Re: Skype For Windows: A Discovery Made

2015-09-17 Thread Dane Trethowan
GW Connect was discontinued long ago, it can't even be gotten any 
longer, why recommend something that doesn't exist or isn't supported 
and may not even work with the later operating systems?




On 9/17/2015 7:55 AM, Peter Scanlon wrote:

Scripts make it much easier. Also I know a few people who still use the GW 
connect work around.

From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 4:37 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Skype For Windows: A Discovery Made

Interesting, I thought we’d gone beyond using scripts for Skype now, it seems 
to me at any rate that the latest version of Skype for Windows is very 
accessible indeed, has been like that for quite some time and full credit to 
Microsoft addressing many accessibility issues.

Its great that people are writing scripts but I don’t like to use them when I 
can avoid doing so as they isolate the user from the way the running App 
actually works so therefore you’re tied to one system or one Screen Reader and 
thus don’t have the knowledge of how functions are used in the App itself, only 
my opinion of course.



On 17 Sep 2015, at 4:33 am, brianolesen <br...@blindkom.dk> wrote:

Hi,
If you're using the scripts you can just press ctrl shift d to enable or 
disable the dialpad.

Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane Trethowan
Sendt: 16. september 2015 19:19
Til: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Emne: Skype For Windows: A Discovery Made

Hi!

For those who use Skype For Windows, I discovered that the feature to generate 
tones whilst on a call now works, in previous versions of Skype For windows 
getting this feature to work was problematic at best - in most cases I couldn’t 
get the function to work at all -.

Anyway Microsoft have certainly fixed the problem so here’s how to activate the 
function.

Whilst on a call use the tab key to move to the “Dial Pad” button and press 
space, from here you can use the top row of numbers on your keyboard to enter 
responses to automated bank systems or whatever, you can even paste a string of 
numbers into the Edit box which comes up when the “Dial Pad” button is pressed 
and have the appropriate tones entered for you by Skype automatically.


**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
halfwits in this world behind.






**
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halfwits in this world behind.




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Re: Skype For Windows: A Discovery Made

2015-09-17 Thread Dane Trethowan

What's the use!


On 9/17/2015 7:55 AM, Peter Scanlon wrote:

Scripts make it much easier. Also I know a few people who still use the GW 
connect work around.

From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 4:37 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Skype For Windows: A Discovery Made

Interesting, I thought we’d gone beyond using scripts for Skype now, it seems 
to me at any rate that the latest version of Skype for Windows is very 
accessible indeed, has been like that for quite some time and full credit to 
Microsoft addressing many accessibility issues.

Its great that people are writing scripts but I don’t like to use them when I 
can avoid doing so as they isolate the user from the way the running App 
actually works so therefore you’re tied to one system or one Screen Reader and 
thus don’t have the knowledge of how functions are used in the App itself, only 
my opinion of course.



On 17 Sep 2015, at 4:33 am, brianolesen <br...@blindkom.dk> wrote:

Hi,
If you're using the scripts you can just press ctrl shift d to enable or 
disable the dialpad.

Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane Trethowan
Sendt: 16. september 2015 19:19
Til: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Emne: Skype For Windows: A Discovery Made

Hi!

For those who use Skype For Windows, I discovered that the feature to generate 
tones whilst on a call now works, in previous versions of Skype For windows 
getting this feature to work was problematic at best - in most cases I couldn’t 
get the function to work at all -.

Anyway Microsoft have certainly fixed the problem so here’s how to activate the 
function.

Whilst on a call use the tab key to move to the “Dial Pad” button and press 
space, from here you can use the top row of numbers on your keyboard to enter 
responses to automated bank systems or whatever, you can even paste a string of 
numbers into the Edit box which comes up when the “Dial Pad” button is pressed 
and have the appropriate tones entered for you by Skype automatically.


**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
halfwits in this world behind.






**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
halfwits in this world behind.




--

**
Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves




Re: Skype For Windows: A Discovery Made

2015-09-17 Thread Peter Scanlon
I’m just saying what some of us use.

P.


From: Dane Trethowan 
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 4:29 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Skype For Windows: A Discovery Made

GW Connect was discontinued long ago, it can't even be gotten any 
longer, why recommend something that doesn't exist or isn't supported 
and may not even work with the later operating systems?



On 9/17/2015 7:55 AM, Peter Scanlon wrote:
> Scripts make it much easier. Also I know a few people who still use the GW 
> connect work around.
>
> From: Dane Trethowan
> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 4:37 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Skype For Windows: A Discovery Made
>
> Interesting, I thought we’d gone beyond using scripts for Skype now, it seems 
> to me at any rate that the latest version of Skype for Windows is very 
> accessible indeed, has been like that for quite some time and full credit to 
> Microsoft addressing many accessibility issues.
>
> Its great that people are writing scripts but I don’t like to use them when I 
> can avoid doing so as they isolate the user from the way the running App 
> actually works so therefore you’re tied to one system or one Screen Reader 
> and thus don’t have the knowledge of how functions are used in the App 
> itself, only my opinion of course.
>
>
>> On 17 Sep 2015, at 4:33 am, brianolesen <br...@blindkom.dk> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> If you're using the scripts you can just press ctrl shift d to enable or 
>> disable the dialpad.
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
>> Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane 
>> Trethowan
>> Sendt: 16. september 2015 19:19
>> Til: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Emne: Skype For Windows: A Discovery Made
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> For those who use Skype For Windows, I discovered that the feature to 
>> generate tones whilst on a call now works, in previous versions of Skype For 
>> windows getting this feature to work was problematic at best - in most cases 
>> I couldn’t get the function to work at all -.
>>
>> Anyway Microsoft have certainly fixed the problem so here’s how to activate 
>> the function.
>>
>> Whilst on a call use the tab key to move to the “Dial Pad” button and press 
>> space, from here you can use the top row of numbers on your keyboard to 
>> enter responses to automated bank systems or whatever, you can even paste a 
>> string of numbers into the Edit box which comes up when the “Dial Pad” 
>> button is pressed and have the appropriate tones entered for you by Skype 
>> automatically.
>>
>>
>> **
>> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
>> halfwits in this world behind.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> **
> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
> halfwits in this world behind.
>
>

-- 

**
Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves



Re: Skype For Windows: A Discovery Made

2015-09-17 Thread Dane Trethowan
You’re right, use what you want but why on earth do people just have to make 
mountains out of molehills and make things difficult? Skype is a continually 
evolving platform and it won’t be long before GW Connect doesn’t work with 
Skype, I’ve not used the utility for a good while and - for all I know - it may 
not even be compatible with parts of Skype now, just bit bite the bullet and 
have a look at the Skype Interface, its very user friendly and straight 
forward, actually my favourite Windows Screen Reader for Skype is NVDA so that 
alone shows how much the software has improved accessibility wise.

You can also do further tweaking to make Skype look the way you want it to look 
by playing with the view shortcuts.

My favourite Skype platform of all is for the Mac and the cordless phone I’ve 
been describing is proving a very convenient tool for those times when I’m not 
near a computer and wish to make and receive calls.


> On 17 Sep 2015, at 4:33 pm, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
> 
> I’m just saying what some of us use.
> 
> P.
> 
> 
> From: Dane Trethowan 
> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 4:29 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: Skype For Windows: A Discovery Made
> 
> GW Connect was discontinued long ago, it can't even be gotten any 
> longer, why recommend something that doesn't exist or isn't supported 
> and may not even work with the later operating systems?
> 
> 
> 
> On 9/17/2015 7:55 AM, Peter Scanlon wrote:
>> Scripts make it much easier. Also I know a few people who still use the GW 
>> connect work around.
>> 
>> From: Dane Trethowan
>> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 4:37 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Skype For Windows: A Discovery Made
>> 
>> Interesting, I thought we’d gone beyond using scripts for Skype now, it 
>> seems to me at any rate that the latest version of Skype for Windows is very 
>> accessible indeed, has been like that for quite some time and full credit to 
>> Microsoft addressing many accessibility issues.
>> 
>> Its great that people are writing scripts but I don’t like to use them when 
>> I can avoid doing so as they isolate the user from the way the running App 
>> actually works so therefore you’re tied to one system or one Screen Reader 
>> and thus don’t have the knowledge of how functions are used in the App 
>> itself, only my opinion of course.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 17 Sep 2015, at 4:33 am, brianolesen <br...@blindkom.dk> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> If you're using the scripts you can just press ctrl shift d to enable or 
>>> disable the dialpad.
>>> 
>>> Brian
>>> 
>>> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
>>> Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane 
>>> Trethowan
>>> Sendt: 16. september 2015 19:19
>>> Til: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>> Emne: Skype For Windows: A Discovery Made
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> 
>>> For those who use Skype For Windows, I discovered that the feature to 
>>> generate tones whilst on a call now works, in previous versions of Skype 
>>> For windows getting this feature to work was problematic at best - in most 
>>> cases I couldn’t get the function to work at all -.
>>> 
>>> Anyway Microsoft have certainly fixed the problem so here’s how to activate 
>>> the function.
>>> 
>>> Whilst on a call use the tab key to move to the “Dial Pad” button and press 
>>> space, from here you can use the top row of numbers on your keyboard to 
>>> enter responses to automated bank systems or whatever, you can even paste a 
>>> string of numbers into the Edit box which comes up when the “Dial Pad” 
>>> button is pressed and have the appropriate tones entered for you by Skype 
>>> automatically.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> **
>>> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
>>> halfwits in this world behind.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> **
>> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
>> halfwits in this world behind.
>> 
>> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> **
> Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves
> 

**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
halfwits in this world behind.





Re: Skype For Windows: A Discovery Made

2015-09-17 Thread Singing Sparrow

you can use miranda im or miranda ng to use aim with.

On 9/17/2015 11:17 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:

Yeah, agreed. Also, you hold back. You don't upgrade if you keep up the old 
ways. I mean it would be like me stgaying on Win 7 only because of being able 
to use AIM with Face Book. It kind of applies because well the AIM that works 
with JAWS is now old. The new 1 doesn't. Would be epic if it did, but too bad  
Se la vi. Excuse my miss spelling of French. Lol. But I just love that 
expression. So had to use it. Lol. The best solution would be in my example 
with AIM is to talk to those guys and ask them to take a looksy at things. I 
agree scripts can make things a little easyerr, but Even eric says that Scripts 
aren't the end all be all way. One should try and insentivize the developers to 
make the software work fore the blind. Ahem Power DVD fits here.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 2:51 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Skype For Windows: A Discovery Made

You’re right, use what you want but why on earth do people just have to make 
mountains out of molehills and make things difficult? Skype is a continually 
evolving platform and it won’t be long before GW Connect doesn’t work with 
Skype, I’ve not used the utility for a good while and - for all I know - it may 
not even be compatible with parts of Skype now, just bit bite the bullet and 
have a look at the Skype Interface, its very user friendly and straight 
forward, actually my favourite Windows Screen Reader for Skype is NVDA so that 
alone shows how much the software has improved accessibility wise.

You can also do further tweaking to make Skype look the way you want it to look 
by playing with the view shortcuts.

My favourite Skype platform of all is for the Mac and the cordless phone I’ve 
been describing is proving a very convenient tool for those times when I’m not 
near a computer and wish to make and receive calls.



On 17 Sep 2015, at 4:33 pm, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> wrote:

I’m just saying what some of us use.

P.


From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 4:29 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Skype For Windows: A Discovery Made

GW Connect was discontinued long ago, it can't even be gotten any
longer, why recommend something that doesn't exist or isn't supported
and may not even work with the later operating systems?



On 9/17/2015 7:55 AM, Peter Scanlon wrote:

Scripts make it much easier. Also I know a few people who still use the GW 
connect work around.

From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 4:37 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Skype For Windows: A Discovery Made

Interesting, I thought we’d gone beyond using scripts for Skype now, it seems 
to me at any rate that the latest version of Skype for Windows is very 
accessible indeed, has been like that for quite some time and full credit to 
Microsoft addressing many accessibility issues.

Its great that people are writing scripts but I don’t like to use them when I 
can avoid doing so as they isolate the user from the way the running App 
actually works so therefore you’re tied to one system or one Screen Reader and 
thus don’t have the knowledge of how functions are used in the App itself, only 
my opinion of course.



On 17 Sep 2015, at 4:33 am, brianolesen <br...@blindkom.dk> wrote:

Hi,
If you're using the scripts you can just press ctrl shift d to enable or 
disable the dialpad.

Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af
Dane Trethowan
Sendt: 16. september 2015 19:19
Til: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Emne: Skype For Windows: A Discovery Made

Hi!

For those who use Skype For Windows, I discovered that the feature to generate 
tones whilst on a call now works, in previous versions of Skype For windows 
getting this feature to work was problematic at best - in most cases I couldn’t 
get the function to work at all -.

Anyway Microsoft have certainly fixed the problem so here’s how to activate the 
function.

Whilst on a call use the tab key to move to the “Dial Pad” button and press 
space, from here you can use the top row of numbers on your keyboard to enter 
responses to automated bank systems or whatever, you can even paste a string of 
numbers into the Edit box which comes up when the “Dial Pad” button is pressed 
and have the appropriate tones entered for you by Skype automatically.


**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
halfwits in this world behind.






**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
halfwits in this world behind.



--

**
Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves


**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of 

RE: Skype For Windows: A Discovery Made

2015-09-17 Thread Hamit Campos
Yeah, agreed. Also, you hold back. You don't upgrade if you keep up the old 
ways. I mean it would be like me stgaying on Win 7 only because of being able 
to use AIM with Face Book. It kind of applies because well the AIM that works 
with JAWS is now old. The new 1 doesn't. Would be epic if it did, but too bad  
Se la vi. Excuse my miss spelling of French. Lol. But I just love that 
expression. So had to use it. Lol. The best solution would be in my example 
with AIM is to talk to those guys and ask them to take a looksy at things. I 
agree scripts can make things a little easyerr, but Even eric says that Scripts 
aren't the end all be all way. One should try and insentivize the developers to 
make the software work fore the blind. Ahem Power DVD fits here.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 2:51 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Skype For Windows: A Discovery Made

You’re right, use what you want but why on earth do people just have to make 
mountains out of molehills and make things difficult? Skype is a continually 
evolving platform and it won’t be long before GW Connect doesn’t work with 
Skype, I’ve not used the utility for a good while and - for all I know - it may 
not even be compatible with parts of Skype now, just bit bite the bullet and 
have a look at the Skype Interface, its very user friendly and straight 
forward, actually my favourite Windows Screen Reader for Skype is NVDA so that 
alone shows how much the software has improved accessibility wise.

You can also do further tweaking to make Skype look the way you want it to look 
by playing with the view shortcuts.

My favourite Skype platform of all is for the Mac and the cordless phone I’ve 
been describing is proving a very convenient tool for those times when I’m not 
near a computer and wish to make and receive calls.


> On 17 Sep 2015, at 4:33 pm, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
> 
> I’m just saying what some of us use.
> 
> P.
> 
> 
> From: Dane Trethowan
> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 4:29 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Skype For Windows: A Discovery Made
> 
> GW Connect was discontinued long ago, it can't even be gotten any 
> longer, why recommend something that doesn't exist or isn't supported 
> and may not even work with the later operating systems?
> 
> 
> 
> On 9/17/2015 7:55 AM, Peter Scanlon wrote:
>> Scripts make it much easier. Also I know a few people who still use the GW 
>> connect work around.
>> 
>> From: Dane Trethowan
>> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 4:37 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Skype For Windows: A Discovery Made
>> 
>> Interesting, I thought we’d gone beyond using scripts for Skype now, it 
>> seems to me at any rate that the latest version of Skype for Windows is very 
>> accessible indeed, has been like that for quite some time and full credit to 
>> Microsoft addressing many accessibility issues.
>> 
>> Its great that people are writing scripts but I don’t like to use them when 
>> I can avoid doing so as they isolate the user from the way the running App 
>> actually works so therefore you’re tied to one system or one Screen Reader 
>> and thus don’t have the knowledge of how functions are used in the App 
>> itself, only my opinion of course.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 17 Sep 2015, at 4:33 am, brianolesen <br...@blindkom.dk> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> If you're using the scripts you can just press ctrl shift d to enable or 
>>> disable the dialpad.
>>> 
>>> Brian
>>> 
>>> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
>>> Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af 
>>> Dane Trethowan
>>> Sendt: 16. september 2015 19:19
>>> Til: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>> Emne: Skype For Windows: A Discovery Made
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> 
>>> For those who use Skype For Windows, I discovered that the feature to 
>>> generate tones whilst on a call now works, in previous versions of Skype 
>>> For windows getting this feature to work was problematic at best - in most 
>>> cases I couldn’t get the function to work at all -.
>>> 
>>> Anyway Microsoft have certainly fixed the problem so here’s how to activate 
>>> the function.
>>> 
>>> Whilst on a call use the tab key to move to the “Dial Pad” button and press 
>>> space, from here you can use the top row of numbers on your keyboard to 
>>> enter responses to automated bank systems or whatever, you can even

RE: Skype For Windows: A Discovery Made

2015-09-17 Thread Hamit Campos
Oh really? So that will wirk with the newest AIM? Can you send me the link to 
it please then? Tthanks.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Singing 
Sparrow
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 12:19 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Skype For Windows: A Discovery Made

you can use miranda im or miranda ng to use aim with.

On 9/17/2015 11:17 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
> Yeah, agreed. Also, you hold back. You don't upgrade if you keep up the old 
> ways. I mean it would be like me stgaying on Win 7 only because of being able 
> to use AIM with Face Book. It kind of applies because well the AIM that works 
> with JAWS is now old. The new 1 doesn't. Would be epic if it did, but too bad 
>  Se la vi. Excuse my miss spelling of French. Lol. But I just love that 
> expression. So had to use it. Lol. The best solution would be in my example 
> with AIM is to talk to those guys and ask them to take a looksy at things. I 
> agree scripts can make things a little easyerr, but Even eric says that 
> Scripts aren't the end all be all way. One should try and insentivize the 
> developers to make the software work fore the blind. Ahem Power DVD fits here.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> Dane Trethowan
> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 2:51 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Subject: Re: Skype For Windows: A Discovery Made
>
> You’re right, use what you want but why on earth do people just have to make 
> mountains out of molehills and make things difficult? Skype is a continually 
> evolving platform and it won’t be long before GW Connect doesn’t work with 
> Skype, I’ve not used the utility for a good while and - for all I know - it 
> may not even be compatible with parts of Skype now, just bit bite the bullet 
> and have a look at the Skype Interface, its very user friendly and straight 
> forward, actually my favourite Windows Screen Reader for Skype is NVDA so 
> that alone shows how much the software has improved accessibility wise.
>
> You can also do further tweaking to make Skype look the way you want it to 
> look by playing with the view shortcuts.
>
> My favourite Skype platform of all is for the Mac and the cordless phone I’ve 
> been describing is proving a very convenient tool for those times when I’m 
> not near a computer and wish to make and receive calls.
>
>
>> On 17 Sep 2015, at 4:33 pm, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
>>
>> I’m just saying what some of us use.
>>
>> P.
>>
>>
>> From: Dane Trethowan
>> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 4:29 PM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Skype For Windows: A Discovery Made
>>
>> GW Connect was discontinued long ago, it can't even be gotten any 
>> longer, why recommend something that doesn't exist or isn't supported 
>> and may not even work with the later operating systems?
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/17/2015 7:55 AM, Peter Scanlon wrote:
>>> Scripts make it much easier. Also I know a few people who still use the GW 
>>> connect work around.
>>>
>>> From: Dane Trethowan
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 4:37 AM
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: Skype For Windows: A Discovery Made
>>>
>>> Interesting, I thought we’d gone beyond using scripts for Skype now, it 
>>> seems to me at any rate that the latest version of Skype for Windows is 
>>> very accessible indeed, has been like that for quite some time and full 
>>> credit to Microsoft addressing many accessibility issues.
>>>
>>> Its great that people are writing scripts but I don’t like to use them when 
>>> I can avoid doing so as they isolate the user from the way the running App 
>>> actually works so therefore you’re tied to one system or one Screen Reader 
>>> and thus don’t have the knowledge of how functions are used in the App 
>>> itself, only my opinion of course.
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 17 Sep 2015, at 4:33 am, brianolesen <br...@blindkom.dk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> If you're using the scripts you can just press ctrl shift d to enable or 
>>>> disable the dialpad.
>>>>
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
>>>> Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af 
>>>> Dane Trethowan
>>>> Sendt: 16. september 2015 19:19
>>>> Til: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>

Re: Skype For Windows: A Discovery Made

2015-09-16 Thread Dane Trethowan
To be perfectly honest, I’ve not tried Skype For Windows using Text chats yet 
but the point still remains, I assume that - when you talk of Scripts - you’re 
assuming that everyone is using JAWS? That just ain’t the case.

I use JAWS here and I like it a lot but for those who don’t use JAWS then they 
don’t have JAWS scripts to work with thus those people have two distinct 
options, use Skype and learn about what accessibility is built-in or not use 
Skype at all - or spend a whole heap of extra money just to get JAWS to run 
Skype scripts - .


> On 17 Sep 2015, at 4:48 am, brianolesen <br...@blindkom.dk> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Hmm well not really.
> For example you can not get automatic speech in a chat session if you're 
> downloading a file without the scripts.
> 
> 
> Brian
> Brian
> 
> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane 
> Trethowan
> Sendt: 16. september 2015 20:38
> Til: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Emne: Re: Skype For Windows: A Discovery Made
> 
> Interesting, I thought we’d gone beyond using scripts for Skype now, it seems 
> to me at any rate that the latest version of Skype for Windows is very 
> accessible indeed, has been like that for quite some time and full credit to 
> Microsoft addressing many accessibility issues.
> 
> Its great that people are writing scripts but I don’t like to use them when I 
> can avoid doing so as they isolate the user from the way the running App 
> actually works so therefore you’re tied to one system or one Screen Reader 
> and thus don’t have the knowledge of how functions are used in the App 
> itself, only my opinion of course.
> 
> 
>> On 17 Sep 2015, at 4:33 am, brianolesen <br...@blindkom.dk> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> If you're using the scripts you can just press ctrl shift d to enable or 
>> disable the dialpad. 
>> 
>> Brian
>> 
>> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
>> Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane 
>> Trethowan
>> Sendt: 16. september 2015 19:19
>> Til: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Emne: Skype For Windows: A Discovery Made
>> 
>> Hi!
>> 
>> For those who use Skype For Windows, I discovered that the feature to 
>> generate tones whilst on a call now works, in previous versions of Skype For 
>> windows getting this feature to work was problematic at best - in most cases 
>> I couldn’t get the function to work at all -.
>> 
>> Anyway Microsoft have certainly fixed the problem so here’s how to activate 
>> the function.
>> 
>> Whilst on a call use the tab key to move to the “Dial Pad” button and press 
>> space, from here you can use the top row of numbers on your keyboard to 
>> enter responses to automated bank systems or whatever, you can even paste a 
>> string of numbers into the Edit box which comes up when the “Dial Pad” 
>> button is pressed and have the appropriate tones entered for you by Skype 
>> automatically.
>> 
>> 
>> **
>> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
>> halfwits in this world behind.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> **
> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
> halfwits in this world behind.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
halfwits in this world behind.





SV: Skype For Windows: A Discovery Made

2015-09-16 Thread brianolesen
Hi,
Hmm well not really.
For example you can not get automatic speech in a chat session if you're 
downloading a file without the scripts.


Brian
Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane Trethowan
Sendt: 16. september 2015 20:38
Til: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Emne: Re: Skype For Windows: A Discovery Made

Interesting, I thought we’d gone beyond using scripts for Skype now, it seems 
to me at any rate that the latest version of Skype for Windows is very 
accessible indeed, has been like that for quite some time and full credit to 
Microsoft addressing many accessibility issues.

Its great that people are writing scripts but I don’t like to use them when I 
can avoid doing so as they isolate the user from the way the running App 
actually works so therefore you’re tied to one system or one Screen Reader and 
thus don’t have the knowledge of how functions are used in the App itself, only 
my opinion of course.


> On 17 Sep 2015, at 4:33 am, brianolesen <br...@blindkom.dk> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> If you're using the scripts you can just press ctrl shift d to enable or 
> disable the dialpad. 
> 
> Brian
> 
> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane 
> Trethowan
> Sendt: 16. september 2015 19:19
> Til: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Emne: Skype For Windows: A Discovery Made
> 
> Hi!
> 
> For those who use Skype For Windows, I discovered that the feature to 
> generate tones whilst on a call now works, in previous versions of Skype For 
> windows getting this feature to work was problematic at best - in most cases 
> I couldn’t get the function to work at all -.
> 
> Anyway Microsoft have certainly fixed the problem so here’s how to activate 
> the function.
> 
> Whilst on a call use the tab key to move to the “Dial Pad” button and press 
> space, from here you can use the top row of numbers on your keyboard to enter 
> responses to automated bank systems or whatever, you can even paste a string 
> of numbers into the Edit box which comes up when the “Dial Pad” button is 
> pressed and have the appropriate tones entered for you by Skype automatically.
> 
> 
> **
> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
> halfwits in this world behind.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
halfwits in this world behind.







SV: Skype For Windows: A Discovery Made

2015-09-16 Thread brianolesen
Hi,
If you're using the scripts you can just press ctrl shift d to enable or 
disable the dialpad. 

Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane Trethowan
Sendt: 16. september 2015 19:19
Til: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Emne: Skype For Windows: A Discovery Made

Hi!

For those who use Skype For Windows, I discovered that the feature to generate 
tones whilst on a call now works, in previous versions of Skype For windows 
getting this feature to work was problematic at best - in most cases I couldn’t 
get the function to work at all -.

Anyway Microsoft have certainly fixed the problem so here’s how to activate the 
function.

Whilst on a call use the tab key to move to the “Dial Pad” button and press 
space, from here you can use the top row of numbers on your keyboard to enter 
responses to automated bank systems or whatever, you can even paste a string of 
numbers into the Edit box which comes up when the “Dial Pad” button is pressed 
and have the appropriate tones entered for you by Skype automatically.


**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
halfwits in this world behind.







Re: Skype For Windows: A Discovery Made

2015-09-16 Thread Peter Scanlon
Scripts make it much easier. Also I know a few people who still use the GW 
connect work around.

From: Dane Trethowan 
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 4:37 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Skype For Windows: A Discovery Made

Interesting, I thought we’d gone beyond using scripts for Skype now, it seems 
to me at any rate that the latest version of Skype for Windows is very 
accessible indeed, has been like that for quite some time and full credit to 
Microsoft addressing many accessibility issues.

Its great that people are writing scripts but I don’t like to use them when I 
can avoid doing so as they isolate the user from the way the running App 
actually works so therefore you’re tied to one system or one Screen Reader and 
thus don’t have the knowledge of how functions are used in the App itself, only 
my opinion of course.


> On 17 Sep 2015, at 4:33 am, brianolesen <br...@blindkom.dk> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> If you're using the scripts you can just press ctrl shift d to enable or 
> disable the dialpad. 
> 
> Brian
> 
> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane 
> Trethowan
> Sendt: 16. september 2015 19:19
> Til: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Emne: Skype For Windows: A Discovery Made
> 
> Hi!
> 
> For those who use Skype For Windows, I discovered that the feature to 
> generate tones whilst on a call now works, in previous versions of Skype For 
> windows getting this feature to work was problematic at best - in most cases 
> I couldn’t get the function to work at all -.
> 
> Anyway Microsoft have certainly fixed the problem so here’s how to activate 
> the function.
> 
> Whilst on a call use the tab key to move to the “Dial Pad” button and press 
> space, from here you can use the top row of numbers on your keyboard to enter 
> responses to automated bank systems or whatever, you can even paste a string 
> of numbers into the Edit box which comes up when the “Dial Pad” button is 
> pressed and have the appropriate tones entered for you by Skype automatically.
> 
> 
> **
> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
> halfwits in this world behind.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
halfwits in this world behind.




Re: Skype For Windows: A Discovery Made

2015-09-16 Thread Dane Trethowan
Interesting, I thought we’d gone beyond using scripts for Skype now, it seems 
to me at any rate that the latest version of Skype for Windows is very 
accessible indeed, has been like that for quite some time and full credit to 
Microsoft addressing many accessibility issues.

Its great that people are writing scripts but I don’t like to use them when I 
can avoid doing so as they isolate the user from the way the running App 
actually works so therefore you’re tied to one system or one Screen Reader and 
thus don’t have the knowledge of how functions are used in the App itself, only 
my opinion of course.


> On 17 Sep 2015, at 4:33 am, brianolesen <br...@blindkom.dk> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> If you're using the scripts you can just press ctrl shift d to enable or 
> disable the dialpad. 
> 
> Brian
> 
> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane 
> Trethowan
> Sendt: 16. september 2015 19:19
> Til: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Emne: Skype For Windows: A Discovery Made
> 
> Hi!
> 
> For those who use Skype For Windows, I discovered that the feature to 
> generate tones whilst on a call now works, in previous versions of Skype For 
> windows getting this feature to work was problematic at best - in most cases 
> I couldn’t get the function to work at all -.
> 
> Anyway Microsoft have certainly fixed the problem so here’s how to activate 
> the function.
> 
> Whilst on a call use the tab key to move to the “Dial Pad” button and press 
> space, from here you can use the top row of numbers on your keyboard to enter 
> responses to automated bank systems or whatever, you can even paste a string 
> of numbers into the Edit box which comes up when the “Dial Pad” button is 
> pressed and have the appropriate tones entered for you by Skype automatically.
> 
> 
> **
> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
> halfwits in this world behind.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
halfwits in this world behind.





Skype For Windows: A Discovery Made

2015-09-16 Thread Dane Trethowan
Hi!

For those who use Skype For Windows, I discovered that the feature to generate 
tones whilst on a call now works, in previous versions of Skype For windows 
getting this feature to work was problematic at best - in most cases I couldn’t 
get the function to work at all -.

Anyway Microsoft have certainly fixed the problem so here’s how to activate the 
function.

Whilst on a call use the tab key to move to the “Dial Pad” button and press 
space, from here you can use the top row of numbers on your keyboard to enter 
responses to automated bank systems or whatever, you can even paste a string of 
numbers into the Edit box which comes up when the “Dial Pad” button is pressed 
and have the appropriate tones entered for you by Skype automatically.


**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
halfwits in this world behind.