Re: 20090101 (log data)

2007-11-12 Thread Matthew MacGregor
(Disclaimer: I'm not doing it, nor will I ever do it, so raiding my place is completely pointless; and once you've ruined my life sufficiently, you and yours will pay dearly, and in person). Not think you're being a tad melodramatic there? --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus

Re: 20090101

2007-11-12 Thread Matej Kovacic
Hi, SI VIS PACEM, PARA BELLUM Bad idea. Right now we're not criminals, and can even convince the interested public of that. If we'd start shooting back we would lose public support. Which is the factor that will decide this war. Plus, it would never really work. Antivirus software would

Re: 20090101

2007-11-12 Thread TOR Admin (gpfTOR1)
Matej Kovacic schrieb: I agree. But what about building Tor server and client into popular P2P clients? There is a project to spread out Tor by pre-configured DSL-modem/WLAN-router. http://wiki.freunde-der-freiheit.de/index.php/TOR-Campaign They have a mailing list. I do not know, if a router

Re: 20090101 (log data)

2007-11-12 Thread algenon flower
Hello I just hardly can't believe it what I am hearing about this. From what I get, it sounds like a full on assault on privacy and free speech, the things that make the internet good, has begun. I am very sorry to hear the news and am very upset for everybody, especially those in Europe

Re: 20090101 (log data)

2007-11-12 Thread Kasimir Gabert
On Nov 12, 2007 3:15 AM, algenon flower [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello I just hardly can't believe it what I am hearing about this. From what I get, it sounds like a full on assault on privacy and free speech, the things that make the internet good, has begun. I am very sorry to hear the

Re: 20090101 (log data)

2007-11-12 Thread Marko Sihvo
Andrew kirjoitti: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marko Sihvo schrieb: Eugen Leitl kirjoitti: Yes, I agree, ordinarily this is morally despicable, but this is war, and we haven't started it. SI VIS PACEM, PARA BELLUM Bad idea. Right now we're not

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2007-11-12 Thread Eugen Leitl
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Re: 20090101 (log data)

2007-11-12 Thread linux
On Sunday 11 November 2007 10:43, TOR Admin (gpfTOR1) wrote: do you know what is a timestamp in terms of this law? today, 11pm 2: anon server: In my opinion, an anon sever has to log every replacement of a sender ID by his own ID and the time stamp of this replacement. Tor

Re: 20090101 (log data)

2007-11-12 Thread linux
Timing attacs can be done only with accurate data. What if my server has a wrong time or its clock is changing speed randomly or ... I think some more clever people then me will come up with an idea soon. I am sure tor developers will soon improve tor. We should of course do a lot in fighting

Re: 20090101 (log data)

2007-11-12 Thread Kasimir Gabert
On Nov 12, 2007 12:13 PM, linux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Timing attacs can be done only with accurate data. What if my server has a wrong time or its clock is changing speed randomly or ... I think some more clever people then me will come up with an idea soon. I am sure tor developers will

Re: 20090101 (log data)

2007-11-12 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 01:13:23PM -0700, Kasimir Gabert wrote: The Overnet idea seems a tad silly. If connections in between servers I don't know how well hidden services and current Tor codebase scales, but having an anonymous communication space is certainly worthwhile, even if read-only.

Change protocol to be resistant to EU laws (was: 20090101 (log data))

2007-11-12 Thread Felix Eckhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi. On Monday, 12. November 2007, algenon flower wrote: Am I to believe from the foregoing that potentially having to surrender a Tor servers logs (that do not compromise much) will actually make Tor server operators criminals because they don't

Re: 20090101 (log data)

2007-11-12 Thread Kasimir Gabert
On Nov 12, 2007 1:26 PM, Eugen Leitl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 01:13:23PM -0700, Kasimir Gabert wrote: The Overnet idea seems a tad silly. If connections in between servers I don't know how well hidden services and current Tor codebase scales, but having an anonymous

Re: Change protocol to be resistant to EU laws

2007-11-12 Thread Marco Bonetti
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Felix Eckhofer wrote: Would it be an option to add a jurisdiction parameter to each Tor-server? why not using the existing family config option? what if every german tor server will run under germany family? could it be viable? (and I'll use italy