[osdcmy-public] Bye Java, Hello C

2010-04-20 Terurut Topik A Johan
salam good day all, according to the TIOBE index C is now the most used programming language. java is on a declining trend. php surprisingly upward trend. and the language yg orang suka kutuk / gelak / mock is at #5. other interesting thing to see is the super star rise of Objective C and Go (?

Re: [osdcmy-public] Bye Java, Hello C

2010-04-20 Terurut Topik Raja Iskandar Shah
aj where have you been ? we have been quoting the tiobe index in the flaming php vs python war well not really lah be interesting to see anyone do a framework with php as presentation layer with python on the backend (like an abstraction layer). some good backend stuff like analytics,

Re: [osdcmy-public] MOSC2010 : Open Source Community Person Contact - Leader Community

2010-04-20 Terurut Topik Ahmad Arafat Abdullah
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:31 PM, Mohd Fazli Azran mfazliaz...@gmail.comwrote: Update Community Leaders 1) Joomla - En. Shaifullnizam shaifful...@gmail.com 2) Ubuntu - En. Khairul Aizat fen...@ubuntu.com 3) Fedora - En Syamsul Anuar wari...@gmail.com wari...@gmail.com4) Python - 5)

Re: [osdcmy-public] Iphone is more appealing than FOSS

2010-04-20 Terurut Topik Boh Yap
ha, being an OSX user and a Linux user, I'll have to throw in my 2 cents worth From the marketing POV, Linux ( other FOSS OS) has a few problem, it is still very much a 'geek' tool. Many noobs still have problems installing Linux and getting it to work properly on their own... (yes the new

Re: [osdcmy-public] Bye Java, Hello C

2010-04-20 Terurut Topik Boh Yap
hi, Go is the new C-like system programming language developed and OSS by Google. It can be found on google's site somewhere... On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 2:19 PM, A Johan ajoha...@gmail.com wrote: salam good day all, according to the TIOBE index C is now the most used programming language.

Re: [osdcmy-public] Iphone is more appealing than FOSS

2010-04-20 Terurut Topik Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabidi
For this reason I still running Windows XP with Cygwin running. It has GCC, Emacs, SVN, LaTeX with BibTeX too . On 4/20/10, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote: And you might probably notice, many Unix geeks and even FOSS developers are using Macs, for their normal use... but they still continue

[osdcmy-public] Re: [Owasp-Malaysia] No update AV with 100% detection rate: IKONA

2010-04-20 Terurut Topik Mohd Fazli Azran
No comment it. I think the person who are have authorities to comment was En. Arafat.. he know better this AV. On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabidi najmi.zab...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Anyone buy this home-brewed AV?

[osdcmy-public] Re: [Owasp-Malaysia] No update AV with 100% detection rate: IKONA

2010-04-20 Terurut Topik Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabidi
Since it does not has any update (hence signatureless?) as well as the perfect score, I want to believe it by myself. Perhaps ppl with 0days in hand can try this one out. Seems that they also create one for UNIX environment. On 4/20/10, Mohd Fazli Azran mfazliaz...@gmail.com wrote: No comment

[osdcmy-public] Re: [MySEC] Re: [Owasp-Malaysia] No update AV with 100% detection rate: IKONA

2010-04-20 Terurut Topik Ahmad Arafat Abdullah
ahahaha adoi.. it's sounds like this.. when politicians try to produce a best techni...@itproduct in the world.. while they don't know ins and out of the product itself.. so let the product surface and we do test about their claims.. gosh.. dunno wanna laugh or cry ahahahaha... On Tue, Apr

[osdcmy-public] Re: [MySEC] Re: [Owasp-Malaysia] No update AV with 100% detection rate: IKONA

2010-04-20 Terurut Topik Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabidi
I expecting them to offer bounty challenge... or money back guarantee stuffs. On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Ahmad Arafat Abdullah trunas...@gmail.comwrote: ahahaha adoi.. it's sounds like this.. when politicians try to produce a best techni...@it product in the world.. while they don't

[osdcmy-public] Re: [MySEC] Re: [Owasp-Malaysia] No update AV with 100% detection rate: IKONA

2010-04-20 Terurut Topik Ahmad Arafat Abdullah
For me it's very simple and easy.. put the vanilla install that software and we do openhack or penetration test for all.. see how the result.. :) On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabidi najmi.zab...@gmail.com wrote: I expecting them to offer bounty challenge... or money

Re: [osdcmy-public] MOSC2010 : Open Source Community Person Contact - Leader Community

2010-04-20 Terurut Topik Muhammad Hafiz
Holla! So nice damn long list of PMs! Thumbs and toes up! Can I be a part of the organising team, and if I can, what is the benefits? Wish to join this year, although didn't expect the venue gonna be far far away :( Inform me any updates! Thanks, Hafiz =) On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Boh Yap

[osdcmy-public] Re: [MySEC] Re: [Owasp-Malaysia] No update AV with 100% detection rate: IKONA

2010-04-20 Terurut Topik BRIAN RITCHIE
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 3:37 PM, Adnan bin Mohd Shukor adnan.shu...@gmail.com wrote: they do have it for Unix platform (according to the sale person) how they detect is by so called scoring via 1) heuristic 2) sandboxing Scored on both. The thing is, their heuristic engine needs to be

[osdcmy-public] Re: [MySEC] Re: [Owasp-Malaysia] No update AV with 100% detection rate: IKONA

2010-04-20 Terurut Topik Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabidi
If there is a pattern, means there are rules/signatures. dealing with polymorphic, metamorphic stuffs .. i wonder... On 4/20/10, BRIAN RITCHIE esqbrianritc...@gmail.com wrote: --snipped a) ensuring that the program is intelligent enough to mature its own code through variants and pattern

[osdcmy-public] Re: [MySEC] Re: [Owasp-Malaysia] No update AV with 100% detection rate: IKONA

2010-04-20 Terurut Topik Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabidi
Uiks.. ampang belah mana tu dekat je tu. boleh berguru dengan depa. On 4/20/10, Adnan bin Mohd Shukor adnan.shu...@gmail.com wrote: they do have it for Unix platform (according to the sale person) how they detect is by so called scoring via 1) heuristic 2) sandboxing owh ya, they have an

Re: [osdcmy-public] MOSC2010 : Open Source Community Person Contact - Leader Community

2010-04-20 Terurut Topik Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabidi
Just put in wiki somewhere if not wikipedia.org :) Simply kopipes the URL later On 4/20/10, Muhammad Hafiz hidzir.ha...@gmail.com wrote: Holla! So nice damn long list of PMs! Thumbs and toes up! Can I be a part of the organising team, and if I can, what is the benefits? Wish to join this year,

Re: [osdcmy-public] osdcmywiki needs more writers and contributors!!!

2010-04-20 Terurut Topik archayl
Just asking, what's wrong with the other one. osdcmy.pbworks.com. There's one, why is there a need to create anew? Nothing personal. Just asking about the significance of this. Please clarify, thanks. On Tue, 2010-04-20 at 18:25 +0800, Ahmad Arafat Abdullah wrote: we need more writers and

Re: [osdcmy-public] Bye Java, Hello C

2010-04-20 Terurut Topik Hasan Abu Bakar
Java and PHP are made from C obviously. C can survive independently because it's C. There is no PHP or Java without C. So don't get too excited if TIOBE index indicates C is the most used programming language. Hasanuddin Abu Bakar --- Ubuntu embedded

Re: [osdcmy-public] Bye Java, Hello C

2010-04-20 Terurut Topik A Johan
Salam n good day all I don't think anyone here is excited that C is currently the most used language. Its just a point that in this day n age non-oo languages like C is still doing strong. Yet a lot of colleges no longer stress C as a fundamental language to learn. Why is that? That was the

Re: [osdcmy-public] No update AV with 100% detection rate: IKONA

2010-04-20 Terurut Topik Marcus Low
try and download it and you will see why some things are too good to be true ;-) Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabidi wrote: Hello, Anyone buy this home-brewed AV? http://www.ikonasoftware.com/?page=12parent=1\ Seems F-Secure, TrendMicro etc to be out of business 0_0 -- Join Open Source

Re: [osdcmy-public] MOSC2010 : Open Source Community Person Contact - Leader Community

2010-04-20 Terurut Topik Harisfazillah Jamel
OK will do. OSCC MAMPU also monitoring this thread. They are going to have a workshop between community and OSCC MAMPU early Jun. This contact information will help them to send invitation letter. Thank you. On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabidi najmi.zab...@gmail.com

Re: [osdcmy-public] MOSC2010 : Open Source Community Person Contact - Leader Community

2010-04-20 Terurut Topik Mohd Fazli Azran
For others community not listed to OSDC.My please do so. We need co-operation with others Team Leader if any events, seminar or conference related to OSS we will update to all team leader. On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 11:36 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: OK will do. OSCC

Re: [osdcmy-public] Bye Java, Hello C

2010-04-20 Terurut Topik red1
C is the mother of all languages Java is its father. On 4/20/10 8:33 PM, A Johan wrote: Salam n good day all I don't think anyone here is excited that C is currently the most used language. Its just a point that in this day n age non-oo languages like C is still doing strong. Yet a lot of

Re: [osdcmy-public] Bye Java, Hello C

2010-04-20 Terurut Topik E A Faisal
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 6:56 AM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: C is the mother of all languages Java is its father. I guest because the marriage of these 2, all sort of crazy programming language were born! -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page

Re: [osdcmy-public] Bye Java, Hello C

2010-04-20 Terurut Topik Umarzuki Mochlis
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 9:38 AM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: It is an honour to know that i am put as such. But I am not able to perform cos we got nothing to show along the theme of 'asyik orang lain punya barang'. Unless MOSC2010 wants to see sendiri punya barang i can showcase ADempiere in

Re: [osdcmy-public] Bye Java, Hello C

2010-04-20 Terurut Topik Raja Iskandar Shah
bapak2 ibu2. minta bersabar ... team call for papers baru bermula untuk speakers bagi mosc. krimnet pun ada sikit present untuk adempiere sneakpeek : http://software.krimnet.com/adempiere/adempiere-language-pack-installation-malay.htm On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Umarzuki

Re: [osdcmy-public] Bye Java, Hello C

2010-04-20 Terurut Topik Mohd Fazli Azran
Kepada semua bawak bertendang! CFP team sudah pun release announcement untuk Speakers. http://conf.oss.my/cfp.html Mana2 speaker yang berminat untuk membentangkan hasil kerja mereka dipersilakan untuk mendaftar dan tahun ini kita akan tumpukan kepada speaker dalam negara. Untuk Speaker luar

Re: [osdcmy-public] Bye Java, Hello C

2010-04-20 Terurut Topik Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabidi
boleh tau sapa yg dah submit topics and proposed topics hehe... dulu2 ada keluar rasenye kat laman depan, tapi tak ingat conf mana On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Mohd Fazli Azran mfazliaz...@gmail.comwrote: Kepada semua bawak bertendang! CFP team sudah pun release announcement untuk

Re: [osdcmy-public] Bye Java, Hello C

2010-04-20 Terurut Topik Raja Iskandar Shah
hmmm... main site joomla : http://conf.oss.my/ cfp page drupal : http://conf.oss.my/cfp.html cepat2... ada 12 slot aje ;-) lagi 6 slot dah reserve untuk the 3 bof events. kalau ada permintaan hangat boleh kami buka lagi tambah slot. kalau ada yg nak buat 2 hour hands-on tutorial, sila email

Re: [osdcmy-public] Bye Java, Hello C

2010-04-20 Terurut Topik Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 9:38 AM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: It is an honour to know that i am put as such. But I am not able to perform cos we got nothing to show along the theme of 'asyik orang lain punya barang'. Unless MOSC2010 wants to see sendiri punya barang i can showcase ADempiere in