anymore. At least
that's how I understand the legalities.
IMHO the FAQ should make it crystal-clear that all OFL provisions apply to any
part of the font even if it's embedded somewhere else. What they don't apply to
is the document the font part is embedded in.
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Le Ven 7 juin 2013 20:23, Nicolas Mailhot a écrit :
Le Ven 7 juin 2013 15:23, Vernon Adams a écrit :
This i what i pointed at earlier. The OFL defines a font's usage as
either
'embedding' or 'distribution'.
This is irrelevant. As noted during the GPLv3 review process, both
'derivative
Le Ven 7 juin 2013 20:16, Nicolas Mailhot a écrit :
The OFL explicitely states that, when bundled with a software (which in
practical terms means the font will be embedded in the software
installer), OFL provisions still apply to the fonts (including keeping
legal notices)
And now
Le Jeu 29 mars 2012 15:28, Peter Baker a écrit :
The thinking is presumably that it's quicker to recreate the (functionality
of the) loca table on the user's end than to transmit it from a web server.
How are you going to do that ?
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supported, the compression ratio is ~50% in
my tests and this can be significant for many fonts.
Compared to raw files or compared to HTTP with mod_deflate or similar ?
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for re-distributors. A dynamic preview is
useless in web review articles, for example (I've seen the static preview
dejavu publishes on many web sites, for example)
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, I'd say the server has bigger
bandwidth problems than serving raw TTF files)
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is being smart here. If you want to
protect your unfinished fonts publish them in a non-mainstream archive
format such as tar.bz2 or tar.xz that should be sufficient to stop skimmers.
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as PostScript? I see mainly TTF.
Sure there are, see the CFF lines here (they mean OpenType CFF)
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/fonts/2009-November/001049.html
It's already a large proportion of floss fonts, and it is growing.
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is there and is capable in theory to fill all possible i18n
needs.
This solution is not cross platform but can enable any app that uses
fonts, and gives users the tools to do anything in any language, and not
just read text others wrote in their browser.
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support in one of the existing and widely-used open/libre
fonts, is likely to meet the funding requirements.
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distro could use it for their software
interface?
I really hope Canonical will not engage in creative licence writing there.
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those elements before
packaging.
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Le jeudi 10 décembre 2009 à 16:52 +, Ben Weiner a écrit :
Hi,
On 9 Dec 2009, at 18:12, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
Le mercredi 09 décembre 2009 à 17:28 +, Ben Weiner a écrit :
Ah! OK.
Perhaps: The software expression of typeface designs
Thus limiting OFLB to:
- being
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, it will be a net loss.
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download it even if another (possibly more recent and better) version was
already installed locally. The writer obviously considered the presence of
this font unlikely, which is true for Apple and Microsoft systems, but
false for Linux systems.
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such wording in the TUG grant. Care to
point it to me?
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/cave9
Vollkorn
http://www.grafikfritze.de/?p=43
Yanone Kaffeesatz
http://www.yanone.de/typedesign/kaffeesatz/
Yanone Tagesschrift
http://www.yanone.de/typedesign/tagesschrift/
That's all we have in Fedora right now
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or
OpenType packaging?
Heuristica is a transformation to OpenType (CFF TT)
ftp://ftp.dvo.ru/pub/Font/heuristica/
It's been relicensed to the OFL, which seemed compatible with the TUG
grant when we looked at it.
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Hi, Nicolas (Mailhot),
Vollkorn
http://www.grafikfritze.de/?p=43
This appears to be a very nice font. The web page says its under a CC
license -- but which one?
The license is linked on the font homepage
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/de/
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On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:28:28AM -0400, Ed Trager wrote:
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Nicolas
Do the Adobe-licensed-to-TeX Utopia fonts exist in a TrueType or
OpenType packaging? Fontaine's current code looks only at the SFNT
structures in TrueType/OpenType fonts. Would anyone
Hi, Nicolas et al.,
Do the Adobe-licensed-to-TeX Utopia fonts exist in a TrueType or
OpenType packaging?
Heuristica is a transformation to OpenType (CFF TT)
ftp://ftp.dvo.ru/pub/Font/heuristica/
It's been relicensed to the OFL, which seemed compatible with the TUG
grant when we
The Yanone fonts have a similar problem: web page says CC (Generic
CC) but the font header only says
Copyright (c) Yanone, 2005. All rights reserved.
... so the font file itself fails to identify a license as far as I can
see.
It's linked on the homepage and included in the zip :p
I'd
not less (guess what packages fail them today)
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work is great
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Le Mer 17 juin 2009 21:30, Nicolas Mailhot a écrit :
The cynical part of me says:
4. If people complain arial is not available on their system, they'll
link an arial ttf file since their understanding is it's free
Well I was wrong, first hit is not arial, it's courrier new
http
ttf inconditionally)
I'm not impressed but then I'm about the only person on this list who
never believed in @font-face world-saving powers in the first place.
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with non-monetary licensing
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not.
However in practice this part is not checked nor is there any effort to
write licenses end-users can understand. Which is why dafont and friends
can get by with abysmal licensing documentation without anyone in the
closed fonts world complaining.
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Le Mer 13 mai 2009 00:19, Dave Crossland a écrit :
Another alternative is to refer to our fonts as FLOSS fonts instead
of libre fonts.
I'd rather not use FLOSS. It's a software-oriented acronym and whether
fonts are software or not is another can of worms best avoided.
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with an OFL version everyone agreed was solid (even if the
disagreement is not tastefully expressed).
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Le Mar 7 avril 2009 10:09, Dave Crossland a écrit :
2009/4/7 Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net:
They would have been better advised to lay minimal conditions in
simple words and not let their lawyers pile up unrelated fell-good
material in the licensing.
Given I basically like
. That's the road to DRM hell.
A licensing text should not assume what is technically possible (or
not), and tools should not restrict themselves because of common
licensing requirements (as long as there is a legal use).
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the main files in the root
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a svgz output
Thank you very much for posting on your advancement. It's not really
what we need Fedora-side now, but some bits look close, and I hope
someone will contribute the needed changes so they can be used in
non-OFLB context too.
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Le Ven 6 février 2009 16:08, Dave Crossland a écrit :
Hi,
New version of UFO is being drafted:
http://unifiedfontobject.org/
A unified format would be mighty nice.
Does it have buy-in by Fontforge and xgridfit authors?
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interested in free/open fonts (font authors, distributions,
oflb, etc)
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interesting glyphs to
showcase, pangrams? and an svgz output small enough to be integrated
everywhere)
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, not a SVG font or
anything that duplicated the whole font, to avoid font
embedding/derivative work licensing clauses (GPL... :()
(sure a preview is a derivative work but I doubt a *limited* derivative
work will ever be a legal problem)
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in other
distributions like Debian.
The parts Canonical does not intend to release probably just depend on
proprietary components (ie they took the easy short road as usual
without thinking)
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now, and will be
most of today :-)
Fonts stuff should better be discussed on ##fonts were the other
free/open font groups are
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Le Lun 19 janvier 2009 11:49, Robert Martinez a écrit :
Frankly I think I did not get everything right you said: You want to
use
a special character?
(but what users of a script do you mean?)
Anything not in base latin/ASCII will do IMHO
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file is obviously an integrated work, when
a simple zip is just aggregation.
Legal definitions are not technical definitions, and the same
technical setup can fall under different legal categories depending on
how humans use it. The legal system only cares about human
interactions.
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is that lack of the
exception produces legal incertitude, and good FLOSS citizens do *not*
want to expose their users to legal incertitude, so they add the
exception and the problem is solved.
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. That would be useful to add in the fontlog.
Also if someone has current contacts for past contributors, it would
be nice to get the font exception added to the license.
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on their own from scratch?
The original poster does not represent anyone but himself, has already
shown an serious distaste for the licenses most free projects use, and
serious free software projects are serious about copyright, thank you
very much.
Please do not generalise
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Le samedi 06 décembre 2008 à 17:54 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot a écrit :
Hi all,
This is a bit impromptu, but as part of the Fedora classroom program,
I'll animate a session on fonts packaging tomorrow the 7th of December
at 12:15 UTC in the #fedora-classroom irc.freenode.net IRC channel.
http
Le samedi 06 décembre 2008 à 17:54 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot a écrit :
Hi all,
This is a bit impromptu, but as part of the Fedora classroom program,
I'll animate a session on fonts packaging tomorrow the 7th of December
at 12:15 UTC in the #fedora-classroom irc.freenode.net IRC channel.
http
you get nothing. That's real-world
human interactions for you, school is about the only place where you're
guaranteed answers in time.
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by the popular KDE desktop / windowing environment found in
many Linux distributions.
However, the distributions I know do not install QT fonts - they use
their own font sources
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And requires all the annoying renaming and fontlog stuff
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Le lundi 10 novembre 2008 à 14:45 +, Ben Weiner a écrit :
Hi,
Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
Le lundi 10 novembre 2008 à 13:05 +, Ben Weiner a écrit :
- OFL: feels like a regular font, but doesn't have embedding
restrictions (you can send it to a printer or distribute it as part
Le lundi 10 novembre 2008 à 17:31 +, Dave Crossland a écrit :
2008/11/10 Nicolas Mailhot [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
TrueType and OpenType do this easily enough; the problem is getting
users to put the metadata there.
And keep it up to date / accurate
Even when there is info in font
fail miserably because they include too
much font-designer-oriented complexity that introduces new failure
point.
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(for example
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal_considerations_for_fonts )
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Le lundi 14 juillet 2008 à 15:26 -0700, George Williams a écrit :
On Sun, 2008-07-13 at 10:17, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
Please publish fonts accompagned by detached license files.
Ok, I have changed fontforge's upload so that it will upload a detached
License.txt file (and a FontLog.txt file
as-is.
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not PD/OFL.
Yes, but IMHO that's bypassing cc-Host's description features and
therefore not ideal and confusing.
The note maybe but zipping font files with a detached .TXT file is good
practice and should be promoted.
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Le vendredi 04 juillet 2008 à 12:10 -0700, George Williams a écrit :
On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 03:33, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
The note maybe but zipping font files with a detached .TXT file is good
practice and should be promoted.
Not if you want the font files to be available for @font-face
Le Sam 24 mai 2008 10:11, Pierre Marchand a écrit :
Vous (Nicolas Mailhot) avez écrit :
I don’t know for the etc. but for README INSTALL files I think
they are not needed. Since you can embed informations about the
font
in the font file itself
And you are wrong.
C’est dit avec tant
that as of packaging there is still the problem of:
1. helping OFLB publish fonts in an easy-to-package state
2. helping OFLB members join existing packaging teams so they can get
their font in-distro quickly if they wish to
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Le lundi 12 mai 2008 à 13:52 +1100, Andrey V. Panov a écrit :
On 8 мая 2008, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
fedora fonts list
I am not subscribed to this list. I neither take part in Fedora development
nor
use it at all.
So what? It's a mailman list. It won't eat you. I neither take part
there, not here, and I can't just ferry messages
back and forth manually for long.
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Other Edrip-related Fedora files are available there:
http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewcvs/devel/edrip-fonts/
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=5980
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Le Ven 14 mars 2008 03:33, Andrey V. Panov a écrit :
On 13 марта 2008, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
Le mardi 11 mars 2008 à 14:38 +1000, Andrey V. Panov a écrit :
License of the font has been changed to OFL 1.1. The whole font
excepting
two alternative forms is instructed now. It is available
Teams license,
shouldn't
Copyright (c) 1994-2000 The TopTeam Co, (http://linux.web.bg/fonts.html|
Alexander Shopov [EMAIL PROTECTED]) with Reserved Font Name Teams
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