Re: [Origami] The Third Joisel Award - Voting is Open

2023-08-21 Thread Lorenzo via Origami
Dear Hans, dear Laura, stimulating replies, yours. Thanks Ilan for the clarification. Here are my comments, long comments :( Hans, first of all, please don't take this personally, because I used "if you think..." combined with harsh tones. I wasn't referring to you, it was my way of saying "if

Re: [Origami] The Third Joisel Award - Voting is Open

2023-08-21 Thread Ilan Garibi via Origami
Dear friends and art lovers, We thank you for raising this issue and creating a discussion about that aspect of the competition. The original idea was to put the models to the test, and not the creators. We definitely cannot say for sure if there is anything else in the world as such, but it was

Re: [Origami] The Third Joisel Award - Voting is Open

2023-08-21 Thread Laura R via Origami
I had my reservations about chiming in initially, but this conversation has truly evolved into something intriguing. Back when I was just a young girl in the early 60s, I delved into the world of origami using the limited books available in the market. Those books didn't bear the names of

Re: [Origami] The Third Joisel Award - Voting is Open

2023-08-21 Thread Papirfoldning.dk
> You might refer to the opportunity for the author to submit its work > anonymously, which is surely fair and which is much different than something > decided as general rule for the competition. Also that, but not primarily. > Furthermore, there's a big misunderstanding about "bias": when I

Re: [Origami] The Third Joisel Award - Voting is Open

2023-08-20 Thread Lorenzo via Origami
Hans, Miranda, You might refer to the opportunity for the author to submit its work anonymously, which is surely fair and which is much different than something decided as general rule for the competition. Furthermore, there's a big misunderstanding about "bias": when I judge an artifact I like

Re: [Origami] The Third Joisel Award - Voting is Open

2023-08-20 Thread Papirfoldning.dk
On 20 Aug 2023, at 22.26, Mizu-randa wrote:  From: Lorenzo via Origami Sent: 20 August, 2023 21:50 Have you ever seen an artistic competition where you, voters, didn't know anything about the author?   it’s not uncommon for a competition (especially artistic) to be under motto or

Re: [Origami] The Third Joisel Award - Voting is Open

2023-08-20 Thread Mizu-randa
From: Lorenzo via Origami Sent: 20 August, 2023 21:50 Have you ever seen an artistic competition where you, voters, didn't know anything about the author? I never have. Don’t worry Lorenzo, they’re al the ‘usual suspects’ and a lot of the models have been published on Instagram and other

Re: [Origami] The Third Joisel Award - Voting is Open

2023-08-20 Thread Lorenzo via Origami
Dear Gerardo, your explanation is, of course, what I already guessed. Nevertheless, I'm quite (let's say: very) surprised that anyone wanted to hide the creators' name, as it seems to me like a rather crude "military act of force", an imposition that I don't think has any equal in any of the

Re: [Origami] The Third Joisel Award - Voting is Open

2023-08-20 Thread gera...@neorigami.com
Lorenzo is asking why don't the names of the nominated creators and folders appear on the award entries webpage. This page https://cfcorigami.com/award-entries-2023 I'm not a part of the awards' organizers or anything like that. I am just an origamist that is very interested in this project as

Re: [Origami] The Third Joisel Award - Voting is Open

2023-08-19 Thread Lorenzo via Origami
Is it me, or is there no name of the creator for each model in the competition? If so, why? It's the first time in my life that I see this kind of thing. Lorenzo On Sun, 6 Aug 2023 at 10:10, Ilan Garibi via Origami < origami@lists.digitalorigami.com> wrote: > Dear Origami Lovers, > > The