Re: [PD] Weird [delread~] behavior under -nogui

2010-03-29 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
hi On 2010-03-27 17:11, Derek Holzer wrote: Hey Flo, IOhannes accused me of making this up when I posted it a week or so ago ;-) Thanks for posting a documented example. Yes it does seem like voodoo doesn't it? i haven't tried the patch yet, but indeed there seems to be a problem,

Re: [PD] Pd Shirts

2010-03-29 Thread Roberto Duarte
I think in general, Black is cool, and for the logo, Cyan ink instead of White is even cooler, and thats easy, a direct ink, no mixing (if you are using silkscreen) Cyan ink looks great also on Dark Blue (or Navy Blue). let me know if this works Roberto I think a black one would be

Re: [PD] Pd Shirts

2010-03-29 Thread palmieri, ricardo
preview? palm 2010/3/27 Roberto Duarte roberto.dua...@gmail.com I think in general, Black is cool, and for the logo, Cyan ink instead of White is even cooler, and thats easy, a direct ink, no mixing (if you are using silkscreen) Cyan ink looks great also on Dark Blue (or Navy Blue). let

Re: [PD] Max Smoother Audio than Pd?

2010-03-29 Thread Lorenzo
Well I must give a +1 to all the members of this list for being so civil, constructive, polite and friendly. The answers one usually get to that kind of subject are much less friendly. Who wants smooth, curvy, creamy, glossy, mild, silky audio anyway? Happy - rough - Pd to all :) PS: I guess

Re: [PD] loudness~

2010-03-29 Thread Frank Barknecht
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 01:21:37AM -0400, Alexandre Porres wrote: So, I got in touch with Tristan who wrote a [loudness~] object for Max ( http://web.media.mit.edu/~tristan/maxmsp.htm ) and he has other objects, one of which has been ported to Pd already. I aksed here before, it seems we

Re: [PD] Weird [delread~] behavior under -nogui

2010-03-29 Thread Florian Hollerweger
Hi, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: one thing you you try, is to explicitely set the samplerate at startup: try pd -nogui -r 44100 I remember this trick having been suggested also for the no [loadbang]-[;pd dsp 1( under -nogui problem. As there, it does not work for me in the current situation. In

[PD] Pitchshifter : fft-based?

2010-03-29 Thread Pierre Massat
Hi all! I was wondering if it'd possible to make a fft-base pitchshifter. I m not talking about the frequency shifter one can find in the audio examples of Pd, which doesn't eally do the same thing. Would it make any difference compared to the delay-base one, in terms of delay length in

[PD] tabread4~ broken interpolation algorithm - was Re: Max Smoother Audio than Pd?

2010-03-29 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
Hi, Well, if you use [tabread4~] or any of the many other Pd objects that use the same broken interpolation algorithm (copy/paste programming), Broken? What's wrong in the tabread4~ interpolation? (note this is not a sarchastical question implying there's nothing wrong in it, it's a

Re: [PD] tabread4~ broken interpolation algorithm - was Re: Max Smoother Audio than Pd?

2010-03-29 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2010-03-29 at 13:49 +0200, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: Claude wrote: If you use [tabread4] to interpolate graphical parameters for animations, the discontinuities in the derivatives are really obvious. [] But IMHO if you're doing piecewise cubic interpolation, it's a bit

Re: [PD] tabread4~ broken interpolation algorithm - was Re: Max Smoother Audio than Pd?

2010-03-29 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
Roman Haefeli escribió: Check this thread: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2008-06/062878.html I checked it out (not read the _whole_ thread to the end) but, In what way can the current tabread4~ interpolation, which is discontinuous even in its 1st derivative, be superior to

Re: [PD] tabread4~ broken interpolation algorithm - was Re: Max Smoother Audio than Pd?

2010-03-29 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
By the way tabread4c~ is not in Pd Extended, is it? Roman Haefeli escribió: On Mon, 2010-03-29 at 13:49 +0200, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: Claude wrote: If you use [tabread4] to interpolate graphical parameters for animations, the discontinuities in the derivatives are really obvious.

Re: [PD] Birds use stars - diatonic

2010-03-29 Thread Matt Barber
What are some ways of telling each of the synths to round to the nearest note in a diatonic scale? think of all the separation points between what is rounded to one note, and what is rounded to another note. for a standard Do major scale, if all your inputs are between 60 and 72, you can

Re: [PD] Pitchshifter : fft-based?

2010-03-29 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi Pierre I once transformed the I07.phase.vocoder.pd into a real-time pitchshifter. It's included in the pdmtl abstraction library and is named [fx.pitch.shift.pvoc~] Roman On Mon, 2010-03-29 at 13:35 +0200, Pierre Massat wrote: Hi all! I was wondering if it'd possible to make a fft-base

Re: [PD] Max Smoother Audio than Pd?

2010-03-29 Thread martin brinkmann
Roman Haefeli wrote: you can find the major7.pd patch and its depencencies here: http://www.romanhaefeli.net/software/pd/ i could not find major7.pd there, but i have tried the bandlimited_oscilators (sinesum), which sounded quite a lot better/smoother than other methods for making bandlimited

[PD] My first two works in Pd

2010-03-29 Thread Pedro Oliveira
Leute, I've been struggling with Pd for a couple of months and finally I managed to kind of finish two main Projects I took along last Semester in my Masters. Of course there could be a lot of improvement but nevertheless, I'm proud of myself :) The first one is The Sound of Nowhere, a

Re: [PD] Max Smoother Audio than Pd?

2010-03-29 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2010-03-29 at 15:59 +0200, martin brinkmann wrote: Roman Haefeli wrote: you can find the major7.pd patch and its depencencies here: http://www.romanhaefeli.net/software/pd/ i could not find major7.pd there, sorry, here it is: http://www.romanhaefeli.net/software/pd/major7.pd

[PD] Birds use stars - diatonic

2010-03-29 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
You can also take your values mod 12 and use those numbers to read indices in a 12-member table you've populated with a mapping onto your favorite scale. If your values are floats you might round them first. You can also keep track of the whole-number quotient of your value divided by 12 so

Re: [PD] Weird [delread~] behavior under -nogui

2010-03-29 Thread Miller Puckette
I have this problem too... I'm baffled for the moment but want to figure it out and fix it :) Miller On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 10:39:44AM +0100, Florian Hollerweger wrote: Hi, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: one thing you you try, is to explicitely set the samplerate at startup: try pd -nogui -r

Re: [PD] tabread4~ broken interpolation algorithm - was Re: Max Smoother Audio than Pd?

2010-03-29 Thread Miller Puckette
Hi all- I haven't looked at Cyrille's interpolator but... tabread4~ uses true cubic interpolation (which perhaps Cyrille's object also does in some other way). The tabread4~ algorithm is to put a cubic through the 4 points surrounding the input point. However, this cubic curve does not

Re: [PD] tabread4~ broken interpolation algorithm - was Re: Max Smoother Audio than Pd?

2010-03-29 Thread cyrille henry
Matteo Sisti Sette a écrit : By the way tabread4c~ is not in Pd Extended, is it? no. it is there : http://www.chnry.net/ch/?083-Nusmuk-audio c Roman Haefeli escribió: On Mon, 2010-03-29 at 13:49 +0200, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: Claude wrote: If you use [tabread4] to interpolate

Re: [PD] Weird [delread~] behavior under -nogui

2010-03-29 Thread Florian Hollerweger
Hi, Miller Puckette wrote: I have this problem too... I'm baffled for the moment but want to figure it out and fix it :) Great. By the way, I have followed IOhannes' recommendation and posted the issue to the bugtracker (#2978457), including the latest version of the example patch and a

Re: [PD] tabread4~ broken interpolation algorithm - was Re: Max Smoother Audio than Pd?

2010-03-29 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
cyrille henry escribió: Matteo Sisti Sette a écrit : By the way tabread4c~ is not in Pd Extended, is it? no. it is there : http://www.chnry.net/ch/?083-Nusmuk-audio Hi, I downloaded the zip file but Windows tells me he can't open it. Is it something different than a normal .zip file? (it

Re: [PD] tabread4~ broken interpolation algorithm - was Re: Max Smoother Audio than Pd?

2010-03-29 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
Miller Puckette escribió: The tabread4~ algorithm is to put a cubic through the 4 points surrounding the input point. However, this cubic curve does not necessarily match the next curve over in first derivative. Oh I see! I thought it did. I confuded that technique with natural cubic

Re: [PD] tabread4~ broken interpolation algorithm - was Re: Max Smoother Audio than Pd?

2010-03-29 Thread John Harrison
The link works and extracts fine here in WinXP SP3. I used the built-in compressed (zipped) folders tool in the explorer shell. On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com wrote: cyrille henry escribió: Matteo Sisti Sette a écrit : By the way

[PD] tabread4~ broken interpolation algorithm - was Re: Max Smoother Audio than Pd?

2010-03-29 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
I checked it out (not read the _whole_ thread to the end) but, In what way can the current tabread4~ interpolation, which is discontinuous even in its 1st derivative, be superior to true cubic interpolation? Even at transpositions near to zero, I can't see what's the advantage, nor what it

Re: [PD] tabread4~ broken interpolation algorithm - was Re: Max Smoother Audio than Pd?

2010-03-29 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
John Harrison escribió: The link works and extracts fine here in WinXP SP3. I used the built-in compressed (zipped) folders tool in the explorer shell. Crazy. Internet Explorer breaks downloaded files whenever it takes you more than a few seconds to select the folder to download in. I

Re: [PD] tabread4~ broken interpolation algorithm - was Re: Max Smoother Audio than Pd?

2010-03-29 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
Mathieu Bouchard escribió: both are truly cubic interpolations. IIRC, one kind of cubic interpolation is designed to go through all four points, and the other kind is designed to be pieced with other cubic interpolations, and Miller confused the two and left the bug there. According to his

Re: [PD] Pitchshifter : fft-based?

2010-03-29 Thread hard off
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[PD] PIEZO ARDUINO

2010-03-29 Thread Jose Luis Santorcuato
Dear list i make a project using pduino and electric piezo (analog in) all works fine, but the piezo trigger sometines repeat bangs, how i can select one bang and block the other? i stay using a edge object, but the problem persist. Best regards José -- http://www.chilemigra.cl

Re: [PD] PIEZO ARDUINO

2010-03-29 Thread cyrille henry
debounce from mapping. c Jose Luis Santorcuato a écrit : Dear list i make a project using pduino and electric piezo (analog in) all works fine, but the piezo trigger sometines repeat bangs, how i can select one bang and block the other? i stay using a edge object, but the problem persist.

Re: [PD] PIEZO ARDUINO

2010-03-29 Thread Jose Luis Santorcuato
Hi Cyrille, well... i dont understand what you say, debounce from mapping i send the program. Please check it, thanks a lot. José 2010/3/29 cyrille henry c...@chnry.net debounce from mapping. c Jose Luis Santorcuato a écrit : Dear list i make a project using pduino and electric piezo

Re: [PD] PIEZO ARDUINO

2010-03-29 Thread cyrille henry
sorry. use the debounce object, from the mapping library. it should do what you want. c Jose Luis Santorcuato a écrit : Hi Cyrille, well... i dont understand what you say, debounce from mapping i send the program. Please check it, thanks a lot. José 2010/3/29 cyrille henry c...@chnry.net

Re: [PD] PIEZO ARDUINO

2010-03-29 Thread Jose Luis Santorcuato
Thanks Cyrille works fine... thanks a lot José 2010/3/29 cyrille henry c...@chnry.net sorry. use the debounce object, from the mapping library. it should do what you want. c Jose Luis Santorcuato a écrit : Hi Cyrille, well... i dont understand what you say, debounce from

Re: [PD] My first two works in Pd

2010-03-29 Thread Andrew Faraday
I'm quite impressed with these. PD is quite good for chasing up ideas and using software as an instrument. Like it. Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 16:03:34 +0200 From: he...@partidoalto.net To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: [PD] My first two works in Pd Leute, I've been struggling with Pd for a couple

Re: [PD] tabread4~ broken interpolation algorithm - was Re: Max Smoother Audio than Pd?

2010-03-29 Thread Matt Barber
I checked it out (not read the _whole_ thread to the end) but, In what way can the current tabread4~ interpolation, which is discontinuous even in its 1st derivative, be superior to true cubic interpolation? Even at transpositions near to zero, I can't see what's the advantage, nor what it

Re: [PD] Birds use stars - diatonic

2010-03-29 Thread Matt Barber
Yes, this is all true. What I like about a tabread is the possibility for quickly applying many different kinds of mappings, diatonic or otherwise -- if you assume a chromatic input (rather than a fully microtonal input -- ints instead of floats) this becomes quite a bit easier. MB On Mon, Mar

Re: [PD] tabread4~ broken interpolation algorithm - was Re: Max Smoother Audio than Pd?

2010-03-29 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi Matt Thanks for the detailed explanation. I still have troubles getting the idea of the Lagrange interpolator in the context of [tabread4~]. You say, that it finds the cubic polynomial which hits all four points. But what is the advantage of that? As I understand [tabread4~], if the index is

[PD] Audiomulch equivalent

2010-03-29 Thread Jerome Covington
Has anybody had success building the equivalent of Audiomulch? I'm specifically interested in the looping gadget and being able to time stretch multiple loops (with pitch shifting). -- Regards, Jerome Covington . . . . : . . . . : define audio development

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] OS X 10.6: unplugging headphones crashes Pd

2010-03-29 Thread Nils Sundtrom
I had garageband crash when I unplugged the headphones yesterday, I wonder if there update today fixed the issue. Nils On 10-03-27 11:00 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Yeah, I've seen some Leopard issues with audio too. I blame Apple ;). I think the issue is in portaudio, so hopefully

Re: [PD] tabread4~ broken interpolation algorithm - was Re: Max Smoother Audio than Pd?

2010-03-29 Thread Matt Barber
LONG, sorry. On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 7:03 PM, Roman Haefeli reduzie...@yahoo.de wrote: Hi Matt Thanks for the detailed explanation.  I still have troubles getting the idea of the Lagrange interpolator in the context of [tabread4~]. You say, that it finds the cubic polynomial which hits all

[PD] Loop object

2010-03-29 Thread Jerome Covington
Looking at the [loop~] help example but am unable to create any noise. When I click on array 2 in play mode the following is logged in the console. error: conflicting block~ objects in same page play~'s error: no such array '0-table' play~'s error: no such array '1-table' play~'s error: no such

[PD] And finally... netbook recommendation

2010-03-29 Thread Jerome Covington
Are there any recommendations on netbook/audio interface combinations for further development and performance using pd? I am at the moment OS agnostic. -- Regards, Jerome Covington . . . . : . . . . : define audio development ___

[PD] compiling Pd-extended on Ubuntu Netbook Remix 9.10

2010-03-29 Thread Ichabod
I couldn't find any Pd-extended builds for Ubuntu Netbook Remix 9.10 (is there one anywhere?), and the autobuild for Ubuntu Karmic i386 didn't work, so I tried compiling from source. I extracted the source and then cd'ed to the ~/Pd-0.41.4-extended/pd/src folder and ran autoconf and then