[osdcmy-public] Re: OSDC to host SourceForge Mirror Site
Im more incline to agree with having central cloud service. On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 7:41 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: local traffic. Let propose different way. 30 mil to create one central cloud service for Malaysia OSS community to work with and link together. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: Google Wave invitation
Sesiapa yang boleh invite, please invite me as well. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: M$ patent SUDO.. so what now? ( for those who use sudo as their administration tools )
Crap! What now? Guess we need a biometric retinal-scan-based GUI sudo :P On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 3:30 AM, Ahmad Arafat Abdullah trunas...@gmail.comwrote: taken from link sent by Syazwan, TQ dude.. *http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2009094923390*http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2009094923390 -- # uname -a NetBSD 5.0 NetBSD 5.0 (GENERIC) #0: Sun Apr 26 18:50:08 UTC 2009 bui...@b6.netbsd.org:/home/builds/ab/netbsd-5-0-RELEASE/i386/200904260229Z-obj/home/builds/ab/netbsd-5-0-RELEASE/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC i386 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: Google Wave invitation
Thanks for the nomination. On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 8:56 PM, Muhammad Syafiq creativeneur...@gmail.comwrote: finish already lah bro.. محمد شافق بن مذلي Muhammad Syafiq Bin Mazli 9C47 367F 03AE 5CCF EB9C 693F 4FCA 7273 A3C3 20BD Sent from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Mohd Yusnizam Mohamad myusni...@opensource.org.my wrote: invite myusnizam at opensource dot org dot my TQ On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Muhammad Syafiq creativeneur...@gmail.com wrote: okay guys, here ppl who's invited by me. done finish already. thank you, btw, i wish u guys will enjoy with google wave. Reply Edit People my nominated: - hadri.hi...@gmail.com - trunas...@gmail.com - ridzwa...@gmail.com - tipswan...@gmail.com - eafai...@gmail.com - mynameisam...@gmail.com regards, محمد شافق بن مذلي Muhammad Syafiq Bin Mazli 9C47 367F 03AE 5CCF EB9C 693F 4FCA 7273 A3C3 20BD Sent from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 7:41 PM, Amin Mahmood mynameisam...@gmail.comwrote: invite me please mynameisam...@gmail.com On 11/16/09, E A Faisal eafai...@gmail.com wrote: My Syafiq, pls add me as well eafai...@gmail.com On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Muhammad Syafiq creativeneur...@gmail.com wrote: okay mr. se7en. 1 google wave account done invited to you. have a nice day! 2 account more! محمد شافق بن مذلي Muhammad Syafiq Bin Mazli 9C47 367F 03AE 5CCF EB9C 693F 4FCA 7273 A3C3 20BD Sent from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:49 PM, se7en ridzwa...@gmail.com wrote: add me also.. ridzwa...@gmail.com On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Muhammad Syafiq creativeneur...@gmail.com wrote: okay, hadri and encik arafat done invited. have a nice day with your google wave account. Thank you. 3 account's more! محمد شافق بن مذلي Muhammad Syafiq Bin Mazli 9C47 367F 03AE 5CCF EB9C 693F 4FCA 7273 A3C3 20BD Sent from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Ahmad Arafat Abdullah trunas...@gmail.com wrote: add me.. *trunas...@gmail.com* On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:22 PM, hadri hilmi hadri.hi...@gmail.com wrote: count me, hadri.hi...@gmail.com. On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 2:20 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Saya sudah ada. Sekadar hendak bertanya berapa lama perlu tunggu baru dapat jemput orang lain? On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:08 PM, Muhammad Syafiq creativeneur...@gmail.com wrote: salam hi everyone, i got 5 google wave to invite. pls list down your email. Tq. -- # uname -a NetBSD 5.0 NetBSD 5.0 (GENERIC) #0: Sun Apr 26 18:50:08 UTC 2009 bui...@b6.netbsd.org:/home/builds/ab/netbsd-5-0-RELEASE/i386/200904260229Z-obj/home/builds/ab/netbsd-5-0-RELEASE/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC i386 -- Never Underestimated People Stupidity http://www.se7enet.co.cc -- Nor Amin bin Mahmood Bachelor (Hons) of Information Communication Technology (ICT), Universiti Teknologi PETRONAS, Bandar Sri Iskandar, 31750 Tronoh, Perak. Mobile:: -017-5652989 E-mail:: mynameisam...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [osdcmy-public] Re: Google Wave invitation
Terlalu ramai yang respond. I lost track of who already got invitations and who don't :) Anyone still need invitations? On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 12:39 AM, myusni...@opensource.org.my wrote: Noted Sent via BlackBerry from Maxis -- *From: * Amin Mahmood mynameisam...@gmail.com *Date: *Mon, 14 Dec 2009 08:34:10 -0800 *To: *osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [osdcmy-public] Re: Google Wave invitation invited already[?] -kernel...@gmail.com -kaibatheleg...@gmail.com -myusni...@opensource.org.my -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en330.gif
Re: [osdcmy-public] What you want to see if we had a Open Source Conference in Malaysia?
private cloud... a hands on, tutorial like session would be nice On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 7:37 PM, simpleLinux 2fz...@gmail.com wrote: nice.. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 3:55 PM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: i think it is 'air basuh tangan'. On 2/22/10 3:36 PM, CL Chow wrote: i smell dessert Regards, CL Chow On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Mohammad Sallehuddin Kodri mrblu...@gmail.com wrote: it seems you're the only one interested in this. will try for the desert just for you. ;p On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Azrul MADISA azrulha...@gmail.comwrote: I want to see microsoft squirm like a worm [?][?] On a more serious note, I really hope there'll be: 1) More high end OSS stuff (like scalling your app to 1000 servers, persisting to more than several dbs at a time and still stay consistent, how to make stuff blazing fast under crazy load, how to zealously cache your distributed system and still keep your data updated, millitary grade security, how to design an app with enourmous domain requirement - think hundreds of DB tables - and still keep high cohesiveness, low coupling (i.e. no spaghetti ER model) and high usability) 2) Hands on stuff preferably with things stated above 3) More real world usage of OSS in the industry - preferable outside of the usual PHP/Portal stuff (sure, PHP is great to do portal but surely OSS has other unexplored niche that we need to expose - PHP for system programming anyone? What about a messaging queue in Erlang?) 4) Less vendor stuff - please, no more 'porting stuff to MS' competition. 5) Highlight the plight of the off-the-mill street-wise OSS developer/engineer (I've been one for the last 1 year - and it's not pretty). Making a decent living is like hell! (you could get projects tons of them, but everyone expect you to charge cheap since you're OSS, plus, they'll take a lng time to pay (some still owe me money - after 4 months now) because you don't really have licensing stuff. 6) Preferable, all presentators need to present their own contributions (in form of code, software, tutorial or what not). They shouldn't just spew things you can get directly from the web. 7) Oh yeah, ice cream for desert :)) Just my 2 cents Azrul Sensei -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en360.gif
Re: [osdcmy-public] Open Source Community
I knew the legion of python.my will storm in when they hear about this :) On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 9:36 PM, CL Chow klrkdek...@gmail.com wrote: let's mob haris ;) Regards, CL Chow On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Haiya sorry. To many I may overlook. Will update for the next update. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote: What?! Python.my not listed!! we can be located here: http://groups.google.com/group/pythonmy ~ just sign up if you're interested website currently in progress just drop a post and someone will answer... Marcus is our acknowledged benevolent leader ;-) -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
Re: [osdcmy-public] PHP vs Python
Among the reasons why I don't use PHP are because its a pain to do asynchronous socket programming (Python have Twisted), stable binding to DBus, stable binding to WxWidget and stable binding to OO.org UNO. -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: [osdcmy-public] PHP vs Python
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 12:11 AM, CL Chow klrkdek...@gmail.com wrote: lol Faisal, I don't think you can compare PHP with Python on that lol, it's a completely different story XD That's exactly what I'm trying to say (hidden point). You can't really compare PHP and Python - it's like comparing rambutan and durian. If someone ask me (and many others), of course I'll be biased towards Python. But it doesn't mean that PHP is `bad`. If PHP is suited for the task by all means use PHP. Even I don't use Python when it doesn't make sense, e.g. quick `n dirty text processing can easily be done using shell script or sed or awk. -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: [osdcmy-public] Firefox vs Opera vs Chromiun/Chrome
I gotta choose Firefox, primarily because of Selenium On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Nadeem hero1...@gmail.com wrote: i use ubuntu 9.10 and i use mendeley for citation and making my papers i found it as the best software to do so and it is compatible with open office On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:18 PM, saifuladli ismail ismail.saifula...@gmail.com wrote: najmi here is the version zotero addon I use with FF3.6.3. hope it will help u. On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabidi najmi.zab...@gmail.com wrote: saiful, i also use Zotero, but it didn't work with Open Office. I'm using Ubuntu 9.10 with FF-3.5.8 and OOO 3.1.1 any clue? On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:31 AM, saifuladli ismail ismail.saifula...@gmail.com wrote: compare firefox with opera and chrome, As a researchers upon of view, I select Firefox because it support zotero as add on application to help researchers to manage paper and journal citation and bibliography. On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 11:43 AM, fenris mohdfen...@gmail.com wrote: hola guys, Firefox vs Opera vs Chromiun/Chrome? yeapp this going to be interesting Firefox vs Opera vs Chromiun/Chrome hardcores pls put in ur input - we're interested to see how the battle goes muahahahahaha OSCC is doing a benchmark on those browsers .. things we're looking at: - scalability - namespace - speed - syntax - does it work well with all programming language? (php, java, html, python n etc) - how about the flash @ pdf compatibility? - look n feel - OS platform supported - .. put ur input here .. of course we're not looking for winner here, only to weigh the pros n cons for both languages if you have references, please kindly provide ;) thx *p/s: thanks/credit to cawanpink because im borrowing her words ... -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject. -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the
Re: [osdcmy-public] Bye Java, Hello C
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 6:56 AM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: C is the mother of all languages Java is its father. I guest because the marriage of these 2, all sort of crazy programming language were born! -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
Re: [osdcmy-public] cpu bug on plus minus operations detected
Take a look at http://speleotrove.com/decimal/ for a workaround On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 2:06 PM, simpleLinux 2fz...@gmail.com wrote: Have you reported this bug to the Community? On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Walter Heck - OlinData.com walterh...@olindata.com wrote: Yep, that is why MySQL for instance has the data type NUMERIC/DECIMAL as opposed to FLOAT and DOUBLE (See: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/numeric-types.html) Also, a lot of programming languages have special datatypes used for storing financial values as they are particularly nasty for rounding errors. Never seen a 0.01 cent difference when Adding a number of items on an invoice programmatically? Walter On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 12:37, Aizuddin a.k.a ak47suk1 kaibatheleg...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm... Tested on my lappy, AMD Turion64 X2, Ubuntu Lucid Lynx 64-bit. OpenOffice Calc: Input: =161001.165-10.009-6.7-1000.456 Output: 0.000557065504835919 Input: =161001.165+(-10.009-6.7-1000.456) Output: 0 Input: =((161001.165-10.009)-6.7)-1000.456 Output: 0.000557065504835919 MySQL: mysql mysql CREATE TABLE `sumtest` ( - - `numbers` double NOT NULL, - - `group` varchar(3) NOT NULL DEFAULT 'all' - - ); Query OK, 0 rows affected (0.14 sec) mysql mysql mysql mysql INSERT INTO `sumtest` (`numbers`, `group`) VALUES - - (161001.165, 'all'), - - (-10.009, 'all'), - - (-6.7, 'all'), - - (-1000.456, 'all'); Query OK, 4 rows affected (0.10 sec) Records: 4 Duplicates: 0 Warnings: 0 mysql mysql mysql mysql SELECT SUM( `numbers` ) - - FROM `sumtest` - - WHERE `group` = 'all' - - GROUP BY `group`; +--+ | SUM( `numbers` ) | +--+ | 5.57065504835919e-12 | +--+ 1 row in set (0.04 sec) 2010/9/5 Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com cool ;-) i wonder if the bug is identical across all 32bit and 64bit cpu ? or intel treats them differently than amd, than sunsparc, than arm ? On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Walter Heck - OlinData.com walterh...@olindata.com wrote: Usually the programming languages used for those kind of programs have their own datatypes for ultra-high precision floating points. A 32 or 64 bit datatype is not enough for them anyway. They use all kinds of tricks/smart-assing to get around floating point rounding errors. Walter -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Walter Heck Founder @ OlinData (http://olindata.com) -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Fariz Luqman The Chairman of SimpleLinux Visit: http://www.simplelinux.tk There IS a Malaysian Linux Distro -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For
Re: [osdcmy-public] LINUX SW GUI DEVELOPMENT
First identify what programming language you intend to use - Python, C/C++, Perl, Java, etc. Next pick a UI toolkit - GTK, Qt, etc. I saw you mentioned PyGTK, so that pretty much translates to Python with GTK. Once you've learnt your programming language of choice, then start learning the basic concept of the UI toolkit which you're going to use. Different toolkits have their own way (concept) of drawing the screen. Once you're familiar with the fundamental concept, you can start creating your UI. Take things step by step, only then it's not going to overwhelm you. On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 9:45 PM, Nor Arlina Amirah Ahmad Ghani nor.arl...@hotmail.com wrote: Salam and Hello World Can someone run me through on how to develop a GUI for an already-existing Linux software package? Apparently the software runs via command line (on Linux) and I need a GUI for the software to make people's lives (and mine as well) easier. I don't need the codes or anything, just a quick intro and some insight, and some hints on how to start. I've checked out PyGTK, Qt and such and I HONESTLY have no idea on how to start. Blame the holidays. Thank you in advance, and yes, I am a noob. Tried googling but nothing turns out to be understandable OR I simply used the wrong keywords =_= *◄► Nor Arlina Amirah Ahmad Ghani (Ann) **AC080144* *(3SCB) Bsc Computer Science (Bioinformatics) FACULTY OF COMPUTER SCIENCE AND INFORMATION SYSTEMS* *UNIVERSITY OF TECHNOLOGY MALAYSIA* *012-5934575* -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
Re: [osdcmy-public] LINUX SW GUI DEVELOPMENT
Since you're going to use Java, next choose your UI toolkit and learn the concept of UI programming for that toolkit. For example, in wxWidgets, a window as many people know it is called a Frame. Within a frame, there could be many widgets (small elements which make up the window), eg. control widget, presentation widget, etc. For GTK, it's a bit different especially on event handling. On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 10:35 PM, Nor Arlina Amirah Ahmad Ghani nor.arl...@hotmail.com wrote: Alamak, sorry. I somehow put the wrong contohs =_= I'm going to do this with java, not phyton. My bad *◄► Nor Arlina Amirah Ahmad Ghani (Ann) **AC080144* *(3SCB) Bsc Computer Science (Bioinformatics) FACULTY OF COMPUTER SCIENCE AND INFORMATION SYSTEMS* *UNIVERSITY OF TECHNOLOGY MALAYSIA* *012-5934575* -- Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 22:14:24 +0800 Subject: Re: [osdcmy-public] LINUX SW GUI DEVELOPMENT From: eafai...@gmail.com To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com First identify what programming language you intend to use - Python, C/C++, Perl, Java, etc. Next pick a UI toolkit - GTK, Qt, etc. I saw you mentioned PyGTK, so that pretty much translates to Python with GTK. Once you've learnt your programming language of choice, then start learning the basic concept of the UI toolkit which you're going to use. Different toolkits have their own way (concept) of drawing the screen. Once you're familiar with the fundamental concept, you can start creating your UI. Take things step by step, only then it's not going to overwhelm you. On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 9:45 PM, Nor Arlina Amirah Ahmad Ghani nor.arl...@hotmail.com wrote: Salam and Hello World Can someone run me through on how to develop a GUI for an already-existing Linux software package? Apparently the software runs via command line (on Linux) and I need a GUI for the software to make people's lives (and mine as well) easier. I don't need the codes or anything, just a quick intro and some insight, and some hints on how to start. I've checked out PyGTK, Qt and such and I HONESTLY have no idea on how to start. Blame the holidays. Thank you in advance, and yes, I am a noob. Tried googling but nothing turns out to be understandable OR I simply used the wrong keywords =_= *◄► Nor Arlina Amirah Ahmad Ghani (Ann) **AC080144* *(3SCB) Bsc Computer Science (Bioinformatics) FACULTY OF COMPUTER SCIENCE AND INFORMATION SYSTEMS* *UNIVERSITY OF TECHNOLOGY MALAYSIA* *012-5934575* -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
Re: [osdcmy-public] looking for file management solutions
OT. Abd Rahman Johari @anthea, lama tak nampak. Bila boleh jumpa minum teh? -qAz- On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 10:56 PM, Nor Arlina Amirah Ahmad Ghani nor.arl...@hotmail.com wrote: ah, yes. Sorry I'm not really familiar with any of these business solutions (all these while plugged with bio softwares to even bother about anything other than my niche =_=) *sigh. I'll forward the appropriate person to discuss about this and let them take this from there. *◄► Nor Arlina Amirah Ahmad Ghani (Ann) **AC080144* *(3SCB) Bsc Computer Science (Bioinformatics) FACULTY OF COMPUTER SCIENCE AND INFORMATION SYSTEMS* *UNIVERSITY OF TECHNOLOGY MALAYSIA* *012-5934575* -- Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 22:42:40 +0800 Subject: Re: [osdcmy-public] looking for file management solutions From: swees...@gmail.com To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com The point here is, it is too early to ask for a quotation, my opinion. i think more discussion between you and the person involve in building the system is needed before that. On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 10:40 PM, sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com wrote: The spec sound simple, but i got a feeling there is more to it. For one, the statement is a bit general. More detail is useful, such as what kind of functionality is expected. How the document is inputed into the system. How you expect to retrieve it, how it would look. All this is important, because it would be added to the amount of time needed, which would in turn, translated around the price of the system. just saying On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Nor Arlina Amirah Ahmad Ghani nor.arl...@hotmail.com wrote: yes, total solution. Everything A-Z, from system development to staff training. p/s: @MASOKIS O_O jgn panggil kak.. huhu *◄► Nor Arlina Amirah Ahmad Ghani (Ann) **AC080144* *(3SCB) Bsc Computer Science (Bioinformatics) FACULTY OF COMPUTER SCIENCE AND INFORMATION SYSTEMS* *UNIVERSITY OF TECHNOLOGY MALAYSIA* *012-5934575* From: linuxmalay...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 21:19:52 +0800 Subject: Re: [osdcmy-public] looking for file management solutions To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Ni macam total solution. Daripada hendak masukkan dokumen ke sistem ke management of files. On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 9:14 PM, MASOKIS maso...@gmail.com wrote: Salam kak Nor, nak buat aturcara / apps khas ke ? On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Nor Arlina Amirah Ahmad Ghani nor.arl...@hotmail.com wrote: Salam and hello world Anyone interested in developing a file management solution for a judiciary Court House of Malaysia? Basically the jobs are to transfer all hard-copied docs into softcopies, put them up on a server or something, maintenance, and training for the staffs. Helping a family member here. I won't guarantee any business opportunity whatsoever (because the project is still an infant) but worth trying, eh? and yes, pardon me for my lack of knowledge in business terms =_= Email me your quotations, and I'll forward it to the appropriate person. thank you ◄► Nor Arlina Amirah Ahmad Ghani (Ann) AC080144 (3SCB) Bsc Computer Science (Bioinformatics) FACULTY OF COMPUTER SCIENCE AND INFORMATION SYSTEMS UNIVERSITY OF TECHNOLOGY MALAYSIA 012-5934575 -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to
Re: [osdcmy-public] Re: Python is the language of the year in tiobe!!!
I tend to agree with Guido's comment on Tiobe index. How come Javascript is well below Python, PHP and even Ruby considering how ubiquitous the language usage is? This make the ranking a little bit questionable. On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 8:34 PM, CL Chow klrkdek...@gmail.com wrote: You can add me on gtalk with this same gmail address, so we can have some sort of discussion :) Regards, CL Chow Please do not send me Microsoft Office/Apple iWork documents. Send OpenDocument instead! http://fsf.org/campaigns/opendocument/; On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Soire Meira soire...@gmail.com wrote: i really want to study python.. someone can give me a guide? 2011/1/9 Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com Do agree. We do need more programming related event for OSDC.my . On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 9:03 AM, sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com wrote: Python.my is started, i don't want to focus on language, i still think there is place for everyone. But we do need more programming related event for osdc.my(just saying), So a meetup would be good -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://www.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- *Maui Sabily 2010* *GPG KeyID*: DBDA3074 *GPG Fingerprint*: 3CCE D281 C894 4FB0 3D22 2141 75C6 E41F DBDA 3074 Soire Meira 2008 - 2010 EascobaNET, Inc 2006 - 2010 ch...@thack 2002 PaleoY2K 1998 - 2000 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://www.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://www.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information
Re: [osdcmy-public] Re: Python is the language of the year in tiobe!!!
What are the criteria to become a real language apart from being Turing complete? On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail kagesenshi...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote: well, maybe 'some people' do not consider JS to be a 'real language' seeing that it 'only' lives within the browser!? It took a long time for scripting/interpreted languages ie Python, Ruby, PHP to be accepted as real languages remember? only in browser? .. /me stares at node.js http://nodejs.org/ -- Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail / KageSenshi Inigo Consulting (FOSS/Plone Development, Training Services) http://www.inigo-tech.com Fedora Malaysia Contributor Ambassador http://blog.kagesenshi.org 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information
Re: [osdcmy-public] Suse 11.3 with libgnutls.so12 ( backward compatible )
Yes you can simply copy. Perhaps use ldd to get dependencies. If the app honor LD_LIBRARY_PATH, then probably can put in another directory. If the search path of the library is embedded in the binary (rpath), you probably can still change that using PatchELF (http://nixos.org/patchelf.html) On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Ahmad Arafat Abdullah trunas...@gmail.comwrote: Haris; can be copied just like that and put to that lib directory? On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: My suggestion. Installed the older version of the Opensuse into another machine. Copy the library files from that machine into new machine. Take care for : 1) New version OpenSuse may have symlink with the same name of old lib to new lib files. Need to remove it. 2) Its may need to be copied into /usr/lib (check OpenSuse standard directory) On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 9:32 PM, simpleLinux 2fz...@gmail.com wrote: ever tried alien that can decompile and then compile back rpms? http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/3/srodzaj/1/search/libgnutls.so.12 check it out haha On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 9:20 PM, riZer Enterprise rizerenterpr...@gmail.com wrote: -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- $ uname -a NetBSD 5.0.2 NetBSD 5.0.2 (GENERIC) #0: Sat Feb 6 17:53:27 UTC 2010 bui...@b7.netbsd.org:/home/builds/ab/netbsd-5-0-2-RELEASE/i386/201002061851Z-obj/home/builds/ab/netbsd-5-0-2-RELEASE/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC i386 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
Re: [osdcmy-public] Re: Malaysia Python User Group - Python.my
Try post the Q to www.python.org.my. during working hour is really a killer remark... huhu On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 3:46 PM, hidz...@gmail.com wrote: Nampak gaya x boleh join.. Sebab belum ada anak lg.. Ahaksss Sent by DiGi from my BlackBerry® Smartphone -Original Message- From: Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 15:27:55 To: osdcmy-listosdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Subject: [osdcmy-public] Re: Malaysia Python User Group - Python.my Snake Wrangling for Kids http://www.briggs.net.nz/log/writing/snake-wrangling-for-kids/ “Snake Wrangling for Kids” is a printable electronic book, for children 8 years and older, who would like to learn computer programming. It covers the very basics of programming, and uses the Python 3 programming language to teach the concepts. On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Team, OSS community of the day Python.my http://python.my/ This not animal right group for protection of snake ... Hehehe... Python runs on almost all modern OS and have been proven to be one of the most productive programming language around town. Python have been successfully used in all areas of development ranging from games, web portals, system applications, hacking and is even the educational sector as the choice language for learning programming. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy-public] Re: PHP Malaysia Meetup 2011 : Framework Shootout
I'll be there to cheer for Django :P On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 8:56 AM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: On 2/18/11 8:47 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote: i will be attending. where Raja goes, i go too :) . -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy] Do CS need maths
I'm not formally trained on CS. All my programming knowledge is self taught. So this is my opinion. Programming is not solely an art. It's both art and science. I experienced countless of times where knowing maths would be extremely useful. While it's true that you can program something without any understanding of math but I learned the hard way that to implement something efficiently and of high quality you still need maths. I once created a middleware that helped to bridge between a system with Hylafax which I needed to write a scheduler to poll fax status from Hylafax. My first implementation was straight forward, without any thought of mathematical model. It worked but it ate up resources needlessly. Though it didn't give any problem but it's not elegant because it wasted on computing resource which I might need in the future. Eventually I managed to find a mathematical model to implement a good scheduler - yes! math to the rescue. Still not buying on the importance of math? Consider yourself doing programming and need to choose a data structure. Without good math understanding how can you decide which data structure would be best on a given program? Want to analyse your newly and cool algorithm? Who you gonna call? Math, of course. Even when you code bussiness app, your business logic is basically a representation of mathematical model. Not to discourage new programmer, you can still code with knowing math in depth. But, IMHO as you progress into a more competent programmer you better catch up with math again. It certainly helps. Math has helped me, I'm sure it's useful to others too. On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: We really need math in CS. They way Computer engineers and software developers think are like mathematician. All are numbers. We codes in 1 and 0. if then else. all can be calculate and formula can be created. and one thing. Computer programming is an art :) On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 11:40 AM, sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com wrote: http://ocirs.com/2011/03/11/computer-science-education-and-math/ based on this article. Actually I kinda agree with the author. It depends on the goal, if aim for research YES, if for industry, maybe no what you guys think -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy] SisPA: PHPSQL vs ORACLE
Lazy query vs greedy query perhaps. People in FOSS are usually lazy, hence make use of lazy query. Vendors are usually greedy and hence make use of greedy query :) 2011/3/13 Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan sharuzza...@gmail.com masalah macam ni biasanya bukan pada database, tetapi pada cara sistem tersebut diprogramkan. bila program mula-mula direka, biasanya orang tak ambik kisah dengan jumlah pengguna, dan macam mana sistem tersebut perlu membaca data. sebagai contoh, kalau asalnya programkan untuk negeri Perak, bila query sekolah, sistem akan baca semua sekolah yang ada di Perak. masih ok lagi sebab sekolah kat perak berapa banyak la sangat. ada 10 daerah, katakan dalam satu daerah ada 20 buah sekolah menengah, sistem akan senaraikan 200 sekolah. tapi bila sistem yang sama digunakan diseluruh malaysia, dan sistem perlu menyenaraikan semua sekolah dimalaysia. berapa banyak tu? mengikut portal MOE, ada 2,248 . banyak tu. isu yang sama berlaku bila senaraikan nama pelajar. ada 2,344,891 murid sekolah menengah di malaysia jadi, isu kat sini bukan database. isu kat sini macam mana data dibaca dan ditulis. dan juga macam mana data disusun. tukar kepada oracle pun nanti, hasilnya sama juga, 2011/3/13 cikgu ayob ayob.alham...@gmail.com link web : http://diari.mypendidik.net/?p=552#more-552 SisPA akan beralih engine ke Oracle ! Yep… nie le kisahnya apabila Group Budak SisPA kena ngadap NKRA di Putrajaya minggu lepas. Perubahan nie terpaksa dilakukan setelah menjalankan Strees Test terhadap Dbase SisPA yang digunapakai sekarang. Time Spent [ms] Error apabila klik user mencecah 200+ ke atas di bahagian Edit Markah Pelajar. Huhu… jangan le marah bang. Aku tahu, ramai Penyelaras Peperiksaan Peringkat Sekolah hangin semacam je bila terpaksa tunggu 8-10 jam masa submit markah untuk 1 kelas hehe…!! Apa boleh buat, SisPA asalnya untuk Perak, kini dah nak digunapakai di Peringkat Kebangsaan. Mak aih… lagi le power engine nak kena pakai. Jadi untuk atasi masalah yang ada, pihak KPM telah memperuntukkan Oracle sebagai Pangkalan Data khas buat SisPA. Desas desus dalam 4 juta jugak peruntukan yang disediakan untuk Oracle tu. Entah… Wallahualam..!! link ke sispa : http://saps.moe.gov.my/ Ini berkaitan dengan memasukkan markah secara online untuk ujian rasmi dan peperiksaan di sekolah. Selain itu, untuk mendapatkan analisis markah untuk kehendak pejabat pelajaran daerah dan jabatan pelajaran negeri. Untuk setakat ini, sispa diuji untuk negeri perak sahaja. Itupun..dah cukup mengecewakan.. Mohon...kawan2 mencadangkan...apa yang terbaik untuk menyelesaikan masalah ini.. Terima..kasih.. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011
Re: [osdcmy] question on yes wimax dongle and ubuntu
Yes usb dongle definitely not working under all flavor of Linux because there is no driver for the device. It was reported there will be one for android, but I won't put my hopes too high on this. If you have Windows/OSX on a VM, perhaps you can still use the dongle. Otherwise your only option is to hack a (userland?) driver yourself. On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: tried the huddle before. it works. just like wifi connection. planning to buy the buzz phone for myself (connects via usb) and the go dongle for the wife's pc (no wifi). two devices can share same account ;-) if the dongle dont work for ubuntu, then for the huddle, is there a usb / lan connection ? On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 9:48 PM, zarul shahrin zarulshah...@gmail.comwrote: Not sure about the Dongle, but you don't need driver for the Huddle (which I am using). On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com wrote: so far I know, there still no update on availability using yes on any linux distribution, even the sales person at KL Sentral told me, except for home package with that big black yes modem. perhaps who has yes dongle can borrow me for a while, I can try to find the driver :p On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: dear all anyone able to connect using yes wimax dongle on ubuntu ? planning to switch to yes, coz maxis bb / celcom bb at putrajaya is often congested / slow / dropped -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 -- Muhd Syazwan @ jipang_menjerit http://about.me/syazwan/bio http://blog.ubuntuseekers.com http://blog.syazwan.co.cc jipangmenje...@gmail.com jipang_menje...@ubuntuseekers.com One Online Radio :: Radio yang Suka Bercakap http://radio.syazwan.co.cc -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011
Re: [osdcmy] question on yes wimax dongle and ubuntu
The new Samsung phone for Yes is definitely not on Android. I just got a test phone on Saturday. I've yet to try to use the phone as a modem on linux. Hopefully I have the time to test that kinda setup today. On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 10:36 PM, fenris mohdfen...@gmail.com wrote: nanti sy cuba .. sbb staff sy ade subscribe .. usb dongle on mac osx ok jerk sbb dia ade installer ... On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Haris bin Ali ha...@qedx.com wrote: Rumours are that they will bring in an Android phone. Hopefully that should be tetherable, not to mention rootable heh haris bin ali http://qedx.com Screw the environment. Please print this email immediately. And then burn it. On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 9:51 PM, joshuatly joshua...@gmail.com wrote: I'm using huddle too. My only complain for yes4g is their coverage. No coverage in my hostel (appartment) and poor and spotty coverage in my college. Joshuatly Tee Lien Yu Sent from my HTC Desire Z. On Mar 20, 2011 9:31 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: ok have just signed up for yes, wimax, from the yes centre at kl sentral. i am using the huddle, where the computers can connect via wifi only (the usb cable is only for charging). now connected with ubuntu 10.04 nbr. paid for the rm1199 package using the 0% installment (rm50 over 24 months). this gives the huddle for 'free' with rm800 credit. converting the credit to value pack will give me 5x 10GB. running speedtest.net from presint 9 putrajaya gives me 4.5mbps download and 1.5mbps upload. so much better than maxis. the go dongle does not work with linux. according to the sales rep, the buzz hphone doesnt work with linux ;-( . unfortunately, i did not bring my netbook to test this out. considering that i can connect to the internet with my 'oldie' 3g phone, then i would think it is technically possible. but the sales rep did mention that there will be another model coming out (not sure when), so will wait for that. by the way, with 1 account, can have up to three devices using that account. oppss... just did a retest on speedtest.net, this time got 5.7mbps download and 1.8mbps upload. On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 8:31 AM, E A Faisal eafai...@gmail.com wrote: Yes usb dongle definitely not working under all flavor of Linux because there is no driver for the device. It was reported there will be one for android, but I won't put my hopes too high on this. If you have Windows/OSX on a VM, perhaps you can still use the dongle. Otherwise your only option is to hack a (userland?) driver yourself. On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: tried the huddle before. it works. just like wifi connection. planning to buy the buzz phone for myself (connects via usb) and the go dongle for the wife's pc (no wifi). two devices can share same account ;-) if the dongle dont work for ubuntu, then for the huddle, is there a usb / lan connection ? On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 9:48 PM, zarul shahrin zarulshah...@gmail.comwrote: Not sure about the Dongle, but you don't need driver for the Huddle (which I am using). On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com wrote: so far I know, there still no update on availability using yes on any linux distribution, even the sales person at KL Sentral told me, except for home package with that big black yes modem. perhaps who has yes dongle can borrow me for a while, I can try to find the driver :p On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: dear all anyone able to connect using yes wimax dongle on ubuntu ? planning to switch to yes, coz maxis bb / celcom bb at putrajaya is often congested / slow / dropped -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Hari Terbuka 2011 pada 24-26 Mac 2011
25th got python meetup On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 3:53 PM, sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com wrote: 26 is the distro workshop, 25 is a friday, working bro, and yes thats a problem On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 3:47 PM, sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com wrote: 25 is the distro workshop. That's the problem On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys! I just been inform by Pn. Suzita (UKM) about open day which I stated at the subject above. So, she contact me for recruit some numbers of community members joining forces as promotional team like we've done last year (if I not mistaken). We only needed for 25th and 26th March 2011. Because I'm not really quite free at that time, is there others who would like to join them? Just let me know. Thanks :) -- Muhd Syazwan @ jipang_menjerit http://about.me/syazwan/bio http://blog.ubuntuseekers.com http://blog.syazwan.co.cc jipangmenje...@gmail.com jipang_menje...@ubuntuseekers.com One Online Radio :: Radio yang Suka Bercakap http://radio.syazwan.co.cc -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- Muhd Syazwan @ jipang_menjerit http://about.me/syazwan/bio http://blog.ubuntuseekers.com http://blog.syazwan.co.cc jipangmenje...@gmail.com jipang_menje...@ubuntuseekers.com One Online Radio :: Radio yang Suka Bercakap http://radio.syazwan.co.cc -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server
with RM50 mil, Tricube can be saved from delisting from Bursa Malaysia. ooopss, is this confidential information? On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 4:23 AM, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote: hi all, Well, Fazli brought up a good point, maybe, becase no one else proposed such a solution, and TriCubes did, therefore they got it. (I'll come back to this point.. in another mail) but duhh!, is it that easy? Then I've got 1/2 dozen proposals for 50m each, who do I submit them to? Whatever is said, yes tricubes may foot the initial development costs, but if the gov is using it and paying for it, then tax-payers money is involved. If that is the case, was due-deligence done? How? Here, http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/4/20/nation/20110420155327sec=nation#13033084438331if_height=583 it says Proposals submitted are assessed by Entry Point Project (EPP) teams, to ensure only sustainable and implementable business models, are supported. In this case, the team for the e-government EPP comprised MAMPU and GITN Sdn Bhd. Every proposal is assessed on similar criteria. hmm... they must be technically competent. The justification it seems: Currently, most Malaysians use non-secured public e-mail e.g. yahoo, hotmail, gmail (hosted overseas) in their communications with the government. Well, there's this little piece of FLOSS called PGP (Pretty Good Privacy). And developing a plugin that works with PGP for a mail-agent like thunderbird or web-mail would have been much easier. Also I believe MiMOS has this thing called DigiCert, they are a Certificate Authority, yes? But without discussing the technical issues(? we are geeks right?), the concept of email is so yesterday. If you want to foster better relationship between gov and the rakyat, and foster community, a much better type of solution would be a 'FaceBook' with Twitter clone! And things like Diaspora, Wave in a Box (formerly GoogleWave) are FLOSS tools that are available. It would be an interesting collaborative exercise: Work out a simple Specifications and Costing for such a project as mentioned in th article, using resources that we have within OSDC. Show how we can actually deliver this using FLOSS tools and at a fraction of the cost. Perhaps even more appealing would be to derive a methodology for doing such that it involves more people, perhaps using interns/trainees from institute of higher learning, in the project. That way, there is a wider transfer of technology (to more people) and also to grow the community. Use the project to develop skills and expertise, it could be part of soembody's MS/PhD thesis etc... In this case the means is as important as the end. The end is of course to deliver the stated objects, but with FLOSS, and the means is to build skills and a sustainable ecosystem. This ecossytem can then grow to become an industry, and I'm sure its returns will be much larger than the 150m?? return quoted by TriCubes. Four of the EPPs are under the Oil, Gas and Energy NKEA, three under Business Services, three under Greater Kuala Lumpur, two under Healthcare, two under Tourism, and one each under Education, Agriculture, Wholesale and Retail, Communications Content and Infrastructure, and Electrical and Electronics. On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Mohd Fazli Azran mfazliaz...@gmail.com wrote: I love malaysia. :) Many news and many people have their own way to thinking and give various feedback. Many people still confuse what ETP for. Please read what ETP for. I not worried about this 50m project because it not from our gov public fund but it from private fund. This project was propose by tricubes to gov to make 1malaysia email. Because we not propose anything to our gov, our community just love to voice, blame, flame war and talk and talk and give good idea and many suggestion but who want to execute and implement it? Who? Don't blame tricubes because they get endorse by our gov about the project but blame our self why until now we not yet publish or do something and propose to our gov that we can do also same like tricubes do. What we must do now is proposal and paperwork and sent to our gov. We have many agency that we can propose like mimos, tpm, mdec, mampu, mcmc, intan, unik, miti, smidec, smecorp, terajun, pemandu and others. If we want beat tricubes we need to be like them too. We have many various level people in this group and of course many geek too and until now we still not unite and still talk behind each others and curse each others. If we done like above and we have the right voice to consult our gov why must use this and this. We done our part and then we have a right to blame our gov heheheh. Until now we not do like that as community but many people done but only for individually. So we are no where because we not voice as one. As above topic project maybe some one are
Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server
My concern is the phrase secure communication with the government. The MX record clearly shows it points to the data center in the US. From national security standpoint, this is very so insecure. On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: yes, i believe the article has highlighted a very important opportunity moving forward - the implementation of cyber id authentication for malaysia. imagine the potential - register once and use the id to access all the participating govt agencies (no need to register). example : dbkl / tnb / ptptn send me my bill / statement through the email. in the statement there is a button Bayar, and when i click on it, my browser displays the login page for the agency, i login with myemail.my id and password, then can pay for the bill. that will save me and the agencies a whole lot of hassle just to maintain usernames / accounts / passwords for the hundreds of agencies. now we will have a platform to implement 'single sign-on' we had myeg, rileks which acted as single portal to govt agencies - but this worked on a centralised portal concept. with a single sign-on, we can have a distributed concept. so now the opportunity are for 1. web developers among us, to figure out how to make our portals / web apps to work with this myemail id. 2. os developers among us, to figure out how to make windows live id to work on non-windows client machines see example for drupal : http://drupal.org/project/winliveid this single sign-on would be great for one of my past clients, where we had to request guests to register, then someone in the agency to check that the information is valid before approving the registration, then we also had to have features like recalling lost password / etc. with myemail.my, we could just ask them to logon using their current id, and we could have that automatically authenticated. no need to re-register and try to remember the password for so many websites. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server
Dear Mr Pemandu Director, sir, are you on crack or somethin'? On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote: sorry, I wrote this some time back, but it got stuck in my outbox, or rather drafts... but the arguments are still valid. BTW, in yesterdays TheStar, Idris Jala head of PEMANDU came out with a full 2-page 'expalnation' for the 1Malaysia email... more updates on triCubes http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/4/22/business/8530788sec=business There are comments made by Pemandu Director: Dr Fadhlullah Suhaimi Abdul Malek which is 'interesting' and deserve some comments... quote For example, the Road Transport Department sends out (via snail mail) about two million summonses and notifications yearly that cost them about RM1 just to send out and another RM1 if the receiver replied. Tricubes offers 50 sen for the transaction. Just imagine how much of taxpayers' money we can save. But the agencies have the right to decline the services offered,” /quote ...50c that's a healthy profit considering the cost of pushing bits down the wire is next to nothing... comparing to transporting pieces of paper. Obviously the party that loses out will be Pos Malaysia (PM). But then again, if the costs/revenue goes to PM, since its tax-payers money, it stays within the gov. and goes to pay salaries for civil servants etc... With Tricubes, it goes into private sector pockets... why should my tax dollars do that? Is Tricubes gonna grow the industry? Well this deal certainly saved their butt with the Stock Exchange! quote Tricubes is the only company that is publicly listed and our evaluation team has a set of criteria based on techonology, know- how and past performance,” he said. /quote Hmm, technology? Tricubes from what I can gather has little knowhow on managing large servers and services. Their core business is on mobile terminals (with smart card readers etc...), and they have a USB device that reads fingerprints, ... So maybe that's why they 'outsource' to MS Hotmail As Marcus, from InternetNow mentioned, they have a made in Malaysia Mail Server, that can compete against the likes of MS Xchange, but they were not called to tender?! So to say Technology was a criteria for the decision by PEMANDU is definitely a bit of a stretch... from my perspective, or for the average person on this list. quote The main difference is that your identity data is authenticated by the (NRD)National Registration Department that will give accurate information on the email. This is actually good for advertisers that usually rely on gender and age group to promote specific products,” he said, adding that personal data of the users, as usual, would be protected by Personal Data Protection Act. /quote If this is the case, does it mean that other service providers can also use NRD to provide authentification service? As NRD is a gov. agency, it should provide equal services to all parties, no? Off course subject to the regulations etc... And if NRD is not providing this as a service, perhaps they should! The second para is a bit worrying... does it mean that Tricubes will use or resell our NRD data! Are we gonna get spam from TriCubes? There was also a few issues raised in earlier posts which are very relevant: Colin Charles mentioned..., yes there is a need for a national Digital ID service (but Tricubes in all their announcements never positioned themselves this way), ie: a Malaysian OpenID service and the like. This will prevent fraud, provide authentification ad authorisation for eGov and other online services, a boon to eCommerce etc... BUT there is no mention that Tricubes is doing this. If there is to be a National Digital ID service, then the obvious party to do this would be the National Registration Department, after all they are the ones that issue our NRIC cards! And if anyone were to do this, there is no need to spend 10's millions to develop new technology, the OpenID foundation provides the protocol standards and libraries to do this... just build on them. And they are keen to work with governments. On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 1:02 AM, E A Faisal eafai...@gmail.com wrote: My concern is the phrase secure communication with the government. The MX record clearly shows it points to the data center in the US. From national security standpoint, this is very so insecure. On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: yes, i believe the article has highlighted a very important opportunity moving forward - the implementation of cyber id authentication for malaysia. imagine the potential - register once and use the id to access all the participating govt agencies (no need to register). example : dbkl / tnb / ptptn send me my bill / statement through the email
Re: [osdcmy] Python sprint
Someone with videocam, can you pls record the session. I really want to attend but I can't make it. On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 9:53 AM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: On 5/11/11 9:40 AM, sweemeng ng wrote: Please come I wish to know how the java community do it too My interest is that i have setup Fitnesse testing which works with our ADempiere Java code and the next step is to port it onto Jenkins build server, but i guess that takes a few steps and hopefully i can pick up some vital starters from your session. I trust the Python layer maybe some manager interface layer away from the food, i mean code. Otherwise we already have JSR223 scripting oven for our column callout for any DB model within. Will google for Inigo Subang Jaya location :) -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Re: Hari ICT PTM UKM 2011
Any number to call, in case I can drop by and help. 2011/7/14 Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com Assalamualaikum dan salam sejahtera, Nampaknya Saya dan Shukri sahaja akan membantu di UKM. Jika ada lagi yang berminat sila isi borang disini http://goo.gl/alXRQ Terima kasih. On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 5:51 PM, saiful akusai...@gmail.com wrote: kalau half day aku rasa dia bagi sijil separuh je kut :) 2011/7/13 Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com Salam OK boleh. Nanti report duty kepada En. Shukri. Terima kasih. On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 4:50 PM, riZer Enterprise rizerenterpr...@gmail.com wrote: tuan haris insyaallah saya pun nak join jugak saya akan isi form tu sebentar lagi harap terima Azhar 2011/7/12 Soire Meira soire...@gmail.com Ok.. xde masalah insyaallah sy sampai :P 2011/7/12 Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com Team New link for the online registration form http://goo.gl/alXRQ Thanks. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information Malaysia Open Source Conference 2011 MOSC2011 http://blog.mosc.my/ and http://www.mosc.my/ Malaysia Open Source Conference 2012 MOSC2012 http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information Malaysia Open Source Conference 2011 MOSC2011 http://blog.mosc.my/ and http://www.mosc.my/ Malaysia Open Source Conference 2012 MOSC2012 http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Re: Status Semasa Penubuhan Koperasi
how do i check whether my name is in the list or not? On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 3:05 PM, aziman noor azi...@gmail.com wrote: i think can but pls put only the name and email. others data make private. thanks. On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: jacob. can you pls fill in this form again https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?hl=en_USformkey=dHNfc2xma1JGSkw5MHZEcFJ4Vy0zb0E6MQ#gid=0 sorry, i have seen your name in a previous list, but somehow in this list, it is missing. all.. can i list the names at wiki.kostem.my just so that people can check whether their names are already included ? 2011/7/26 Jacob Thomas jthoma...@gmail.com Hi Raja, I thought I did submit my name sometime ago - pls help to check. If not there, pls include me under Selangor. thanks regards Jacob On Jul 23, 12:19 pm, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: Salam hormat pada semua Buat masa ini cadang koperasi ini telah mendaftarkan minat dari 75 orang (dan masih lagi ada yang mendaftar bulan ini) mengikut pecahan negeri seperti berikut: SUMMARY COUNT Perlis 0 Kedah 4 Pulau Pinang 1 Perak 4 Selangor 28 Negeri Sembilan 4 Melaka 4 Johor 4 Pahang 5 Terengganu 4 Kelantan 8 Sabah 1 Sarawak 2 Wilayah 6 TOTAL 75 Bagi memenuhi syarat Suruhanjaya Koperasi Malaysia (SKM), kita perlu untuk minima 50 orang untuk mendaftarkan koperasi di negeri berkenaan. Kami memerlukan bantuan anda untuk menghebahkan berkaitan Koperasi Sumber Terbuka ini supaya penubuhan ini dapat di buat. Permohonan untuk penubuhan koperasi sangat mudah boleh dibuat secara online dan keputusan dibuat dalam masa 14 hari oleh SKM. Kita cuma perlu 50 org dalam 1 negeri untuk mulakan. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information Malaysia Open Source Conference 2011 MOSC2011 http://blog.mosc.my/ and http://www.mosc.my/ Malaysia Open Source Conference 2012 MOSC2012 http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information Malaysia Open Source Conference 2011 MOSC2011 http://blog.mosc.my/ and http://www.mosc.my/ Malaysia Open Source Conference 2012 MOSC2012 http://portal.mosc.my/ -- *Komuniti As-Salam* http://www.salamsentosa.com http://aziman.salamsentosa.com -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information Malaysia Open Source Conference 2011 MOSC2011 http://blog.mosc.my/ and http://www.mosc.my/ Malaysia Open Source Conference 2012 MOSC2012 http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook http://www.facebook.com/groups/osdcmalaysia/ Malaysia Open Source Conference 2012 MOSC2012 http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] What Programming Language you start with? The one youlearn the logic and flow of programming
s/mIRC/ircII/g On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 12:38 PM, sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com wrote: More of a concern of what happen since then in Malaysia. Not expecting school to teach everything. My experience on CS education in Malaysia on the other hand, is the same as the opinions on many post on such a topic in OSDC.my list. The only issue with education here is, probably in many other place too. Is that we don't teach how to learn, On Jul 31, 2011 12:56 PM, Ghodmode ghodm...@ghodmode.com wrote: On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 12:05 PM, sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com wrote: Make me wonder what happen with Computer Education in Malaysia Do you think it's a problem with Computer Education in Malaysia? I think it's a benefit of the IT field, and programming specifically. My reason for working in IT is that I must always continue learning. It keeps it interesting. I don't think schools could keep up anyway. It's the same in the US. Schools can't keep up with trends in programming. If they tried, it would be an unstable curriculum, changing course materials every semester. -- Ghodmode http://www.ghodmode.com/blog -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook http://www.facebook.com/groups/osdcmalaysia/ Malaysia Open Source Conference 2012 MOSC2012 http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook http://www.facebook.com/groups/osdcmalaysia/ Malaysia Open Source Conference 2012 MOSC2012 http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook http://www.facebook.com/groups/osdcmalaysia/ Malaysia Open Source Conference 2012 MOSC2012 http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Fwd: Permohonan Penubuhan Koperasi
what's next? 2011/10/6 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com KOSTEM dah ok..cuma letak dalam kurungan selangor atau S je dah cukup 2011/10/5 Mohamad Imran imtym@gmail.com 2011/10/4, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Mohamad Imran imtym@gmail.com wrote: Also need to rebranding all the stuff, wiki, FB, logo.. tak perlu rebranding, yang sedia ada pun dah cukup baik dah Maksud aku logo, dan segala yang berkaitan dengan nama KOSTEM. Nak kena cari akronim baru. -- Aku Tetap Aku™ http://about.me/MakLaN -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook http://www.facebook.com/groups/osdcmalaysia/ Malaysia Open Source Conference 2012 MOSC2012 http://portal.mosc.my/ -- Muhd Syazwan @ jipang_menjerit http://about.me/syazwan/bio http://blog.ubuntuseekers.com http://blog.syazwan.co.cc jipangmenje...@gmail.com jipang_menje...@ubuntuseekers.com One Online Radio :: Radio yang Suka Bercakap http://radio.syazwan.co.cc -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook http://www.facebook.com/groups/osdcmalaysia/ Malaysia Open Source Conference 2012 MOSC2012 http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook http://www.facebook.com/groups/osdcmalaysia/ Malaysia Open Source Conference 2012 MOSC2012 http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Re: JEMPUTAN SEBAGAI PEMBENTANG DI SESI EKSKLUSIF CIO - BENGKEL SELF RELIANCE PROGRAM OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARE (OSS) SEKTOR AWAM FASA III - SIRI 3
I like the infra part. Many of us are 'researchers' who just dont have big enough pocket. If only there's some kind of 'public campus' for us to use without having breaking arms and legs. For instance I'm particularly interested to test and expand some ideas on immunological cloud infra (since Boh uses health as example). On Jul 31, 2012 6:12 PM, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote: hi all, Firstly, I apologise for coming into this late, have not been following OSDC list much lately, work... then Red1 pulled me into this. So gathering some facts from above, here is my rant. 1. Centralized IT Need to rethink, centralization offers benefits like economies of scale, standardisation, leveraging/creating pools of expertise (building ecosystems)... But this has got to be different from the mainframe era, with big vendors, technology lock-in, proprietry standards and hardware... What the 'New Centralization' should be; it should leverage the latest technology, cloud based computing, ubiqious mobile devices, prevalent broadband internet. Why? Centralising computing much as you would cemtralise utillities, like water, power etc... Such utillities are considered infrastructure, essential for economic development. Much as our current current economic strength was due to the foresight of earlier government to spend on developing the physical infrastructue of roads, ports, power, water... which in turn attracted DFI (direct foreign investment) which inturn led to our economic prosperity. That was phase 1, which was essentially emphasizing on 'hardware' or physical infra. Phase 2: is about building 'Knowledge based' economy. The enablers for that is ICT infra, that would allow knowledge and services to 'flow' just as roads and ports allowed physical goods to flow. Hence computing resources - as represented by cloud-computing, broadband (wireless) telecommunications, mobile devices are the way to go. These, are still 'hard' infra, easy to build, just spend money and do a bit of planning. The development of the 'soft-assets' is more difficult, it includes fixing Education, and devloping ecosystems of IT expertise, SW development, mobile solutions, cloud-computer admins, network security... Then you need domain experts.. Easily available infra - leads to innovation A prominent Silicon Valley VC, in a talk, mentioned the low-cost of computing leads to the rapid growth of innovation and new start-up companies. He specifically mentioned the low-cost of PC/laptops and zero-cost of FOSS. But to deploy and beta-test a product, hosting costs are still high, particularly in Malaysia. Lowering hosting costs via cloud based infra, would lower costs further, leverage efficiencies for wider systems deployment and allow many more innovators to participate. Start-ups/innovators can quickly cheaply develop, test, deploy their prodctt. Cheaper startup costs allow more people to participate. There will be a faster cycle, from conception to success/failure. This leads to a more efficient Darwinian evolution, weeding out the weak, quickly. (note: failure itself is not a bad thing, it teaches valuable lessons that lead to success) Thus you build a healthy eco-system. How this will help government? -- I'll use a 'scenario' to illustrate: Min. of Health (it could be any other..) has a 'cloud' infra, based on OSS (e.g. OpenStack) and wants to explore some new solutions, computerization of the rapidly expanding 1Malaysa clinics... They put out a RFP with the following terms: - must use FOSS - code that's implemented/deployed must be open-sourced (not free, and IP rights belong to respective developers) - based on open API and standards, (for security and auhorization, for data storage for data interchange, medical standars...) - MOH to define the standards to use, requiremnts specs, performance specs, etc... They should not define tools, ie: what DB, what language... - teams that accept the RFP, to put up a beta/prototype on a server - infra will be provided, development servers/tools, test servers - all based on MOH-cloud (a small fee may be paid to development teams, or it can be made into a competition. 200-300k for such a fee for a few million $ project is not unreasonble. A junket trip arranged by vendors to 'tour' overseas facilities would easily cost 100k plus! Which the vendor already built into the final purchase price! ) What are the benefits: -- - create/breed a rich ecosystem of developers/innovators based on merits and capability - open competition, many teams compete - MOH gets to test and evaluate various products and picks the ones that are most suitable and works. - MOH can even
Re: [osdcmy] Something to be proud of - Facebook bought Malaysian talent
My view on MSC: it has never been about technology. It's more of a real estate project, something that helps to boost property industry, though short-lived. Sad but true. On Aug 15, 2012 6:08 PM, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote: MSC has been around close to 2 decades, and while we are still playing around as bureaucrats lets compare what other 'MSCs' are doing NICTA- National ICT Australia, started in 2002, officially opened in 2004. One of their 'subsidiaries' is ERTOS, a RD facility. They developed a microkernel OS, based on L4, a second generation microkernel architecture, with some relation to GNU's HURD project... On this they built a secure, verifiable embedded OS, (see the cool stuff they work on... http://ertos.nicta.com.au/software/) ERTOS spun off Open Kernel Labs (became a commercial entity), and has another L4 uKernel OS called OKL4, which can be used as a hypervisor for virtualisation or run standalone as a embedded OS. Already licensed by Motorola and Qualcomm (a manf. of chips used in mobile phones) on millions of phones! OKL4 has been deployed on over 300 million devices, mostly mobile phones, both as a baseband operating system and for hosting guest operating systems. Most notable and visible is the company's design win at Motorola for the Evoke QA4 messaging phone, the first phone which employs virtualization to support two concurrent operating systems (Linux and BREW) on a single processor core. OK Labs and OKL4 are the result of collaboration among academia, business, and open-source development. They also ported Android onto the L4 microkernel... http://www.ertos.nicta.com.au/software/androidokl4/ Done my a student as a undergrd thesis! See, their Comp Sc students do real suff, not study to pass a MS or CisCO cert!? Now, that's doing real technology! And look at the ppl leading the organisation: (definitely not bureaucrats!) http://www.nicta.com.au/about/management (count the PHd's there...) And they don't need no stinking NCPB! On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 6:47 AM, sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com wrote: Don't forget the recent evidence act, and a proposal to amend the multimedia act. I think they are scaring away investor for the IT sector! Especially the way certain minister talk On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote: question? do those who are supposed to lead/guide us in Technology, really understand/promote technology, or they are more like bureaucrats? answer: they seem to be spending more effort in bureaucracy, than on technology.. re: the NCPB. On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 11:02 AM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: Question is does MOSTI or name of agencies withheld know this? The best web-scrapers (not that i know what it means) in the world were living in Malaysia and Facebook spotted them and bought them as the 3rd FB aquisition. This explains our index rankings of late. On 8/10/12 10:22 AM, Azrul MADISA wrote: This is 2010? On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 10:15 AM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: That Facebook bought a Malaysian startup in 2010 just to get those brains in that company? http://techcrunch.com/2010/02/19/octazen-what-the-heck-did-facebook-just-buy-exactly-and-why/ This makes me so proud. red1 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook http://www.facebook.com/groups/osdcmalaysia/ Malaysia Open Source Conference 2012 MOSC2012 http://portal.mosc.my/ -- #--- regds, Boh Heong, Yap -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook http://www.facebook.com/groups/osdcmalaysia/ Malaysia Open Source Conference 2012 MOSC2012 http://portal.mosc.my/ -- Just a random living organic computer code generator -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook http://www.facebook.com/groups/osdcmalaysia/ Malaysia Open Source Conference 2012 MOSC2012 http://portal.mosc.my/ -- #--- regds, Boh Heong, Yap -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook http://www.facebook.com/groups/osdcmalaysia/ Malaysia Open Source Conference 2012 MOSC2012 http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook http://www.facebook.com/groups/osdcmalaysia/ Malaysia Open Source Conference 2012 MOSC2012 http://portal.mosc.my/
