Re: [PD] gt~ and lt~ (similar to zexy ~, ~) and between~

2007-10-03 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Enrique Erne wrote: hi community i patched a prototype for a gigatable abstraction to overcome the 16777216 sample limit http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2007-09/053479.html as a side product i got some abs that could be useful.. [between~] with 2 arguments to specify a

Re: [PD] translations for pdpedia templates

2007-10-03 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
marius schebella wrote: heute schon nachrichten geschaut? I am not sure about nachrichten, but the rest is ok for me. m. same for me: i don't think that nachrichten is the correct translation. probably Signale would be better, if signals wasn't already used for something else... how do you

Re: [PD] translations for pdpedia templates

2007-10-03 Thread João Miguel Pais
what happens now? do you put the information somewhere, or must we copy/paste elsewhere? what happens when a good enough translation has been found? is a page created by the language admin like the one in the turkish version?

Re: [PD] Trying to implement switch ramp

2007-10-03 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Roman Haefeli hat gesagt: // Roman Haefeli wrote: On Tue, 2007-10-02 at 13:52 -0400, Thomas O Fredericks wrote: Actually, it kind of works, but there is an annoying glitch (when you replace the lines with vlines inside mix.switch.ramp~ the clicking is even worse). [line~] and

Re: [PD] side effects

2007-10-03 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, marius schebella hat gesagt: // marius schebella wrote: one of the side effects of pdpedia is that with the overview of all the objects there are also a lot of objects that are ~buggy that are not working. especially flatspace makes problems. help-patches are not showing up, many

Re: [PD] side effects

2007-10-03 Thread João Miguel Pais
isn't it possible to make a comment section, where such problems can be indicated? one of the side effects of pdpedia is that with the overview of all the objects there are also a lot of objects that are ~buggy that are not working. especially flatspace makes problems. help-patches are

Re: [PD] PDCon07 peer review process

2007-10-03 Thread marius schebella
ola yves, 1) you are wrong 2) the way in which you write is on a personal violating style. number 1 is not a problem. marius. Yves Degoyon wrote: hop, i dunno if i should be more honest here: i don't think we need any curator in a digital community like this, what is that introduced

Re: [PD] side effects

2007-10-03 Thread marius schebella
not only a settings problem. many objects are broken. at least on os x. and for some it is not possible to rightclick, like entry or popup. the rest is a settings problem, true. marius. Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, marius schebella hat gesagt: // marius schebella wrote: one of the side

Re: [PD] translations for pdpedia templates

2007-10-03 Thread marius schebella
hi, the translation is used to label the standard textfields in the infobox and the raw pages. with that information it is possible to create a basic version of a language wiki. the next thing is to translate content. maybe start with general pages or objects that are often used, or do it

Re: [PD] PDCon07 peer review process

2007-10-03 Thread Yves Degoyon
marius schebella wrote: ola yves, 1) you are wrong it's a bit short here, i perfectly know what i say when i say a FLOSS community should _never_ be ruled by curators.. look at piksel, if you want, it's a perfectly running event without anyone named a 'curator', they are _part_ of the

Re: [PD] Trying to implement switch ramp

2007-10-03 Thread Thomas O Fredericks
vsnapshot~? Where can I find it's help? (I use Ubuntu PD(not extended) and PD 0.40-2) I still see inconsistencies in the patch I submitted I will try to make something a little clearer: please try the new attached patches and tell me why the little bit before the ramp changes size (I suspect

Re: [PD] Trying to implement switch ramp

2007-10-03 Thread Thomas O Fredericks
Are there any objects to make ramps smaller than one second? Tom On 10/3/07, Thomas O Fredericks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: vsnapshot~? Where can I find it's help? (I use Ubuntu PD(not extended) and PD 0.40-2) I still see inconsistencies in the patch I submitted I will try to make something

Re: [PD] timestretching for slicer

2007-10-03 Thread hard off
roman, sorry i use gmail, which has a nice threaded view for mail. i forgot that not everyone gets this function. derek wrote: Time stretching is usually done one of two ways, both of which involve a kind of windowing of the array: you can use an FFT analysis (of which there are examples

Re: [PD] timestretching for slicer

2007-10-03 Thread Derek Holzer
Hey there, hard off wrote: derek came and dashed all of my hopes with: Not right now, but if you look at the subpatch connected to the [grid] object in ParticleChamber, you can probably work it out yourself. Of course, beat-analysis not included, it's just the raw timestretching. Hope I

Re: [PD] PDCon07 peer review process

2007-10-03 Thread Yves Degoyon
marius schebella wrote: I think Pd community is not a closed circle, users only, and there is also not a first level pd user and second level pd user. ?? out of context.. a chairman is not a curator, he speaks for the interests of a community and not for his own. I think that it is a

Re: [PD] timestretching for slicer

2007-10-03 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Tue, 2007-10-02 at 23:18 +0900, hard off wrote: cool!!! Can you post a simple patch that does abelton-esue time-stretching on a loop? Isn't the technique demonstrated in the Pd help patches B14.sampler.rockafella.pd? Or have I misunderstood the question? Jamie -- www.postlude.co.uk

Re: [PD] PDCon07 peer review process

2007-10-03 Thread marius schebella
Yves Degoyon wrote: marius schebella wrote: I think Pd community is not a closed circle, users only, and there is also not a first level pd user and second level pd user. ?? out of context.. yves, these are three statements from your postings: what is that introduced arbitrary

Re: [PD] translations for pdpedia templates

2007-10-03 Thread Max Neupert
hi iohannes, marius, i think roman is correct with “Nachrichten” like in: „eine Nachricht verschicken an...“ not like in watching the news though. ;] m Am 03.10.2007 um 02:49 schrieb IOhannes m zmoelnig: marius schebella wrote: heute schon nachrichten geschaut? I am not sure about

Re: [PD] timestretching for slicer

2007-10-03 Thread Derek Holzer
No, he's talking about changing sample length and pitch independently. Or changing length without changing pitch at all. This is done with FFT or granulation, not just changing the playback rate alone. best, d. Jamie Bullock wrote: On Tue, 2007-10-02 at 23:18 +0900, hard off wrote: cool!!!

Re: [PD] PDCon07 peer review process

2007-10-03 Thread Martin Peach
marius schebella wrote: btw, who/what is khanawake? It's part of Canada's version of the apartheid system: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kahnawake,_Quebec Martin ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -

Re: [PD] PDCon07 peer review process

2007-10-03 Thread Yves Degoyon
Martin Peach wrote: marius schebella wrote: btw, who/what is khanawake? It's part of Canada's version of the apartheid system: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kahnawake,_Quebec Martin exactly ! wikipedia is very good indeed, but they have full-time people reviewing the texts... it's

Re: [PD] linux - faster load first time

2007-10-03 Thread Miller Puckette
Hmm, now has anyone noticed that Pd (first time after booting) starts up progressively more slowly over the months you own a linux machine? I'm suspicious that there's a correlation with how much software you have loaded on the machine. Maybe having lots of shared libraries and programs to use

Re: [PD] translations for pdpedia templates

2007-10-03 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Max Neupert wrote: hi iohannes, marius, i think roman is correct with “Nachrichten” like in: „eine Nachricht verschicken an...“ not like in watching the news though. ;] well obviously. the question is whether we should translate pure data as reine daten (rein as in reines wasser, not as

Re: [PD] linux - faster load first time

2007-10-03 Thread Tim Blechmann
one could avoid the dynamic linking by prelinking the binary ... t On Wed, 2007-10-03 at 09:15 -0700, Miller Puckette wrote: Hmm, now has anyone noticed that Pd (first time after booting) starts up progressively more slowly over the months you own a linux machine? I'm suspicious that

Re: [PD] side effects

2007-10-03 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
marius schebella wrote: not only a settings problem. many objects are broken. at least on os x. broken in which way? and for some it is not possible to rightclick, like entry or popup. is this broken behaviour or just missing feature? mfgasdr IOhannes

Re: [PD] side effects

2007-10-03 Thread marius schebella
IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: marius schebella wrote: not only a settings problem. many objects are broken. at least on os x. broken in which way? show up in the pd-extended release but cannot be created. and for some it is not possible to rightclick, like entry or popup. is this broken

Re: [PD] PDCon07 peer review process

2007-10-03 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 3 Oct 2007, Martin Peach wrote: marius schebella wrote: btw, who/what is khanawake? It's part of Canada's version of the apartheid system: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kahnawake,_Quebec While you are on Wikipedia could you please look up Apartheid and tell me wtf it has to do with

Re: [PD] translations for pdpedia templates

2007-10-03 Thread João Miguel Pais
the question is whether we should translate pure data as reine daten (rein as in reines wasser, not as in rheingold). or saubere daten? sauber machen, gell? ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -

Re: [PD] side effects

2007-10-03 Thread Charles Henry
about pdpedia features: Could there be a good way to cross-index (in pdpedia) with bug reports, and show how they were fixed? Most user problems get posted to pd-list, and any unresolved issues get placed in the reports. A comment section is likely to be plagued with ambiguous user problems and

Re: [PD] side effects

2007-10-03 Thread marius schebella
hi, I think of pdpedia more like an encyclopedia. but I think a discussion forum for bugs and comments beside the mailing list is a good idea. the cross linking can by done by linking to mails in the pd-list archives and vice versa. still, I think bugs should be mentioned in the pdpedia pages.

Re: [PD] side effects

2007-10-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
You can browse for help patches in the help browser. But yes, things are a mess. :D .hc On Oct 3, 2007, at 8:28 AM, marius schebella wrote: not only a settings problem. many objects are broken. at least on os x. and for some it is not possible to rightclick, like entry or popup. the

Re: [PD] translations for pdpedia templates

2007-10-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 2, 2007, at 6:08 PM, João Miguel Pais wrote: Wikipedia PT has both, with Template as an alias. Among designers, teachers and etc I always heard template. Do these hard cases have to be 100% decided now? I can ask a portuguese programmer to have a look at it at some point. It's

Re: [PD] side effects

2007-10-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Yes, definitely! This is one of the main reasons why I am interested in the pdpedia. .hc On Oct 3, 2007, at 8:08 AM, João Miguel Pais wrote: isn't it possible to make a comment section, where such problems can be indicated? one of the side effects of pdpedia is that with the

Re: [PD] timestretching for slicer

2007-10-03 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Wed, 2007-10-03 at 16:36 +0200, Derek Holzer wrote: No, he's talking about changing sample length and pitch independently. Or changing length without changing pitch at all. This is done with FFT or granulation, ...but that's exactly what sampler-rockafella does. not just changing the

Re: [PD] sfread4~

2007-10-03 Thread Andy Farnell
required missing /lib/tls/libc.so.6 my bad I know , but just to say a static would be nicer :) cheers, a. On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 18:58:32 +0200 Orm Finnendahl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, needing sfread~ with a signal inlet for varispeed and 4 point interpolation I reworked Günter Geigers

[PD] sfread4~

2007-10-03 Thread Orm Finnendahl
Hi all, needing sfread~ with a signal inlet for varispeed and 4 point interpolation I reworked Günter Geigers object and renamed it to sfread4~ (hope you don't mind, Günter and thanks for the original code!). I didn't test it for negative speeds (it might get screwed up using it), but it seems

Re: [PD] translations for pdpedia templates

2007-10-03 Thread Max Neupert
what about some other germanophones on the list cast their ballot on this question? frank, what's your opinion? i taught pd to german speaking non-nerds with russian as their second language and i think they appreciated that i used nachrichten instead of messages.. but maybe you're right

Re: [PD] timestretching for slicer

2007-10-03 Thread martin brinkmann
a while ago i have built a little, 'quick and dumb' beatloop which uses not exactly the same techniques used in live (it is missing the tempo-warp-stuff), but does basicly the same thing as reaktor and acid do. without any analysis though, so transients are not taken into acount. i have built

Re: [PD] translations for pdpedia templates

2007-10-03 Thread João Miguel Pais
Among designers, teachers and etc I always heard template. Do these hard cases have to be 100% decided now? I can ask a portuguese programmer to have a look at it at some point. It's up to you, I don't speak Portuguese :D no, but you did a nice job correcting my portuguese 1) send your

[PD] Keybang for Gem in Fullscreen

2007-10-03 Thread Peter Forde
Helo, I am trying to run a fullscreen video system. I need to ocasionaly change a value without jumping out of the Fullscreen Gem window. It seems to select the Gem window instead and so the keybang is lost. Any suggestions.? Thanks Peter

Re: [PD] Trying to implement switch ramp

2007-10-03 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2007-10-03 at 09:30 -0400, Thomas O Fredericks wrote: Are there any objects to make ramps smaller than one second? you mean smaller than one millisecond? [vline~] can do it for sure. roman ___ Der

Re: [PD] Trying to implement switch ramp

2007-10-03 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2007-10-03 at 09:26 -0400, Thomas O Fredericks wrote: vsnapshot~? Where can I find it's help? (I use Ubuntu PD(not extended) and PD 0.40-2) there is no help-file for [vsnapshot~] yet, afaik. but the way it works could probably be derived from the name, respectively from the 'v' in its

Re: [PD] translations for pdpedia templates

2007-10-03 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2007-10-03 at 10:39 -0400, Max Neupert wrote: hi iohannes, marius, i think roman is correct with “Nachrichten” like in: „eine Nachricht verschicken an...“ not like in watching the news though. ;] yo, actually i don't have an opinion on this. first i proposed 'messages', but then

Re: [PD] gt~ and lt~ (similar to zexy ~, ~) and between~

2007-10-03 Thread Enrique Erne
On Mer Oct 3 8:45 , IOhannes m zmoelnig sent: Enrique Erne wrote: hi community i patched a prototype for a gigatable abstraction to overcome the 16777216 sample limit http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2007-09/053479.html as a side product i got some abs that could be

Re: [PD] gt~ and lt~ (similar to zexy ~, ~) and between~

2007-10-03 Thread Derek Holzer
Hi Enrique, Enrique Erne wrote: the ~ ~ seems to be pretty much standard, will they ever make it into pd-vanilla or is there a license issue? Actually, on some systems there's an object name issue. I've seen many cases on Windows, and some on OS X, where and cannot be used in a filename,

Re: [PD] gt~ and lt~ (similar to zexy ~, ~) and between~

2007-10-03 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 01:02 +0200, Derek Holzer wrote: Hi Enrique, Enrique Erne wrote: the ~ ~ seems to be pretty much standard, will they ever make it into pd-vanilla or is there a license issue? Actually, on some systems there's an object name issue. I've seen many cases on

[PD] [zexy]: is there a changelog?

2007-10-03 Thread Roman Haefeli
hi IOhannes i just realized, that updating zexy from 2.1 to 2.2.0 was the reason, why one of my patches broke. somehow my mind is not very clear and i have troubles finding the source of the problem. that is why i ask for a changelog in order to see which object have changed and what has changed

Re: [PD] gt~ and lt~ (similar to zexy ~, ~) and between~

2007-10-03 Thread Derek Holzer
Hi Roman, Roman Haefeli wrote: just for the record: it will not create in pd-extended (or with externals compiled in libdir format), but it will with externals as library. Ah! That's good to know. And of course it makes sense, if zexy.pd_$OS has no or in the filename, there's no reason

Re: [PD] timestretching for slicer

2007-10-03 Thread Patrice Colet
hard off a écrit : cool!!! Can you post a simple patch that does abelton-esue time-stretching on a loop? Make it simple might be very difficult because ableton uses several kinds of time stretching, you can simply pitch the sound, or use the rockafella timestretching patch in the tutorial,

Re: [PD] gt~ and lt~ (similar to zexy ~, ~) and between~

2007-10-03 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 13:03 +0100, Andy Farnell wrote: On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 01:16:03 +0200 Roman Haefeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: personally, i think as well, that these objects are good candidates to be inlcuded to pd-vanilla, as well as these: [abs~], [sgn~] roman Would get my

Re: [PD] PDCon07 peer review process

2007-10-03 Thread Patrice Colet
Hello, Andrew Brouse a écrit : At the end of the day, I justified it to myself this way: free and open-source tools like Pd are increasingly essential for musicians and artists to do their work. As someone who used to work in sculpture with wood, stone and steel, I know intimately

Re: [PD] GEM source

2007-10-03 Thread chris clepper
GEM CVS: http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=64325 Also, they are .cpp files so you need a bit of C++ knowledge to work with them. On 10/3/07, Jaime Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello I am trying to find a .c file for the pix objects in GEM, i think it is something easy, but can't find

Re: [PD] GEM source

2007-10-03 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2007-10-03 at 17:55 -0700, Jaime Oliver wrote: Hello I am trying to find a .c file for the pix objects in GEM, i think it is something easy, but can't find them in extra/Gem, where i thought they would be, http://gem.iem.at/ roman

[PD] GEM source

2007-10-03 Thread Jaime Oliver
Hello I am trying to find a .c file for the pix objects in GEM, i think it is something easy, but can't find them in extra/Gem, where i thought they would be, j -- Jaime E Oliver LR [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.realidadvisual.org/jaimeoliver www-crca.ucsd.edu/ www.realidadvisual.org 9168 Regents

Re: [PD] Music made with Pd...

2007-10-03 Thread Collin Oldham
Thanks for you interest Andy! I must say, I appreciate all the work that you have shared; it's been helpful to me in learning Pd. The rubber band sound is a 3 dimensional physical model of a rubber band that I made in matlab and ported to Pd. No, I'm just kidding, of course you are right,

Re: [PD] linux - faster load first time

2007-10-03 Thread ild0012
On Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 09:15:06AM -0700, Miller Puckette wrote: Hmm, now has anyone noticed that Pd (first time after booting) starts up progressively more slowly over the months you own a linux machine? I'm suspicious that there's a correlation with how much software you have loaded on the

Re: [PD] PDCon07 peer review process

2007-10-03 Thread oyuki
Damm i always believe i was a high level pd user. :( On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 10:05:50 -0400, marius schebella [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I think Pd community is not a closed circle, users only, and there is also not a first level pd user and second level pd user. a chairman is not a curator, he

[PD] Tk GUI script (pd.tk) questions ..

2007-10-03 Thread ild0012
Hello list. I'd like to ask those of you who knows Tk/Tcl very well. I have attempted and succeed changing pd.tk for my personal use .. i added extra key biddings and removed menubars .. well, Romain gave me the no-scroll + no-menu script i have few thoughts .. if we could set the menu as