P5EEx::Blue critique

2002-05-15 Thread Matt Sergeant
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 OK, I'm just going to go through all the bad stuff I see in Blue, because that's what I'm good at. Sorry if that seems harsh. Overall === Overall I would say P5EEx::Blue's biggest problem is that it is entirely designed from the perspective

Re: P5EEx::Blue critique

2002-05-15 Thread tr16
On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 09:11:32AM +0100, Matt Sergeant wrote: [...] Conclusions === I hope I haven't been too harsh. All in all I'm +1 to make P5EEx::Blue the start of P5EE (bet you weren't expecting that!). The reason being that we need to start somewhere, and Stephen

Re: P5EEx::Blue critique

2002-05-15 Thread Stephen Adkins
Hi, Good feedback. I'll consider each point carefully in due course. Stephen At 09:11 AM 5/15/2002 +0100, Matt Sergeant wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 OK, I'm just going to go through all the bad stuff I see in Blue, because that's what I'm good at. Sorry if that seems

P5EE and Concurrency

2002-05-15 Thread Stephen Adkins
At 11:38 AM 5/15/2002 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem simply is that people give p5ee different priorities. I don't volunteer as well. I once wrote you a mail that I'd think that the whole concurrency stuff is not getting thought about. You replied that I should do it then. But

Re: P5EEx::Blue critique

2002-05-15 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Wed, 15 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a similar opinion. I haven't looked at it, and I won't do that in the near future. So you might have done something really good, but I doubt that after reading Matt's mail ... I think that's the opposite of what Matt was saying. At least,

RE: Preparations for a Vote

2002-05-15 Thread Lihn, Steve
Stephen, I am still watching the list. But due to lack of documentation (as many others have mentioned) I was not able to catch up with your work. I did make an effort to trace the code, but it is very involved. Suffice to say, I did not get too far, especially when it gets to widgets and events.

Re: Introduction to P5EEx::Blue

2002-05-15 Thread Rob Nagler
Sorry, this isn't what you want to hear... If you want to gain acceptance in the enterprise, solve a problem for them. CORBA, with all its backing, failed to succeed as well as Java and .NET. It takes people with vested interests and power/money to make things happen. Let me give you a

Re: P5EEx::Blue critique

2002-05-15 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Wed, 15 May 2002, Matt Sergeant wrote: Overall === Overall I would say P5EEx::Blue's biggest problem is that it is entirely designed from the perspective of web development, and I think it suffers because of that. Generally it's great that this has got off the ground, but now a lot

Re: P5EEx::Blue critique

2002-05-15 Thread tr16
On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 09:55:07AM -0500, Dave Rolsky wrote: On Wed, 15 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a similar opinion. I haven't looked at it, and I won't do that in the near future. So you might have done something really good, but I doubt that after reading Matt's mail ...

Re: Transaction Processing

2002-05-15 Thread Rob Nagler
Stephen Adkins writes: I will be downloading bOP and evaluating making P5EE work with it. I don't think many people are interested in a bOP adapter. Rob: Does this seem like a good idea, and would you and bivio Software Artisans, Inc. look kindly on such a development? We always like

Re: Transaction Processing

2002-05-15 Thread Stephen Adkins
At 03:02 PM 5/15/2002 -0600, Rob Nagler wrote: Stephen Adkins writes: I will be downloading bOP and evaluating making P5EE work with it. I don't think many people are interested in a bOP adapter. Do you mean people on this list? Why would that be? or people you have talked to over the last

Re: Transaction Processing

2002-05-15 Thread Rob Nagler
Stephen Adkins writes: I don't think many people are interested in a bOP adapter. Do you mean people on this list? Why would that be? or people you have talked to over the last year? No one uses bOP except us, and bOP is all we need. If we needed more, we'd add it. You might want to look