Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Site terminology: Free/Open/Libre

2009-05-13 Thread Rob Myers
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:19 PM, Dave Crossland d...@lab6.com wrote:

 I feel strongly that open is also confusing because it doesn't bring
 to mind the primary goal, freedom, and this has concrete disadvantages
 like not publishing source files.

Open is open to abuse, yes.

 He and I have been discussing this for at least 2 years, and it seems
 we are unlikely to resolve this difference. We both agree that libre
 solves both our problems, and although it introduces problems of its
 own - it is not a native English word, and so the meaning must be
 explained to most people - we are happy to focus on that term as a
 compromise.

Libre is good. Or you could say free and open.

 Another alternative is to refer to our fonts as FLOSS fonts instead
 of libre fonts.

FLOSS is the perfect compromise in that nobody likes it. ;-)

- Rob.


Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Font embedding exceptions

2008-12-31 Thread Rob Myers
On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Dave Crossland d...@lab6.com wrote:
 2008/12/30 Jon Stanley jonstan...@gmail.com:
 On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 3:47 PM,  fontfree...@aol.com wrote:

 The output from running a covered work is covered by this License only if
 the output, given its
 content, constitutes a covered work.

 Since you are embedding a font, which is itself a covered work,
 unmodified into the document, an exception is required. The end.

 +1

A theoretical dissenting view:

The document is not software and is not a derivative of the font.
Including the font with the document, which can be used without it, is
mere aggregation.

- Rob.


Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Public Domain Fonts due to lack of copyright notice

2008-12-25 Thread Rob Myers
Christopher Fynn wrote:

 Even if it were legally permissible in the US to distribute pre-1989
 fonts  without a copyright notice or registered copyright - do you
 believe it would be ethical do this without the designer / font creators
 agreement? 

Yes, because this is how copyright works.

 Because something may be allowed under the law of a
 particular jurisdiction that does not make it morally and ethically OK.

Such as restricting people through use of copyright, for example.

 People who are most vocal about being able to distribute fonts freely
 most always seem to be talking about the work of others. 

There are fewer font designers than font users, so this is hardly
surprising.

 Why is it I
 don't hear this sort of suggestion from people who have designed serious
 original fonts on their own from scratch?

Would you agree that it is a good idea if they did?

- Rob.



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Re: [Openfontlibrary] MIT/X11 License for fonts

2008-11-05 Thread Rob Myers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 ... Assuming Person A is using the MIT/X11 License for  
 their font:
  
 Person A created a font called zfff. Uploads it to the  OpenFontLibrary.
 Person B downloads it, modifies it 40%, and sells it as a commercial font,  
 Super zfff.
 Person C buys the font Super zfff. Person C may not modify it.
 Person A buys the font Super zfff. Person A may not modify it, despite  
 having been the one who created the font Super zfff is based on.

For me, this illustrates a problem. ;-)

- Rob.



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Re: [Openfontlibrary] design service

2008-11-05 Thread Rob Myers
Can we have a free version of Beowolf sans? ;-)

- Rob.



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Re: [Openfontlibrary] design service

2008-11-05 Thread Rob Myers
Well perhaps a comic sans RandomFont, then. ;-)

But, yes, rather than reverse-engineering a classic, is there something
new but well-defined that would make a good project?

- Rob.

Erik van Blokland wrote:
 Yeah, heaven forbid you would make something new.
 
 Erik
 
 
 On 5 nov 2008, at 21:22, Rob Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Can we have a free version of Beowolf sans? ;-)

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Re: [Openfontlibrary] openfontlibrary.com

2008-11-03 Thread Rob Myers
Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 8:35 PM, Dave Crossland wrote:
 http://www.openfontlibrary.com/
 
 *shrugs shoulders*
 
 Well, the best of luck to them.

Indeed. May the best project win. Or peaceful coexistence ensue.

Is the name a problem, project identity-wise?

- Rob.



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