Re: [OpenFontLibrary] workflow hints

2010-06-23 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le mardi 15 juin 2010 à 00:52 +0400, Alexandre Prokoudine a écrit : In other words, would it be considered polite to just distribute FontForge source and expect someone contribute a script that exports it to UFO or whatever, in case that someone really-really needs it? At this point it would

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] workflow hints

2010-06-23 Thread Peter Baker
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net wrote: Dejavu and Andrey Panov's Heuristica are two examples that get it right (good releases, in source format, with clear licensing and makefiles that just work, simple versions, changes tracked in a public vcs one

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] workflow hints

2010-06-15 Thread Ben Laenen
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 12:03 AM, Schrijver e...@authoritism.net wrote: The main reason why you would want to use UFO is that it is agnostic to the editor being used. And the main reason why you shouldn't work with UFO *at this moment* is that it doesn't support basic stuff like truetype

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] workflow hints

2010-06-15 Thread Ben Laenen
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 3:53 AM, Peter Baker b.ta...@gmail.com wrote: Couple of quick points. First, the FontForge format has always been plain text. It works well with CVS, SVN, etc. Only if you cut out the unneeded bits like we do with DejaVu. If we would forget to run that script and commit

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] workflow hints

2010-06-15 Thread Denis Jacquerye
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Ben Laenen benlae...@gmail.com wrote: Strangely, the binary font formats remain very good for exchange. Both the major editors read them! You'd still lose a lot of metadata though, like OpenType rule names for which there's no room in the ttf file. And it's

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] workflow hints

2010-06-15 Thread Barry Schwartz
Ben Laenen benlae...@gmail.com skribis: Anyway, FontForge's normalized SFD format is by far the best we've got for collaborative font development. Actually, George Williams has recommended OpenType. As if to prove so, he has those extra tables in which you can stash the same information as

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] workflow hints

2010-06-15 Thread Dave Crossland
Where? :) On 15 Jun 2010, 9:25 AM, Barry Schwartz chemoelect...@chemoelectric.org wrote: Ben Laenen benlae...@gmail.com skribis: Anyway, FontForge's normalized SFD format is by far the best we've got for collaborative font de... Actually, George Williams has recommended OpenType. As if to

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] workflow hints

2010-06-15 Thread Erik van Blokland
On 15 jun 2010, at 09:12, Ben Laenen wrote: And the main reason why you shouldn't work with UFO *at this moment* is that it doesn't support basic stuff like truetype hinting yet. Perhaps I can explain a bit about the state of support of hinting data in UFO. It is largely due to the

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] workflow hints

2010-06-15 Thread Barry Schwartz
Alexandre Prokoudine alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com skribis: I'm finally looking inside http://oflb.open-fonts.org/foo-open-font-sources-2.0.tar.gz that Nicolas mentioned during his talk at LGM. Is there some kind of description of the recommended workflow? Like doing everything in separate

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] workflow hints

2010-06-15 Thread Erik van Blokland
On 15 jun 2010, at 14:48, Ben Laenen wrote: Erik van Blokland wrote: Perhaps I can explain a bit about the state of support of hinting data in UFO. It is largely due to the different ways in which TrueType hinting can be represented and the different expectations/formats various editors

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] workflow hints

2010-06-15 Thread Barry Schwartz
Khaled Hosny khaledho...@eglug.org skribis: On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 05:12:30PM +0200, Ben Laenen wrote: Khaled Hosny wrote: On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 09:32:48AM +0200, Ben Laenen wrote: On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 3:53 AM, Peter Baker b.ta...@gmail.com wrote: Couple of quick points.

[OpenFontLibrary] workflow hints

2010-06-14 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
Hi, I'm finally looking inside http://oflb.open-fonts.org/foo-open-font-sources-2.0.tar.gz that Nicolas mentioned during his talk at LGM. Is there some kind of description of the recommended workflow? Like doing everything in separate UFO files and then combining them in FF, or working on a

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] workflow hints

2010-06-14 Thread Schrijver
Hi Alexandre, IIRC Nicolas doesn’t recommend a specific workflow, rather, this template seeks to accommodate the various workflows people might have. Generally, you won’t want to work on the UFO files directly, but you interface through an editor which can read and write UFO, like fontforge

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] workflow hints

2010-06-14 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 6/15/10, Schrijver wrote: Generally, you won’t want to work on the UFO files directly, but you interface through an editor which can read and write UFO, like fontforge or the proprietary alternative. I sort of suspected that :-P I guess internally fontforge then creates a fontforge

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] workflow hints

2010-06-14 Thread Peter Baker
On Monday, June 14, 2010, Schrijver You could actually come up with collaboration strategies around Fontforge’s own format too; I think they made a plain-text version of it for this purpose. (And I think this is in Nicolas’ templates as well). The main reason why you would want to use UFO