[PD] Pd/GEM crashing in fc8

2008-12-01 Thread Jaime Oliver
Hello all, I have found a new problem in my machine with Pd and the recent changes i made: (I mentioned them in a previous e-mail, but I'll restate them: installing recordmydesktop and Mplayer, and adding support for mpeg3, Quicktime and ffmpeg, then recompiling gem) Now this is what I can see

Re: [PD] Pd/GEM crashing in fc8

2008-12-01 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Jaime Oliver wrote: Hello all, I have found a new problem in my machine with Pd and the recent changes i made: (I mentioned them in a previous e-mail, but I'll restate them: installing recordmydesktop and Mplayer, and adding support for mpeg3, Quicktime and ffmpeg, then recompiling gem)

Re: [PD] $0 and Data Structure Templates

2008-12-01 Thread hard off
this is why i gave up on datastructs the first time i learnt how to use them. i always just thought i was doing something wrong. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] $0 and Data Structure Templates

2008-12-01 Thread Mike McGonagle
Then how do you deal with situations where you need to store related info like this? I could see that it would be very easy to come up with an alternative, using something like an external written in Lua (or even in C), that would allow for the storing of related/structured data. What do you do?

Re: [PD] Pd/GEM crashing in fc8

2008-12-01 Thread Jaime Oliver
Hi Iohannes, do the problems go away when you _not_ load Gem? Yes, as far as I can tell, they go away. has Gem been compiled against the correct version of Pd? I don't know, I can't remember when was the last time I downloaded this version of GEM, it only says: ver: 0.91-cvs (m_pd.h

Re: [PD] Pd/GEM crashing in fc8

2008-12-01 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Jaime Oliver wrote: Hi Iohannes, do the problems go away when you _not_ load Gem? Yes, as far as I can tell, they go away. darn has Gem been compiled against the correct version of Pd? I don't know, I can't remember when was the last time I downloaded this version of GEM, it only

Re: [PD] Pd/GEM crashing in fc8

2008-12-01 Thread Jaime Oliver
hello again, On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 1:13 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jaime Oliver wrote: Hi Iohannes, do the problems go away when you _not_ load Gem? Yes, as far as I can tell, they go away. darn darn indeed has Gem been compiled against the correct version

Re: [PD] $0 and Data Structure Templates

2008-12-01 Thread hard off
i dunno. i gave up. i didn't look for a solution. was just saying that it was the $0 problem that finally made me too frustrated to continue. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -

Re: [PD] $0 and Data Structure Templates

2008-12-01 Thread Mike McGonagle
Well, I would be interested in knowing how many people actually use data structures, and if they do, is it for the ability to create graphical editors of the data. Mike On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 3:42 AM, hard off [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i dunno. i gave up. i didn't look for a solution. was

Re: [PD] Pd/GEM crashing in fc8

2008-12-01 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Jaime Oliver wrote: hello again, hi this sounds very much like an ABI problem to me. what does ABI mean? I'm pretty sure it's not any of these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ABI... it is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_binary_interface (you'll excuse my ignorance in this

Re: [PD] rc-sssad

2008-12-01 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Dan Wilcox hat gesagt: // Dan Wilcox wrote: Ahh I see, I think I'm using the wrong terminology then. I'm using local as in objects with a certain osc-style prefix. Ahh now I see, too. ;) You may like the new setonly and saveonly messages to send to SSSAD_ADMIN rsp. $0-SSSAD_ADMIN.

Re: [PD] Peak envelope follower?

2008-12-01 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Andy Farnell hat gesagt: // Andy Farnell wrote: [snapshot~] IIRC gives you the value of the first sample in the last block when banged. For more see [vsnapshot~] which snaps in the middle of a block similar to [vline~]. Ciao -- Frank BarknechtDo You RjDj.me? _

Re: [PD] Pd/GEM crashing in fc8

2008-12-01 Thread Jaime Oliver
Ok, so it works now: wait. which libraries is Gem linked with? try ldd /path/to/Gem.pd_linux I pasted this at the end of this mail in case this is of interest for you... ... and then something like % ./configure --without-ffmpeg anyhow, just add another --without-mpeg3 to the

Re: [PD] Pd/GEM crashing in fc8

2008-12-01 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Jaime Oliver wrote: Ok, so it works now: great. Here is the ldd /path/to/Gem.pd_linux Before recompiling: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ ldd /home/joliverl/Desktop/Gem/src/Gem.pd_linux linux-vdso.so.1 = (0x7fff9b1ff000) libavformat.so.52 = /usr/lib64/libavformat.so.52

[PD] midiout

2008-12-01 Thread Yvan Vander Sanden
Hey Could it be there is something wrong with the implementation of [midiout]? I am using ubuntu linux, with 0.40-3 extended. I have input from [cyclone/seq] which prints out fine, but the [midiout] object does not seem to react on this. I use alsa-midi, btw. With a 4 port output device. I have

Re: [PD] $0 and Data Structure Templates

2008-12-01 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Mike McGonagle hat gesagt: // Mike McGonagle wrote: I think this should be allowed, hell, even the use of other $ arguments. It would be nice to be able to allow abstractions to create their own private data structures, or at least ones that could be named based on a creation argument.

Re: [PD] $0 and Data Structure Templates

2008-12-01 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Mike McGonagle hat gesagt: // Mike McGonagle wrote: Hum, I have had this issue with other things using $0, and it seems almost impossible while developing a patch to NOT save over a patch containing a $0 reference. There are some situations that I have learned not to do this, but that

Re: [PD] $0 and Data Structure Templates

2008-12-01 Thread Mike McGonagle
Hum, I have had this issue with other things using $0, and it seems almost impossible while developing a patch to NOT save over a patch containing a $0 reference. There are some situations that I have learned not to do this, but that was only after several lost patches and data... While it has

Re: [PD] Peak envelope follower?

2008-12-01 Thread Steffen Leve Poulsen
Hi Bill, use a comination of [tabsend~] and [tabread], see attached. mvh/Steffen Leve Poulsen Bill Gribble skrev: Is there a way within pd-extended to do the equivalent of [env~], but following peak value rather than RMS? I have pulled my hair out trying to implement this with patching but

Re: [PD] $0 and Data Structure Templates

2008-12-01 Thread Mike McGonagle
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 5:25 AM, Frank Barknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo, Mike McGonagle hat gesagt: // Mike McGonagle wrote: Hm, I guess I don't completely understand what you are referring to. Probably my inability to remember exactly what happened. Data Structures just seems to me to

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] The OtherSide Server is DEAD!

2008-12-01 Thread Ilias Anagnostopoulos
Hello hc, Is this the APT that has the other pd-extended packages as well? This could be very useful, so they can all be in the same place and anyone interested will not have to wait until I find a permanent solution for the OtherSide. If you follow the non-APT link, you can download the

[PD] Speaker protection abstraction

2008-12-01 Thread Spencer Russell
Most of my live performance work involves realtime processing of upright bass, and I find myself often using a lot of very short variable IIR taps (delays with feedback). I use either my 500-watt bass amp or the house PA as output. Right now I don't have any explicit patchage to make sure I'm

[PD] missing dependencies for pd-extended on ubuntu 8.10

2008-12-01 Thread Roman Haefeli
hello all, hi ilias i tried to install the ubuntu intrepid package of pd-extended on a ubuntu intrepid machine and got missing dependencies. pd-extended is dependent on the following packages, that seem not to be part of intrepid: libmagick++9c2ca libmagick9 libmpeg1 i guess, those can be

Re: [PD] Speaker protection abstraction

2008-12-01 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2008-12-01 at 08:50 -0500, Spencer Russell wrote: Are other people using speaker protection patches? Anything more sophisticated than the classic [hip~ 5] before the output? in what way more sophisticated? i found, that [hip~ 5] does a pretty decent job. roman

Re: [PD] Speaker protection abstraction

2008-12-01 Thread Andy Farnell
It's quite rare to find a sound card and amplification system that can actually deliver DC. These are usually specialised DACs for control applications. Regular audio equipment uses DC blocking capacitors (analogue high-pass) that won't admit anything much below 5-10Hz. All the same, if you

Re: [PD] Speaker protection abstraction

2008-12-01 Thread Luigi
Am 01.12.2008 um 15:21 schrieb Andy Farnell: It's quite rare to find a sound card and amplification system that can actually deliver DC. These are usually specialised DACs for control applications. Regular audio equipment uses DC blocking capacitors (analogue high-pass) that won't admit

Re: [PD] $0 and Data Structure Templates

2008-12-01 Thread Georg Werner
Hi, i'm working on an abstraction with data structures inside (franks tutorial was very helpful http://puredata.info/community/projects/convention04/lectures/tk-barknecht/tut.tgz/view?searchterm=data%20structures%20tut ) and i use $1 in the name of the template (like this: struct $1-template

Re: [PD] $0 and Data Structure Templates

2008-12-01 Thread Chris McCormick
On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 11:54:34AM +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Mike McGonagle hat gesagt: // Mike McGonagle wrote: I think this should be allowed, hell, even the use of other $ arguments. It would be nice to be able to allow abstractions to create their own private data

Re: [PD] Speaker protection abstraction

2008-12-01 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Luigi wrote: Am 01.12.2008 um 15:21 schrieb Andy Farnell: This should be a separate piece of hardware, not part of the software system that could fail. Hi, yes thats my experienc, too. i agree. I tried to use limiter~, but wasnt satisfied. it created some crackles with extreme

[PD] missing dependencies for pd-extended on ubuntu 8.10

2008-12-01 Thread Ilias Anagnostopoulos
Hello Roman, I assume you tried downloading the package through HTTP. There is an info link next to the download, md5 and APT links on the download page, that links here: http://pd.ianagnostopoulos.postgrad.shef.ac.uk/notes.txt This describes the dependencies, and gives you another link,

Re: [PD] missing dependencies for pd-extended on ubuntu 8.10

2008-12-01 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2008-12-01 at 17:54 +, Ilias Anagnostopoulos wrote: Hello Roman, I assume you tried downloading the package through HTTP. exactly. There is an info link next to the download, md5 and APT links on the download page, that links here:

[PD] Pdpedia Chinese

2008-12-01 Thread chun
Hi all: I have recently met many enthusiasts here in the far east, and as a result, we would like to start a project translating Pdpedia into Chinese (probably traditional chinese first, then simplified a bit later). This project is helped also by GOTO10, where we have a mailing list called

Re: [PD] missing dependencies for pd-extended on ubuntu 8.10

2008-12-01 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Ilias Anagnostopoulos wrote: Hello Roman, GEM seems to need the specific versions it depends on. I think that since there is no serious reason not to use these libraries, it doesn't make sense doing anything to the source code to make it compatible with the newer versions. If we simply

Re: [PD] missing dependencies for pd-extended on ubuntu 8.10

2008-12-01 Thread Ilias Anagnostopoulos
Hello IOhannes, I will check it again tomorrow and if I can make a better solution work, I'll implement it. As for the libmpeg1 vs libmpeg3, how would I specify which one I want to use then? Or does it figure this out on its own at compile time? -Ilias IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Ilias

Re: [PD] missing dependencies for pd-extended on ubuntu 8.10

2008-12-01 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Ilias Anagnostopoulos wrote: Hello IOhannes, I will check it again tomorrow and if I can make a better solution work, I'll implement it. As for the libmpeg1 vs libmpeg3, how would I specify which one I want to use then? Or does it figure this out on its own at compile time? it should

[PD] [PD-announce] reware howto video

2008-12-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
We've been working at Eyebeam since July on making it easy to hack old devices and run new software on them. We now have our first Reware HOWTO video, showing the basics of how to use a Reware image yourself, then it illustrates some of the Pd patches we've made:

Re: [PD] midiout not working

2008-12-01 Thread Rua Haszard Morris
Yep, I agree, I think midiout is not working on linux and possibly windows too. I did see it working on Mac. On linux I was using alsa midi, but just soft out (via jack) into a softsynth. Here's a mail to the list about it. http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2008-11/066180.html

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] The OtherSide Server is DEAD!

2008-12-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Yeah, this is the repo with the rest of the packages. If you send me the direct link to the package, then I'll stick it into the repo where the rest are hosted. I just want to make sure that I get the right package. :) .hc On Dec 1, 2008, at 7:43 AM, Ilias Anagnostopoulos wrote: Hello

Re: [PD] midiout

2008-12-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
For some reason, I want to say that [midiout] isn't fully there. I seem to recall advice to use [noteout] over [midiout], but that's all I remember. .hc On Dec 1, 2008, at 5:41 AM, Yvan Vander Sanden wrote: Hey Could it be there is something wrong with the implementation of [midiout]?

[PD] pd-linux/irritating dialog box location

2008-12-01 Thread Damian Stewart
hey list, raise your hand if a) you run Linux, and b) you are really really really irritated by the fact that the confirm-close, confirm-quit, file-open and file-save dialog boxes are parented to the main Pd window, rather than the patch window you are currently looking at. ... why does

Re: [PD] emulating an acoustic hi-hat pedal

2008-12-01 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
Someday I hope you make a big ole' physical modeled jazz drum kit, Andy. Genius! ~Kyle On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Andy Farnell [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hey Patrick, It's the everything in-between bit that is hard. A hihat is one of those instruments that seems really simple, but on

Re: [PD] pd-linux/irritating dialog box location

2008-12-01 Thread Rua Haszard Morris
My hand is up. -- http://myspace.com/haszari http://haszaristwocents.blogspot.com http://last.fm/music/Haszari - Original Message From: Damian Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PD-List pd-list@iem.at Sent: Tuesday, 2 December, 2008 12:29:06 PM Subject: [PD] pd-linux/irritating dialog

Re: [PD] pd-linux/irritating dialog box location

2008-12-01 Thread patrick
hi damian, let's hope that miller is using pd-vanilla on linux, but wait maybe he doesn't mind! pat ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] emulating an acoustic hi-hat pedal

2008-12-01 Thread patrick
Useful post, thank you very much Andy. Indeed, it's pretty complex dsp, at least i have the technical terms ;) pat ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] The OtherSide Server is DEAD!

2008-12-01 Thread Ilias Anagnostopoulos
Hans, The package link is: http://pd.ianagnostopoulos.postgrad.shef.ac.uk/pd-extended_0.40.3-intrepid4_i386.deb The md5 for this is: http://pd.ianagnostopoulos.postgrad.shef.ac.uk/pd-extended_0.40.3-intrepid4_i386.deb.md5 The dependency packages are:

[PD] $0-messages

2008-12-01 Thread Jaime Oliver
hello, I am working on a machine that isn't mine. a mac desktop 2 x 2.66Ghz intel machine. pd-0.41-4 The problem is that if i have a number box conected to an object [s $0-test] and a number box conected to an object [r $0-test] numbers are transmited ok. But when I send the message through a

Re: [PD] emulating an acoustic hi-hat pedal

2008-12-01 Thread Andy Farnell
YVW, and FWIW, there's some tuts to look at mine using a familiar additive/modulation method here http://www.obiwannabe.co.uk/html/toys/cymbal-FMAM/cymbalfmam.html and here http://www.mcld.co.uk/cymbalsynthesis/ Dan Stowell does a great job of using subtractive methods in SC A nice thread

Re: [PD] Multi-slider attempt

2008-12-01 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
I haven't put it to practical use yet. But if I weren't using arrays, I would just have a scalable rectangle, for example, and get the y-value from the outlet of the corresponding struct. When stretching the rectangle, it gives a change message plus a pointer to the object, so there's no need

Re: [PD] $0-messages

2008-12-01 Thread Mike McGonagle
You need to do something like the attached... Dollar-signs in a message do not have the same contextual meaning as when used in other types of objects. In messages, they refer to the numbered argument in the list that is passed to them... Mike On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 7:53 PM, Jaime Oliver

[PD] list-sort

2008-12-01 Thread Michal Seta
Hi all, It is amazing how we take things for granted. Most programming languages provide some sort of list sorting function/method. Surprisingly (or not) pd does not (or my search skills are null, or I am not bleeding edge enough). I needed a solution that works with a vanilla pd. I was almost