Re: [OT] Facebook advertising

2013-12-02 Thread mike smith
A side note, or a snide note? The downside of not sharing is not being able to read books in a joint account. Well, you can, but you'll have to file the drm off first. I advocate doing that not cos I'm looking to rip off authors, but because I've got a huge library of .lit books I can no longer

RE: [OT] Facebook advertising

2013-12-01 Thread Ken Schaefer
, or you just don't use Facebook. Just like everything else in the market place. Cheers Ken From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Greg Keogh Sent: Sunday, 1 December 2013 2:21 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Facebook advertising No, it's

Re: [OT] Facebook advertising

2013-12-01 Thread Greg Keogh
Ken, you may have got a whiff of a hint that I don't like advertising, no matter where or why it's in front of me, or what deal put it there. I find targeted advertising particularly frightening and objectionable, it's a kind of perversion of technology. I have no sympathy for advertisers. The

RE: [OT] Facebook advertising

2013-12-01 Thread Stephen Price
:* Re: [OT] Facebook advertising No, it's a security and privacy issue. I refuse to change the way I think about something corrupt, greedy, invasive and opportunist, and so should you. On 1 December 2013 10:57, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Its called targeted

RE: [OT] Facebook advertising

2013-12-01 Thread Ken Schaefer
] On Behalf Of Greg Keogh Sent: Monday, 2 December 2013 11:08 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Facebook advertising Ken, you may have got a whiff of a hint that I don't like advertising, no matter where or why it's in front of me, or what deal put it there. I find targeted advertising particularly

Re: [OT] Facebook advertising

2013-12-01 Thread David Connors
On 2 December 2013 10:16, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: There are other words you could use to describe someone who wants everything for free and won't pay (or expect others to pay) for what they use. Not wanting this to degenerate into name calling, and everyone are

Re: [OT] Facebook advertising

2013-12-01 Thread Iain Carlin
There's a little cross in the top left hand of each of the Facebook ads. It doesn't stop the ads, you just get different ones, but it's fun to say you don't want an advert for Christmas Cake because it's sexually explicit, or flowers because you find it offensive :-) On 2 December 2013 10:37,

Re: [OT] Facebook advertising

2013-12-01 Thread Jorke Odolphi
Greg, Take a look at http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/lightbeam/ - spend a busy day with that turned on. From: g...@mira.netmailto:g...@mira.net g...@mira.netmailto:g...@mira.net Reply-To: ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Date: Sunday, 1 December 2013 10:06 am To:

Re: [OT] Facebook advertising

2013-12-01 Thread Stephen Price
I think the raw nerve that is struck with a lot of people (perhaps Greg, perhaps not) is that there is an underlaying fear of manipulation, or domination. These advertisers are hooking into your psyche, manipulating you, often without you realising it. Psychology is an amazing thing because we

Re: [OT] Facebook advertising

2013-12-01 Thread mike smith
Adsense is Google's product for the phenomena. On this page in gmail, I see ads for Social Media Metrics, Restaurants in Melbourne (one of you guys) Low home rate loans, painter quotes, Debt consolidation, Tafe courses. Ghostery would let me turn it off, but it's ordinary text, not graphics, and

Re: [OT] Facebook advertising

2013-12-01 Thread mike smith
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.comwrote: There are other words you could use to describe someone who wants everything for free and won't pay (or expect others to pay) for what they use. I'll gladly put up with the ads rather than pay, say, $20 a month

RE: [OT] Facebook advertising

2013-12-01 Thread Paul Evrat
using the networks .. From: mike smith [mailto:meski...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 2 December 2013 1:54 PM To: Paul Evrat; ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Facebook advertising Adsense is Google's product for the phenomena. On this page in gmail, I see ads for Social Media Metrics, Restaurants

Re: [OT] Facebook advertising

2013-12-01 Thread Greg Keogh
Has this any chance of attracting enough people to survive? *Encrypted social network vies for disgruntled WhatsApp, Facebook users

Re: [OT] Facebook advertising

2013-12-01 Thread Greg Keogh
Adsense is Google's product for the phenomena. On this page in gmail, I see ads for Social Media Metrics, Restaurants in Melbourne (one of you guys) Low home rate loans, painter quotes, Debt consolidation, Tafe courses. In Facebrick I keep seeing pulsating bloated cartoon tummies on the top

Re: [OT] Facebook advertising

2013-12-01 Thread Dave Walker
Slightly different topic but just remembered something interesting. We offer app for our product on all major phone environments for free (we provide a meta-search engine and get paid for customers sent downstream). People complained alot less and were actually much more likely to purchase as

Re: [OT] Facebook advertising

2013-12-01 Thread Stephen Price
Must be. I've never seen that ad. Bwahahhahaha ;) On 02/12/2013 12:39 pm, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote: Adsense is Google's product for the phenomena. On this page in gmail, I see ads for Social Media Metrics, Restaurants in Melbourne (one of you guys) Low home rate loans, painter quotes,

RE: [OT] Facebook advertising

2013-12-01 Thread ILT (O)
: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Greg Keogh Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 12:37 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Facebook advertising Has this any chance of attracting enough people to survive? http://www.arnnet.com.au/article/533140

Re: [OT] Facebook advertising

2013-12-01 Thread Greg Keogh
I'm glad the subject of 1984 finally came up in the context of advertising. When I read Orwell's book in early high school it had a deep and lasting influence over me. Even since I have been very sensitive to propaganda, double-speak, weasel words and varieties of fallacious argument techniques;

Re: [OT] Facebook advertising

2013-12-01 Thread mike smith
*Subject:* Re: [OT] Facebook advertising On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: There are other words you could use to describe someone who wants everything for free and won't pay (or expect others to pay) for what they use. I'll gladly put up

Re: [OT] Facebook advertising

2013-12-01 Thread mike smith
Probably not. Any more than the spam mail that advertises a well-known enhancement. On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote: Adsense is Google's product for the phenomena. On this page in gmail, I see ads for Social Media Metrics, Restaurants in Melbourne (one of you

Re: [OT] Facebook advertising

2013-12-01 Thread mike smith
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote: I'm glad the subject of 1984 finally came up in the context of advertising. When I read Orwell's book in early high school it had a deep and lasting influence over me. The experience of 'reading' books in school scarred me. I'd

Re: [OT] Facebook advertising

2013-12-01 Thread Joseph Cooney
Has anyone read 'the circle' yet by David Eggers...seems relevant. Amazon suggested it to me ;-) On Dec 2, 2013 3:32 PM, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote: I'm glad the subject of 1984 finally came up in the context of advertising. When I read Orwell's book in early high school it had a deep and

Re: [OT] Facebook advertising

2013-12-01 Thread mike smith
+1 for reading list. It does look rather like a certain company with 2 circles in its name. Amazon's been suggesting scrum books of late to me, before that it was hacking techniques. (move along, nothing to see here) On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 4:55 PM, Joseph Cooney joseph.coo...@gmail.comwrote:

Re: [OT] Facebook advertising

2013-12-01 Thread Stephen Price
A side note... Never sharebypur Amazon account with your wife. I eventually had to rename my account, change the email address to my wife's and make myself a new one. The romance novel recommendations were unbearable. Lol Sure you can tell it not to use certain books for suggestions but I

Re: [OT] Facebook advertising

2013-11-30 Thread Stephen Price
Its called targeted advertising. If you don't want to see ads, the use an ad blocker, or don't use the internet. If you don't want them tracking you then don't use search engines. Or don't use the internet. Personally, I want things. If there is something cool out there that I want to buy and i'm

RE: [OT] Facebook advertising

2013-11-30 Thread Katherine Moss
Evrat; ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Facebook advertising There's a name for it that I have forgotten .. Insidious Sinister Devious Scheming Unscrupulous Conspiracy : Greg

Re: [OT] Facebook advertising

2013-11-30 Thread David Connors
Facebooks advertising seems mostly to work via the referrer from the site you came in from or the like/fb comments embeds. As a result, it kept serving me up ads for my own car I was selling on carsales.com.au. On 1 Dec 2013 09:06, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote: Hmmm! I just went into Facebook

Re: [OT] Facebook advertising

2013-11-30 Thread Grant Molloy
They pay money for reported bugs dont they?? On Dec 1, 2013 10:25 AM, David Connors da...@connors.com wrote: Facebooks advertising seems mostly to work via the referrer from the site you came in from or the like/fb comments embeds. As a result, it kept serving me up ads for my own car I was

RE: [OT] Facebook advertising

2013-11-30 Thread Ken Schaefer
You visit any site participating in an ad network, and a cookie can/will be set indicating you've visited that site. Subsequently visit any other site participating in the same ad network, and you'll targeted ads. Using a cookie blocker or ad blocker (or simply clear your browser

Re: [OT] Facebook advertising

2013-11-30 Thread Greg Keogh
No, it's a security and privacy issue. I refuse to change the way I think about something corrupt, greedy, invasive and opportunist, and so should you. On 1 December 2013 10:57, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Its called targeted advertising. If you don't want to see ads, the

RE: [OT] Facebook advertising

2013-11-30 Thread GregAtGregLowDotCom
: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Greg Keogh Sent: Sunday, 1 December 2013 2:21 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Facebook advertising No, it's a security and privacy issue. I refuse to change the way I think about something corrupt, greedy