Re: feeling bass frequencies

2015-09-28 Thread Joe Sontag
he "blind school"?! Very strange.
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From: "Brian" <n8...@att.net>
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Subject: Re: feeling bass frequencies


: I like the balloon idea I once had that experience I 
: was on the bus going from the blind school to home and my bus driver 
: gave some ballons I think that I had about 3 and I placed them on the 
: speaker of my tape recorder and it almost sounded like stereo and yes I 
: could both feel and hear the base through the balloons.  I would give it 
: a try and see what you think.
: Briansackrider
: 
: On 9/27/2015 4:11 PM, Andri van Deventer wrote:
: > Something to try thanx quintin.
: >
: > This sub has a very thick wooden cabinet especially to keep all unnecessary
: > vibrations out.  The only place you seem to be able to feel  the bass really
: > is if you place your fingers gently on the front.
: >
: > Someone once said you might try holding a balloon wich should pick up the
: > vibrations.  But I'm wondering if different kinds of materials might give
: > you different kinds of detail.  I don't know even where to begin researching
: > this!!
: >
: > Regards
: >
: > Andre
: >
: >
: >
: > -Original Message-
: > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Quinten
: > Pendle
: > Sent: 27 September 2015 09:39 PM
: > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
: > Subject: RE: feeling bass frequencies
: >
: > Hi Andre
: >
: > Is there a possibility that you could maybe make your sub stand against the
: > chair in which you sit when listening to music? This way, maybe, the sub
: > could transfer some of it's bass through the chair or bank, through which
: > you could maybe feel it? Maybe this is stupid, i don't know.
: >
: >
: > -Original Message-
: > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andri van
: > Deventer
: > Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2015 9:26 PM
: > To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
: > Subject: feeling bass frequencies
: >
: > Hi all
: >
: >   
: >
: > I sincerely hope this is not off topic for the list.  If so the moderators
: > must please let me know and I will request people to answer me off list.
: >
: >   
: >
: > I have a very unique situation here.  I have just had a second cochlear
: > implant which resulted  in my losing all frequencies below about 100 hz.
: > This as many of you know results in you losing quite a deal of the lower
: > bass sounds in music.
: >
: >   
: >
: > Im researching some way of now compensating for this.  The only way I can
: > think up is to  use my tactile sense to feel the missing frequencies.  Maybe
: > the brain may put the signals of the  audio and visual cortex together   and
: > create some kind of a whole.
: >
: >   
: >
: > What I have done is to lightly rest my fingers  onto  the front of my
: > reasonable quality sub whoofer.  It is then indeed possible to do this.  But
: > its really not the most comfortable position to sit in also.  Another thing
: >  if you turn up the bass too much, the harmonics starts to distort the
: > cochlear implants.
: >
: >   
: >
: > So Im wondering if someone has any thoughts on this rather unique challenge
: > to share?
: >
: >   
: >
: > Regards
: >
: >   
: >
: > Andre
: >
: >   
: >
: >   
: >
: >
: >
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RE: feeling bass frequencies

2015-09-28 Thread André van Deventer
Another interesting thing.

I have a very good quality pair of old Sennheiser hd250 Mark ii headphones.
If you drive them hard enough  and place the headphones on your head and not
your ears would you be able to feel the lower frequencies that way?  You
will not be able to hear them as the cochlear implants basically disconnects
the middle and outer ear.

Andre



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian
Sent: 28 September 2015 04:26 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: feeling bass frequencies

 I like the balloon idea I once had that experience I was on
the bus going from the blind school to home and my bus driver gave some
ballons I think that I had about 3 and I placed them on the speaker of my
tape recorder and it almost sounded like stereo and yes I could both feel
and hear the base through the balloons.  I would give it a try and see what
you think.
Briansackrider

On 9/27/2015 4:11 PM, André van Deventer wrote:
> Something to try thanx quintin.
>
> This sub has a very thick wooden cabinet especially to keep all
> unnecessary vibrations out.  The only place you seem to be able to
> feel  the bass really is if you place your fingers gently on the front.
>
> Someone once said you might try holding a balloon wich should pick up
> the vibrations.  But I'm wondering if different kinds of materials
> might give you different kinds of detail.  I don't know even where to
> begin researching this!!
>
> Regards
>
> Andre
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
> Quinten Pendle
> Sent: 27 September 2015 09:39 PM
> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: feeling bass frequencies
>
> Hi Andre
>
> Is there a possibility that you could maybe make your sub stand
> against the chair in which you sit when listening to music? This way,
> maybe, the sub could transfer some of it's bass through the chair or
> bank, through which you could maybe feel it? Maybe this is stupid, i don't
know.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
> André van Deventer
> Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2015 9:26 PM
> To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
> Subject: feeling bass frequencies
>
> Hi all
>
>
>
> I sincerely hope this is not off topic for the list.  If so the
> moderators must please let me know and I will request people to answer me
off list.
>
>
>
> I have a very unique situation here.  I have just had a second
> cochlear implant which resulted  in my losing all frequencies below about
100 hz.
> This as many of you know results in you losing quite a deal of the
> lower bass sounds in music.
>
>
>
> I’m researching some way of now compensating for this.  The only way I 
> can think up is to  use my tactile sense to feel the missing frequencies.
Maybe
> the brain may put the signals of the  audio and visual cortex together
and
> create some kind of a whole.
>
>
>
> What I have done is to lightly rest my fingers  onto  the front of my
> reasonable quality sub whoofer.  It is then indeed possible to do
> this.  But it’s really not the most comfortable position to sit in
> also.  Another thing – if you turn up the bass too much, the harmonics 
> starts to distort the cochlear implants.
>
>
>
> So I’m wondering if someone has any thoughts on this rather unique
> challenge to share?
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Andre
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: feeling bass frequencies

2015-09-28 Thread André van Deventer
Brian

Might be the cheapest solution to try I think.

I'm just wondering whether different materials provide different detail?



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian
Sent: 28 September 2015 04:26 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: feeling bass frequencies

 I like the balloon idea I once had that experience I was on
the bus going from the blind school to home and my bus driver gave some
ballons I think that I had about 3 and I placed them on the speaker of my
tape recorder and it almost sounded like stereo and yes I could both feel
and hear the base through the balloons.  I would give it a try and see what
you think.
Briansackrider

On 9/27/2015 4:11 PM, André van Deventer wrote:
> Something to try thanx quintin.
>
> This sub has a very thick wooden cabinet especially to keep all
> unnecessary vibrations out.  The only place you seem to be able to
> feel  the bass really is if you place your fingers gently on the front.
>
> Someone once said you might try holding a balloon wich should pick up
> the vibrations.  But I'm wondering if different kinds of materials
> might give you different kinds of detail.  I don't know even where to
> begin researching this!!
>
> Regards
>
> Andre
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
> Quinten Pendle
> Sent: 27 September 2015 09:39 PM
> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: feeling bass frequencies
>
> Hi Andre
>
> Is there a possibility that you could maybe make your sub stand
> against the chair in which you sit when listening to music? This way,
> maybe, the sub could transfer some of it's bass through the chair or
> bank, through which you could maybe feel it? Maybe this is stupid, i don't
know.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
> André van Deventer
> Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2015 9:26 PM
> To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
> Subject: feeling bass frequencies
>
> Hi all
>
>
>
> I sincerely hope this is not off topic for the list.  If so the
> moderators must please let me know and I will request people to answer me
off list.
>
>
>
> I have a very unique situation here.  I have just had a second
> cochlear implant which resulted  in my losing all frequencies below about
100 hz.
> This as many of you know results in you losing quite a deal of the
> lower bass sounds in music.
>
>
>
> I’m researching some way of now compensating for this.  The only way I 
> can think up is to  use my tactile sense to feel the missing frequencies.
Maybe
> the brain may put the signals of the  audio and visual cortex together
and
> create some kind of a whole.
>
>
>
> What I have done is to lightly rest my fingers  onto  the front of my
> reasonable quality sub whoofer.  It is then indeed possible to do
> this.  But it’s really not the most comfortable position to sit in
> also.  Another thing – if you turn up the bass too much, the harmonics 
> starts to distort the cochlear implants.
>
>
>
> So I’m wondering if someone has any thoughts on this rather unique
> challenge to share?
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Andre
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: feeling bass frequencies

2015-09-28 Thread André van Deventer
Jeff thanx man!

I am aware of this method of the use of morse code by deafblind persons.

What I'm just wondering about  is that I may need more detail than would be 
available in a morse code system.  Also with the kind of music I listen to you 
need bass frequencies a whoofer might not  be able to provide?

This is actually fascinating research I think.



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Geoff Eden
Sent: 28 September 2015 12:38 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: feeling bass frequencies

Cognitive transference, it's entirely possible that with use your brain may 
kick in the bass for you.

A long time ago there was a deaf blind ham operator in central Canada who used 
the Morris code for communication.  A gentleman at the national research 
Council built a speaker box whose speaker cone he filled with Styrofoam, and 
then topped with plastic for protection as this person's hand would be on the 
speaker a great deal.

This person worked the radio for many years and most of her contacts never knew 
that she was deaf blind.

Therefore I suggest a small Wolfer with major excursion capability and whose 
cone be filled with foam to provide you a flat surface.  It too could be 
covered by a plastic film for protection.  Small Wolfer's travel back and forth 
more distance, generally, than do large ones to get the air in the room moving. 
 Hence, the term long excursion.

It strikes me that some of those relatively inexpensive three point speaker 
systems for computers might have a ready made Wolfer box that you could adapt 
directly.  I see them all over the place for around $100 or less.  A computer 
repair store just may have a set of these speakers with the tweeter components 
not functioning, as it's rather common for their cables to break or deteriorate.

Best of luck to you, and let us know if it works out.  It's probably material 
for a research article.

Geoff

-Original Message-
From: André van Deventer
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2015 3:25 PM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: feeling bass frequencies

Hi all



I sincerely hope this is not off topic for the list.  If so the moderators must 
please let me know and I will request people to answer me off list.



I have a very unique situation here.  I have just had a second cochlear implant 
which resulted  in my losing all frequencies below about 100 hz.
This as many of you know results in you losing quite a deal of the lower bass 
sounds in music.



I’m researching some way of now compensating for this.  The only way I can 
think up is to  use my tactile sense to feel the missing frequencies.  Maybe
the brain may put the signals of the  audio and visual cortex together   and
create some kind of a whole.



What I have done is to lightly rest my fingers  onto  the front of my 
reasonable quality sub whoofer.  It is then indeed possible to do this.  But 
it’s really not the most comfortable position to sit in also.  Another thing – 
if you turn up the bass too much, the harmonics starts to distort the cochlear 
implants.



So I’m wondering if someone has any thoughts on this rather unique challenge to 
share?



Regards



Andre







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RE: feeling bass frequencies

2015-09-28 Thread André van Deventer
I will do so thanx!



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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Howard
Traxler
Sent: 28 September 2015 01:57 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: feeling bass frequencies

There is a transducer device made for gamers that is attaches to your chair
or sofa.  I don't know the frequency range, but it is said to vibrate your
chair conforming to the low frequency audio.  You might google chair shaker.
- Original Message -
From: "André van Deventer" <andred...@webafrica.org.za>
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2015 3:11 PM
Subject: RE: feeling bass frequencies



Something to try thanx quintin.

This sub has a very thick wooden cabinet especially to keep all unnecessary
vibrations out.  The only place you seem to be able to feel  the bass really
is if you place your fingers gently on the front.

Someone once said you might try holding a balloon wich should pick up the
vibrations.  But I'm wondering if different kinds of materials might give
you different kinds of detail.  I don't know even where to begin researching
this!!

Regards

Andre



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Quinten
Pendle
Sent: 27 September 2015 09:39 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: feeling bass frequencies

Hi Andre

Is there a possibility that you could maybe make your sub stand against the
chair in which you sit when listening to music? This way, maybe, the sub
could transfer some of it's bass through the chair or bank, through which
you could maybe feel it? Maybe this is stupid, i don't know.


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of André van
Deventer
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2015 9:26 PM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: feeling bass frequencies

Hi all



I sincerely hope this is not off topic for the list.  If so the moderators
must please let me know and I will request people to answer me off list.



I have a very unique situation here.  I have just had a second cochlear
implant which resulted  in my losing all frequencies below about 100 hz.
This as many of you know results in you losing quite a deal of the lower
bass sounds in music.



I'm researching some way of now compensating for this.  The only way I can
think up is to  use my tactile sense to feel the missing frequencies.  Maybe
the brain may put the signals of the  audio and visual cortex together   and
create some kind of a whole.



What I have done is to lightly rest my fingers  onto  the front of my
reasonable quality sub whoofer.  It is then indeed possible to do this.  But
it's really not the most comfortable position to sit in also.  Another thing
- if you turn up the bass too much, the harmonics starts to distort the
cochlear implants.



So I'm wondering if someone has any thoughts on this rather unique challenge
to share?



Regards



Andre







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Re: feeling bass frequencies

2015-09-28 Thread covici
How about bone conduction earphones, I don't know if the base response
of those is good enough, however on those.

André van Deventer <andred...@webafrica.org.za> wrote:

> Brian
> 
> Might be the cheapest solution to try I think.
> 
> I'm just wondering whether different materials provide different detail?
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian
> Sent: 28 September 2015 04:26 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: feeling bass frequencies
> 
>  I like the balloon idea I once had that experience I was on
> the bus going from the blind school to home and my bus driver gave some
> ballons I think that I had about 3 and I placed them on the speaker of my
> tape recorder and it almost sounded like stereo and yes I could both feel
> and hear the base through the balloons.  I would give it a try and see what
> you think.
> Briansackrider
> 
> On 9/27/2015 4:11 PM, André van Deventer wrote:
> > Something to try thanx quintin.
> >
> > This sub has a very thick wooden cabinet especially to keep all 
> > unnecessary vibrations out.  The only place you seem to be able to 
> > feel  the bass really is if you place your fingers gently on the front.
> >
> > Someone once said you might try holding a balloon wich should pick up 
> > the vibrations.  But I'm wondering if different kinds of materials 
> > might give you different kinds of detail.  I don't know even where to 
> > begin researching this!!
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Andre
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-----
> > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> > Quinten Pendle
> > Sent: 27 September 2015 09:39 PM
> > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
> > Subject: RE: feeling bass frequencies
> >
> > Hi Andre
> >
> > Is there a possibility that you could maybe make your sub stand 
> > against the chair in which you sit when listening to music? This way, 
> > maybe, the sub could transfer some of it's bass through the chair or 
> > bank, through which you could maybe feel it? Maybe this is stupid, i don't
> know.
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> > André van Deventer
> > Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2015 9:26 PM
> > To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
> > Subject: feeling bass frequencies
> >
> > Hi all
> >
> >   
> >
> > I sincerely hope this is not off topic for the list.  If so the 
> > moderators must please let me know and I will request people to answer me
> off list.
> >
> >   
> >
> > I have a very unique situation here.  I have just had a second 
> > cochlear implant which resulted  in my losing all frequencies below about
> 100 hz.
> > This as many of you know results in you losing quite a deal of the 
> > lower bass sounds in music.
> >
> >   
> >
> > I’m researching some way of now compensating for this.  The only way I 
> > can think up is to  use my tactile sense to feel the missing frequencies.
> Maybe
> > the brain may put the signals of the  audio and visual cortex together
> and
> > create some kind of a whole.
> >
> >   
> >
> > What I have done is to lightly rest my fingers  onto  the front of my 
> > reasonable quality sub whoofer.  It is then indeed possible to do 
> > this.  But it’s really not the most comfortable position to sit in 
> > also.  Another thing – if you turn up the bass too much, the harmonics 
> > starts to distort the cochlear implants.
> >
> >   
> >
> > So I’m wondering if someone has any thoughts on this rather unique 
> > challenge to share?
> >
> >   
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >   
> >
> > Andre
> >
> >   
> >
> >   
> >
> >
> >
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feeling bass frequencies

2015-09-27 Thread André van Deventer
Hi all



I sincerely hope this is not off topic for the list.  If so the moderators
must please let me know and I will request people to answer me off list.



I have a very unique situation here.  I have just had a second cochlear
implant which resulted  in my losing all frequencies below about 100 hz.
This as many of you know results in you losing quite a deal of the lower
bass sounds in music.



I’m researching some way of now compensating for this.  The only way I can
think up is to  use my tactile sense to feel the missing frequencies.  Maybe
the brain may put the signals of the  audio and visual cortex together   and
create some kind of a whole.



What I have done is to lightly rest my fingers  onto  the front of my
reasonable quality sub whoofer.  It is then indeed possible to do this.  But
it’s really not the most comfortable position to sit in also.  Another thing
– if you turn up the bass too much, the harmonics starts to distort the
cochlear implants.



So I’m wondering if someone has any thoughts on this rather unique challenge
to share?



Regards



Andre







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Re: feeling bass frequencies

2015-09-27 Thread Geoff Eden
Cognitive transference, it's entirely possible that with use your brain may 
kick in the bass for you.


A long time ago there was a deaf blind ham operator in central Canada who 
used the Morris code for communication.  A gentleman at the national 
research Council built a speaker box whose speaker cone he filled with 
Styrofoam, and then topped with plastic for protection as this person's hand 
would be on the speaker a great deal.


This person worked the radio for many years and most of her contacts never 
knew that she was deaf blind.


Therefore I suggest a small Wolfer with major excursion capability and whose 
cone be filled with foam to provide you a flat surface.  It too could be 
covered by a plastic film for protection.  Small Wolfer's travel back and 
forth more distance, generally, than do large ones to get the air in the 
room moving.  Hence, the term long excursion.


It strikes me that some of those relatively inexpensive three point speaker 
systems for computers might have a ready made Wolfer box that you could 
adapt directly.  I see them all over the place for around $100 or less.  A 
computer repair store just may have a set of these speakers with the tweeter 
components not functioning, as it's rather common for their cables to break 
or deteriorate.


Best of luck to you, and let us know if it works out.  It's probably 
material for a research article.


Geoff

-Original Message- 
From: André van Deventer

Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2015 3:25 PM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: feeling bass frequencies

Hi all



I sincerely hope this is not off topic for the list.  If so the moderators
must please let me know and I will request people to answer me off list.



I have a very unique situation here.  I have just had a second cochlear
implant which resulted  in my losing all frequencies below about 100 hz.
This as many of you know results in you losing quite a deal of the lower
bass sounds in music.



I’m researching some way of now compensating for this.  The only way I can
think up is to  use my tactile sense to feel the missing frequencies.  Maybe
the brain may put the signals of the  audio and visual cortex together   and
create some kind of a whole.



What I have done is to lightly rest my fingers  onto  the front of my
reasonable quality sub whoofer.  It is then indeed possible to do this.  But
it’s really not the most comfortable position to sit in also.  Another thing
– if you turn up the bass too much, the harmonics starts to distort the
cochlear implants.



So I’m wondering if someone has any thoughts on this rather unique challenge
to share?



Regards



Andre







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RE: feeling bass frequencies

2015-09-27 Thread Quinten Pendle
Hi Andre

Is there a possibility that you could maybe make your sub stand against the
chair in which you sit when listening to music? This way, maybe, the sub
could transfer some of it's bass through the chair or bank, through which
you could maybe feel it? Maybe this is stupid, i don't know.


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of André van
Deventer
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2015 9:26 PM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: feeling bass frequencies

Hi all

 

I sincerely hope this is not off topic for the list.  If so the moderators
must please let me know and I will request people to answer me off list.

 

I have a very unique situation here.  I have just had a second cochlear
implant which resulted  in my losing all frequencies below about 100 hz.
This as many of you know results in you losing quite a deal of the lower
bass sounds in music.

 

I’m researching some way of now compensating for this.  The only way I can
think up is to  use my tactile sense to feel the missing frequencies.  Maybe
the brain may put the signals of the  audio and visual cortex together   and
create some kind of a whole.

 

What I have done is to lightly rest my fingers  onto  the front of my
reasonable quality sub whoofer.  It is then indeed possible to do this.  But
it’s really not the most comfortable position to sit in also.  Another thing
– if you turn up the bass too much, the harmonics starts to distort the
cochlear implants.

 

So I’m wondering if someone has any thoughts on this rather unique challenge
to share?

 

Regards

 

Andre

 

 



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RE: feeling bass frequencies

2015-09-27 Thread Hamit Campos
Hmmm, this might be too expensive but people do buy them and use
them for movies. Not heard how well this works for music nor if people even
bother. I'm talking about the but kicker. Well at least that is what Scott
Wilkinson calls them. If it works in the same way for music as for movies,
it should help.

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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of André van
Deventer
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2015 3:26 PM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: feeling bass frequencies

Hi all

 

I sincerely hope this is not off topic for the list.  If so the moderators
must please let me know and I will request people to answer me off list.

 

I have a very unique situation here.  I have just had a second cochlear
implant which resulted  in my losing all frequencies below about 100 hz.
This as many of you know results in you losing quite a deal of the lower
bass sounds in music.

 

I’m researching some way of now compensating for this.  The only way I can
think up is to  use my tactile sense to feel the missing frequencies.  Maybe
the brain may put the signals of the  audio and visual cortex together   and
create some kind of a whole.

 

What I have done is to lightly rest my fingers  onto  the front of my
reasonable quality sub whoofer.  It is then indeed possible to do this.  But
it’s really not the most comfortable position to sit in also.  Another thing
– if you turn up the bass too much, the harmonics starts to distort the
cochlear implants.

 

So I’m wondering if someone has any thoughts on this rather unique challenge
to share?

 

Regards

 

Andre

 

 



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RE: feeling bass frequencies

2015-09-27 Thread André van Deventer

Something to try thanx quintin.

This sub has a very thick wooden cabinet especially to keep all unnecessary
vibrations out.  The only place you seem to be able to feel  the bass really
is if you place your fingers gently on the front.

Someone once said you might try holding a balloon wich should pick up the
vibrations.  But I'm wondering if different kinds of materials might give
you different kinds of detail.  I don't know even where to begin researching
this!!

Regards

Andre



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Quinten
Pendle
Sent: 27 September 2015 09:39 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: feeling bass frequencies

Hi Andre

Is there a possibility that you could maybe make your sub stand against the
chair in which you sit when listening to music? This way, maybe, the sub
could transfer some of it's bass through the chair or bank, through which
you could maybe feel it? Maybe this is stupid, i don't know.


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of André van
Deventer
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2015 9:26 PM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: feeling bass frequencies

Hi all



I sincerely hope this is not off topic for the list.  If so the moderators
must please let me know and I will request people to answer me off list.



I have a very unique situation here.  I have just had a second cochlear
implant which resulted  in my losing all frequencies below about 100 hz.
This as many of you know results in you losing quite a deal of the lower
bass sounds in music.



I’m researching some way of now compensating for this.  The only way I can
think up is to  use my tactile sense to feel the missing frequencies.  Maybe
the brain may put the signals of the  audio and visual cortex together   and
create some kind of a whole.



What I have done is to lightly rest my fingers  onto  the front of my
reasonable quality sub whoofer.  It is then indeed possible to do this.  But
it’s really not the most comfortable position to sit in also.  Another thing
– if you turn up the bass too much, the harmonics starts to distort the
cochlear implants.



So I’m wondering if someone has any thoughts on this rather unique challenge
to share?



Regards



Andre







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Re: feeling bass frequencies

2015-09-27 Thread Brian
I like the balloon idea I once had that experience I 
was on the bus going from the blind school to home and my bus driver 
gave some ballons I think that I had about 3 and I placed them on the 
speaker of my tape recorder and it almost sounded like stereo and yes I 
could both feel and hear the base through the balloons.  I would give it 
a try and see what you think.

Briansackrider

On 9/27/2015 4:11 PM, André van Deventer wrote:

Something to try thanx quintin.

This sub has a very thick wooden cabinet especially to keep all unnecessary
vibrations out.  The only place you seem to be able to feel  the bass really
is if you place your fingers gently on the front.

Someone once said you might try holding a balloon wich should pick up the
vibrations.  But I'm wondering if different kinds of materials might give
you different kinds of detail.  I don't know even where to begin researching
this!!

Regards

Andre



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Quinten
Pendle
Sent: 27 September 2015 09:39 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: feeling bass frequencies

Hi Andre

Is there a possibility that you could maybe make your sub stand against the
chair in which you sit when listening to music? This way, maybe, the sub
could transfer some of it's bass through the chair or bank, through which
you could maybe feel it? Maybe this is stupid, i don't know.


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of André van
Deventer
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2015 9:26 PM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: feeling bass frequencies

Hi all

  


I sincerely hope this is not off topic for the list.  If so the moderators
must please let me know and I will request people to answer me off list.

  


I have a very unique situation here.  I have just had a second cochlear
implant which resulted  in my losing all frequencies below about 100 hz.
This as many of you know results in you losing quite a deal of the lower
bass sounds in music.

  


I’m researching some way of now compensating for this.  The only way I can
think up is to  use my tactile sense to feel the missing frequencies.  Maybe
the brain may put the signals of the  audio and visual cortex together   and
create some kind of a whole.

  


What I have done is to lightly rest my fingers  onto  the front of my
reasonable quality sub whoofer.  It is then indeed possible to do this.  But
it’s really not the most comfortable position to sit in also.  Another thing
– if you turn up the bass too much, the harmonics starts to distort the
cochlear implants.

  


So I’m wondering if someone has any thoughts on this rather unique challenge
to share?

  


Regards

  


Andre

  

  




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RE: feeling bass frequencies

2015-09-27 Thread Hamit Campos
Ah that's a curious idea.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2015 10:26 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: feeling bass frequencies

 I like the balloon idea I once had that experience I was on
the bus going from the blind school to home and my bus driver gave some
ballons I think that I had about 3 and I placed them on the speaker of my
tape recorder and it almost sounded like stereo and yes I could both feel
and hear the base through the balloons.  I would give it a try and see what
you think.
Briansackrider

On 9/27/2015 4:11 PM, André van Deventer wrote:
> Something to try thanx quintin.
>
> This sub has a very thick wooden cabinet especially to keep all 
> unnecessary vibrations out.  The only place you seem to be able to 
> feel  the bass really is if you place your fingers gently on the front.
>
> Someone once said you might try holding a balloon wich should pick up 
> the vibrations.  But I'm wondering if different kinds of materials 
> might give you different kinds of detail.  I don't know even where to 
> begin researching this!!
>
> Regards
>
> Andre
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> Quinten Pendle
> Sent: 27 September 2015 09:39 PM
> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: feeling bass frequencies
>
> Hi Andre
>
> Is there a possibility that you could maybe make your sub stand 
> against the chair in which you sit when listening to music? This way, 
> maybe, the sub could transfer some of it's bass through the chair or 
> bank, through which you could maybe feel it? Maybe this is stupid, i don't
know.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> André van Deventer
> Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2015 9:26 PM
> To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
> Subject: feeling bass frequencies
>
> Hi all
>
>   
>
> I sincerely hope this is not off topic for the list.  If so the 
> moderators must please let me know and I will request people to answer me
off list.
>
>   
>
> I have a very unique situation here.  I have just had a second 
> cochlear implant which resulted  in my losing all frequencies below about
100 hz.
> This as many of you know results in you losing quite a deal of the 
> lower bass sounds in music.
>
>   
>
> I’m researching some way of now compensating for this.  The only way I 
> can think up is to  use my tactile sense to feel the missing frequencies.
Maybe
> the brain may put the signals of the  audio and visual cortex together
and
> create some kind of a whole.
>
>   
>
> What I have done is to lightly rest my fingers  onto  the front of my 
> reasonable quality sub whoofer.  It is then indeed possible to do 
> this.  But it’s really not the most comfortable position to sit in 
> also.  Another thing – if you turn up the bass too much, the harmonics 
> starts to distort the cochlear implants.
>
>   
>
> So I’m wondering if someone has any thoughts on this rather unique 
> challenge to share?
>
>   
>
> Regards
>
>   
>
> Andre
>
>   
>
>   
>
>
>
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RE: feeling bass frequencies

2015-09-27 Thread Hamit Campos
Yeah that's the thing. Scott Wilkinson calls it a but kicker. It's used for
movies. Scott doesn't like them cause he says they make him motion sick. But
for what the need seems to be here, This is it. Well, we'll have to see
though. Like you said gamers use them and some home theater geeks do but who
knows how they do for music.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Howard
Traxler
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2015 7:57 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: feeling bass frequencies

There is a transducer device made for gamers that is attaches to your chair
or sofa.  I don't know the frequency range, but it is said to vibrate your
chair conforming to the low frequency audio.  You might google chair shaker.
- Original Message -
From: "André van Deventer" <andred...@webafrica.org.za>
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2015 3:11 PM
Subject: RE: feeling bass frequencies



Something to try thanx quintin.

This sub has a very thick wooden cabinet especially to keep all unnecessary
vibrations out.  The only place you seem to be able to feel  the bass really
is if you place your fingers gently on the front.

Someone once said you might try holding a balloon wich should pick up the
vibrations.  But I'm wondering if different kinds of materials might give
you different kinds of detail.  I don't know even where to begin researching
this!!

Regards

Andre



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Quinten
Pendle
Sent: 27 September 2015 09:39 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: feeling bass frequencies

Hi Andre

Is there a possibility that you could maybe make your sub stand against the
chair in which you sit when listening to music? This way, maybe, the sub
could transfer some of it's bass through the chair or bank, through which
you could maybe feel it? Maybe this is stupid, i don't know.


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of André van
Deventer
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2015 9:26 PM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: feeling bass frequencies

Hi all



I sincerely hope this is not off topic for the list.  If so the moderators
must please let me know and I will request people to answer me off list.



I have a very unique situation here.  I have just had a second cochlear
implant which resulted  in my losing all frequencies below about 100 hz.
This as many of you know results in you losing quite a deal of the lower
bass sounds in music.



I'm researching some way of now compensating for this.  The only way I can
think up is to  use my tactile sense to feel the missing frequencies.  Maybe
the brain may put the signals of the  audio and visual cortex together   and
create some kind of a whole.



What I have done is to lightly rest my fingers  onto  the front of my
reasonable quality sub whoofer.  It is then indeed possible to do this.  But
it's really not the most comfortable position to sit in also.  Another thing
- if you turn up the bass too much, the harmonics starts to distort the
cochlear implants.



So I'm wondering if someone has any thoughts on this rather unique challenge
to share?



Regards



Andre







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Re: feeling bass frequencies

2015-09-27 Thread Howard Traxler
There is a transducer device made for gamers that is attaches to your chair 
or sofa.  I don't know the frequency range, but it is said to vibrate your 
chair conforming to the low frequency audio.  You might google chair shaker.
- Original Message - 
From: "André van Deventer" <andred...@webafrica.org.za>

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2015 3:11 PM
Subject: RE: feeling bass frequencies



Something to try thanx quintin.

This sub has a very thick wooden cabinet especially to keep all unnecessary
vibrations out.  The only place you seem to be able to feel  the bass really
is if you place your fingers gently on the front.

Someone once said you might try holding a balloon wich should pick up the
vibrations.  But I'm wondering if different kinds of materials might give
you different kinds of detail.  I don't know even where to begin researching
this!!

Regards

Andre



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Quinten
Pendle
Sent: 27 September 2015 09:39 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: feeling bass frequencies

Hi Andre

Is there a possibility that you could maybe make your sub stand against the
chair in which you sit when listening to music? This way, maybe, the sub
could transfer some of it's bass through the chair or bank, through which
you could maybe feel it? Maybe this is stupid, i don't know.


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of André van
Deventer
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2015 9:26 PM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: feeling bass frequencies

Hi all



I sincerely hope this is not off topic for the list.  If so the moderators
must please let me know and I will request people to answer me off list.



I have a very unique situation here.  I have just had a second cochlear
implant which resulted  in my losing all frequencies below about 100 hz.
This as many of you know results in you losing quite a deal of the lower
bass sounds in music.



I'm researching some way of now compensating for this.  The only way I can
think up is to  use my tactile sense to feel the missing frequencies.  Maybe
the brain may put the signals of the  audio and visual cortex together   and
create some kind of a whole.



What I have done is to lightly rest my fingers  onto  the front of my
reasonable quality sub whoofer.  It is then indeed possible to do this.  But
it's really not the most comfortable position to sit in also.  Another thing
- if you turn up the bass too much, the harmonics starts to distort the
cochlear implants.



So I'm wondering if someone has any thoughts on this rather unique challenge
to share?



Regards



Andre







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