Re: 20090101 (log data)

2007-11-14 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 11:46:07AM -0500, Hans S. wrote: TOR Admin (gpfTOR1) wrote: I will try it for email (fon, mobile and sms may be nearly like this): For mobile calls and SMS messages, the cell location of the caller/ sender at the beginning of the call must be recorded. Please take a

Re: 20090101 (log data)

2007-11-14 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 08:12:35PM +0100, linux wrote: do you know what is a timestamp in terms of this law? today, 11pm 2: anon server: In my opinion, an anon sever has to log every replacement of a sender ID by his own ID and the time stamp of this replacement. Tor

Re: 20090101 (log data)

2007-11-12 Thread Matthew MacGregor
(Disclaimer: I'm not doing it, nor will I ever do it, so raiding my place is completely pointless; and once you've ruined my life sufficiently, you and yours will pay dearly, and in person). Not think you're being a tad melodramatic there? --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus

Re: 20090101 (log data)

2007-11-12 Thread algenon flower
? Algenon Hans S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Original Message From: Marco Gruss Apparently from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: or-talk@freehaven.net Subject: Re: 20090101 (log data) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:27:39 +0100 Hi, TOR Admin (gpfTOR1) wrote: I

Re: 20090101 (log data)

2007-11-12 Thread Kasimir Gabert
On Nov 12, 2007 3:15 AM, algenon flower [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello I just hardly can't believe it what I am hearing about this. From what I get, it sounds like a full on assault on privacy and free speech, the things that make the internet good, has begun. I am very sorry to hear the

Re: 20090101 (log data)

2007-11-12 Thread Marko Sihvo
Andrew kirjoitti: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marko Sihvo schrieb: Eugen Leitl kirjoitti: Yes, I agree, ordinarily this is morally despicable, but this is war, and we haven't started it. SI VIS PACEM, PARA BELLUM Bad idea. Right now we're not

Re: 20090101 (log data)

2007-11-12 Thread linux
On Sunday 11 November 2007 10:43, TOR Admin (gpfTOR1) wrote: do you know what is a timestamp in terms of this law? today, 11pm 2: anon server: In my opinion, an anon sever has to log every replacement of a sender ID by his own ID and the time stamp of this replacement. Tor

Re: 20090101 (log data)

2007-11-12 Thread linux
Timing attacs can be done only with accurate data. What if my server has a wrong time or its clock is changing speed randomly or ... I think some more clever people then me will come up with an idea soon. I am sure tor developers will soon improve tor. We should of course do a lot in fighting

Re: 20090101 (log data)

2007-11-12 Thread Kasimir Gabert
On Nov 12, 2007 12:13 PM, linux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Timing attacs can be done only with accurate data. What if my server has a wrong time or its clock is changing speed randomly or ... I think some more clever people then me will come up with an idea soon. I am sure tor developers will

Re: 20090101 (log data)

2007-11-12 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 01:13:23PM -0700, Kasimir Gabert wrote: The Overnet idea seems a tad silly. If connections in between servers I don't know how well hidden services and current Tor codebase scales, but having an anonymous communication space is certainly worthwhile, even if read-only.

Re: 20090101 (log data)

2007-11-12 Thread Kasimir Gabert
On Nov 12, 2007 1:26 PM, Eugen Leitl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 01:13:23PM -0700, Kasimir Gabert wrote: The Overnet idea seems a tad silly. If connections in between servers I don't know how well hidden services and current Tor codebase scales, but having an anonymous

Re: 20090101 (log data)

2007-11-11 Thread Paolo Amoroso
On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 10:43:03 +0100 TOR Admin (gpfTOR1) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will try it for email (fon, mobile and sms may be nearly like this): thank you ;-)

Re: 20090101 (log data)

2007-11-11 Thread Marco Gruss
Hi, TOR Admin (gpfTOR1) wrote: I will try it for email (fon, mobile and sms may be nearly like this): For mobile calls and SMS messages, the cell location of the caller/ sender at the beginning of the call must be recorded. Pretty ugly, IMHO. Marco

Re: 20090101 (log data)

2007-11-11 Thread Hans S.
Original Message From: Marco Gruss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apparently from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: or-talk@freehaven.net Subject: Re: 20090101 (log data) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:27:39 +0100 Hi, TOR Admin (gpfTOR1) wrote: I will try it for email (fon, mobile and sms may

Re: 20090101 (log data)

2007-11-11 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 11:46:07AM -0500, Hans S. wrote: I personally begin to look around for places to set up my node (and myself;) in other parts of the world. When you do this, make sure you that the server/IP is not registered to you personally, and make sure the means of payment are not

Re: 20090101 (log data)

2007-11-11 Thread Marko Sihvo
Eugen Leitl kirjoitti: Yes, I agree, ordinarily this is morally despicable, but this is war, and we haven't started it. I agree... Acting like saint will end up in the death of anonymity and free communciations... Welcome to the real world... SI VIS PACEM, PARA BELLUM

Re: 20090101 (log data)

2007-11-11 Thread Andrew
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marko Sihvo schrieb: Eugen Leitl kirjoitti: Yes, I agree, ordinarily this is morally despicable, but this is war, and we haven't started it. SI VIS PACEM, PARA BELLUM Bad idea. Right now we're not criminals, and can even convince the