Re: [PD] puredatabase

2007-03-08 Thread robbert van hulzen
No, I didn't forget... But the discussion (eg Pluggo4PD) is getting to a point where I think wow, interesting! rather than I can help here. Here's a few thoughts anyway. More to show what goes on in the mind of someone who's just getting into the construction of the telescope after a bit of star

Re: [PD] puredatabase

2007-02-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Feb 8, 2007, at 10:05 AM, marius schebella wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I thought we (the potential users of the database) in this phase could brainstorm and discuss ideas on how we would like it. I think this should be generated from the meta data in the help files. For PDDP,

Re: [PD] puredatabase

2007-02-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Since we are talking about trying to get as many people involved in the documentation process as possible, it should be as straightforward as possible for Pd people to do it. If each chunk of meta data is a Pd selector series, where the selector defines the type of meta data, and the

Re: [PD] puredatabase

2007-02-08 Thread Steffen
On 07/02/2007, at 3.25, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: This is something that we have discussed a lot in the PDDP meetings. Basically, the idea is to have a [pd META] subpatch in every help file. That subpatch would contain metadata that is each contained in a single comment. Example

Re: [PD] puredatabase

2007-02-08 Thread marius schebella
two or three other arguments to keep that main base of help/object data outside of the pd helppatches: when we keep all data about objects in a central database then editing could be done online, probably with undo function, popdown menus, free tagging would be easier, because you can query all

Re: [PD] puredatabase

2007-02-07 Thread Steffen
On 07/02/2007, at 2.25, David Powers wrote: On 2/6/07, Steffen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And a suggestion: It might be good to debate here how the database should be designed to best do it job. Fx. would it be an idea to make a set of (not necessarily disjunkt/non-intersecting) categories/

Re: [PD] puredatabase

2007-02-07 Thread padawan12
On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 12:19:08 +0100 Steffen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought we (the potential users of the database) in this phase could brainstorm and discuss ideas on how we would like it. Good idea. One I thought of is to have a difficulty/level attribute. Some examples are too hard for

Re: [PD] puredatabase

2007-02-07 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Feb 7, 2007, at 6:19 AM, Steffen wrote: On 07/02/2007, at 2.25, David Powers wrote: On 2/6/07, Steffen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And a suggestion: It might be good to debate here how the database should be designed to best do it job. Fx. would it be an idea to make a set of (not

Re: [PD] puredatabase

2007-02-07 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Feb 8, 2007, at 5:05 AM, padawan12 wrote: On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 12:19:08 +0100 Steffen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought we (the potential users of the database) in this phase could brainstorm and discuss ideas on how we would like it. Good idea. One I thought of is to have a

Re: [PD] puredatabase

2007-02-07 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Feb 6, 2007, at 8:25 PM, David Powers wrote: On 2/6/07, Steffen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And a suggestion: It might be good to debate here how the database should be designed to best do it job. Fx. would it be an idea to make a set of (not necessarily disjunkt/non-intersecting) categories/

Re: [PD] puredatabase

2007-02-06 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
I am also interested. I believe that the PDDP is a good prospect for this sort of contribution. ~Kyle On 2/6/07, robbert van hulzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: please keep us posted on this. i'd like to be one of those non-code-interfering volunteers that write / work out documentation. and the

Re: [PD] puredatabase

2007-02-06 Thread Steffen
On 05/02/2007, at 17.12, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: apart from that: personally i am not convinced that the database should be created on the fly from CVS for various reasons: - code would have to follow a certain outline in order to make this work Ok. I thought that such outline was

Re: [PD] puredatabase

2007-02-06 Thread David Powers
On 2/6/07, Steffen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And a suggestion: It might be good to debate here how the database should be designed to best do it job. Fx. would it be an idea to make a set of (not necessarily disjunkt/non-intersecting) categories/ labels objects/libs could fit in - like math,

Re: [PD] puredatabase

2007-02-06 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
That is great, this is what the PDDP is all about! We are just working on finalizing a template for help files, then it should be quite straightforward to start work on this in a substantial way. The next step would be to test the template out by porting some existing help patches to

[PD] puredatabase

2007-02-05 Thread Luigi Rensinghoff
Hi list little quesion concerning the puredatabase.. looks like it is offline and some guys are working in something new and fresh. What can i do in between I found the tgz file but how can i use it ? Thanks Luigi ___ PD-list@iem.at

Re: [PD] puredatabase

2007-02-05 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Luigi Rensinghoff wrote: Hi list little quesion concerning the puredatabase.. looks like it is offline and some guys are working in something new and fresh. What can i do in between depends on what you can offer ;-) help with database-design and -maintenance might be appreciated.

Re: [PD] puredatabase

2007-02-05 Thread Steffen
On 05/02/2007, at 15.10, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: help with database-design and -maintenance might be appreciated. I guess a list of object and there relation can be fetched by parsing the code in CVS. The metadata could provide some description but not per object except for the cases

Re: [PD] puredatabase

2007-02-05 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Steffen wrote: On 05/02/2007, at 15.10, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: help with database-design and -maintenance might be appreciated. I guess a list of object and there relation can be fetched by parsing the code in CVS. The metadata could provide some description but not per object

Re: [PD] puredatabase

2007-02-05 Thread Steffen
On 05/02/2007, at 16.04, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Steffen wrote: On 05/02/2007, at 15.10, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: help with database-design and -maintenance might be appreciated. I guess a list of object and there relation can be fetched by parsing the code in CVS. The metadata

Re: [PD] puredatabase

2007-02-05 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Steffen wrote: I guess a list of object and there relation can be fetched by parsing the code in CVS. The metadata could provide some description but not per object except for the cases where an external only have one object (or this i don't understand. I thought that the description was