Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Setting up self hosting

2013-11-06 Thread nooalf
:58 pm Subject: Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Setting up self hosting On 5 Nov 2013, at 10:52, noo...@aol.com wrote: HAHAHA! Who iz Bruno Maag? He runs a well known type design agency. He’s a loud critic of Free fonts. But don’t get the wrong idea, i like him and admire the work he his agency does

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Setting up self hosting

2013-11-05 Thread vernon adams
On 5 Nov 2013, at 10:52, noo...@aol.com wrote: HAHAHA! Who iz Bruno Maag? He runs a well known type design agency. He’s a loud critic of Free fonts. But don’t get the wrong idea, i like him and admire the work he his agency does. Just thought it would make a good specimen for JRUG_PUNK.

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Setting up self hosting

2013-11-05 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 11:09 PM, vernon adams wrote: HAHAHA! Who iz Bruno Maag? He runs a well known type design agency. He’s a loud critic of Free fonts. Just to feed my curiosity... How does one design free fonts and then criticize free fonts? Any URLs to share? Alexandre

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Setting up self hosting

2013-11-05 Thread Vernon Adams
The criticism is usually based on around 2 things; ‘quality' and ‘money’. The argument allways goes along the lines of; ‘all these free fonts are lowering type design standards’, and, ‘all these free fonts are reducing the traditional economic value of fonts’. I’m sure there’s some videos or 2

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Setting up self hosting

2013-11-02 Thread nooalf
Thanks! The fonts are free for use by everybody, including commercial use. -Original Message- From: vernon adams v...@newtypography.co.uk To: Open Font Library openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org Sent: Sat, Nov 2, 2013 6:59 pm Subject: Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Setting up self hosting

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Setting up self hosting

2013-11-01 Thread nooalf
- From: Dave Crossland d...@lab6.com To: Open Font Library openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org Sent: Fri, Nov 1, 2013 12:32 pm Subject: Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Setting up self hosting On 30 October 2013 17:35, noo...@aol.com wrote: I coudnt get the webfont thing to work, so just went with gif

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Setting up self hosting

2013-11-01 Thread Dave Crossland
On 1 November 2013 18:24, noo...@aol.com wrote: Turnz out pretty good doing it this way Sick

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Setting up self hosting

2013-11-01 Thread Vernon Adams
My specimen references some famous Gilbert George art pieces. It’s good to see people making fonts like this. Type should be made from these sort of marks too. I see them as liberational, and equally as beautiful as the marks on the Trajan column. Seriously. -v On 1 Nov 2013, at 18:28, Dave

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Setting up self hosting

2013-10-30 Thread nooalf
Message- From: Garrick van Buren garr...@kernest.com To: Open Font Library openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org Sent: Tue, Oct 29, 2013 7:50 pm Subject: Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Setting up self hosting Quinn - what do you mean by so I don't have to use @font-face? Vernon - thanks for calling

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Setting up self hosting

2013-10-30 Thread Dave Crossland
On 30 October 2013 17:35, noo...@aol.com wrote: I coudnt get the webfont thing to work, so just went with gif and jpg piks uv the text. Kind uv a hassle, but it ensurez that everybody will see it correctly. If youre worried that the pik text iz not searchable, just put the text in a mouse

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Setting up self hosting

2013-10-29 Thread Garrick van Buren
Quinn - what do you mean by so I don't have to use @font-face? Vernon - thanks for calling out the Fontue project. I stopped developing it for 2 reasons: - browser support stabilized to the point where TFF EOT provide sufficient coverage - my opinion that @font-face works

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Setting up self hosting

2013-10-29 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Quinn! On 29 October 2013 13:05, Quinn Keaveney qke...@gmail.com wrote: By saying I don't want to use @ff I just mean that I want to use an @ff that obfuscates the link/src file so you can not just click and download the woff. This is impossible. You may find

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Setting up self hosting

2013-10-29 Thread vernon adams
I’m not sure Quinn is after what you think he is :) Quinn… do you mean you want to serve fonts like the example i am serving from http://newtypography.net/testing/ ? A.k.a you want your fonts to be served to remote web pages by simply adding a 'link href’ line to the head of the source html

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Setting up self hosting

2013-10-29 Thread Garrick van Buren
Something to note: From a performance perspective, most lag is caused by setting up the HTTP connection. Essentially, anything other than Apache/Nginx/etc serving a static file (just like js/jpg/png/etc) on the same files system as the webpage itself will degrade delivery performance. Yes,

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Setting up self hosting

2013-10-29 Thread Dave Crossland
On 29 October 2013 14:11, Garrick van Buren garr...@kernest.com wrote: Yes, cache headers can eliminate this issue for subsequent loads - assuming your site is someplace people will visit repeatedly within the cache lifetime. This is why Google Fonts is better than self hosting. Its likely

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Setting up self hosting

2013-10-29 Thread vernon adams
I think we could assume that someone self hosting a handfull of fonts isn’t likely to be pushing to billions of font calls, per font, every week. Though it would be interesting to run an experiment and see what figures are possible :) On 29 Oct 2013, at 11:19, Dave Crossland d...@lab6.com

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Setting up self hosting

2013-10-29 Thread Garrick van Buren
Vernon, I think we're already there. Modern web servers do a great job of serving font files just as they do a great job of serving image files, javascript files, html files, and css files. From my perspective, treating one kind of web-delivered asset differently than others introduces an

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Setting up self hosting

2013-10-29 Thread vernon adams
Sure, i think we are nearly already there. When i say ‘webfont server’ i just mean anything (e.g. just a bit of php) that allows a user in one part of the word to create a webpage that pulls a font from another part of the world, without the need for too much css coding. I don’t see any reason

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Setting up self hosting

2013-10-29 Thread Dave Crossland
On 29 October 2013 17:58, Garrick van Buren garr...@kernest.com wrote: treating one kind of web-delivered asset differently than others introduces an unnecessary level of complexity Serving fonts isn't as simple as your CSS though; its useful to have a web font serve that parses the UA string

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Setting up self hosting

2013-10-28 Thread Vernon Adams
Hi Quinn! I keep wanting to find this out too. IMO it’s the missing key to a typographic revolution :) You might want to look at https://github.com/garrickvanburen/Fontue It is a few years old now. Have you searched on github for ‘font server’ and ‘webfont server’ ?? Brings up a few