Re: [PD] Get list of a the arguments of a patch without using any external?

2011-03-30 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 7 Mar 2011, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: I know, but I think your suggestion is cleaner-- you can get then number of args by [$@(--[list length] so $# isn't needed, and as you point out, having a way of saying put args from $n and up in this object box is very useful. But what would be

Re: [PD] Get list of a the arguments of a patch without using any external?

2011-03-30 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
PS: the [delwrite~] clear method http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=3170987group_id=557 36atid=478072 is still assigned to nobody, because it's waiting for any of the five project admins to click on a button... It also didn't appear on pd-...@iem.at either :

Re: [PD] Get list of a the arguments of a patch without using any external?

2011-03-30 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Thu, 3/31/11, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Subject: Re: [PD] Get list of a the arguments of a patch without using any external? To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Thursday, March 31, 2011, 3:40 AM

Re: [PD] Get list of a the arguments of a patch without using any external?

2011-03-12 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 9 Mar 2011, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: so who is the most competent person for a certain ticket? and can we expect a submitter to know? There is no book. I don't know what you mean. I don't recall ever allowed to assign anything to anyone, in the 6 years or so that I had been on

Re: [PD] Get list of a the arguments of a patch without using any external?

2011-03-10 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 9 Mar 2011, Chris McCormick wrote: PS: the [delwrite~] clear method is still assigned to 'nobody', because it's waiting for any of the five project admins to click on a button... It implies that the application of the [delwrite~] clear method patch has been too slow for your liking,

Re: [PD] Get list of a the arguments of a patch without using any external?

2011-03-10 Thread Chris McCormick
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 12:43:01PM -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Wed, 9 Mar 2011, Chris McCormick wrote: PS: the [delwrite~] clear method is still assigned to 'nobody', because it's waiting for any of the five project admins to click on a button... It implies that the application of the

Re: [PD] Get list of a the arguments of a patch without using any external?

2011-03-09 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-03-08 20:08, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Tue, 8 Mar 2011, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: it's very simple: each patch is assigned to a person (well, let's assume it is). Why can we assume that each patch has been assigned to a person ?

Re: [PD] Get list of a the arguments of a patch without using any external?

2011-03-09 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 9 Mar 2011, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: On 2011-03-08 20:08, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Why can we assume that each patch has been assigned to a person ? (What has to happen before that step ?) it has to get assigned to a person. this can either be done at commit time or later. Excuse me 

Re: [PD] Get list of a the arguments of a patch without using any external?

2011-03-09 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-03-09 15:25, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: it has to get assigned to a person. this can either be done at commit time or later. Excuse me ? I thought that the process of assignation was just so that each ticket is handled by the person most

Re: [PD] Get list of a the arguments of a patch without using any external?

2011-03-08 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-03-08 08:02, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Tue, 8 Mar 2011, Chris McCormick wrote: Do you think that what you have written above is likely to increase or decrease your chances of getting those patches accepted more quickly? If I hadn't

Re: [PD] Get list of a the arguments of a patch without using any external?

2011-03-08 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 8 Mar 2011, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: iirc, this was discussed on the pd-dev list prior to enabling the feature. Is reading pd-dev a requirement for people who submit to the patchtracker ? ___ | Mathieu Bouchard

Re: [PD] Get list of a the arguments of a patch without using any external?

2011-03-08 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-03-08 06:34, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: I think a better question would be put to Miller or Hans, or the other admins-- can someone please explain how the patch review process works? it's very simple: each patch is assigned to a person

Re: [PD] Get list of a the arguments of a patch without using any external?

2011-03-08 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-03-08 09:47, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Tue, 8 Mar 2011, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: iirc, this was discussed on the pd-dev list prior to enabling the feature. Is reading pd-dev a requirement for people who submit to the patchtracker ?

Re: [PD] Get list of a the arguments of a patch without using any external?

2011-03-08 Thread Chris McCormick
On Mon, Mar 07, 2011 at 09:34:52PM -0800, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: --- On Tue, 3/8/11, Chris McCormick ch...@mccormick.cx wrote: Do you think that what you have written above is likely to increase or decrease your chances of getting those patches accepted more quickly? I ask this question

Re: [PD] Get list of a the arguments of a patch without using any external?

2011-03-08 Thread Chris McCormick
Hi, On Tue, Mar 08, 2011 at 12:13:10AM -0500, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: FWIW, I would say if a patch is good then it does not matter what he wrote. If it does matter, then it's everyone's loss... Interesting point, but I think it ignores the reality of writing software cooperatively. FLOSS is a

Re: [PD] Get list of a the arguments of a patch without using any external?

2011-03-08 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Tue, 3/8/11, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: From: IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] Get list of a the arguments of a patch without using any external? To: pd-list@iem.at Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2011, 9:51 AM -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash:

Re: [PD] Get list of a the arguments of a patch without using any external?

2011-03-08 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 8 Mar 2011, Chris McCormick wrote: This is not realistic. If you look at any large FLOSS project, patches lie dormant, are ignored, are rejected for the wrong reasons all of the time. Submit a patch to the Linux kernel and see what happens. Most likely it will be silently dropped.

Re: [PD] Get list of a the arguments of a patch without using any external?

2011-03-08 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 8 Mar 2011, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: it's very simple: each patch is assigned to a person (well, let's assume it is). Why can we assume that each patch has been assigned to a person ? (What has to happen before that step ?) whenever the assignee feels like it, they would browse

Re: [PD] Get list of a the arguments of a patch without using any external?

2011-03-08 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 8 Mar 2011, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: On 2011-03-08 09:47, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Tue, 8 Mar 2011, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: iirc, this was discussed on the pd-dev list prior to enabling the feature. Is reading pd-dev a requirement for people who submit to the patchtracker ? i

Re: [PD] Get list of a the arguments of a patch without using any external?

2011-03-08 Thread Chris McCormick
On Tue, Mar 08, 2011 at 12:31:43PM -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Tue, 8 Mar 2011, Chris McCormick wrote: This is not realistic. If you look at any large FLOSS project, patches lie dormant, are ignored, are rejected for the wrong reasons all of the time. Submit a patch to the Linux

[PD] Get list of a the arguments of a patch without using any external?

2011-03-07 Thread Alexandre Quessy
Hello everyone, I was wondering if there is a way in pure-vanilla Pd to retrieve the list of arguments of an abstraction. I use zexy's [dollarg] for this, but I'm making an effort to see if I can use Pd vanilla only for some abstractions. Is there a way to do this in Pd vanilla? Thanks, --

Re: [PD] Get list of a the arguments of a patch without using any external?

2011-03-07 Thread Miller Puckette
Sorry -- there's no way to do that! Miller On Mon, Mar 07, 2011 at 11:50:16AM -0500, Alexandre Quessy wrote: Hello everyone, I was wondering if there is a way in pure-vanilla Pd to retrieve the list of arguments of an abstraction. I use zexy's [dollarg] for this, but I'm making an effort to

Re: [PD] Get list of a the arguments of a patch without using any external?

2011-03-07 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-03-07 17:50, Alexandre Quessy wrote: Hello everyone, I was wondering if there is a way in pure-vanilla Pd to retrieve the list of arguments of an abstraction. I use zexy's [dollarg] for this, most likely not, as there is no such object in

Re: [PD] Get list of a the arguments of a patch without using any external?

2011-03-07 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
Can't you simply do [f $arg_num] or [symbol $arg_num] inside the patch for each of the arguments and send them out with a loadbang? Granted this won't generate a list buy you could easily pack it below. Ico -Original Message- From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at

Re: [PD] Get list of a the arguments of a patch without using any external?

2011-03-07 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Right. We discussed before somewhere on the list but I couldn't figure out where. Here's the same solution but only using a subpatch. Just use testab.pd as an abstraction, give it some args, and bang [pd get-my-args] to get your args. (Then just copy/paste [pd get-my-args] into any

Re: [PD] Get list of a the arguments of a patch without using any external?

2011-03-07 Thread Matt Barber
I think Jonathan Wilkes had a different approach as well, which I hope he'll post. MB On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Matt Barber brbrof...@gmail.com wrote: If you need to get the arguments to use within the abstraction instance itself, you can do it using the [list-argv] patch I've attached

Re: [PD] Get list of a the arguments of a patch without using any external?

2011-03-07 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 7 Mar 2011, Jack wrote: I just try to write an abstraction. I don't know if it could help you, it is just a try. Doesn't work with arguments that contain $0 or $1 or such. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél:

Re: [PD] Get list of a the arguments of a patch without using any external?

2011-03-07 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 7 Mar 2011, Miller Puckette wrote: Sorry -- there's no way to do that! Yes there is a way to do it, but it takes 5 hours to find out how to do it in pd, while it takes 5 minutes to edit the C code so that people can do it in pd in 5 seconds. But most of all it takes 0.5 second to

Re: [PD] Get list of a the arguments of a patch without using any external?

2011-03-07 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Mon, 3/7/11, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Subject: Re: [PD] Get list of a the arguments of a patch without using any external? To: Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Monday, March 7, 2011, 9:07 PM On Mon,

Re: [PD] Get list of a the arguments of a patch without using any external?

2011-03-07 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 7 Mar 2011, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: matju, How long would it take you to implement the $@ thingy that you commented on in the patch tracker? That would be a big step forward and would surely get included in pd-ext and pd-l2ork. (I would try my hand at it, but I move at turtle

Re: [PD] Get list of a the arguments of a patch without using any external?

2011-03-07 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Mon, 3/7/11, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Subject: Re: [PD] Get list of a the arguments of a patch without using any external? To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu, pd-list@iem.at Date:

Re: [PD] Get list of a the arguments of a patch without using any external?

2011-03-07 Thread Chris McCormick
On Mon, Mar 07, 2011 at 03:07:08PM -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Mon, 7 Mar 2011, Miller Puckette wrote: Sorry -- there's no way to do that! Yes there is a way to do it, but it takes 5 hours to find out how to do it in pd, while it takes 5 minutes to edit the C code so that people can

Re: [PD] Get list of a the arguments of a patch without using any external?

2011-03-07 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
FWIW, I would say if a patch is good then it does not matter what he wrote. If it does matter, then it's everyone's loss... Chris McCormick ch...@mccormick.cx wrote: On Mon, Mar 07, 2011 at 03:07:08PM -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Mon, 7 Mar 2011, Miller Puckette wrote: Sorry -- there's

Re: [PD] Get list of a the arguments of a patch without using any external?

2011-03-07 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Tue, 3/8/11, Chris McCormick ch...@mccormick.cx wrote: From: Chris McCormick ch...@mccormick.cx Subject: Re: [PD] Get list of a the arguments of a patch without using any external? To: pd-list@iem.at Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2011, 5:56 AM On Mon, Mar 07, 2011 at 03:07:08PM -0500,

Re: [PD] Get list of a the arguments of a patch without using any external?

2011-03-07 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 8 Mar 2011, Chris McCormick wrote: Do you think that what you have written above is likely to increase or decrease your chances of getting those patches accepted more quickly? If I hadn't written it, I wouldn't have been reminded of the existence of the delwrite patch in a manner