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Hi all, Yves,
Here are some facts may help
Hi all, Yves,
Here are some facts may help explain and paint a correct picture of the
convention's gender distribution.
Number of applications received for the exhibition component :
9 (F)
26 (M)
Invitations sent :
6 (F)
12 (M)
Number of applications for performances (* I am unsure as to the
On 10/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ola,
Honestly I wasn't even sure this sevy was really Yves, and for that
matter I
know nothing about Yves. As I said- the original statement was
completely
untrue; and the original poster hasn't responded to that fact. I
I see you found the thread yourself, while I was running around trying to
find work instead of staying updated.
On 10/17/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
and about feminist jokes. well you know feminism is in total discredit, is
not fashionable anymore but the conditions for
Hello, just a parenthesis to make things clear, :),
Chuckk Hubbard a écrit :
I wasn't aware that women didn't participate. My few exchanges with
Patrice convinced me she knows far more than I about computers and
especially Pd, but for a year or two I had no idea what her sex was. As
On 10/18/07, Patrice Colet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello, just a parenthesis to make things clear, :),
Chuckk Hubbard a écrit :
I wasn't aware that women didn't participate. My few exchanges with
Patrice convinced me she knows far more than I about computers and
especially Pd, but for
Equality is equality, and doesn't need another name. If a man is treated
badly for his gender, does he have less right to justice because he is a
member of a group less often treated badly? Maybe not in theory, but in
many people's actions, yes. I believe in equal rights, but I don't
On 10/18/07, Kevin McCoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Equality is equality, and doesn't need another name. If a man is treated
badly for his gender, does he have less right to justice because he is a
member of a group less often treated badly? Maybe not in theory, but in
many people's
On 10/18/07, Yves Degoyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ola,
this is an excellent summing up of all that is wrong here...
i didn't except to find soo much c.r.a.p. under the carpet ..
you can call me a troll, but i don't think i'm so braindead
[maybe tired].
You never did explain why you
In my defense (for my instigative comments earlier in the thread), im
not macho/sexist in any way, I am simply lewd, loud and obnoxious and
enjoy cynical humor, because the joke is not the joke, its the fact
that some genuinely may laugh at it. Some may even call me an
asshole, but hey, at
Patrice Colet a écrit :
-once a pd friend said that his professor said that women can't do sound
because is too abstract for them, they need the materiality of visuals
so Zeena Parkins, Laurie Anderson, ... never did anything..
Yeah! Superman is a great (and certainly one of the best)
hey!
Yves Degoyon a écrit :
ola,
in fact, i do more of the visuals now
but we don't use video anymore,
text is more interesting.
I'd like to ask you something*.
What are you working on?
Is (and how it is) it related with sound?
-once a pd friend said that his professor said that
On 10/18/07, Chuckk Hubbard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 10/18/07, Yves Degoyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ola,
this is an excellent summing up of all that is wrong here...
i didn't except to find soo much c.r.a.p. under the carpet ..
you can call me a troll, but i don't think i'm so
On 10/19/07, Charles Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 10/18/07, Chuckk Hubbard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 10/18/07, Yves Degoyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ola,
this is an excellent summing up of all that is wrong here...
i didn't except to find soo much c.r.a.p. under the
.·:*¨¨*:·.darsha.·:*¨¨*:·. a écrit :
Hi people
If this thread has to continue please feel free to substitute the word
'girls' for 'women' or 'sisters' even.
all Right! all right! sista!
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You absolutely have a valid opinion, its' good to hear it on this
list. Now it seems that this thread is actually getting somewhere.
I had decided to ignore it, so I didn't realize the depths it had
fallen to.
I also have a strong distaste for the gang bang talk and macho
programming.
most ISMs turn into cottage industries IMHO, feminism is definitely among them
for the record my C++ teacher was a woman, and in Supercollider class we were
pretty much 50/50 men and women, sharing ideas and helping each other with code.
people make mistakes and students can be cruel, but i no
On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 23:22 -0700, Alicia Byer wrote:
Hi everybody,
Maybe I have no valid opinion because I just lurk on this list, but I
don't appreciate being called girl either, I'm in my mid-twenties
also. And as far as the thread making anybody's skin crawl, I agree with
Darsh. The
I forgot to add, I think there are very few people on this list who
are deliberately trying to exclude people. There are a wide range of
cultures involved in this list, and some things that are not a big
deal in some places are quite offensive in others. And email is
never a good
I propose another Topic, the PoorDeveloppement of PD :P :D
About this offtopic: please, no sexism, no racism, no specism, that's all
2007/10/17, Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I forgot to add, I think there are very few people on this list who are
deliberately trying to
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
So in the hopes of sharing Pd, I hope we can keep that in mind when
posting. I know I learned a lesson when I said hey guys on this list
in the past. In California (where I grew up), men and women, feminists
and not, commonly use hey guys to
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
It seems that computer music is one of the last bastions of male
dominance, I mean even most Linux events are at least 20% female, not so
in the computer music world.
It must be quite dependent on the actual school, but I know that not far
hello again
On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 08:23 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
let me switch in again. it was not my intention to stop a thread in a
dictatorship way. i just noticed, that the discussion meandered through
very different subject-matters, that weren't related anymore at all to
the
so to hell if you're not concerned how girls are treated
in the pd community ( actually just as meat and object of greasy jokes ),
so again, yeh, sorry, they won't participate to nothing here!
yves,
I haven't noticed anything offensive on the list like you describe (maybe
you're mixing life
yves,
I haven't noticed anything offensive on the list like you describe (maybe
you're mixing life on the streets with life on the pd-list? :))
hi David and all,
I don't know if you didn't follow some threads but here are some examples
of greasy jokes:
From: João Miguel Pais [EMAIL
there's no 'PLEASE STOP' there is 'YES PLEASE HURT ME!',
that's all we can take here.
That's funny... yes please hurt me is also my safe word
(just a little joke to illustrate how some 'fringe' vernacular enters
into common usage... we all know what that means)
but it is really kind of
As Roman already so eloquently suggested
EVERYONE PLEASE STOP THIS NOW.
You're all adults enough that no one needs to get the last word in. I hope.
Thanks,
derek
--
derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ::: http://blog.myspace.com/macumbista
---Oblique Strategy # 164:
Twist the spine
Seems to me it's been a pretty civil discussion. Way off-topic, definitely,
but not terribly aggressive.
I don't understand telling people not to talk about something. Whether or
not we are all adults, we are all capable of deciding for ourselves what we
want to say and read.
-Chuckk
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