Hello,
What is the object you used to load images with Gem ?
Have you tried to reduce the resolution of your images (to fit your
screen) before to load them ?
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Le 21/04/2014 17:03, Claire O'Connor a écrit :
Hi,
I am currently using GEM to create a slideshow of images and videos
pictures to fit your [gemwin] resolution...
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Le 21/04/2014 18:27, Claire O'Connor a écrit :
I used pix_image! I haven't tried that, but perhaps that might work. I
may just end up cutting down on my images.
It is strange though, because my 'sllideshow' is set to loop and when
it starts
the patch AND the abstraction.
And where are other objects like [gemwin] ? We are talking about Gem, no ?
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Le 16/04/2014 01:23, Nick Arner a écrit :
Hi Jack,
Thanks for the reply! I've attached the PD patch (it looks like the
attachment went through this time
OK, all is working now. ;)
But i can't help you, i don't know who is the author of this
abstraction, sorry.
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Le 16/04/2014 16:05, Nick Arner a écrit :
Hi Jack,
Yes, that was my mistake; I've now attached both the patch and the
abstraction.
Thanks!
Nick
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014
Hello,
Here an example.
Give us a patch instead of a PNG image it is more flexible to modify it
in Pd ;)
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Le 15/04/2014 15:24, kate sweeney a écrit :
Hello,
I have a main window with elevel subpatches which create visual
graphics in a GEM window. Is there a way in which I can
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Hello,
Please, send a Pd patch. I can't open it on my computer.
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Do you have an exemple of a patch with your font ? And can you send them to us ?
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Objet : [PD] windows and font
hello
I have a problem
a [receive ...]
arriving on the [gemhead].
Then, somewhere in your main patch, you put a radio button and test the
value return to activate a scene with [send ...].
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Hello Dominic,
Thanx for your answer.
Do you have an URL to check the model ?
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Le 30/03/2014 23:26, Dominic Melville a écrit :
Their own brand active Thomann pa speakers are actually pretty good.
Range in size from quite small to large models and last time I looked
were very cheap
Le 29/03/2014 15:43, Simon Wise a écrit :
On 29/03/14 22:56, Jack wrote:
Hello,
Is it possible to use BeagleBoard, Raspberry Pi, Udoo or others without
dropout with this configuration :
8 IR sensors
1 BeagleBoard (or Raspberry Pi, or Udoo or others) with Pd and linux
1 sound cards with 8
Hello,
I would like to use a Raspberry Pi with esi gigaport hd+ to broadcast
sounds for a piano stairs (8 speakers).
Do you know a good model of amplified speaker or speaker+PowerAmp for
this purpose ?
A cheap suggestion is welcome.
Best!
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speakers (so
it is possible to play 8 sounds at 44100 Hz 16 bits *simultaneously*).
If yes, can you tell me which model of sound card works well with these
cards ?
Thanx.
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To apply motion blur from a geo, I use two framebuffers
([gemframebuffer]). It is also possible to use [pix_snap] or
[pix_snap2tex]...
Here a small example attached.
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Le 11/03/2014 15:55, Alexandros Drymonitis a écrit :
If I want to apply, say motion blur to a geometric object that's
Hello,
I need help to understand this problem (see below) and solve it.
It seems to work fine with Pd-Ext 0.42.5 (but not with Pd-Ext 0.43.4).
Thanx.
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Le 16/04/2013 12:08, Marco Donnarumma a écrit :
I can confirm, the GUI doesn't show up at all on my machine too.
Linux Lucid 10.04 pd
these
patchs.
So, if i could solve this issue (using only [TuioClient] with Pd-Ext
0.43.4) it would be nice...
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Le 11/03/2014 17:47, Py Fave a écrit :
try tu use netreceive and osc as in joined patch
i had problems with tuioclient a long time ago on windows
2014-03-11 17:29 GMT+01:00 Jack
But, sure, with Pd-Ext 0.43.4, it is a good alternative ! ;)
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Le 11/03/2014 18:08, Jack a écrit :
Thanx for this patch Pierre-Yves. It works fine !
I just give a try with the new [netreceive -u -b ] + [unpackOSC]
and it seems to work fine too.
I know it is not difficult
Hello Jonathan,
Thanx for the explanations. I will dig in this c++ code.
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Le 11/03/2014 18:23, Jonathan Wilkes a écrit :
On 03/11/2014 12:29 PM, Jack wrote:
Hello,
I need help to understand this problem (see below) and solve it.
It seems to work fine with Pd-Ext 0.42.5
Hello Martin,
It should be quite simple with a [trigger] to get a bang when
[folder_list] and [pix_buffer] have finished their job.
To simplify :
[t b b b]
| | |
| | [folder_list]
| |
| [pix_buffer]
|
final bang
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Le 05/03/2014 22:59, Martin Eckart a écrit :
Hi all,
I'm
Here an example...
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Le 06/03/2014 11:24, Jack a écrit :
Hello Martin,
It should be quite simple with a [trigger] to get a bang when
[folder_list] and [pix_buffer] have finished their job.
To simplify :
[t b b b]
| | |
| | [folder_list]
| |
| [pix_buffer]
|
final
Did you try with Ubuntu 13.04 ?
With this version, I don't get crash when i create an object or when the
object doesn't exist. I have to admit, i get crash in very rare cases,
so it is not totally fixed yet (but it is better when i was with Ubuntu
12.04).
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Le 05/03/2014 21:03, Pierre
Oups, i wanted to say 'Ubuntu 13.10'.
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Le 05/03/2014 21:28, Jack a écrit :
Did you try with Ubuntu 13.04 ?
With this version, I don't get crash when i create an object or when
the object doesn't exist. I have to admit, i get crash in very rare
cases, so it is not totally fixed yet
Hello Katja,
I just try pd-double, and I have to say it is very nice to play long
soundfile with [soundfiler] :)
Where can i find list of libraries that use double float that i can use
with pd-double ?
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Hello,
I tried to compile Cyclone library (in miXed directory from SVN) but get
errors...
In Makefile.common, i changed :
PD_DIR ?= $(ROOT_DIR)/../../pd/src
by
PD_DIR = /home/jack/Téléchargements/pd-0.45-0test2/src
After :
$ cd ~/pure-data/externals/miXed/cyclone
$ make
I get :
gcc -Wall -W
fine.
See patch attached.
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Le 25/01/2014 18:39, Martin Peach a écrit :
On 2014-01-25 12:03, Jack wrote:
It looks like that is not possible.
Would it be doable to add that feature to [binfile] because I need to
read the first bytes of files 3 Gigabytes ?
For example a message like
[read file.ext 200{
|
[binfile
.
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It looks like that is not possible.
Would it be doable to add that feature to [binfile] because I need to
read the first bytes of files 3 Gigabytes ?
Thanx.
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Any help is welcome.
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then :
$ aconnect 128:1 20:0
Now, how can i keep this configuration each time i reboot my laptop ?
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Le 21/01/2014 12:18, Jack a écrit :
Hello,
I need your help :)
I try to use my M-Audio Uno MIDI interface with Pd, but it doesn't work.
I tried this three command to be sure that my MIDI
Thanx Dan and IOhannes for your solutions !
I will try them as soon as possible.
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Le 21/01/2014 23:09, Dan Wilcox a écrit :
Oh woops. You want to call that in ~/.bash_login, not ~/bash_profile.
On Jan 21, 2014, at 3:17 PM, Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.com
mailto:danomat...@gmail.com
expect ?
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Did you install libtool ?
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Le 18/01/2014 02:09, Max a écrit :
Hi List,
I am on Linux Mint 16 Cinnamon 64Bit and i want to compile Pd 0.45. Here
is my experience:
pd-0.45-3/
$ ./autogen.sh
autoreconf: Entering directory `.'
autoreconf: configure.ac: not using Gettext
Hello Jong,
See patch attached, it could help you...
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Le 16/01/2014 12:06, Jonghyun Kim a écrit :
Hi list,
For OSC communication, I wonder to know how to do it.
My original list(not exactly list but I say so) is:
*test 1 2 3*
Prepend symbols are: (prepend twice or more)
*/abc
) to a [mass mob 1 10 0 0 0(
i expect an interaction with the plane when the position Y of the mass
mob is (around) 4.0.
Is it still true ?
If not, what are the good arguments for [iPlane] to get an interaction
with the mass at (0, 4, 0) ?
Patch is attached.
Thanx.
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OK, thanx for the clarification.
Now, it is working fine !
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Le 06/01/2014 20:45, Cyrille Henry a écrit :
using interactor messages with pmpd* objects is like using interactors
objects with mass.
i.e : it did not create a fixed interaction like the link message
do. it create a one
...
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CPU :
- You can use 2 instances of Pd : one for the sound, the other for the
visual. Then you can use netsend/netreceive to send data between 2
instances.
- Another possibility : use [pd~]. See help about this object.
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On 2013-12-23 21:12, Jack wrote:
So it seems that it is possible to build pd-aubio without installing
aubio.
it seems so.
but in order to do so, you probably have to install aubio first
Hello Paul,
I tried to build pd-aubio but it failed.
I first build aubio 0.4.0 with :
$ ./waf --disable-avcodec configure
(because i get an error with libavcodec)
then :
$ ./waf build
(but don't want to install it)
and get :
Waf: Leaving directory `/home/jack/Téléchargements/aubio-0.4.0/build
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On 2013-12-23 16:35, Jack wrote:
Hello Paul,
I tried to build pd-aubio but it failed.
wild guess: since aubio and pd-aubio are now separate packages, i guess
that you have to have aubio [1
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Hello,
It should be possible to make a bash script where you would start xinput
and pd in background and get their PID.
Then use a loop to check if pd is still alive (with its PID), if not,
you kill xinput.
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Ya, better and simpler than to check if pd is still alive : keep pd in
foregroud ;)
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ELF class: ELFCLASS32
boids3d: can't load library
What can I do/change to use these objects under Pd ?
Here my configuration :
Pd 0.45.0test 2
Last boids sources from
svn://svn.code.sf.net/p/pure-data/svn/trunk/externals/boids
Thanx for help.
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Le 11/11/2013 16:00, Jack a écrit :
Hello,
After a 'make' I get boids2d.pd_linux and boids3d.pd_linux but can't
create objects under Pd.
When I try to create an object, i get in pd console :
./boids2d.pd_linux: ./boids2d.pd_linux: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32
boids2d: can't load library
for the essay. Hopefully my findings are useful for others and
hopefully I can get my rig working! Help muchly appreciated. I've probably
left out some crucial bit of info so please shout me if I have!
Cheers,
Chris Jack.
Chris Jack
*art/research*
http://itsmrjack.com/
*discus jockeying/sound art
Le 06/10/2013 22:13, Py Fave a écrit :
Hello , i just opened your last patch and am looking at it .
weanwhile i reply to your points
2013/10/6 Jack j...@rybn.org:
Hello,
Le 05/10/2013 22:51, Py Fave a écrit :
in fact my problem is not solved .
it seems like the feedback effect happens
- use [soundfile_info] from iemlib
- use [shell] with your favorite command line to get info on soundfile
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Also, yet, I don't know if readsf~ is the one that makes noises when
BlenderPlayer is rendering in 3D in full screen. I just thought that
the computer can't process that 3D rendering
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On 10/06/13 18:37, Jack wrote:
Hello,
I have a problem to use iem_tab library (tab_copy). I know about array
get/set but my old patch use tab_copy.
iem_tab compile fine.
When i open externals
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On 2013-10-07 13:53, Jack wrote:
I still get pd crash, even with iem_tab load first :
since when does your Pd crash? your original post only claimed that
the objects could not be created.
Since
Test with this one.
You should get the motion blur on the torus (here from your webcam).
Ifnot, there is a broblem somewhere else...
Le 06/10/2013 22:13, Py Fave a écrit :
Hello , i just opened your last patch and am looking at it .
weanwhile i reply to your points
2013/10/6 Jack j
Le 07/10/2013 14:33, Jack a écrit :
Le 07/10/2013 14:14, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit :
On 2013-10-07 13:53, Jack wrote:
I still get pd crash, even with iem_tab load first :
since when does your Pd crash? your original post only claimed that
the objects could not be created.
Yes, I
torus
with white trails.
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btw i'm on windows not my choice.
i have to share the screen with other programs wich are windows only
any help welcome once more .
Thanks
Pierre-Yves
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Maybe you are looking for something attached with this patch ?
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Le 05/10/2013 22:51, Py Fave a écrit :
in fact my problem is not solved .
it seems like the feedback effect happens everywhere but on the
surface drawn by the shader .
According to the patch, the feedback is applied on a [square 4] (where
directory externals/iem/iem_tab/, i have iem_tab.pd_linux
My configuration :
Pd 0.45.0test 2
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Use, format RGB32 instead of RGB for your framebufers.
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i was tired yesterday evening.
jack , i have a problem with your patch.
i had already similar problems before, that's why i wanted to use some
shader in the feedback
the texunit ID backbuffer to 0 in the patch.
You can change alpha feedback with the number box i added in the patch.
Hope it helps.
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This example could help, see attached.
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If you don't succeed with [pix_record], you should try with [pix_writer] or
[pix_write]. Then use a software to create your movie from several pictures.
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find a way to capture my gem window into a video file. I've
0.45.0
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Objet: Re: [PD] Gridflow and fonts on Raspberry Pi
Hello jack,
I don't know about raspberry, but it seems tcltk
in a fullscreen window via tcl (with
sys_gui object) works fine.
Thanx.
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[sys_gui] can replace a large bunch of external objects (zexy, toxy, cyclone,
moocow, ...), but a bit slower, and sometimes would require the need to use
[makefilename %c] for curved braces, but in most cases tcl's
title bar with pd).
I am on raspbian :
PRETTY_NAME=Raspbian GNU/Linux 7 (wheezy)
NAME=Raspbian GNU/Linux
VERSION_ID=7
VERSION=7 (wheezy)
Linux raspberrypi 3.6.11+ #538 PREEMPT Fri Aug 30 20:42:08 BST 2013
armv6l GNU/Linux
with Pd-0.45.2 () compiled 16:14:18 Sep 17 2013.
Thanx for any help.
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attached (when you disable for one part, you
need to enable after...).
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Can you send us a little patch with this problem ?
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Yes,it should be possible.
Have you a problem with that ?
If yes can you send us a little patch that illustrate this problem ?
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of this [spigot] directly in the [GEMglPopMatrix]. You
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GEMglPushMatrix/GEMglPopMatrix).
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Le 08/09/2013 00:51, Jack a écrit :
Le 07/09/2013 23:43, topo bot a écrit :
Hi again, im iterating a geo in Gem and then im anulating one iterated
geo using module with spigot.
It works fine, but when i add GEMglPushMatrix and GEMglPopMatrix i
get GL:stack overflow because each
is gonna be black.
In your counter, use a [mod 20] to loop two times from 0 to 19 (to read
your table which has 20 index).
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I was wondering which should be the best approach in pd to solve this problem.
I need that instead having black geos i need that it can loop the
values
Le 27/08/2013 19:15, Jack a écrit :
Le 27/08/2013 12:30, Max a écrit :
There is one little annoyance:
if you select a GUI object, right click fro the properties and then
go to change on of the fields in the dialog, you can't hit backspace,
because this deletes the object and closes
: 'properties' on
canvas then backspace on a field deleted the canvas.
But I can't reproduce it.
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platform like me, it
would be very nice to use v4l2 driver. This is free/open and a standard
on linux.
Are you working on this solution (to make v4l2 driver for your xiQ
USB3.0 camera) ?
Best!
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For peole interested in the xiQ cameras : Ximea API/Gstreamer have
worked during more
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[dac]
? :)
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Le 26/08/2013 21:54, hghoyer a écrit :
hi list,
does anyone has experience or tips to patch a realistc motorsound for
racing game prototyping?
i wants to experiment with some motorsound loops to create some real
engine noise...
for tips i'll be very
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Le 22/08/2013 21:03, IOhannes zmölnig a écrit :
On 08/22/2013 08:40 PM, Jack wrote:
$ cat /sys/devices/virtual/video4linux/video1/format
GREY?30:1280x1024@30
I expect 60 fps.
If i set :
$ v4l2-ctl -d /dev/video1 -p 60
or
$ v4l2-ctl
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Very funny animation, we can now design platform games directly in a
patch. ! ;)
More seriously, it could replace the [#see] object from gridflow,
interresting...
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be downloaded from :
http://www.ximea.com/support/wiki/apis/XIMEA_Linux_Software_Package
Thanx.
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#include sys/time.h
#include pthread.h
#include gtk/gtk.h
#ifdef GDK_WINDOWING_X11
#include gdk/gdkx.h
#endif
#include gst/app/gstappsrc.h
#include gst/interfaces/xoverlay.h
#include m3api/xiApi.h
Le 22/08/2013 16:36, Jonathan Wilkes a écrit :
On 08/22/2013 03:53 AM, Jack wrote:
Le 22/08/2013 07:13, Jonathan Wilkes a écrit :
Hi list,
I've got some updates to [canvasinfo], [pdinfo], and [classinfo]
that I'll put in a demo build either tomorrow or the next day.
I also added a new data
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On 08/22/13 16:13, Jack wrote:
Hello,
I would like to get the stream from a XIMEA camera using gstreamer.
There is an example (in the XIMEA Linux Software Package) that use
gstreamer to get
framework
just to make sure that this got through: you *really* should write to
XIMEA asking them to create proper v4l2 drivers (at least for their
USB-based cameras).
those companies often need some user feedback...
Yep. I will tonight.
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fgmasdr
IOhannes
Le 22/08/2013 17:10, Jack a écrit :
Le 22/08/2013 16:56, IOhannes m zmölnig a écrit :
On 08/22/13 16:51, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:
hmm, i'm sure this is really a problem which should be solved by XIMEA:
they ought to provide proper v4l2 drivers, rather than creating their
own framework
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On 08/22/13 17:08, Jack wrote:
a rather quick hack would be to change the gstreamer output from
autovideosink to v4l2sink device=/dev/video42 and recompile the
streamViewer.
this should allow
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On 08/22/13 17:31, Jack wrote:
It is exactly what i do but it doesn't work.
maybe you should clean the engines.
What does it mean clean the engines.
Thanx for your help.
it means that i have
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Le 22/08/2013 18:23, IOhannes m zmölnig a écrit :
On 08/22/13 18:05, Jack wrote:
When I compile streamViewer.cpp which contains the gstreamer pipe
finishing by : v4l2sink device=/dev/video2, i get no error.
And after :
$ ./streamViewer
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Le 22/08/2013 19:39, IOhannes m zmölnig a écrit :
On 08/22/13 18:40, Jack wrote:
Le 22/08/2013 18:23, IOhannes m zmölnig a écrit :
On 08/22/13 18:05, Jack wrote:
When I compile streamViewer.cpp which contains the gstreamer pipe
finishing
Le 22/08/2013 20:23, Jack a écrit :
Le 22/08/2013 19:39, IOhannes m zmölnig a écrit :
On 08/22/13 18:40, Jack wrote:
Le 22/08/2013 18:23, IOhannes m zmölnig a écrit :
On 08/22/13 18:05, Jack wrote:
When I compile streamViewer.cpp which contains the gstreamer pipe
finishing
of delay loops while keeping them in sync.
Objects/messages/comments have settable box widths.
Also various improvements in audio and midi handling:
The Pd window now tells you whether PD has an audio device open or not
Fixed hangups exiting when using jack
Got ASIO working again on PC
of delay loops while keeping them in sync.
Objects/messages/comments have settable box widths.
Also various improvements in audio and midi handling:
The Pd window now tells you whether PD has an audio device open or not
Fixed hangups exiting when using jack
Got ASIO working again on PC
to simplify the patch using this message.
See example attached.
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is the simplest but could be slow for your
hardware.
2) Use [gemframebuffer] to render off-screen and convert this
framebuffer into texture. Then use shaders (GLSL) to perform a
[pix_scanline] like. Try this method if the first is too slow.
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Hello,
You can do it with [makefilename], see example attached.
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Thanks!
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Maybe, something like that could help ?
(patch attached to this mail).
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Hello Max,
I have the same results than Antoine.
A screenshot is attached.
Configuration :
Ubuntu 13.04, Pd 0.44.3, Gem ver: 0.93.git 374f713.
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Ubuntu 13.04
Linux jack-GE60-0NC-0ND 3.8.0-19-generic #29-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 17
18:16:28 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
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Hello Antoine,
With the message [pd echo $!( to [shell], you should get the PID of
the subprocess. A [kill number_PID( to [shell] should kill this subprocess.
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Le 27/05/2013 04:10, Max a écrit :
Am 27.05.2013 um 02:57 schrieb Jack j...@rybn.org:
Le 27/05/2013 02:32, Max a écrit :
Am 27.05.2013 um 02:24 schrieb Jack j...@rybn.org:
Le 27/05/2013 01:26, Max a écrit :
Am 27.05.2013 um 01:00 schrieb Jack j...@rybn.org:
Le 26/05/2013 20:56, Max a écrit
Le 29/04/2013 12:26, Jack a écrit :
Hello,
I have installed Ubuntu 13.04 and Pd-0.44.3.
When i start Pd, Pd crash at startup.
If someone can help me to sove this problem...
Here the output with valgrind :
$ valgrind pd
==18223== Memcheck, a memory error detector
==18223== Copyright (C
the reason?
well, it's a Xorg crash.not a pd crash.
do you have an intel GPU?
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On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 5:49 AM, Cyrille Henry c...@chnry.net wrote:
hello,
for ubuntu user : don't update to 13.04!
on my computer and also on jack computer, pd can crash X server.
when creating an object
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