Microsoft has some nice demo pages of OT features on the web:
_http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/Graphics/opentype/_
(http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/Graphics/opentype/)
Cheers,
Dave
I get this error message with MSIE on that page:
Hi! You are viewing this site in a browser that doesn't
What if the correct location of the glyph is only represented in the loca
table and not avalible to compute from other data in the font?
In this proposal, we've tried to strike a balance between complexity
and aggressiveness of compression. The biggest gains by far come from
better compression of the glyf table (and eliminating the loca table
altogether), so basically this proposal squeezes this table to the
maximum.
Why is
What you are proposing is slightly different; associating sample
images with individual fonts.
How would you prefer this to work? Either we create a separate
uploader for images, or OFLB can automatically display any image files
inside the zip.
Perhaps we could decide on a guideline
There is now a WOFF entry:
- - - 8 - - -
Question: 2.2 Can I make and use WOFF (Web Open Font Format) versions
of OFL fonts?
Answer: Yes, but you need to be careful. A change in font format
normally is considered modification, and Reserved Font Names (RFNs)
cannot be used. Because of the
Does anyone know of for example a list of Languages which have say: over 1
Million current speakers worldwide and no font avalibility?
How about letting people who upload fonts to openfontlibrary select more
than one license for their font?
IE: Let them pick GNU GPL The Boost C++ Libraries License FREEBSD
License The MIT License
SIL OFL The Apache 2.0 License Public Domain all at once for a font?
What sort of weird glyphs do you mean? I'm not sure I understand.
Thanks,
Nate
--
^^^
Mainly those in the text of books, from the 17th and 18th centuries.
I've noticed in this book that the c's and t's are one glyph(ct). That kind
of thing. (or have people already covered
What about a font which incorporates every weird glyph in any expired
public domain book (pre-1923).
Starting with the more scholarly tomesThe old standards.
For Example: Bouvier's Law Dictionary, 1914 Edition. Volume 3.
FontFreedom
On 30 June 2010 13:47, Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net wrote:
please use the CC licence
that was written for public-domain-like needs
_http://creativecommons.org/choose/zero/_
(http://creativecommons.org/choose/zero/)
^
CC-Zero is fairly new, and is
So yes I was wondering about PostScript?are any open source fonts being
distributed as PostScript? I see mainly TTF.
^^
The is a big set of open source fonts avalible for download in PostScript
(Adobe Type 1 Font format) called the Computer Modern Fonts (by Donald
Knuth). The
I'm confused.
You're pretty clear about what you think of Dave (though I have no idea
why you come to that conclusion) - but you're not that clear about the
domain:
It is currently forwarding to openfontlibrary.org, but that may change.
Also. Someone please fire Dave.
FontFreedom
In a message dated 5/31/2010 12:01:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
openfontlibrary-requ...@lists.freedesktop.org writes:
Hi Eric!
On 31 May 2010 07:44, fontfree...@aol.com wrote:
Tentatively, We have assigned Den Haag, ?Nederland, European Union as the
Fontbasis second city.
Please set
Tentatively, We have assigned Den Haag, Nederland, European Union as the
Fontbasis second city.
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Suite 3600
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I am designating FRESNO, CA as our 1st branch office.
Eric Way
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Thanks, FontFreedom
Fac Has anyone been able to use this new font? (Chess by Zeimusu)
Fac A 4KB .otf font? Hmm...
14kb, not 4.
Its a chess font. So the glyphs are rook, knight, bishop, king, queen,
pawn - in white and in black. That is 12 glyphs. Hence, a small font.
The 14kb file is a new upload, version
So, what was the name of that server side svg renderer written in C which
you were mentioning today?
C and C++ are my favorite tools to develop websites with, btw...
PHP certainly has it's place, but apparently mere mortals are able to
code in PHP as well.
--Eric Way
vector design software, social networking, tech law, and more)
In person, Jon is MUCH more down to earth than I had expected.
We dined on canned peaches and a Charlston Chew.
Eric Way (FontFreedom)
want to discuss? Pointing openfontlibrary.com to .org? :)
Regards, Dave
Dave! Ooops! I just did that...Openfontlibrary.com is now pointed to
openfontlibrary.org.
Dang, maybe it was just an accident...won't really know till...I...make up
my mind...
Eric Way
fontfreedom at aol .com AIM
BTW...Openfontlibrary.com had it's own dedicated server hosted at 100tb.com
If anyone has any ideas for that now basically empty server, shoot me an
email. If you want to know what i'm into, just read my prior emails on
openfontlibrary archives.
Eric Way
FF
I would like to propose an in person meeting to discuss Openfontlibrary in
San Francisco, CA in about a month. I have some ideas as to exactly where
(Market Street Locations) I would like to have the meeting.
So, May 13th, SF?
FF
License issues need to be priority one for OFLB.
OpenID = Let the spam roll in like crazy.
I've used it on my sites b4...I do drupal dev, and that's just it...
I think that many authors of software libraries - programmers -
understand how they can make more money with free software than with
proprietary software, which is why so much free software library code
exists. This is less true of applications programmers, and even less
true of type
An object lesson in being sure that fonts are used within the terms of
their license. The design agency for Hadopi, the French agency overseeing
the controversial 'three strikes' law that removes Internet access from
households after three illegal download warnings, itself used a copy of an
Personally, I agree on not hosting it with a goofy licen(s|c)e,
whether it is plagiarized or not. People always have the option of
distributing elsewhere.
If Paratype will provide it to us under OFL, I think thats an okay
compromise; we have tried to advise them of the problems with their
Heh, I'd be then what we here in matushka Rossiya call svadebny
general (a kind of traditional military high rank guy at a marriage
to make the marriage ceremony look more solid).
Generally I don't mind as long as you don't make me wear uniform or a
stupid serious face :) Or drink alcohol :)
for openfontlibrary can at least find the beta site while the main
site is down.
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are doing with the openfontlibrary.net and openfontlibrary.info domains,
which are both just redirecting to openfontlibrary.org, which is bangoed at
the moment. Those two domains point to osuosl and could be used as
soon is an OFL or TTF version of the Public Domain Hershey fonts.
Ciao,
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Make sure any fonts are in MIT/X11 license, not Mit License or X11
License, as there are fonts which are for example X11 license but not MIT/X11,
or MIT License but not X11 License.
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That's the hot hotness. But doesn't that only work for linking to
those fonts? Would it work to generate EOTs for download as well?
That should be pretty easy.
Here's Tuffy Bold as an eot:
_http://www.openfontlibrary.com/eote/_
(http://www.openfontlibrary.com/eote/)
(only works in
No, the copyright treaties the United States has entered into specify
that something copyrighted in a foreign country is not subject to
copyright in the U.S. *unless* it would have been subject to copyright
if it were made in the U.S. Typefaces are not subject to copyright in
the U.S., no
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 18:34 -0400, Joshua A.C. Newman wrote:
Well, I need something both low-contrast and modern for this project.
I might even start with DIN or Futura. Not sure yet. In any event, I'm
pretty sure I don't have the subtlety of eye to deal with Bodoni.
Watch out that
I'm not impressed but then I'm about the only person on this list who
never believed in @font-face world-saving powers in the first place.
What would you have instead? :-)
Browser people:
1. promoting a good complement of libre fonts so more are installed by
default
Unless you got
Fac Google Chrome = It uses a Sans font, and the font/shadow thing
Fac works.
But does it use the graublau font?
Nah, just a default sans font. (Arial)
Chrome's defaults are Arial for sans, Times New Roman for Serif Courier
New for fixed width.
I'm running Google Chrome v2.0.172.31,
Ie has supported it for 10 years, and a gpl eot converter is in the
works. I
expect ff and opera to ship within 6 months.
@font face does not work with IE...What do you mean supported it? Is
there a 3rd party downloadable plugin somewhere so it will work? @font face
does not work with MSIE
In a message dated 6/5/2009 1:37:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
openfontlibrary-requ...@lists.freedesktop.org writes:
From: Dave Crossland d...@lab6.com
Subject: Re: [OpenFontLibrary] CDN for cufon font JS?
To: Open Font Library openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org
Message-ID:
For commercial foundries the licensing boils down to pay me and thus
licensing compliance is de facto checked at the credit card stage.
They're not a good model for fonts with non-monetary licensing
clauses.
Actually, it's often worse than just pay me. Even once you've paid, would
that
I like it. I think we have a lot to gain by CRAZY PIERRE'S BARGAIN
BASEMENT
FREE FONT MADNESS kinda parody, pulling in traffic in search of freeware
fonts and converting them to yearn for libre fonts instead :)
Photos of your handlebar moustaches and national flag trousers welcome :D
This
From: Dave Crossland:
The problem is, I don't want to be a pariah in the type community anymore
than I have to be.
Regards, Dave
Beyond pariah status, as you are in the U.K., involvment in such a project
could subject you to civil or criminal liabilities.
On 14 May 2009, 12:28 AM, Khaled
_http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/search/display.html?terms=typefaceurl=/u
scode/html/uscode17/usc_sec_17_0102000-notes.html_
(http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/search/display.html?terms=typefaceurl=/uscode/html/uscode
17/usc_sec_17_0102000-notes.html)
The Committee has
He and I have been discussing this for at least 2 years, and it seems
we are unlikely to resolve this difference. We both agree that libre
solves both our problems, and although it introduces problems of its
own - it is not a native English word, and so the meaning must be
explained to most
Indeed, for legitimate revivals of old
printed typefaces that are in public domain
Remember, ALL printed typefaces are in the Public Domain, irregardless
of
the copyright status of the fonts they were created from. (In the United
States. Other countries laws differ considerably.)
So
Le Mer 13 mai 2009 00:19, Dave Crossland a ?crit :
Another alternative is to refer to our fonts as FLOSS fonts instead
of libre fonts.
I'd rather not use FLOSS. It's a software-oriented acronym and whether
fonts are software or not is another can of worms best avoided.
One of the terms was the Fonts/Typefaces distinction.
Nicolas felt that the current v2 site uses the term typefaces too
much (I hope you can explain here why) and I feel that since people
who make new fonts/typefaces talk about themselves as typeface
designers and talk about typefaces, we
Indeed, for legitimate revivals of old
printed typefaces that are in public domain
Remember, ALL printed typefaces are in the Public Domain, irregardless of
the copyright status of the fonts they were created from. (In the United
States. Other countries laws differ considerably.)
FF
Well I was speaking about cultural production in a broader sense,
not necessarily related to free culture.
Because IMHO free culture is like an avant-garde niece to more
conventional cultural production;
in the sense of experimenting with new models etc.
To me the interesting point is when a
I've submitted it to
http://browsershots.org/http://openfontlibrary.fontly.org/ and will
look in a day or so when the shots are ready :)
What a neat site: Previews websites in many different browsers, I've
bookmarked browsershots.org.
Ok, here's the one I'd be most concerned with making
I was looking at the url mentioned for for previews:
_http://openfontlibrary.fontly.org/files/admin/6_
(http://openfontlibrary.fontly.org/files/admin/6)
Mr. Traeger's preview works nicely, but I was wondering:
Does the @font face preview on this page work with Firefox?
I'm using the newest:
Let's put our energy into getting font designers to support the
project, and not into trying to find a half-dozen fonts that were
badly released 10 or 20 years ago and might or might not be
protected by copyright. The goal is to create a community of people
designing and releasing type, not
Also if someone has current contacts for past contributors, it would
be nice to get the font exception added to the license.
--
Nicolas Mailhot
I really want to know if font / embedding exceptions are really needed. A
font is very distinct from the document it's embedded into, it would
Here's a font similar to ecofont:
Budmo Jiggler
_http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/larabie/budmo/jiggler/_
(http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/larabie/budmo/jiggler/)
It has holes in it too.
Budmo Jiggler is a freeware font, it's license does not allow much openness
You may not modify, adapt,
In a message dated 12/18/2008 12:00:44 PM Pacific Standard Time,
openfontlibrary-requ...@lists.freedesktop.org writes:
From: Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org
Subject: Re: [OpenFontLibrary] License your fonts under MIT / X11!!
To: Open Font Library openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org
Message-ID:
I do think I want to push for fonts licensed under the MIT / X11 license, on
one of these new sites people are
building, we need some pages urging people to release new fonts under that
particular license. I think this could be a core/reccomended open source
license for fonts.
FF
2008/11/30 Fontfreedom
_http://openfontlibrary.fontly.org/patrons_
(http://openfontlibrary.fontly.org/patrons)
At the top, under Remixes, the word typefaces is written on top of the
words branch and merge.
(Not super easy to read...)
Can you post a screenshot?
here:
_http
In a message dated 11/24/2008 12:00:56 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi!
The new site is finally coming together. The wiki is now mostly themed.
The Patrons page is now finalised:
http://openfontlibrary.fontly.org/patrons
Comments, please! :-)
Cheers,
Dave
The stats for openfontlibrary.org seem not to work in MSIE 7:
https://awstats.osuosl.org/list/openfontlibrary.org
Click on this month, I get:
https://awstats.osuosl.org/reports/openfontlibrary.org/2008/11/awstats.openfon
tlibrary.org.xml
Which just shows the non-rendered html code. Maybe
DO WHAT THE FUCK YOU WANT TO PUBLIC LICENSE
Version 2, December 2004
Copyright (C) 2004 Your Name
Your, Address, Some, Place, Nice.
Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim or modified
copies of this license document, and changing it is allowed as
I'm planning on encouraging people to release their fonts with the MIT/X11
license for openfontlibrary.com
Or dedicated to the public domain if they prefer.
Only those two.
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What about Helvetica?
It seems irrelevant to me since URW Nimbus Sans is a free software
implementation of that typeface.
Hiss...GPL bad. The URW fonts are GPL right? The Adobe Helvetica License
appears to give more freedom than the GPL. In some ways! Also...The
Helvetica License is a
I think requiring the font exception would be ideal - ie, removing the
2nd category above.
FWIW, I don't agree. I liked your earlier conception much better: if
it's under a free software license, it can be in OFLB. For one thing,
it makes for a much simpler decision process than
Le lundi 10 novembre 2008 ? 16:33 +, Dave Crossland a ?crit :
2008/11/10 James Weiner [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Are there no font formats that can carry easily accessible meta data
like
ID3 does for mp3s etc?
TrueType and OpenType do this easily enough; the problem is getting
users
I know a while ago Adobe Utopia was discussed as something which could be
modified and used as an open font...What about Helvetica?
Adobe Helvetica
Copyright 1984-1989, 1994 Adobe Systems Incorporated. Copyright 1988, 1994
Digital Equipment Corporation.
Adobe is a trademark of Adobe Systems
In a message dated 11/8/2008 2:18:10 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL
PROTECTED]
writes:
2008/11/7 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
You guys really should see the Font Myths website:
What is the URL?
The url is:
_http://www.ssifonts.com/Myths.htm_ (http://www.ssifonts.com/Myths.htm)
Also,
to blame it on the
creators of the font editing software they were using. I'm wondering,
does Fontfreedom intend to follow their lead on his new site?
Ok! Their information is suspect. I had never heard of this case against
them they may have made some of this stuff up to try to defend
Why?
Most developed countries including the US offer copyright protection to
foreign works under under the Berne Convention since 1989 and the
Universal Copyright Convention (UCC) since 1955.
The works of an author who is a national or resident of a country that
is a member of these
I don't see any reason typefaces first released in the UK or Europe
would enjoy any copyright protection in the U.S. All typefaces (not
fonts) are automatically and immediately public domain in the U.S.
Because it seems that under international copyright conventions
countries have agreed
I also wonder whether free software licenses (designed for software) are
appropriate for fonts where a font is first published in a country where
the design is protected?
^
If you hope to have international recognition of your copyright, the font
MUST be considered
2008/11/6 Christopher Fynn [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I also wonder whether free software licenses (designed for software) are
appropriate for fonts where a font is first published in a country where
the design is protected?
That is an excellent point!
I think the language in the GPL and Apache
Also, developing a high-quality typeface can be a lot of work;
Microsoft spent over a million US dollars on Arial, I've heard.
It's my understanding very few fonts are patented. I suppose if you spend $1
Million on developing a font, you can afford the average $10,000 (but can be
much
In a message dated 11/3/2008 12:33:38 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi, FontFreedom,
... but I really want to have a non-copyleft
openfontlibrary.
Why?
If we are not using copyleft licenses, what are you proposing to use in
place?
Copy - Center licenses
In a message dated 11/4/2008 4:07:09 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL
PROTECTED]
writes:
However I don't want to see any version of that font being sold for
profit or falling under a commercial or proprietary license - or someone
making minor modifications and copyrighting them. That would
In a message dated 11/2/2008 10:26:10 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Sun, 2008-11-02 at 01:17 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The single priority I have for openfontlibrary is: Creating a new
openfontlibrary without any copyleft fonts. (and banning any new ones
The single priority I have for openfontlibrary is:
Creating a new openfontlibrary without any copyleft fonts. (and banning any
new ones from appearing)
Initially, Openfontlibrary was created as a place for fonts dedicated to the
Public Domain. Things dedicated to the public domain are not
Good you got them...why do you have them in inframe?
The best would be for you to update the DNS on them to be the same
ame Server:NS1.AUTH.OSUOSL.ORG
Name Server:NS2.AUTH.OSUOSL.ORG
Then, we can file a ticket to OSUOSL.org to make them work properly. Can
you do that on those two domains.
Some domain speculators have been sending me emails, trying to sell me
openfontlibrary.com, so...
I've just bought the .com version of the openfontlibrary domain name,
pointing it to openfontlibrary.org.
(I own the .net, that's why they've been offering it to me.)
FF
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I've signed up for a wiki account before, it's said I have an account, but
it's never worked, I've never been able to edit the openfontlibrary wiki.
(Maybe I should ask those spammers how they manage to get their junk on there.)
FF
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