Re: Database Verification

2003-01-19 Thread Arup Nanda
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Re: Database Verification

2003-01-19 Thread Tim Gorman
can do, no one else. Thanks for the tip. Arup From: Tim Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Database Verification Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 22:58:43 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from

RE: Database Verification

2003-01-19 Thread Robert Freeman
Oooo yea another nice feature... RF -Original Message- Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 12:59 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Don't forget about the more important issue of detecting corrupted archived redo logfiles. Datafile corruption can be bad; redo log file

Re: Database Verification

2003-01-18 Thread Tim Gorman
Don't forget about the more important issue of detecting corrupted archived redo logfiles. Datafile corruption can be bad; redo log file corruption is always disastrous, especially if undetected until recovery time... RMAN checks archivelogs for corruption while backing them up. - Original

RE: Database Verification

2003-01-17 Thread Stephane Faroult
I am considering the appropriate way to do database corruption prevention. Should I use one or more of the following as a proactive measure ? a) Export b) DBVerify c) Analyze table table_name validate structure cascade Any advice ? Thanks, PH Pui Ho, The only way you can be

RE: Database Verification

2003-01-17 Thread Smith, Ron L.
I would do all three. A good backup stategy is only good if you read all your data all the time. You can have corrupt data that doesn't get read and doesn't cause a problem for weeks, month, years. By that time you have no backup that does not contain corrupt data. Export to a null file to

Re: Database Verification

2003-01-17 Thread Arup Nanda
(d) All of the above i) Export to /dev/null will go through all the fields of all the tables, all the rows, but will not scan indexes ii) Dbverify will scan for block corruptions but not logical corruptions. iii) Analyze will check for table-index logical corruption. Practically, you could just

RE: Database Verification

2003-01-17 Thread Rajesh . Rao
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RE: Database Verification

2003-01-17 Thread Smith, Ron L.
We had a corrupt index block which caused an ORA-600 which was not noticed and eventually brought down the database. We do lots of checks now. (d) All of the above. R. Smith -Original Message- Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 8:19 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L (d) All of

RE: Database Verification

2003-01-17 Thread Freeman Robert - IL
No need to do any of this if you are using RMAN. With each backup, RMAN checks each block backed up for any corruption. Corruption will be reported and you can opt to allow a certain amount of it or none. Rf Robert G. Freeman Technical Management Consultant TUSC - The Oracle Experts

RE: Database Verification

2003-01-17 Thread Fink, Dan
Pui Ho, Stephane raises a good point, unfortunately, many operations groups stop at the backup. It is not the responsibility of operations to backup the database/system. It is the responsibility of operations to recover the database/system. There are many stories of backups that execute

RE: Database Verification

2003-01-17 Thread Koivu, Lisa
Title: RE: Database Verification FWIW: The other answers have been correct as to what to do to check for corruption. As far as preventing it?? I don't know of a way you can PREVENT it from happening. When it happens, it's usually something out of your hands (bad hardware, glitch in OS

RE: Database Verification

2003-01-17 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
Use Rman. Rman automatically detects and reports corrupt blocks. right Robert? :) Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 7:28 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I am considering the appropriate way to do database

RE: Database Verification

2003-01-17 Thread Stephen Lee
If I recall correctly, RMAN checks for corruption. -Original Message- I am considering the appropriate way to do database corruption prevention. Should I use one or more of the following as a proactive measure ? a) Export b) DBVerify c) Analyze table table_name validate

RE: Database Verification

2003-01-17 Thread M Rafiq
Robert, Surprising Robert G. Freeman Technical Management Consultant TUSC - The Oracle Experts www.tusc.com When did you join TUSC? It looks that all guru's are joining TUSC. Regards Rafiq Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Database Verification

2003-01-17 Thread Arup Nanda
Robert, What if the RMAN incremental facility is used and the blocks get corrupted in an unchanged space? Will RMAN then identify the corruption? Arup - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 10:39 AM No need to do

Re: Database Verification

2003-01-17 Thread Mogens Nørgaard
And in the extreme end of the spectrum, you might want to learn about block dumps in order to be prepared for the day when you have a corrupted block. The block dumps can show people - who know what they're looking for, ie have prepared - a lot of useful information. Might be a valuable piece