. That is, we'd have

Re: OODL: Is ownership a partnership issue?

1999-11-12 Thread DeRobertis
At 6:31 PM -0800 on 11/12/99, Alain Farmer wrote: Alain: That's ok. We are open source. Our wares are not for sale. They are made available to everyone, for free. The sale of OpenKard would indeed require unanimity because it goes against everything this partnership supposedly stands for. Umm?

Re: [OODL: No business purposes]

1999-11-12 Thread Scott Raney
On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sorry to have to be objective, but Scott is right. There is a (miniscule) potential liability, and given the 'deep pockets' mentality of lawyers (starting to understand why I don't want to practice?) he's right: a shark (read parasitical