Re: [otlkcon-devel] Open Connector Project Status Re: OTLK-CON Project Status?
Hello Darrell, To prevent development from slowing to an absolute crawl at times when I get stuck or too busy I pass issues to contractors. This is not a regular occurrence but still my biggest out-of-pocket expense related to the project. I'd actually like to do this more often to get things done faster. Also, it seems that we will have to start working with Microsoft support in the near future. I haven't had to do this in the past but things are settling down and the more difficult compatibility problems remain. An MS incident is about $250 each I believe. None of this would be needed if we had a few capable volunteer developers though. But I'm not holding my breath at this point :) Though for the project to become a viable Open Source project, we will have to find a way to attract those volunteers. I honestly do not know why we have done so badly in this area. But for the almost 4 years of existence as a Sourceforge project we have attracted 3 developer contributions outside my own. Unpaid developer work probably adds up to about 200 lines of code. Excluding external projects but including rewrites Open Connector has definitely had 10+ _thousand_ lines of code written. Most likely a lot more, haven't checked. Is there something in particular that makes that project unattractive to get into? So to see this project to completion I'd say choose one of those in that order... 1. Volunteer development time if you have the relevant background. 2. Bribe, blackmail or otherwise convince someone with that skill- set to help out with the project :) 3. Consider donating any amount to the project to offset expenses. To give an idea of the work needed... Most estimates and accounts I've received suggest that an Outlook connector project requires 3-6 full- time developers 6-12 months to complete. Also, that is considering that they do not write the entire project from scratch. We are writing from scratch given that the code is LGPL. The upside is though that we already have a working connector. But there is still work to get it to finished and optimized. Best regards, Kervin --- Darrell McGuire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kervin- > > You mention "...access to funds..." give me some > perspective if you > would please as to what amounts of money might be > helpful/relevant to > different tasks. If someone can throw in a couple > hundred here and > there is that actually useful, or are you only > talking about relevant > amounts only being in the thousands or tens of > thousands of dollars? > > Thanks, >Darrell McGuire >Pegasys Computer Technologies, Inc. > > Kervin L. Pierre wrote: > > >Hello Marc, > > > >Thanks for the feedback. > > > >That bug has been fixed in the current > >version. Please try Milestone 2 when > >that comes out. Thanks. > > > >It's caused by a faulty check on my > >part. Your configuration settings are > >ok, but the file check fails due to > >locking. > > > >Best regards, > >Kervin > > > >--- Marc Boschma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > >>Hi, > >> > >>I installed the Alpha connector and tried to > >>configure a file backed > >>account but I continually get "Please Configure an > >>Open Connector" > >> > >> > >> > >>>How do I get started? > >>> > >>> > >>Marc > >> > >>On 27/09/2006, at 1:21 AM, Kervin L. Pierre wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>Hello, > >>> > >>>Thanks for your continued interest in Outlook > >>>Connector. > >>> > >>>Yes we have been taking our time on this one > >>>haven't we :) > >>> > >>>The project is moving forward though. I am > >>>hoping that stable, functioning betas will > >>>attract new resources to the project in the > >>>future. But as you've suspected, as of now, > >>>resources are very limited. > >>> > >>>Quick status > >>>1. MAPI Message Storage Provider and MAPI > >>> Transport provider both work. There hasn't > >>> been _any_ performance optimization on those > >>> yet, so expect a first run of >3mins and > >>> subsequent startups may take that long as > >>> well. Performance optimization is scheduled > >>> for last. But the core functionality for > >>> adding/deleting/modifying CalDAV events on > >>> CalDAV servers work and have been tested > >>> on Cosmo [ http://cosmo.osafoundation.org ] > >>> and Oracle CalDAV [ not released as yet ]. > >>> > >>>2. The final major component left for > >>> development, The address book provider is > >>> being worked on. This where I've been > >>> spending my dev time lately. This will will > >>> allow the sharing of individual calendars. > >>> I estimate this component can be in Beta > >>> with a solid month on development; but that > >>> depends on our our other/paid projects are > >>> going. > >>> > >>>3. Working on getting Bedework CalDAV > >>> [ http://bedework.org ] support done. > >>> > >>>4. The MS2 is 'Milestone 2'. The current > >>> build on sourceforge is 'Milestone 1'. > >>> That was th
Re: [otlkcon-devel] Open Connector Project Status Re: OTLK-CON Project Status?
Kervin- You mention "...access to funds..." give me some perspective if you would please as to what amounts of money might be helpful/relevant to different tasks. If someone can throw in a couple hundred here and there is that actually useful, or are you only talking about relevant amounts only being in the thousands or tens of thousands of dollars? Thanks, Darrell McGuire Pegasys Computer Technologies, Inc. Kervin L. Pierre wrote: >Hello Marc, > >Thanks for the feedback. > >That bug has been fixed in the current >version. Please try Milestone 2 when >that comes out. Thanks. > >It's caused by a faulty check on my >part. Your configuration settings are >ok, but the file check fails due to >locking. > >Best regards, >Kervin > >--- Marc Boschma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>Hi, >> >>I installed the Alpha connector and tried to >>configure a file backed >>account but I continually get "Please Configure an >>Open Connector" >> >> >> >>>How do I get started? >>> >>> >>Marc >> >>On 27/09/2006, at 1:21 AM, Kervin L. Pierre wrote: >> >> >> >>>Hello, >>> >>>Thanks for your continued interest in Outlook >>>Connector. >>> >>>Yes we have been taking our time on this one >>>haven't we :) >>> >>>The project is moving forward though. I am >>>hoping that stable, functioning betas will >>>attract new resources to the project in the >>>future. But as you've suspected, as of now, >>>resources are very limited. >>> >>>Quick status >>>1. MAPI Message Storage Provider and MAPI >>> Transport provider both work. There hasn't >>> been _any_ performance optimization on those >>> yet, so expect a first run of >3mins and >>> subsequent startups may take that long as >>> well. Performance optimization is scheduled >>> for last. But the core functionality for >>> adding/deleting/modifying CalDAV events on >>> CalDAV servers work and have been tested >>> on Cosmo [ http://cosmo.osafoundation.org ] >>> and Oracle CalDAV [ not released as yet ]. >>> >>>2. The final major component left for >>> development, The address book provider is >>> being worked on. This where I've been >>> spending my dev time lately. This will will >>> allow the sharing of individual calendars. >>> I estimate this component can be in Beta >>> with a solid month on development; but that >>> depends on our our other/paid projects are >>> going. >>> >>>3. Working on getting Bedework CalDAV >>> [ http://bedework.org ] support done. >>> >>>4. The MS2 is 'Milestone 2'. The current >>> build on sourceforge is 'Milestone 1'. >>> That was the first 'release' build of the >>> project that would actually do something >>> useful. It will add/modify/delete CalDAV >>> events on a CalDAV server. MS2 fixes a >>> few annoying bugs so that users can test >>> individual calendars a bit more. It also >>> introduces a new refactored set of >>> objects in the two providers, and a stub >>> provider for the adress book. I hope to >>> put this out by Wednesday, but as usual >>> things are being delayed by other >>> projects, so maybe this weekend instead. >>> As soon as it is verified that the recent >>> changes have not broken the CalDAV >>> protocol interaction with the supported >>> servers ( Bedework, Cosmo, Oracle ), it >>> will be released. >>> >>>After we have the address book provider working >>>I will focus on speed/memory optimization and >>>the random features that testers may require. >>> >>>The 3 month target is definitely doable. I'd >>>like it to be more like 2. But that's not 100% >>>up to me. Someone with very strong C++/Win32/ >>>COM experience and has access to the relevant >>>tools ( MSVC 2005, Outlook 2003 ) would make a >>>_huge_ difference if they put in a 5+ hrs/week >>> on this. Also access to funds to open tickets >>>with MS, get other consultants, offset time >>>expense would help as well. >>> >>>Best regards, >>>Kervin >>> >>> >>>--- Matthew Rubenstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> I've been following this project since 2005 (and occasionally before then). Since the 6/12/06 Alpha release, there has been no messaging on the list. But I do see that the SVN has much more activity, entirely by Kervin (as is practically all development for the length of the project). Now some source is "Ready for server testing, prior to MS2.", but I don't know what that means. Is this a one-man project, with basically only Kervin producing it? Has it stalled? Is there any chance that it will >>produce >> >> a releasable connector within the next 3-9 months running as >>it >> >> is currently? -- (C) Matthew Rubenstein >-- > > >>>--- >>> >>> Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of
Re: [otlkcon-devel] Open Connector Project Status Re: OTLK-CON Project Status?
Hello Marc, Thanks for the feedback. That bug has been fixed in the current version. Please try Milestone 2 when that comes out. Thanks. It's caused by a faulty check on my part. Your configuration settings are ok, but the file check fails due to locking. Best regards, Kervin --- Marc Boschma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I installed the Alpha connector and tried to > configure a file backed > account but I continually get "Please Configure an > Open Connector" > > > How do I get started? > > Marc > > On 27/09/2006, at 1:21 AM, Kervin L. Pierre wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > Thanks for your continued interest in Outlook > > Connector. > > > > Yes we have been taking our time on this one > > haven't we :) > > > > The project is moving forward though. I am > > hoping that stable, functioning betas will > > attract new resources to the project in the > > future. But as you've suspected, as of now, > > resources are very limited. > > > > Quick status > > 1. MAPI Message Storage Provider and MAPI > >Transport provider both work. There hasn't > >been _any_ performance optimization on those > >yet, so expect a first run of >3mins and > >subsequent startups may take that long as > >well. Performance optimization is scheduled > >for last. But the core functionality for > >adding/deleting/modifying CalDAV events on > >CalDAV servers work and have been tested > >on Cosmo [ http://cosmo.osafoundation.org ] > >and Oracle CalDAV [ not released as yet ]. > > > > 2. The final major component left for > >development, The address book provider is > >being worked on. This where I've been > >spending my dev time lately. This will will > >allow the sharing of individual calendars. > >I estimate this component can be in Beta > >with a solid month on development; but that > >depends on our our other/paid projects are > >going. > > > > 3. Working on getting Bedework CalDAV > >[ http://bedework.org ] support done. > > > > 4. The MS2 is 'Milestone 2'. The current > >build on sourceforge is 'Milestone 1'. > >That was the first 'release' build of the > >project that would actually do something > >useful. It will add/modify/delete CalDAV > >events on a CalDAV server. MS2 fixes a > >few annoying bugs so that users can test > >individual calendars a bit more. It also > >introduces a new refactored set of > >objects in the two providers, and a stub > >provider for the adress book. I hope to > >put this out by Wednesday, but as usual > >things are being delayed by other > >projects, so maybe this weekend instead. > >As soon as it is verified that the recent > >changes have not broken the CalDAV > >protocol interaction with the supported > >servers ( Bedework, Cosmo, Oracle ), it > >will be released. > > > > After we have the address book provider working > > I will focus on speed/memory optimization and > > the random features that testers may require. > > > > The 3 month target is definitely doable. I'd > > like it to be more like 2. But that's not 100% > > up to me. Someone with very strong C++/Win32/ > > COM experience and has access to the relevant > > tools ( MSVC 2005, Outlook 2003 ) would make a > > _huge_ difference if they put in a 5+ hrs/week > > on this. Also access to funds to open tickets > > with MS, get other consultants, offset time > > expense would help as well. > > > > Best regards, > > Kervin > > > > > > --- Matthew Rubenstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>I've been following this project since 2005 (and > >> occasionally before > >> then). Since the 6/12/06 Alpha release, there has > >> been no messaging on > >> the list. But I do see that the SVN has much more > >> activity, entirely by > >> Kervin (as is practically all development for the > >> length of the > >> project). Now some source is "Ready for server > >> testing, prior to MS2.", > >> but I don't know what that means. > >> > >>Is this a one-man project, with basically only > >> Kervin producing it? Has > >> it stalled? Is there any chance that it will > produce > >> a releasable > >> connector within the next 3-9 months running as > it > >> is currently? > >> -- > >> > >> (C) Matthew Rubenstein > >> > >> > >> > > > -- > > > --- > >> Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of > IT > >> Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll > get > >> the chance to share your > >> opinions on IT & business topics through brief > >> surveys -- and earn cash > >> > > http://www.techsay.com/default.php? > > page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > >> ___ > >> otlkcon-devel mailing list > >> otlkcon-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > >> > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/otlkcon-devel > >> > > > > > > > --
Re: [otlkcon-devel] Open Connector Project Status Re: OTLK-CON Project Status?
Hi, I installed the Alpha connector and tried to configure a file backed account but I continually get "Please Configure an Open Connector" How do I get started? Marc On 27/09/2006, at 1:21 AM, Kervin L. Pierre wrote: Hello, Thanks for your continued interest in Outlook Connector. Yes we have been taking our time on this one haven't we :) The project is moving forward though. I am hoping that stable, functioning betas will attract new resources to the project in the future. But as you've suspected, as of now, resources are very limited. Quick status 1. MAPI Message Storage Provider and MAPI Transport provider both work. There hasn't been _any_ performance optimization on those yet, so expect a first run of >3mins and subsequent startups may take that long as well. Performance optimization is scheduled for last. But the core functionality for adding/deleting/modifying CalDAV events on CalDAV servers work and have been tested on Cosmo [ http://cosmo.osafoundation.org ] and Oracle CalDAV [ not released as yet ]. 2. The final major component left for development, The address book provider is being worked on. This where I've been spending my dev time lately. This will will allow the sharing of individual calendars. I estimate this component can be in Beta with a solid month on development; but that depends on our our other/paid projects are going. 3. Working on getting Bedework CalDAV [ http://bedework.org ] support done. 4. The MS2 is 'Milestone 2'. The current build on sourceforge is 'Milestone 1'. That was the first 'release' build of the project that would actually do something useful. It will add/modify/delete CalDAV events on a CalDAV server. MS2 fixes a few annoying bugs so that users can test individual calendars a bit more. It also introduces a new refactored set of objects in the two providers, and a stub provider for the adress book. I hope to put this out by Wednesday, but as usual things are being delayed by other projects, so maybe this weekend instead. As soon as it is verified that the recent changes have not broken the CalDAV protocol interaction with the supported servers ( Bedework, Cosmo, Oracle ), it will be released. After we have the address book provider working I will focus on speed/memory optimization and the random features that testers may require. The 3 month target is definitely doable. I'd like it to be more like 2. But that's not 100% up to me. Someone with very strong C++/Win32/ COM experience and has access to the relevant tools ( MSVC 2005, Outlook 2003 ) would make a _huge_ difference if they put in a 5+ hrs/week on this. Also access to funds to open tickets with MS, get other consultants, offset time expense would help as well. Best regards, Kervin --- Matthew Rubenstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've been following this project since 2005 (and occasionally before then). Since the 6/12/06 Alpha release, there has been no messaging on the list. But I do see that the SVN has much more activity, entirely by Kervin (as is practically all development for the length of the project). Now some source is "Ready for server testing, prior to MS2.", but I don't know what that means. Is this a one-man project, with basically only Kervin producing it? Has it stalled? Is there any chance that it will produce a releasable connector within the next 3-9 months running as it is currently? -- (C) Matthew Rubenstein -- --- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php? page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ otlkcon-devel mailing list otlkcon-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/otlkcon-devel -- --- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php? page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ otlkcon-devel mailing list otlkcon-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/otlkcon-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV__
[otlkcon-devel] Open Connector Project Status Re: OTLK-CON Project Status?
Hello, Thanks for your continued interest in Outlook Connector. Yes we have been taking our time on this one haven't we :) The project is moving forward though. I am hoping that stable, functioning betas will attract new resources to the project in the future. But as you've suspected, as of now, resources are very limited. Quick status 1. MAPI Message Storage Provider and MAPI Transport provider both work. There hasn't been _any_ performance optimization on those yet, so expect a first run of >3mins and subsequent startups may take that long as well. Performance optimization is scheduled for last. But the core functionality for adding/deleting/modifying CalDAV events on CalDAV servers work and have been tested on Cosmo [ http://cosmo.osafoundation.org ] and Oracle CalDAV [ not released as yet ]. 2. The final major component left for development, The address book provider is being worked on. This where I've been spending my dev time lately. This will will allow the sharing of individual calendars. I estimate this component can be in Beta with a solid month on development; but that depends on our our other/paid projects are going. 3. Working on getting Bedework CalDAV [ http://bedework.org ] support done. 4. The MS2 is 'Milestone 2'. The current build on sourceforge is 'Milestone 1'. That was the first 'release' build of the project that would actually do something useful. It will add/modify/delete CalDAV events on a CalDAV server. MS2 fixes a few annoying bugs so that users can test individual calendars a bit more. It also introduces a new refactored set of objects in the two providers, and a stub provider for the adress book. I hope to put this out by Wednesday, but as usual things are being delayed by other projects, so maybe this weekend instead. As soon as it is verified that the recent changes have not broken the CalDAV protocol interaction with the supported servers ( Bedework, Cosmo, Oracle ), it will be released. After we have the address book provider working I will focus on speed/memory optimization and the random features that testers may require. The 3 month target is definitely doable. I'd like it to be more like 2. But that's not 100% up to me. Someone with very strong C++/Win32/ COM experience and has access to the relevant tools ( MSVC 2005, Outlook 2003 ) would make a _huge_ difference if they put in a 5+ hrs/week on this. Also access to funds to open tickets with MS, get other consultants, offset time expense would help as well. Best regards, Kervin --- Matthew Rubenstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've been following this project since 2005 (and > occasionally before > then). Since the 6/12/06 Alpha release, there has > been no messaging on > the list. But I do see that the SVN has much more > activity, entirely by > Kervin (as is practically all development for the > length of the > project). Now some source is "Ready for server > testing, prior to MS2.", > but I don't know what that means. > > Is this a one-man project, with basically only > Kervin producing it? Has > it stalled? Is there any chance that it will produce > a releasable > connector within the next 3-9 months running as it > is currently? > -- > > (C) Matthew Rubenstein > > > - > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get > the chance to share your > opinions on IT & business topics through brief > surveys -- and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > ___ > otlkcon-devel mailing list > otlkcon-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/otlkcon-devel > - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ otlkcon-devel mailing list otlkcon-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/otlkcon-devel