Re: [PD] C++ for reusable dsp lib - or better use C?

2012-02-27 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
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On 2012-02-26 19:50, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
 Le 2012-02-22 à 08:42:00, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit :
 On 2012-02-22 06:46, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
 So, are you switching GEM away from MSVC, or are you going to make a C
 API so that GEM can actually collaborate with other Pd-based frameworks
 that want to read its data on Windows ?
 well, yes; i'd like to
 
 Well, let's say that this interface is only for supporting pixes in
 other frameworks without having to go through [pix_data] and [pix_set].
 What would you put in it ?

 Some kind of permanent interface for getting/setting xsize, ysize,
 csize, upsidedown, type and format ; something to see whether there's a
 pix at all, something for creating one, and some explanation of how
 newimage/newfilm is supposed to work...

yesbasically a C-wrapper to access imageStruct members and methods
via an opaque (imageStruct*) pointer.
and a wrapper to extract that from an opaque GemState* pointer.



 
 And a try/catch in every wrapper to protect against exception problems
 between MSVC and GCC.


 
 Or else just discontinuing the MSVC edition... 

no.

 which thing do you mean
 when you say that you would « like to » ?


i'd like to have both MinGW and MSVC

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Re: [PD] pd mentioned in squarepusher interview

2012-02-27 Thread Pierre Massat
:D



2012/2/27 i go bananas hard@gmail.com

 ha ha, that's not a bad guess though.




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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Japanese Pure Data book is out now.

2012-02-27 Thread Seiichiro MATSUMURA
Hi Frank,

Thank you for the information.
I didn't notice it.
It's nice to tell the essence of this book.

Best,

Sei



2012年2月24日18:25 Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org:
 Hi,

 wonderful! I really like the cover, too.

 I just found that BNN International also has an Englisch announcement here:
 http://bnn-international.blogspot.com/2012/02/this-is-basic-how-to-book-about-pure.html

 All the best,
 --
 Frank

 On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 05:38:00PM +0900, Seiichiro MATSUMURA wrote:
 Dear list,

 The world first Japanese Pure Data book for sound programming will be
 published from BNN(Bug News Network) Inc. on 23rd Feb. 2012 in Japan.
 The title is Pd Recipe Book -Sound Programming with Pure Data. This
 book is written for the programming newbies with the step by step type
 tutorials.
 If you know anybody who can read Japanese and hope to jump into the Pd
 world, please recommend this book.

 Web site (Japanese)
 Pd Recipe Book -Sound Programming with Pure Data
 http://www.bnn.co.jp/books/title_index/web/pd_recipe_book_pure_data.html#more

 I hope this become the starting point to spread Pd in Japan.

 best wishes,

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pdlua and tclpd: now embedded in Pd-extended 0.43

2012-02-27 Thread João Pais
I'm thinking about using lua to build an interpreter for my Click Tracker  
(http://code.google.com/p/clicktracker/), so it's great that this is  
working. Can you recomend any good lua tutorial? That would be a good  
resource to have in the documentation, I guess (same goes for a tcl  
tutorial).



There are two new, easy ways to write objects for Pd: tclpd by Federico  
Ferri and pdlua by Claude Heiland-Allen, Frank Barknecht and Martin  
Peach.  Both are now included in Pd-extended 0.43 and are automatically  
loaded at startup.  That means you can write a script in Lua or Tcl and  
have that script be a true object in Pd.  Both pdlua and tclpd provide  
the large majority of the Pd externals API, and you can even write GUI  
objects using tclpd.


Tcl and Lua both excel at handling strings, one thing that Pd is not the  
best at, so if you have a project that needs to parse or manage a lot of  
strings, then you have a new approach.


There are some other ways of using other languages to write objects for  
Pd: pyext for Python and pdj for Java.  These two are different in a key  
way than pdlua and tclpd.  pyext and pdj allow you to load scripts into  
an object called [pyext] or [pdj].   tclpd and pdlua let you create full  
Pd objects that are completely transparent to the user.  You create an  
object written in tclpd or pdlua just like any other Pd object, and  
those objects can have their own help patch too.


Both pdlua and tclpd come with a lot of examples, go to the Help Browser  
and find them in the list of libraries there.  I also started writing  
the 'tclfile' library to bring the Tcl file API to Pd:


http://puredata.info/downloads/tclfile

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Re: [PD] pd mentioned in squarepusher interview

2012-02-27 Thread Dominic Pflaum
Nice interview, thanks for bringing it to my attention!

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com wrote:

 :D



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[PD] Toonloop/Stop Motion in Pure Data

2012-02-27 Thread Antonio Roberts
Has anyone attempted to make something like Toonloop
(http://toonloop.com/) in Pure Data? It's basically a live stop motion
tool.

Antonio

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pdlua and tclpd: now embedded in Pd-extended 0.43

2012-02-27 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sun, 2012-02-26 at 20:15 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 There are two new, easy ways to write objects for Pd: tclpd by Federico Ferri 
 and pdlua by Claude Heiland-Allen, Frank Barknecht and Martin Peach.  Both 
 are now included in Pd-extended 0.43 and are automatically loaded at startup. 
  That means you can write a script in Lua or Tcl and have that script be a 
 true object in Pd.  Both pdlua and tclpd provide the large majority of the Pd 
 externals API, and you can even write GUI objects using tclpd.

That's nice! Many thanks to everyone involved.

Roman



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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pdlua and tclpd: now embedded in Pd-extended 0.43

2012-02-27 Thread Frank Barknecht
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:54:23PM +0100, João Pais wrote:
 I'm thinking about using lua to build an interpreter for my Click Tracker 
 (http://code.google.com/p/clicktracker/), so it's great that this is  
 working. Can you recomend any good lua tutorial? 

Take the blue PIL! http://www.lua.org/pil/

For starters the online 1st edition is fine, but I still recommend to buy the
second edition: The PIL is one of the best books on programming in general in
my opinion, and you will probably learn a lot that you can use in other
languages as well.

Ciao
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[PD] GEM + Boids

2012-02-27 Thread Oussama Mubarak

Hi,

I'm new to PD and trying to use boids 
(http://puredata.info/community/projects/software/boids) with GEM 
(http://puredata.info/community/projects/software/gem).


The example boids2d-help.pd (attached) that comes with boids is almost 
what I need, but it renders each boids result in a separate pd subpatch; 
in pd gem_example a route object is used to route each result of boids 
to a separate subpatch pd boid which takes care of the gem rendering.


Is there a way to send the results of boids to one subpatch that would 
take care of all the rendering no matter how many boids results there 
are ? This would allow me to fluctuate the number of boids without 
having to create and attach new subpatches.


Any help is highly appreciated.

Best,

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#N canvas 0 22 975 712 10;
#X obj 604 10 import jasch_lib;
#X msg -99 601 dump;
#X msg 266 113 neighbors \$1;
#X floatatom 266 98 5 0 4 0 - neighbors -;
#X floatatom 266 133 5 0 0 0 - maxspeed -;
#X msg 266 148 maxspeed \$1;
#X floatatom 266 168 5 0 0 0 - minspeed -;
#X msg 266 183 minspeed \$1;
#X floatatom 266 203 5 0 0 0 - center -;
#X msg 266 218 center \$1;
#X floatatom 266 238 5 0 0 0 - attract -;
#X msg 266 253 attract \$1;
#X floatatom 266 273 5 0 0 0 - match -;
#X msg 266 288 match \$1;
#X floatatom 266 308 5 0 0 0 - avoid -;
#X msg 266 323 avoid \$1;
#X obj -125 411 r boidParam;
#X floatatom 266 343 5 0 0 0 - repel -;
#X msg 266 358 repel \$1;
#X floatatom 266 378 5 0 0 0 - edgedist -;
#X msg 266 393 edgedist \$1;
#X floatatom 266 413 5 0 0 0 - speed -;
#X msg 266 428 speed \$1;
#X floatatom 266 448 5 0 0 0 - inertia -;
#X msg 266 463 inertia \$1;
#X floatatom 266 483 5 0 0 0 - accel -;
#X msg 266 498 accel \$1;
#X floatatom 266 518 5 0 0 0 - prefdist -;
#X msg 266 533 prefdist \$1;
#X msg -99 620 reset;
#X text 357 148 maximum speed of speed range;
#X text 359 182 minimum speed of speed range;
#X text 356 217 strength of centering instinct;
#X text 358 428 overall speed;
#X text 359 499 speed of acceleration;
#X text 359 530 preferred distance from neighbors;
#X floatatom 267 556 5 0 0 0 - flyrect[0] -;
#X floatatom 306 556 5 0 0 0 - flyrect[1] -;
#X floatatom 345 556 5 0 0 0 - flyrect[2] -;
#X floatatom 384 556 5 0 0 0 - - -;
#X floatatom 266 615 5 0 0 0 - - -;
#X floatatom 306 615 5 0 0 0 - - -;
#X floatatom 266 63 5 0 0 0 - - -;
#X msg 266 78 number \$1;
#X text 357 76 number of boids;
#X floatatom -99 567 5 0 0 0 - - -;
#X msg -99 582 mode \$1;
#X text -35 582 output mode;
#X obj 266 676 s boidParam;
#X obj -99 641 s boidParam;
#X text -35 601 parameter dump;
#X text -36 621 reset boids randomly inside flyrect;
#X text 357 111 number of neighbors each boid consults when flocking
;
#X text 356 288 strength of neighbor speed matching instinct;
#X text 356 323 strength of neighbor avoidance instinct;
#X text 356 355 strength of wall avoidance instinct;
#X text 358 391 distance of vision for avoiding wall edges;
#X text 359 462 willingness to change speed and direction;
#X text 355 251 strength of attraction to 'attractpt';
#X text -191 84 (c) 1995-98 Eric L. Singer (e...@ericsinger.com);
#X text -191 126 Based on Simon Fraser's implementation of Craig Reynolds'
Boids algorithm. Boids is free for non-commercial use;
#X text -191 159 Boids is a bird flight and animal flock simulator.
It is based on the same algorithm which was used in Jurassic Park for
the herding dinosaurs.;
#X text -191 208 Boids takes an integer argument which is the number
of boids. Each time Boids receives a bang \, it calculates and outputs
the new positions of the boids. The output consists of thew coordiantes
for each boid \, the number and type depending on the mode.;
#X text -190 282 The flight parameters can be changed with messages.
Use the 'dump' message to output a list of the current parameter settings.
;
#X text -190 328 For more information about the Boids algorithm \,
see Craig Reynolds' Web site at 
http://reality.sgi.com/employees/craig/boids.html;.
;
#X text -188 64 arguments: float number of boids \, float output
mode;
#X obj -72 460 print dump;
#X obj -203 9 cnv 15 800 48 empty empty boids2d 20 12 2 24 -228915
-66577 0;
#X obj -151 410 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144
-1 -1;
#N canvas 430 22 471 383 gem_example 0;
#X msg 33 31 destroy;
#N canvas 494 140 629 324 gemwin 0;
#X obj 219 190 gemwin;
#X obj 66 194 outlet;
#X obj 67 10 inlet;
#X obj 67 41 route create;
#X msg 67 70 set destroy;
#X msg 157 70 set create;
#X msg 350 115 destroy \, reset;
#X msg 238 71 color 0 0 0.5;
#X msg 212 146 create \, 1 \, frame 30 \, color 1 1 1;
#X connect 2 0 3 0;
#X connect 3 0 4 0;
#X connect 3 0 8 0;
#X connect 3 1 5 0;
#X connect 3 1 6 0;
#X connect 4 0 1 0;
#X connect 5 0 1 0;
#X connect 6 0 0 0;
#X connect 7 0 0 0;
#X connect 8 0 0 0;
#X restore 33 51 pd gemwin;
#X obj 33 91 tgl 15 0 empty empty start_flocking_animation 20 6 1 10
-262144 -1 -1 1 1;
#X obj 204 135 r boidParam;
#X obj 33 112 metro 33;
#X floatatom 33 

Re: [PD] GEM + Boids

2012-02-27 Thread Cyrille Henry

hello,

yes, ity's easy.
see attachment.
you can have more information about technique use in this patch in Gem 
documentation, mainly at the end of directory 02.advanced

cheers
Cyrille


Le 27/02/2012 14:09, Oussama Mubarak a écrit :

Hi,

I'm new to PD and trying to use boids 
(http://puredata.info/community/projects/software/boids) with GEM 
(http://puredata.info/community/projects/software/gem).

The example boids2d-help.pd (attached) that comes with boids is almost what I need, but it 
renders each boids result in a separate pd subpatch; in pd gem_example a route object is used to 
route each result of boids to a separate subpatch pd boid which takes care of the gem rendering.

Is there a way to send the results of boids to one subpatch that would take 
care of all the rendering no matter how many boids results there are ? This 
would allow me to fluctuate the number of boids without having to create and 
attach new subpatches.

Any help is highly appreciated.

Best,



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Re: [PD] MIDI input problems in PD

2012-02-27 Thread Villa Anna
Sounds very similar to my problem. I also think it's a buffer problem cause
when I leave everything on overnight (unused), it still works perfectly
fine in the morning. The problems occur after usage.
I'll check out the tip from Raphael.

Thanks!

Laura

2012/2/26 Ingo i...@miamiwave.com

 I had the same problem with Windows XP and a RME Hammerfall DSP card using
 only the normal [notein], [ctlin], [toutchin] and [pgmin] for a sampling
 synth. I don't think it's the midi interface. RME has some of the best
 drivers - very stable.

 Sometimes after a certain amount of time it started playing notes by itself
 and didn't seem to stop anymore. It sounded like notes or melodies that I
 had been playing before. Nothing random.

 Could it be possible that midi data is written into a buffer that does not
 get emptied anymore? Then something might trigger reading out that buffer?

 I couldn't recreate why it happened. Most of the time it didn't do it but
 every once in a while it did.

 I had no problem ever running Nuendo for days on that same machine
 programming midi. The same Pd patch was doing fine on a Linux computer
 after
 switching to Linux.

 Ingo



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  Miller Puckette
  Gesendet: Sonntag, 26. Februar 2012 00:04
  An: Villa Anna
  Cc: pd-list
  Betreff: Re: [PD] MIDI input problems in PD
 
  I haven't seen this problem, but I have to admit I don't think I ever
  ran MIDI into a Windows machine for more than 2 hours at a time (back
  when I acually used MIDI Windows itself wasn't stable enough to run for
  that long at a time :)
 
  It's hard to know whether this is the MOTU driver misbehaving in windows
 7
  or somethig with Pd itself - my only suggestion would be to try either
  (1) switching interfaces to something more modern than 828MKII or (2)
  try using some other software to see if the problem is specific to PD.
 
  cheers
  Miller
 
  On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 11:03:32AM +0100, Villa Anna wrote:
   Dear list,
  
   I have problems with Midi input in PD.
   I use Windows 7 and make use of a Motu 828MKII soundcard.
   I receive MIDI via a polytouchin object (make use of FSRs and a
 coridium
   armmite to translate pressure on the FSRs to Midi messages).
   All goes fine in the beginning, but sometimes after a while (f.e. 2
  hours)
   my Midi input starts to be random (FSRs trigger that are not supposed
 to
  be
   triggering). If I restart PD everything is back to normal. Any idea
 what
   the cause of this problem might be?
   It's an installation project so it is difficult to restart everything
  from
   time to time.
  
   Thanks in advance for your help!
  
   Laura
 
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Re: [PD] pix_openni crash Pd

2012-02-27 Thread Jack

Le 26/02/2012 19:13, Jack a écrit :

Le 25/02/2012 17:13, Matthias Kronlachner a écrit :

Am 25.02.12 16:08, schrieb Jack:

Le 25/02/2012 14:39, Matthias Kronlachner a écrit :

Am 24.02.12 20:15, schrieb Jack:

Le 24/02/2012 18:41, Mathieu Bouchard a écrit :

Le 2012-02-24 à 18:10:00, Jack a écrit :


Here the output with valgrind when i create the gemwin :


Are there any « Invalid write » messages before getting there ?

Also note that GEM 93 and GEM 92 are quite binary-incompatible, 
therefore an external has to be compiled with the right set of .h 
files.


There were also at least two more intermediate steps for those 
who used SVN versions of GEM 93. For example, GridFlow supports 
GEM 92 and two early kinds of GEM 93 but doesn't work with the 
final GEM 93.


I'm talking about this because :


Address 0x735ef68 is 0 bytes after a block of size 32 alloc'd
at 0x4025315: calloc (vg_replace_malloc.c:467)
by 0x80B8710: getbytes (in /usr/bin/pd)


Looks like an object has an unexpected size, which hints at 
possible mismatching struct{} definitions.


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Montréal, QC



Here the output of valgrind before i create the gemwin, it seems 
there is no trace of 'invalid write' :


==2417== HEAP SUMMARY:
==2417== in use at exit: 10,269,451 bytes in 14,507 blocks
==2417== total heap usage: 44,542 allocs, 30,035 frees, 46,723,012 
bytes allocated

==2417==
==2417== LEAK SUMMARY:
==2417== definitely lost: 14,663 bytes in 50 blocks
==2417== indirectly lost: 8,291 bytes in 488 blocks
==2417== possibly lost: 1,525 bytes in 56 blocks
==2417== still reachable: 10,244,972 bytes in 13,913 blocks
==2417== suppressed: 0 bytes in 0 blocks
==2417== Rerun with --leak-check=full to see details of leaked memory
==2417==
==2417== For counts of detected and suppressed errors, rerun with: -v
==2417== ERROR SUMMARY: 0 errors from 0 contexts (suppressed: 482 
from 11)

==2418==
==2418== HEAP SUMMARY:
==2418== in use at exit: 10,269,451 bytes in 14,507 blocks
==2418== total heap usage: 44,542 allocs, 30,035 frees, 46,723,012 
bytes allocated

==2418==
==2418== LEAK SUMMARY:
==2418== definitely lost: 14,663 bytes in 50 blocks
==2418== indirectly lost: 8,291 bytes in 488 blocks
==2418== possibly lost: 1,525 bytes in 56 blocks
==2418== still reachable: 10,244,972 bytes in 13,913 blocks
==2418== suppressed: 0 bytes in 0 blocks
==2418== Rerun with --leak-check=full to see details of leaked memory
==2418==
==2418== For counts of detected and suppressed errors, rerun with: -v
==2418== ERROR SUMMARY: 0 errors from 0 contexts (suppressed: 482 
from 11)

==2419==
==2419== HEAP SUMMARY:
==2419== in use at exit: 10,269,451 bytes in 14,507 blocks
==2419== total heap usage: 44,542 allocs, 30,035 frees, 46,723,012 
bytes allocated

==2419==
==2419== LEAK SUMMARY:
==2419== definitely lost: 14,663 bytes in 50 blocks
==2419== indirectly lost: 8,291 bytes in 488 blocks
==2419== possibly lost: 1,525 bytes in 56 blocks
==2419== still reachable: 10,244,972 bytes in 13,913 blocks
==2419== suppressed: 0 bytes in 0 blocks
==2419== Rerun with --leak-check=full to see details of leaked memory
==2419==
==2419== For counts of detected and suppressed errors, rerun with: -v
==2419== ERROR SUMMARY: 0 errors from 0 contexts (suppressed: 482 
from 11)

==2420==
==2420== HEAP SUMMARY:
==2420== in use at exit: 10,269,451 bytes in 14,507 blocks
==2420== total heap usage: 44,542 allocs, 30,035 frees, 46,723,012 
bytes allocated

==2420==
==2420== LEAK SUMMARY:
==2420== definitely lost: 14,663 bytes in 50 blocks
==2420== indirectly lost: 8,291 bytes in 488 blocks
==2420== possibly lost: 1,525 bytes in 56 blocks
==2420== still reachable: 10,244,972 bytes in 13,913 blocks
==2420== suppressed: 0 bytes in 0 blocks
==2420== Rerun with --leak-check=full to see details of leaked memory
==2420==
==2420== For counts of detected and suppressed errors, rerun with: -v
==2420== ERROR SUMMARY: 0 errors from 0 contexts (suppressed: 482 
from 11)


Thanx for your help.
++

Jack

hi!

did you try the examples included in openni and nite? are they 
working? (eg. Sample-NiSimpleViewer, Sample-SceneAnalysis)
if you just create the gemwin without starting rendering is it 
still crashing?


matthias




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Hello Matthias,

I don't have a kinect today. I will try later.
Creating the gemwin without the rendering doesn't crash Pd. (It was 
a mistake to said that in my first email).

Thanx for your help.

ah ok, you tried it without kinect?

i just found a bug if there is no kinect available and you want to 
use handtracking it crashed.
but i fixed that. so at least in osx there is no problem now to use 
pix_openni without a kinect connected.

but anyway it doesn't make a lot of sense ;-)

matthias


++

Jack





Re: [PD] GEM + Boids

2012-02-27 Thread Cyrille Henry

look like the attachment was missing for the list.
c


Le 27/02/2012 15:14, Cyrille Henry a écrit :

hello,

yes, ity's easy.
see attachment.
you can have more information about technique use in this patch in Gem 
documentation, mainly at the end of directory 02.advanced

cheers
Cyrille


Le 27/02/2012 14:09, Oussama Mubarak a écrit :

Hi,

I'm new to PD and trying to use boids 
(http://puredata.info/community/projects/software/boids) with GEM 
(http://puredata.info/community/projects/software/gem).

The example boids2d-help.pd (attached) that comes with boids is almost what I need, but it 
renders each boids result in a separate pd subpatch; in pd gem_example a route object is used to 
route each result of boids to a separate subpatch pd boid which takes care of the gem rendering.

Is there a way to send the results of boids to one subpatch that would take 
care of all the rendering no matter how many boids results there are ? This 
would allow me to fluctuate the number of boids without having to create and 
attach new subpatches.

Any help is highly appreciated.

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Re: [PD] GEM + Boids

2012-02-27 Thread Oussama Mubarak

Thank you Cyrille.
That's exactly what I was looking for.

Oussama Mubarak
http://semiaddict.com


Le 27/02/2012 15:14, Cyrille Henry a écrit :

and here is the attachement


Le 27/02/2012 15:14, Cyrille Henry a écrit :

hello,

yes, ity's easy.
see attachment.
you can have more information about technique use in this patch in 
Gem documentation, mainly at the end of directory 02.advanced


cheers
Cyrille


Le 27/02/2012 14:09, Oussama Mubarak a écrit :

Hi,

I'm new to PD and trying to use boids 
(http://puredata.info/community/projects/software/boids) with GEM 
(http://puredata.info/community/projects/software/gem).


The example boids2d-help.pd (attached) that comes with boids is 
almost what I need, but it renders each boids result in a separate 
pd subpatch; in pd gem_example a route object is used to route 
each result of boids to a separate subpatch pd boid which takes 
care of the gem rendering.


Is there a way to send the results of boids to one subpatch that 
would take care of all the rendering no matter how many boids 
results there are ? This would allow me to fluctuate the number of 
boids without having to create and attach new subpatches.


Any help is highly appreciated.

Best,



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Re: [PD] pix_openni crash Pd

2012-02-27 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
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and do a complete rebuild of Gem.

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Re: [PD] Mac OS X/PowerPC builds needed

2012-02-27 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

I'm sure people who have PPC equipment still use it ;-)  As for 10.7, the 
builds on 10.5 and 10.6 should work fine on 10.7, so there isn't much of a need 
for a 10.7 build server.  Mark Grimm has been working out the build kinks on 
10.7, I'm sure he'd like some company in that misery.

As for me, 10.6 will be the last version of Mac OS X I use.  I don't like iOS 
especially for my laptop, and Apple seems to be planning the end of Mac OS X, 
and is replacing it chunk by chunk with iOS.  I've been using NeXTSTEP since 
1994, and Mac OS X is really just the continuation of NeXTSTEP.  More and more, 
the continuation of the ideas that make NeXTSTEP so great are happening outside 
of Apple, with projects like Étoilé http://etoileos.com/ and GNUstep.  

One idea in Étoilé that blew me away with its awesomeness and inevitability was 
the idea of the OS providing the core frameworks for all document types, and 
that core framework keeps all revisions of the document permanently.  Its time 
for File-Save to go away, disk space is cheap, the every app should save 
documents with the entire history of how they were created.

Apple, on the other hand, seems to be focused on people who want to have their 
nice big corporation do their thinking for them.  So they are working hard to 
lock their users out of their own systems, forcing all applications to go 
through their review process, and other such things.  NeXTSTEP always focused 
on making the power of the computer as available and easy to use as possible.  
Apple still do a lot of things much better than anyone else, but that is just 
too high a cost to pay.

.hc

On Feb 26, 2012, at 9:56 PM, Rich E wrote:

 Does anyone use Power PC for audio work anymore?  Also, is there a 10.7 
 machine? The latter seems more in demand.
 
 cheers,
 Rich
 
 On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at 
 wrote:
 
 So the Mac OS X PowerPC machine from the build farm has died.  The hard drive 
 is intact, so all the data is there.  I also have much more limited time for 
 maintaining the PdLab machines.  So I'm looking for someone to host the Mac 
 OS X PowerPC builds.  It can be really any recent PowerPC Mac.  The old 
 machine was a 300MHz G4.
 
 Can anyone take this on?  I'd hate to see Mac OS X/PowerPC dropped from the 
 supported platforms since they are still quite capable machines.
 
 .hc
 
 
 
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Re: [PD] choosing your language at launch WAS: Japanese Pure Data book is out now.

2012-02-27 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

I haven't included the latest yet.  If you are on GNU/Linux or Mac OS X with 
Fink or Macports, its easy to generate your own ja.msg file for Pd-extended to 
use.  Let me know and I can walk you throw the process.

.hc

On Feb 27, 2012, at 7:02 AM, Seiichiro Matsumura wrote:

 Hi Hans,
 
 Thank you for the quick update. I would like to check it but I can't
 approach to pd-extended git because I am not a geek user even writing
 Pd book.
 It seems the latest translation is not yet reflected on
 Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120226. Is there any other ways I could check it?
 Sorry for bothering you.
 I also asked Chikashi to check the translation before release. Double
 check must be necessary.
 
 Best,
 
 Sei Matsumura
 
 2012年2月25日6:56 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at:
 
 I was updating pd-extended.git, so I threw in the new Japanese
 translation :-).  I'll be sure to update it one last time before the
 final release, so you can test it in a real build.
 
 I'm all for choice with the language of the app, but it seems to me that
 is something that the OS should handle.  So anyone who set their system
 language to English will get Pd-extended in English.  For those who want
 some mix of languages, then there is no standard technique that I know
 of, and how you do it varies on each OS.  If someone wants to code this
 for Pd-extended, patches are welcome.
 
 For the geeks, you can select the language easily when launching Pd from
 the terminal.  This is what I do for testing the language support:
 
 $ export LANG=en
 $ /usr/bin/pd-extended
 
 or on Mac OS X:
 
 $ /Applications/Pd-extended/Contents/Resources/bin/pd
 
 You can see the supported languages in the po/ folder inside Pd.
 
 .hc
 
 On 02/23/2012 11:54 PM, Seiichiro MATSUMURA wrote:
 Thanks.
 I finished Transifex work in Japanese 100%. Then I was surprised my
 partly inputs of Transifex in middle of Feb. is already reflected in
 0.43.1-beta 20120223.
 
 However, it seems working automatic depends on system language of OSX, now.
 I think it would be nice if users can select language mode in
 Preferences, for example like Audacity's language setting. Because
 many Japanese users (especially geeks) already get used to the general
 English menu and interfaces.
 Of course, Japanese interfaces is truly helpful for Japanese Pd newbies.
 So languages selectable is the ideal.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Sei Matsumura
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 2012/2/22 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at:
 That's great! I wish I could read it.  I love the idea of including the 
 interviews and the PdCon report, it shows the multidimensionality of Pd.  
 Its not just software, but the community behind it as well.
 
 To match this release, I think it would be nice to also have a complete 
 Japanese translation of the Pd interface. To contribute, create an account 
 on transifex and edit the Japanese translation in this webform:
 https://www.transifex.net/projects/p/puredata/resource/templatepot/
 
 .hc
 
 On Feb 20, 2012, at 3:38 AM, Seiichiro MATSUMURA wrote:
 
 Dear list,
 
 The world first Japanese Pure Data book for sound programming will be
 published from BNN(Bug News Network) Inc. on 23rd Feb. 2012 in Japan.
 The title is Pd Recipe Book -Sound Programming with Pure Data. This
 book is written for the programming newbies with the step by step type
 tutorials.
 If you know anybody who can read Japanese and hope to jump into the Pd
 world, please recommend this book.
 
 Web site (Japanese)
 Pd Recipe Book -Sound Programming with Pure Data
 http://www.bnn.co.jp/books/title_index/web/pd_recipe_book_pure_data.html#more
 
 I hope this become the starting point to spread Pd in Japan.
 
 best wishes,
 
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Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX

2012-02-27 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sun, 2012-02-26 at 11:50 -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
 Le 2012-02-26 à 11:50:00, Roman Haefeli a écrit :
  On Fri, 2012-02-24 at 15:16 -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
  Le 2012-02-24 à 20:57:00, Roman Haefeli a écrit :
  In what way [import] shouldn't be used inside abstractions?
  [import] is not very local, is it ?
  But it also works with multi-class externals. See my other mail.
 
 But it's not very local, is it ?

I got it (why are you repeating it?) [zexy/dirac~] just simply doesn't
work on a Debian box that has puredata and pd-zexy installed.

 Where does it import symbols to ? A big global namespace.

It seems that [zexy/dirac~] adds 'dirac~' to the global namespace, not
'zexy/dirac~'. At least, when I create [zexy/dirac~] in a patch in
Pd-extended, I can create instances of [dirac~] afterwards.

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Re: [PD] Mac OS X/PowerPC builds needed

2012-02-27 Thread m.e.grimm
  the build
 kinks on 10.7, I'm sure he'd like some company in that misery.

in fink, out of hans's pd-extended-dev script, on 10.7, the only thing
not building is:

gmerlin

here is the error from the termilal:

http://pastebin.com/w6L9LMPm

if anyone wants to help?

a 10.7 build system would be nice yes.

 builds on 10.5 and 10.6 should work fine on 10.7, so there isn't much of a
 need for a 10.7 build server.

might ease 64 bit builds on osx? since at least for my fink install
all the libs are compiled 64 bit...


 iOS especially for my laptop, and Apple seems to be planning the end of Mac
 OS X, and is replacing it chunk by chunk with iOS.

what they did with my beloved FCP (X?) really sucked... whats left?
premiere? kdenlive? they are looking to imovie-atize everything. dont
make. consume.

m




On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:

 I'm sure people who have PPC equipment still use it ;-)  As for 10.7, the
 builds on 10.5 and 10.6 should work fine on 10.7, so there isn't much of a
 need for a 10.7 build server.  Mark Grimm has been working out the build
 kinks on 10.7, I'm sure he'd like some company in that misery.

 As for me, 10.6 will be the last version of Mac OS X I use.  I don't like
 iOS especially for my laptop, and Apple seems to be planning the end of Mac
 OS X, and is replacing it chunk by chunk with iOS.  I've been using NeXTSTEP
 since 1994, and Mac OS X is really just the continuation of NeXTSTEP.  More
 and more, the continuation of the ideas that make NeXTSTEP so great are
 happening outside of Apple, with projects like Étoilé http://etoileos.com/
 and GNUstep.

 One idea in Étoilé that blew me away with its awesomeness and inevitability
 was the idea of the OS providing the core frameworks for all document types,
 and that core framework keeps all revisions of the document permanently.
  Its time for File-Save to go away, disk space is cheap, the every app
 should save documents with the entire history of how they were created.

 Apple, on the other hand, seems to be focused on people who want to have
 their nice big corporation do their thinking for them.  So they are working
 hard to lock their users out of their own systems, forcing all applications
 to go through their review process, and other such things.  NeXTSTEP always
 focused on making the power of the computer as available and easy to use as
 possible.  Apple still do a lot of things much better than anyone else, but
 that is just too high a cost to pay.

 .hc

 On Feb 26, 2012, at 9:56 PM, Rich E wrote:

 Does anyone use Power PC for audio work anymore?  Also, is there a 10.7
 machine? The latter seems more in demand.

 cheers,
 Rich

 On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 wrote:


 So the Mac OS X PowerPC machine from the build farm has died.  The hard
 drive is intact, so all the data is there.  I also have much more limited
 time for maintaining the PdLab machines.  So I'm looking for someone to host
 the Mac OS X PowerPC builds.  It can be really any recent PowerPC Mac.  The
 old machine was a 300MHz G4.

 Can anyone take this on?  I'd hate to see Mac OS X/PowerPC dropped from
 the supported platforms since they are still quite capable machines.

 .hc


 

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Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX

2012-02-27 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

Le 2012-02-27 à 16:44:00, Roman Haefeli a écrit :

On Sun, 2012-02-26 at 11:50 -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:

Le 2012-02-26 à 11:50:00, Roman Haefeli a écrit :

On Fri, 2012-02-24 at 15:16 -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:

Le 2012-02-24 à 20:57:00, Roman Haefeli a écrit :

In what way [import] shouldn't be used inside abstractions?

[import] is not very local, is it ?

But it also works with multi-class externals. See my other mail.

But it's not very local, is it ?

I got it (why are you repeating it?)


Because my point is that it doesn't import names of externals locally. So 
if it's not local, then it doesn't really matter that it does the same (?) 
with multi-class externals, because that's not what it should do.


Fortunately, nameclashes are a relatively rare occurrence, otherwise we'd 
more often hear things like « restart pd in order to avoid nameclashes 
caused by [import] being present in patches that have already been 
closed ».


[zexy/dirac~] just simply doesn't work on a Debian box that has puredata 
and pd-zexy installed. It seems that [zexy/dirac~] adds 'dirac~' to the 
global namespace, not 'zexy/dirac~'. At least, when I create 
[zexy/dirac~] in a patch in Pd-extended, I can create instances of 
[dirac~] afterwards.


So, is this a bug in Zexy, or a bug in the way «namespacing» is 
implemented ? What does this case prove ?


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Re: [PD] choosing your language at launch WAS: Japanese Pure Data book is out now.

2012-02-27 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

Le 2012-02-27 à 10:25:00, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :

I haven't included the latest yet.  If you are on GNU/Linux or Mac OS X 
with Fink or Macports, its easy to generate your own ja.msg file for 
Pd-extended to use.  Let me know and I can walk you throw the process.


BTW, I realised (or remembered ?) that on OSX, the LANG syntax is a bit 
different from what it is on GNU/Linux.


For example, fr_CA.utf8 has to be written fr_CA.UTF-8 instead, uppercase 
and hyphen.


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Re: [PD] Toonloop/Stop Motion in Pure Data

2012-02-27 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

Le 2012-02-27 à 12:00:00, Antonio Roberts a écrit :

Has anyone attempted to make something like Toonloop 
(http://toonloop.com/) in Pure Data? It's basically a live stop motion 
tool.


The basics of it should be a quite small GF patch (or GEM) if you try to 
make one.


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Re: [PD] Mac OS X/PowerPC builds needed

2012-02-27 Thread chris clepper
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 11:05 AM, m.e.grimm megr...@gmail.com wrote:

 what they did with my beloved FCP (X?) really sucked... whats left?
 premiere? kdenlive? they are looking to imovie-atize everything. dont
 make. consume.

 m


OT, but Adobe Premiere works like the FCP replacemet should have.  No need
for tons of 3rd party apps just to open an old FCP file or the latest
video/DSLR cam format.
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Japanese Pure Data book is out now.

2012-02-27 Thread Seiichiro MATSUMURA
Thank you. I will tell your comment to editorial designers, they would
be very happy.
Your daughter might become a first translator? Let's wait for 6 years.

chao,

Sei Matsumura

2012年2月25日6:39 Richie Cyngler glitch...@gmail.com:
 I agree, really beautiful cover! another +1 for wanting to read it too, my
 daughter is learning Japanese at school, so maybe in six years she can have
 a go at translating it (she's learning Pd in English at home xD)
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Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX

2012-02-27 Thread Jonathan Wilkes




- Original Message -
 From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca
 To: Roman Haefeli reduz...@gmail.com
 Cc: pd-list pd-list@iem.at
 Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 11:40 AM
 Subject: Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX
 
 Le 2012-02-27 à 16:44:00, Roman Haefeli a écrit :
  On Sun, 2012-02-26 at 11:50 -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
  Le 2012-02-26 à 11:50:00, Roman Haefeli a écrit :
  On Fri, 2012-02-24 at 15:16 -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
  Le 2012-02-24 à 20:57:00, Roman Haefeli a écrit :
  In what way [import] shouldn't be used inside 
 abstractions?
  [import] is not very local, is it ?
  But it also works with multi-class externals. See my other mail.
  But it's not very local, is it ?
  I got it (why are you repeating it?)
 
 Because my point is that it doesn't import names of externals locally. So if 
 it's not local, then it doesn't really matter that it does the same (?) 
 with multi-class externals, because that's not what it should do.
 
 Fortunately, nameclashes are a relatively rare occurrence, otherwise we'd 
 more often hear things like « restart pd in order to avoid nameclashes caused 
 by 
 [import] being present in patches that have already been closed ».
 
  [zexy/dirac~] just simply doesn't work on a Debian box that has 
 puredata and pd-zexy installed. It seems that [zexy/dirac~] adds 
 'dirac~' to the global namespace, not 'zexy/dirac~'. At least, 
 when I create [zexy/dirac~] in a patch in Pd-extended, I can create instances 
 of 
 [dirac~] afterwards.
 
 So, is this a bug in Zexy, or a bug in the way «namespacing» is implemented ? 
 What does this case prove ?

Here is (maybe) a related issue:
* patch a.pd has abstraction [foo/prop_dialog]
* patch b.pd has abstraction [bar/prop_dialog]

I send vis 1 message to pd-prop_dialog.pd and both foo/prop_dialog and 
bar/prop_dialog 
will pop up.  How do I vis just foo/prop_dialog?

So just use [sendcanvas] or [namecanvas] or whatever.  But let's say I've got 
an abstraction 
[foo/sosc~] that scales its output based on its (x,y) vicinity to other 
instances of itself 
in the patch.  So I broadcast a message to pd-sosc~.pd to get all the x,y 
positions, but this 
will send to bar/sosc~, too.

Sorry for the obscure example, but I think it's important for abstractions to 
have some way 
of accessing class-wide data-- like this:

[receive pd-someabstraction.pd]
|
[route echo]
|
[route our_shared_float]
|
| [42, bang(  -- let's change and tell all our siblings the shared float
|/
[v $0-count]
|
[prepend echo our_shared_float]
|
[list trim]
|
[send pd-someabstraction.pd]

All abstraction can now get the shared float to [v $0-count], but we'll be 
leaking it 
to any other abstraction in the global namespace that happens to have the name 
we 
gave to our abstraction.  Registering the abstraction's name as 
pd-foo/someabstraction.pd 
would fix this, but I'm not sure what side effects this would cause.

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Re: [PD] Mac OS X/PowerPC builds needed

2012-02-27 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
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On 2012-02-27 02:56, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 
 So the Mac OS X PowerPC machine from the build farm has died.  The hard drive 
 is intact, so all the data is there.  I also have much more limited time for 
 maintaining the PdLab machines.  So I'm looking for someone to host the Mac 
 OS X PowerPC builds.  It can be really any recent PowerPC Mac.  The old 
 machine was a 300MHz G4.
 
 Can anyone take this on?  I'd hate to see Mac OS X/PowerPC dropped from the 
 supported platforms since they are still quite capable machines.
 

i think the iem could dedicate a G4 (733MHz, 750MB) machine.
it's currently running 10.4;

i will have to wipe the disk first of course, but afaik it's not going
to be used any more.

i was hoping for a G5, but unfortunately the only one left is very
unstable and won't boot every other day (and if it boots it will power
down for no apparent reasons after some minutes/hours)

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Re: [PD] Toonloop/Stop Motion in Pure Data

2012-02-27 Thread Antonio Roberts
Thanks. Do you have any example patches to work from?

Ant

On 27 February 2012 16:45, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote:
 Le 2012-02-27 à 12:00:00, Antonio Roberts a écrit :


 Has anyone attempted to make something like Toonloop
 (http://toonloop.com/) in Pure Data? It's basically a live stop motion tool.


 The basics of it should be a quite small GF patch (or GEM) if you try to
 make one.

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Re: [PD] choosing your language at launch WAS: Japanese Pure Data book is out now.

2012-02-27 Thread Seiichiro MATSUMURA
Thank you. I use Mac OS10.7 with Macports on Macbook Air 2011mid.
Xcode4.2.1 is also installed.

Best,

Sei

2012年2月28日0:25 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at:

 I haven't included the latest yet.  If you are on GNU/Linux or Mac OS X with 
 Fink or Macports, its easy to generate your own ja.msg file for Pd-extended 
 to use.  Let me know and I can walk you throw the process.

 .hc

 On Feb 27, 2012, at 7:02 AM, Seiichiro Matsumura wrote:

 Hi Hans,

 Thank you for the quick update. I would like to check it but I can't
 approach to pd-extended git because I am not a geek user even writing
 Pd book.
 It seems the latest translation is not yet reflected on
 Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120226. Is there any other ways I could check it?
 Sorry for bothering you.
 I also asked Chikashi to check the translation before release. Double
 check must be necessary.

 Best,

 Sei Matsumura

 2012年2月25日6:56 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at:

 I was updating pd-extended.git, so I threw in the new Japanese
 translation :-).  I'll be sure to update it one last time before the
 final release, so you can test it in a real build.

 I'm all for choice with the language of the app, but it seems to me that
 is something that the OS should handle.  So anyone who set their system
 language to English will get Pd-extended in English.  For those who want
 some mix of languages, then there is no standard technique that I know
 of, and how you do it varies on each OS.  If someone wants to code this
 for Pd-extended, patches are welcome.

 For the geeks, you can select the language easily when launching Pd from
 the terminal.  This is what I do for testing the language support:

 $ export LANG=en
 $ /usr/bin/pd-extended

 or on Mac OS X:

 $ /Applications/Pd-extended/Contents/Resources/bin/pd

 You can see the supported languages in the po/ folder inside Pd.

 .hc

 On 02/23/2012 11:54 PM, Seiichiro MATSUMURA wrote:
 Thanks.
 I finished Transifex work in Japanese 100%. Then I was surprised my
 partly inputs of Transifex in middle of Feb. is already reflected in
 0.43.1-beta 20120223.

 However, it seems working automatic depends on system language of OSX, now.
 I think it would be nice if users can select language mode in
 Preferences, for example like Audacity's language setting. Because
 many Japanese users (especially geeks) already get used to the general
 English menu and interfaces.
 Of course, Japanese interfaces is truly helpful for Japanese Pd newbies.
 So languages selectable is the ideal.

 Cheers,

 Sei Matsumura
 --
 __/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/
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 s...@low-tech-ism.com
 http://low-tech-ism.com/
 __/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/

 2012/2/22 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at:
 That's great! I wish I could read it.  I love the idea of including the 
 interviews and the PdCon report, it shows the multidimensionality of Pd.  
 Its not just software, but the community behind it as well.

 To match this release, I think it would be nice to also have a complete 
 Japanese translation of the Pd interface. To contribute, create an 
 account on transifex and edit the Japanese translation in this webform:
 https://www.transifex.net/projects/p/puredata/resource/templatepot/

 .hc

 On Feb 20, 2012, at 3:38 AM, Seiichiro MATSUMURA wrote:

 Dear list,

 The world first Japanese Pure Data book for sound programming will be
 published from BNN(Bug News Network) Inc. on 23rd Feb. 2012 in Japan.
 The title is Pd Recipe Book -Sound Programming with Pure Data. This
 book is written for the programming newbies with the step by step type
 tutorials.
 If you know anybody who can read Japanese and hope to jump into the Pd
 world, please recommend this book.

 Web site (Japanese)
 Pd Recipe Book -Sound Programming with Pure Data
 http://www.bnn.co.jp/books/title_index/web/pd_recipe_book_pure_data.html#more

 I hope this become the starting point to spread Pd in Japan.

 best wishes,

 Sei Matsumura

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Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX

2012-02-27 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
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you mean something like [1]?

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Re: [PD] Toonloop/Stop Motion in Pure Data

2012-02-27 Thread chris clepper
pix_video into pix_write will do it.

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Antonio Roberts
anto...@hellocatfood.comwrote:

 Thanks. Do you have any example patches to work from?

 Ant

 On 27 February 2012 16:45, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote:
  Le 2012-02-27 à 12:00:00, Antonio Roberts a écrit :
 
 
  Has anyone attempted to make something like Toonloop
  (http://toonloop.com/) in Pure Data? It's basically a live stop motion
 tool.
 
 
  The basics of it should be a quite small GF patch (or GEM) if you try to
  make one.
 
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Re: [PD] Toonloop/Stop Motion in Pure Data

2012-02-27 Thread Antonio Roberts
Got a example patch to explain further?
On Feb 27, 2012 5:55 PM, chris clepper cgclep...@gmail.com wrote:

 pix_video into pix_write will do it.

 On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Antonio Roberts 
 anto...@hellocatfood.com wrote:

 Thanks. Do you have any example patches to work from?

 Ant

 On 27 February 2012 16:45, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote:
  Le 2012-02-27 à 12:00:00, Antonio Roberts a écrit :
 
 
  Has anyone attempted to make something like Toonloop
  (http://toonloop.com/) in Pure Data? It's basically a live stop
 motion tool.
 
 
  The basics of it should be a quite small GF patch (or GEM) if you try to
  make one.
 
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Re: [PD] Toonloop/Stop Motion in Pure Data

2012-02-27 Thread Pagano, Patrick
Create a patch that uses key [spacebar] to write a jpg to pix write from 
pix_video
Also ask Alexander Quessy to get toonloop to work on mac again :)

pp

From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of 
Antonio Roberts
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 1:11 PM
To: chris clepper
Cc: PD List
Subject: Re: [PD] Toonloop/Stop Motion in Pure Data


Got a example patch to explain further?
On Feb 27, 2012 5:55 PM, chris clepper 
cgclep...@gmail.commailto:cgclep...@gmail.com wrote:
pix_video into pix_write will do it.
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Antonio Roberts 
anto...@hellocatfood.commailto:anto...@hellocatfood.com wrote:
Thanks. Do you have any example patches to work from?

Ant

On 27 February 2012 16:45, Mathieu Bouchard 
ma...@artengine.camailto:ma...@artengine.ca wrote:
 Le 2012-02-27 à 12:00:00, Antonio Roberts a écrit :


 Has anyone attempted to make something like Toonloop
 (http://toonloop.com/) in Pure Data? It's basically a live stop motion tool.


 The basics of it should be a quite small GF patch (or GEM) if you try to
 make one.

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 - Montréal, QC


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Re: [PD] Toonloop/Stop Motion in Pure Data

2012-02-27 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

Le 2012-02-27 à 17:28:00, Antonio Roberts a écrit :


Thanks. Do you have any example patches to work from?


Dunno... find something with a 4-dimensional [#store] : there are some 
examples that use such multi-frame buffers for making delay-based effects. 
Those can be recorded to at any speed, and the speed is implicit : you 
always store in terms of one grid that you put into another grid (or in 
place of another grid), so you control frames one by one and can make 
single snapshots easily.


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Re: [PD] Toonloop/Stop Motion in Pure Data

2012-02-27 Thread Antonio Roberts
Thank! That's the exact problem I have. I can easily save a frame of
an image, but to display them back immediately afterwards is what I
want to do.

Like some people I've had troubles with [pix_write] and [pix_record]
and even then I don't think it'll solve the problem of loading them
back into PD (it'll only save the files)

As for getting Toonloop working on a mac, that's something you have to
ask Alexandre Quessy ;-)

Ant

On 27 February 2012 18:20, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote:
 Seriously

 I think your issue will be viewing the recordings immediately, if that’s
 what you are after.

 Creating a stop motioner should be easy

 What everyone is saying is that NO, no –one has tried and you should look at
 pix_video’s help file and pix_write help file



 Kind regards



 pp





 From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of
 Pagano, Patrick
 Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 1:14 PM
 To: Antonio Roberts; chris clepper


 Cc: PD List
 Subject: Re: [PD] Toonloop/Stop Motion in Pure Data



 Create a patch that uses key [spacebar] to write a jpg to pix write from
 pix_video

 Also ask Alexander Quessy to get toonloop to work on mac again J



 pp



 From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of
 Antonio Roberts
 Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 1:11 PM
 To: chris clepper
 Cc: PD List
 Subject: Re: [PD] Toonloop/Stop Motion in Pure Data



 Got a example patch to explain further?

 On Feb 27, 2012 5:55 PM, chris clepper cgclep...@gmail.com wrote:

 pix_video into pix_write will do it.

 On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Antonio Roberts anto...@hellocatfood.com
 wrote:

 Thanks. Do you have any example patches to work from?

 Ant


 On 27 February 2012 16:45, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote:
 Le 2012-02-27 à 12:00:00, Antonio Roberts a écrit :


 Has anyone attempted to make something like Toonloop
 (http://toonloop.com/) in Pure Data? It's basically a live stop motion
 tool.


 The basics of it should be a quite small GF patch (or GEM) if you try to
 make one.

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Re: [PD] Mac OS X/PowerPC builds needed

2012-02-27 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

On Feb 27, 2012, at 11:05 AM, m.e.grimm wrote:

 the build
 kinks on 10.7, I'm sure he'd like some company in that misery.
 
 in fink, out of hans's pd-extended-dev script, on 10.7, the only thing
 not building is:
 
 gmerlin
 
 here is the error from the termilal:
 
 http://pastebin.com/w6L9LMPm
 
 if anyone wants to help?
 
 a 10.7 build system would be nice yes.
 
 builds on 10.5 and 10.6 should work fine on 10.7, so there isn't much of a
 need for a 10.7 build server.
 
 might ease 64 bit builds on osx? since at least for my fink install
 all the libs are compiled 64 bit...

I think 10.6 builds 64-bit fine, at least so far on the 10.6 build server and 
my 10.6 laptop.

.hc



 iOS especially for my laptop, and Apple seems to be planning the end of Mac
 OS X, and is replacing it chunk by chunk with iOS.
 
 what they did with my beloved FCP (X?) really sucked... whats left?
 premiere? kdenlive? they are looking to imovie-atize everything. dont
 make. consume.
 
 m
 
 
 
 
 On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at 
 wrote:
 
 I'm sure people who have PPC equipment still use it ;-)  As for 10.7, the
 builds on 10.5 and 10.6 should work fine on 10.7, so there isn't much of a
 need for a 10.7 build server.  Mark Grimm has been working out the build
 kinks on 10.7, I'm sure he'd like some company in that misery.
 
 As for me, 10.6 will be the last version of Mac OS X I use.  I don't like
 iOS especially for my laptop, and Apple seems to be planning the end of Mac
 OS X, and is replacing it chunk by chunk with iOS.  I've been using NeXTSTEP
 since 1994, and Mac OS X is really just the continuation of NeXTSTEP.  More
 and more, the continuation of the ideas that make NeXTSTEP so great are
 happening outside of Apple, with projects like Étoilé http://etoileos.com/
 and GNUstep.
 
 One idea in Étoilé that blew me away with its awesomeness and inevitability
 was the idea of the OS providing the core frameworks for all document types,
 and that core framework keeps all revisions of the document permanently.
  Its time for File-Save to go away, disk space is cheap, the every app
 should save documents with the entire history of how they were created.
 
 Apple, on the other hand, seems to be focused on people who want to have
 their nice big corporation do their thinking for them.  So they are working
 hard to lock their users out of their own systems, forcing all applications
 to go through their review process, and other such things.  NeXTSTEP always
 focused on making the power of the computer as available and easy to use as
 possible.  Apple still do a lot of things much better than anyone else, but
 that is just too high a cost to pay.
 
 .hc
 
 On Feb 26, 2012, at 9:56 PM, Rich E wrote:
 
 Does anyone use Power PC for audio work anymore?  Also, is there a 10.7
 machine? The latter seems more in demand.
 
 cheers,
 Rich
 
 On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 wrote:
 
 
 So the Mac OS X PowerPC machine from the build farm has died.  The hard
 drive is intact, so all the data is there.  I also have much more limited
 time for maintaining the PdLab machines.  So I'm looking for someone to host
 the Mac OS X PowerPC builds.  It can be really any recent PowerPC Mac.  The
 old machine was a 300MHz G4.
 
 Can anyone take this on?  I'd hate to see Mac OS X/PowerPC dropped from
 the supported platforms since they are still quite capable machines.
 
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Re: [PD] choosing your language at launch WAS: Japanese Pure Data book is out now.

2012-02-27 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

Ok, with MacPorts, install the 'gettext' and 'git-core' ports.  Then run these 
commands in the Terminal:

 git clone git://pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pd-extended.git
 cd pd-extended
 ./autogen.sh
 ./configure
 cd po
 make

That will make all of the translation files.  Now download for use the 
Japanese translation from Transifex.  Rename it 'ja.po', and copy it into 
'pd-extended/po' overwriting the file that's there.  Now you can make an 
updated version by running 'make' again.

To install your generated ja.msg file, right-click on the Pd-extended 0.43 app, 
and Show Package Contents.  Navigate to Contents/Resources/po and drop 
'ja.po' into place there.  Next time you start Pd-extended, it should have your 
updated translation.

.hc

On Feb 27, 2012, at 12:29 PM, Seiichiro MATSUMURA wrote:

 Thank you. I use Mac OS10.7 with Macports on Macbook Air 2011mid.
 Xcode4.2.1 is also installed.
 
 Best,
 
 Sei
 
 2012年2月28日0:25 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at:
 
 I haven't included the latest yet.  If you are on GNU/Linux or Mac OS X with 
 Fink or Macports, its easy to generate your own ja.msg file for Pd-extended 
 to use.  Let me know and I can walk you throw the process.
 
 .hc
 
 On Feb 27, 2012, at 7:02 AM, Seiichiro Matsumura wrote:
 
 Hi Hans,
 
 Thank you for the quick update. I would like to check it but I can't
 approach to pd-extended git because I am not a geek user even writing
 Pd book.
 It seems the latest translation is not yet reflected on
 Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120226. Is there any other ways I could check it?
 Sorry for bothering you.
 I also asked Chikashi to check the translation before release. Double
 check must be necessary.
 
 Best,
 
 Sei Matsumura
 
 2012年2月25日6:56 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at:
 
 I was updating pd-extended.git, so I threw in the new Japanese
 translation :-).  I'll be sure to update it one last time before the
 final release, so you can test it in a real build.
 
 I'm all for choice with the language of the app, but it seems to me that
 is something that the OS should handle.  So anyone who set their system
 language to English will get Pd-extended in English.  For those who want
 some mix of languages, then there is no standard technique that I know
 of, and how you do it varies on each OS.  If someone wants to code this
 for Pd-extended, patches are welcome.
 
 For the geeks, you can select the language easily when launching Pd from
 the terminal.  This is what I do for testing the language support:
 
 $ export LANG=en
 $ /usr/bin/pd-extended
 
 or on Mac OS X:
 
 $ /Applications/Pd-extended/Contents/Resources/bin/pd
 
 You can see the supported languages in the po/ folder inside Pd.
 
 .hc
 
 On 02/23/2012 11:54 PM, Seiichiro MATSUMURA wrote:
 Thanks.
 I finished Transifex work in Japanese 100%. Then I was surprised my
 partly inputs of Transifex in middle of Feb. is already reflected in
 0.43.1-beta 20120223.
 
 However, it seems working automatic depends on system language of OSX, 
 now.
 I think it would be nice if users can select language mode in
 Preferences, for example like Audacity's language setting. Because
 many Japanese users (especially geeks) already get used to the general
 English menu and interfaces.
 Of course, Japanese interfaces is truly helpful for Japanese Pd newbies.
 So languages selectable is the ideal.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Sei Matsumura
 --
 __/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/
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 s...@low-tech-ism.com
 http://low-tech-ism.com/
 __/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/
 
 2012/2/22 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at:
 That's great! I wish I could read it.  I love the idea of including the 
 interviews and the PdCon report, it shows the multidimensionality of Pd. 
  Its not just software, but the community behind it as well.
 
 To match this release, I think it would be nice to also have a complete 
 Japanese translation of the Pd interface. To contribute, create an 
 account on transifex and edit the Japanese translation in this webform:
 https://www.transifex.net/projects/p/puredata/resource/templatepot/
 
 .hc
 
 On Feb 20, 2012, at 3:38 AM, Seiichiro MATSUMURA wrote:
 
 Dear list,
 
 The world first Japanese Pure Data book for sound programming will be
 published from BNN(Bug News Network) Inc. on 23rd Feb. 2012 in Japan.
 The title is Pd Recipe Book -Sound Programming with Pure Data. This
 book is written for the programming newbies with the step by step type
 tutorials.
 If you know anybody who can read Japanese and hope to jump into the Pd
 world, please recommend this book.
 
 Web site (Japanese)
 Pd Recipe Book -Sound Programming with Pure Data
 http://www.bnn.co.jp/books/title_index/web/pd_recipe_book_pure_data.html#more
 
 I hope this become the starting point to spread Pd in Japan.
 
 best wishes,
 
 Sei Matsumura
 
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Re: [PD] Toonloop/Stop Motion in Pure Data

2012-02-27 Thread Antonio Roberts
I just had an idea. Is there any way of getting the contents of a
folder shown in [playlist] to automatically update? You can scroll
through and load the contents of [playlist] by using [seek $1( and a
number. The only problem is in order to refresh the contents you have
to navigate to another folder and then back again.

If that's not possible is there an alternative option for browsing the
contents of a folder?

Ant

On 27 February 2012 18:34, Antonio Roberts anto...@hellocatfood.com wrote:
 Thank! That's the exact problem I have. I can easily save a frame of
 an image, but to display them back immediately afterwards is what I
 want to do.

 Like some people I've had troubles with [pix_write] and [pix_record]
 and even then I don't think it'll solve the problem of loading them
 back into PD (it'll only save the files)

 As for getting Toonloop working on a mac, that's something you have to
 ask Alexandre Quessy ;-)

 Ant

 On 27 February 2012 18:20, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote:
 Seriously

 I think your issue will be viewing the recordings immediately, if that’s
 what you are after.

 Creating a stop motioner should be easy

 What everyone is saying is that NO, no –one has tried and you should look at
 pix_video’s help file and pix_write help file



 Kind regards



 pp





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 Pagano, Patrick
 Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 1:14 PM
 To: Antonio Roberts; chris clepper


 Cc: PD List
 Subject: Re: [PD] Toonloop/Stop Motion in Pure Data



 Create a patch that uses key [spacebar] to write a jpg to pix write from
 pix_video

 Also ask Alexander Quessy to get toonloop to work on mac again J



 pp



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 Antonio Roberts
 Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 1:11 PM
 To: chris clepper
 Cc: PD List
 Subject: Re: [PD] Toonloop/Stop Motion in Pure Data



 Got a example patch to explain further?

 On Feb 27, 2012 5:55 PM, chris clepper cgclep...@gmail.com wrote:

 pix_video into pix_write will do it.

 On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Antonio Roberts anto...@hellocatfood.com
 wrote:

 Thanks. Do you have any example patches to work from?

 Ant


 On 27 February 2012 16:45, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote:
 Le 2012-02-27 à 12:00:00, Antonio Roberts a écrit :


 Has anyone attempted to make something like Toonloop
 (http://toonloop.com/) in Pure Data? It's basically a live stop motion
 tool.


 The basics of it should be a quite small GF patch (or GEM) if you try to
 make one.

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Re: [PD] Mac OS X/PowerPC builds needed

2012-02-27 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

On Feb 27, 2012, at 12:22 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 On 2012-02-27 02:56, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 
 So the Mac OS X PowerPC machine from the build farm has died.  The hard 
 drive is intact, so all the data is there.  I also have much more limited 
 time for maintaining the PdLab machines.  So I'm looking for someone to host 
 the Mac OS X PowerPC builds.  It can be really any recent PowerPC Mac.  The 
 old machine was a 300MHz G4.
 
 Can anyone take this on?  I'd hate to see Mac OS X/PowerPC dropped from the 
 supported platforms since they are still quite capable machines.
 
 
 i think the iem could dedicate a G4 (733MHz, 750MB) machine.
 it's currently running 10.4;
 
 i will have to wipe the disk first of course, but afaik it's not going
 to be used any more.
 
 i was hoping for a G5, but unfortunately the only one left is very
 unstable and won't boot every other day (and if it boots it will power
 down for no apparent reasons after some minutes/hours)

Greg Pond has also offered a machine.  Either works for me.  A 10.4 machine 
would be nice so we can support 10.4 too.  Basically, it just needs 10.4 and 
Xcode with all the updates, then Fink and JackOSX.  That's it.  If I have ssh 
root access, I can do the setup remotely.

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Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX

2012-02-27 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

On Feb 27, 2012, at 12:31 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 On 2012-02-27 18:22, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
 
 Sorry for the obscure example, but I think it's important for abstractions 
 to have some way 
 of accessing class-wide data-- like this:
 
 you mean something like [1]?
 
 fgmasdr
 IOhannes
 
 [1]
 https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=1403917group_id=55736atid=478072

Yeah, that makes sense.

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Re: [PD] Mac OS X/PowerPC builds needed

2012-02-27 Thread Greg Pond
I will check the specs on my machines and get back to you soon. We have
several surplus g4 and g5 towers here. IOhannes has a lot more knowledge
and experience than I do so if he wants to do it then I am happy to turn it
over to him- whatever is the best to keep the builds going.

Greg

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote:


 On Feb 27, 2012, at 12:22 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:

  -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
  Hash: SHA1
 
  On 2012-02-27 02:56, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 
  So the Mac OS X PowerPC machine from the build farm has died.  The hard
 drive is intact, so all the data is there.  I also have much more limited
 time for maintaining the PdLab machines.  So I'm looking for someone to
 host the Mac OS X PowerPC builds.  It can be really any recent PowerPC Mac.
  The old machine was a 300MHz G4.
 
  Can anyone take this on?  I'd hate to see Mac OS X/PowerPC dropped from
 the supported platforms since they are still quite capable machines.
 
 
  i think the iem could dedicate a G4 (733MHz, 750MB) machine.
  it's currently running 10.4;
 
  i will have to wipe the disk first of course, but afaik it's not going
  to be used any more.
 
  i was hoping for a G5, but unfortunately the only one left is very
  unstable and won't boot every other day (and if it boots it will power
  down for no apparent reasons after some minutes/hours)

 Greg Pond has also offered a machine.  Either works for me.  A 10.4
 machine would be nice so we can support 10.4 too.  Basically, it just needs
 10.4 and Xcode with all the updates, then Fink and JackOSX.  That's it.  If
 I have ssh root access, I can do the setup remotely.

 .hc


 

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Re: [PD] Mac OS X/PowerPC builds needed

2012-02-27 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

IOhannes is also the central point of failure for a lot of Pd.  There is only 
so much on person can do, so I figure its good to spread the work around :-)

As for running this box, as long as its online, I can easily maintain it.  
Someone local just needs to be able to keep it booted up and connected to the 
internet.

.hc

On Feb 27, 2012, at 2:32 PM, Greg Pond wrote:

 I will check the specs on my machines and get back to you soon. We have 
 several surplus g4 and g5 towers here. IOhannes has a lot more knowledge and 
 experience than I do so if he wants to do it then I am happy to turn it over 
 to him- whatever is the best to keep the builds going. 
 
 Greg
 
 On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at 
 wrote:
 
 On Feb 27, 2012, at 12:22 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
 
  -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
  Hash: SHA1
 
  On 2012-02-27 02:56, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 
  So the Mac OS X PowerPC machine from the build farm has died.  The hard 
  drive is intact, so all the data is there.  I also have much more limited 
  time for maintaining the PdLab machines.  So I'm looking for someone to 
  host the Mac OS X PowerPC builds.  It can be really any recent PowerPC 
  Mac.  The old machine was a 300MHz G4.
 
  Can anyone take this on?  I'd hate to see Mac OS X/PowerPC dropped from 
  the supported platforms since they are still quite capable machines.
 
 
  i think the iem could dedicate a G4 (733MHz, 750MB) machine.
  it's currently running 10.4;
 
  i will have to wipe the disk first of course, but afaik it's not going
  to be used any more.
 
  i was hoping for a G5, but unfortunately the only one left is very
  unstable and won't boot every other day (and if it boots it will power
  down for no apparent reasons after some minutes/hours)
 
 Greg Pond has also offered a machine.  Either works for me.  A 10.4 machine 
 would be nice so we can support 10.4 too.  Basically, it just needs 10.4 and 
 Xcode with all the updates, then Fink and JackOSX.  That's it.  If I have ssh 
 root access, I can do the setup remotely.
 
 .hc
 
 
 
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Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX

2012-02-27 Thread Jonathan Wilkes




- Original Message -
 From: IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at
 To: pd-list pd-list@iem.at
 Cc: 
 Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 12:31 PM
 Subject: Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX
 
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 On 2012-02-27 18:22, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
 
  Sorry for the obscure example, but I think it's important for 
 abstractions to have some way 
  of accessing class-wide data-- like this:
 
 you mean something like [1]?

Exactly!  I looked at that after I started fooling around with my canvas get 
method, 
but I forgot about it.  It looks like you are addinga receive-symbol so it 
should be backwards 
compatible.

Hans-- if there are no side effects to this, could you add this patch to pd 
extended?

Any idea what Miller's comment means by a control inlet for canvases?  Miller?

-Jonathan

 
 fgmasdr
 IOhannes
 
 [1]
 https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=1403917group_id=55736atid=478072
 
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Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX

2012-02-27 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

Le 2012-02-27 à 12:11:00, Jonathan Wilkes a écrit :


Any idea what Miller's comment means by a control inlet for canvases? 


It means that mysterious remarks made six years ago should be disregarded.

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pdlua and tclpd: now embedded in Pd-extended 0.43

2012-02-27 Thread András Murányi
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 02:15, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:


 There are two new, easy ways to write objects for Pd: tclpd by Federico
 Ferri and pdlua by Claude Heiland-Allen, Frank Barknecht and Martin Peach.
  Both are now included in Pd-extended 0.43 and are automatically loaded at
 startup. [...]


I was so excited to try tclpd, that even though pd 0.43 happens not to work
under my user account, I gave it a go under another account. Let me share
my not so merry experience, and sorry if it goes beyond tclpd itself.

So this a user account that never ran pd-extended, although it (latest
autobuild) is already installed on the machine (Ubuntu Lucid).

I start a new patch and try to create [tclpd], i get this error:

maximum object loading depth 1000 reached
 tclpd
... couldn't create

I quit so I can add tclpd to the preferences file, but I find there is no
.pdextended file.

I go to preferences, it lets me add the path to tclpd, I click Apply, OK.
As we, the well-connected know it now, this has no practical effect -
except that it seems that on quit, a new default .pdextended is created -
with no reference to tclpd however.

I open .pdextended in a text editor and add tclpd to the only list there
is: 'loadlib'.

I go back to pd, [tclpd] still won't create.

Back to text editor, copy-paste 'path' section of another user's
.pdextended into this one, add tclpd.

Back to pd, [tclpd] still won't create.


This is where I am now.
Please tell me if I'm doing anything wrong and/or if I shall file any of
this as a bug.


Thanks,

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Re: [PD] pdlua and tclpd: now embedded in Pd-extended 0.43

2012-02-27 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On 02/27/2012 03:39 PM, András Murányi wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 02:15, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 mailto:h...@at.or.at wrote:


 There are two new, easy ways to write objects for Pd: tclpd by
 Federico Ferri and pdlua by Claude Heiland-Allen, Frank Barknecht
 and Martin Peach.  Both are now included in Pd-extended 0.43 and
 are automatically loaded at startup. [...]


 I was so excited to try tclpd, that even though pd 0.43 happens not to
 work under my user account, I gave it a go under another account. Let
 me share my not so merry experience, and sorry if it goes beyond tclpd
 itself.

 So this a user account that never ran pd-extended, although it (latest
 autobuild) is already installed on the machine (Ubuntu Lucid).

 I start a new patch and try to create [tclpd], i get this error:

 maximum object loading depth 1000 reached
  tclpd
 ... couldn't create

 I quit so I can add tclpd to the preferences file, but I find there is
 no .pdextended file.

 I go to preferences, it lets me add the path to tclpd, I click Apply,
 OK. As we, the well-connected know it now, this has no practical
 effect - except that it seems that on quit, a new default .pdextended
 is created - with no reference to tclpd however.

 I open .pdextended in a text editor and add tclpd to the only list
 there is: 'loadlib'.

 I go back to pd, [tclpd] still won't create.

 Back to text editor, copy-paste 'path' section of another user's
 .pdextended into this one, add tclpd.

 Back to pd, [tclpd] still won't create.


 This is where I am now.
 Please tell me if I'm doing anything wrong and/or if I shall file any
 of this as a bug.

There is no [tclpd] object as far as I know.  tclpd is a loader
library that is loaded automatically at start by the new 'startup'
mechanism in Pd-extended 0.43.  To use it, try out one of the examples
in the Help Browser - tclpd - examples.  Or try downloading the
'tclfile' library and dropping it into ~/pd-externals.  You can see the
Tcl script that made the open by right-clicking and selecting Open.

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] libpd, the book!

2012-02-27 Thread Matthew Logan
A lyrebird!!  Good call.  My favorite of all birds.

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 5:42 PM, Peter Brinkmann 
peter.brinkm...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 I'm happy to announce the release of my book on mobile audio
 development with libpd:
 http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920022503.do

 The ebook version is available now; printed copies will be available
 from amazon.com next week.
 Cheers,
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pdlua and tclpd: now embedded in Pd-extended 0.43

2012-02-27 Thread m.e.grimm
 pdlua and tclpd.

clll..

  Pd: pyext for Python

any chance for this in extended? there was some issue on the list
about this a while ago no? but i have forgot. unless im just having a
flashback.

m

On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 8:15 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:

 There are two new, easy ways to write objects for Pd: tclpd by Federico Ferri 
 and pdlua by Claude Heiland-Allen, Frank Barknecht and Martin Peach.  Both 
 are now included in Pd-extended 0.43 and are automatically loaded at startup. 
  That means you can write a script in Lua or Tcl and have that script be a 
 true object in Pd.  Both pdlua and tclpd provide the large majority of the Pd 
 externals API, and you can even write GUI objects using tclpd.

 Tcl and Lua both excel at handling strings, one thing that Pd is not the best 
 at, so if you have a project that needs to parse or manage a lot of strings, 
 then you have a new approach.

 There are some other ways of using other languages to write objects for Pd: 
 pyext for Python and pdj for Java.  These two are different in a key way than 
 pdlua and tclpd.  pyext and pdj allow you to load scripts into an object 
 called [pyext] or [pdj].   tclpd and pdlua let you create full Pd objects 
 that are completely transparent to the user.  You create an object written in 
 tclpd or pdlua just like any other Pd object, and those objects can have 
 their own help patch too.

 Both pdlua and tclpd come with a lot of examples, go to the Help Browser and 
 find them in the list of libraries there.  I also started writing the 
 'tclfile' library to bring the Tcl file API to Pd:

 http://puredata.info/downloads/tclfile

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Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX

2012-02-27 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

Le 2012-02-27 à 12:58:00, Jonathan Wilkes a écrit :

From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca
It means that mysterious remarks made six years ago should be disregarded.
But what if this mysterious control inlet could be the key that unlocks the 
door to Maximus P?  How long must we [bang(--[until] we reach the promised land?


I don't know. I don't want to go to Maximus P.

Isn't Maximus P an optional side quest ?

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Re: [PD] pdlua and tclpd: now embedded in Pd-extended 0.43

2012-02-27 Thread András Murányi
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 21:52, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:

  On 02/27/2012 03:39 PM, András Murányi wrote:

 On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 02:15, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote:


 There are two new, easy ways to write objects for Pd: tclpd by Federico
 Ferri and pdlua by Claude Heiland-Allen, Frank Barknecht and Martin Peach.
  Both are now included in Pd-extended 0.43 and are automatically loaded at
 startup. [...]


 I was so excited to try tclpd, that even though pd 0.43 happens not to
 work under my user account, I gave it a go under another account. Let me
 share my not so merry experience, and sorry if it goes beyond tclpd itself.

 So this a user account that never ran pd-extended, although it (latest
 autobuild) is already installed on the machine (Ubuntu Lucid).

 I start a new patch and try to create [tclpd], i get this error:

 maximum object loading depth 1000 reached
  tclpd
 ... couldn't create

 I quit so I can add tclpd to the preferences file, but I find there is no
 .pdextended file.

 I go to preferences, it lets me add the path to tclpd, I click Apply, OK.
 As we, the well-connected know it now, this has no practical effect -
 except that it seems that on quit, a new default .pdextended is created -
 with no reference to tclpd however.

 I open .pdextended in a text editor and add tclpd to the only list there
 is: 'loadlib'.

 I go back to pd, [tclpd] still won't create.

 Back to text editor, copy-paste 'path' section of another user's
 .pdextended into this one, add tclpd.

 Back to pd, [tclpd] still won't create.


 This is where I am now.
 Please tell me if I'm doing anything wrong and/or if I shall file any of
 this as a bug.


 There is no [tclpd] object as far as I know.  tclpd is a loader library
 that is loaded automatically at start by the new 'startup' mechanism in
 Pd-extended 0.43.  To use it, try out one of the examples in the Help
 Browser - tclpd - examples.  Or try downloading the 'tclfile' library and
 dropping it into ~/pd-externals.  You can see the Tcl script that made the
 open by right-clicking and selecting Open.

 .hc


:o)
I imagined something like [widget]... for no good reason then.

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Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX

2012-02-27 Thread Jonathan Wilkes




- Original Message -
 From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca
 To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
 Cc: IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at; pd-list pd-list@iem.at
 Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 4:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX
 
 Le 2012-02-27 à 12:58:00, Jonathan Wilkes a écrit :
  From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca
  It means that mysterious remarks made six years ago should be 
 disregarded.
  But what if this mysterious control inlet could be the key that 
 unlocks the door to Maximus P?  How long must we [bang(--[until] we reach the 
 promised land?
 
 I don't know. I don't want to go to Maximus P.
 
 Isn't Maximus P an optional side quest ?

No, this is a side-quest...
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[PD] OSC Sequencer IanniX

2012-02-27 Thread Christoph Kuhr

Hi,

I wanted to announce a cool OSC sequencer.

IanniX
www.IanniX.org

until now i didnt hear anything of it here so i thought it could be
interesting for many others out there...

the community is still small and the software really powerful!

if someone is already using it, i would be glad to share some experience!

regads
Ck


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Re: [PD] OSC Sequencer IanniX

2012-02-27 Thread Andy Farnell

I'm glad to see this is still alive. 
It's quite old now right? A few years back I was very
excited by it and downloaded and spent too long trying to 
get it to compile. I hope the build/dependencies are 
much better now. Thanks for continuing to develop and
sharing this cool looking OSC sequencer.

Andy



On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:20:49PM +0100, Christoph Kuhr wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I wanted to announce a cool OSC sequencer.
 
 IanniX
 www.IanniX.org
 
 until now i didnt hear anything of it here so i thought it could be
 interesting for many others out there...
 
 the community is still small and the software really powerful!
 
 if someone is already using it, i would be glad to share some experience!
 
 regads
 Ck
 
 
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Re: [PD] Mac OS X/PowerPC builds needed

2012-02-27 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig

On 02/27/12 20:44, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


IOhannes is also the central point of failure for a lot of Pd. There
is only so much on person can do, so I figure its good to spread the
work around :-)


which is true. so if greg (or somebody else) is donating anyhow (and 
they have spare G5's available, which we don't), then i think it's the 
more the merrier.


fgmasdr
IOhannes

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[PD] 0.43 oddities (Was Re: pdlua and tclpd: now embedded in Pd-extended 0.43)

2012-02-27 Thread András Murányi
Just a list of strange things I noticed running latest autobuild - on this
account where Pd was never used before.
(some of these are perhaps known or perfectly ok. Now that pd on my account
is practically out of order, I'm kind of a newbie when I start it up...)
- starts up with message: Cannot read GUI prefs file:
~/.config/pd-extended/recentfiles.conf
- maximum object loading depth 1000 reached message when object not found
- there is no .pdextended file. If I'm not wrong, it's created when you
first try to save preferences, but your preferences won't be saved.
- Before exit, if chose to save dirty new patch, an Application Error
window appears:

 Not connected to 'pd' process
 Not connected to 'pd' process
 while executing
 error Not connected to 'pd' process
 (procedure pdsend line 6)
 invoked from within
 pdsend pd watchdog
 (procedure pdtk_watchdog line 2)
 invoked from within
 pdtk_watchdog
 (after script)

- After quit i get this error every time:  pdsend errorname: error
writing sock6: broken pipe
- Default .pdextended has no 'path' list
- When using 'path' in .pdextended, many, seemingly pointless (?) errors
come up like this:

 WARNING: duplicate 'manual' library found!
   '/usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/cyclone/manual' is active
   '/usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/iemlib/manual' is duplicate

or like this kind:

 WARNING: duplicate 'pdlua' library found!
   '/usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/pdlua' is active
   '/usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pdlua' is duplicate

or like this:

 WARNING: duplicate 'oscx' library found!
   '/usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/oscx' is active
   '/usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/oscx' is duplicate



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Re: [PD] OSC Sequencer IanniX

2012-02-27 Thread Christoph Kuhr

Im no developer (yet?),
i just thought more poeple should know of it!



On 27.02.2012 22:31, Andy Farnell wrote:

I'm glad to see this is still alive.
It's quite old now right? A few years back I was very
excited by it and downloaded and spent too long trying to
get it to compile. I hope the build/dependencies are
much better now. Thanks for continuing to develop and
sharing this cool looking OSC sequencer.

Andy



On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:20:49PM +0100, Christoph Kuhr wrote:

Hi,

I wanted to announce a cool OSC sequencer.

IanniX
www.IanniX.org

until now i didnt hear anything of it here so i thought it could be
interesting for many others out there...

the community is still small and the software really powerful!

if someone is already using it, i would be glad to share some experience!

regads
Ck


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Re: [PD] Toonloop/Stop Motion in Pure Data

2012-02-27 Thread Guido Tamino
Hi Antonio,

I was playing around with the stop motion idea and made this patch. 
I'm not sure this is what you were looking for but it's a nice toy to play with.

Let me know how it goes.

Best,
Guido



pdLoop.pd
Description: Binary data


Il giorno 27/feb/2012, alle ore 19.44, Antonio Roberts ha scritto:

 I just had an idea. Is there any way of getting the contents of a
 folder shown in [playlist] to automatically update? You can scroll
 through and load the contents of [playlist] by using [seek $1( and a
 number. The only problem is in order to refresh the contents you have
 to navigate to another folder and then back again.
 
 If that's not possible is there an alternative option for browsing the
 contents of a folder?
 
 Ant
 
 On 27 February 2012 18:34, Antonio Roberts anto...@hellocatfood.com wrote:
 Thank! That's the exact problem I have. I can easily save a frame of
 an image, but to display them back immediately afterwards is what I
 want to do.
 
 Like some people I've had troubles with [pix_write] and [pix_record]
 and even then I don't think it'll solve the problem of loading them
 back into PD (it'll only save the files)
 
 As for getting Toonloop working on a mac, that's something you have to
 ask Alexandre Quessy ;-)
 
 Ant
 
 On 27 February 2012 18:20, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu 
 wrote:
 Seriously
 
 I think your issue will be viewing the recordings immediately, if that’s
 what you are after.
 
 Creating a stop motioner should be easy
 
 What everyone is saying is that NO, no –one has tried and you should look at
 pix_video’s help file and pix_write help file
 
 
 
 Kind regards
 
 
 
 pp
 
 
 
 
 
 From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of
 Pagano, Patrick
 Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 1:14 PM
 To: Antonio Roberts; chris clepper
 
 
 Cc: PD List
 Subject: Re: [PD] Toonloop/Stop Motion in Pure Data
 
 
 
 Create a patch that uses key [spacebar] to write a jpg to pix write from
 pix_video
 
 Also ask Alexander Quessy to get toonloop to work on mac again J
 
 
 
 pp
 
 
 
 From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of
 Antonio Roberts
 Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 1:11 PM
 To: chris clepper
 Cc: PD List
 Subject: Re: [PD] Toonloop/Stop Motion in Pure Data
 
 
 
 Got a example patch to explain further?
 
 On Feb 27, 2012 5:55 PM, chris clepper cgclep...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 pix_video into pix_write will do it.
 
 On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Antonio Roberts anto...@hellocatfood.com
 wrote:
 
 Thanks. Do you have any example patches to work from?
 
 Ant
 
 
 On 27 February 2012 16:45, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote:
 Le 2012-02-27 à 12:00:00, Antonio Roberts a écrit :
 
 
 Has anyone attempted to make something like Toonloop
 (http://toonloop.com/) in Pure Data? It's basically a live stop motion
 tool.
 
 
 The basics of it should be a quite small GF patch (or GEM) if you try to
 make one.
 
  __
 | Mathieu BOUCHARD - téléphone : +1.514.383.3801 - Montréal, QC
 
 
 
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Re: [PD] pix_openni crash Pd

2012-02-27 Thread Jack

Le 27/02/2012 15:51, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit :

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I use Ubuntu 11.04, Pd 0.42.6 and Gem 0.93.git fad1264.

upgrade Gem to at least 0.93.git 1482ffb1538

and do a complete rebuild of Gem.

fgmasd
IOhannes
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OK, i upgraded Gem to ver: 0.93.git f1a1841 and now i can render the 
scene without crash.
But, i can't see anything working there : I get a blue sphere where it 
is write 'gem' and a white rectangle in the top-left corner (even if i 
select 'rgb 1' in [pd properties]).
If i click on the message 'video_mode' in this subpatch, Pd crash. And 
if i click on 'bang', nothing happens in the console (there is no 
available modes).

I miss something ?
One comment : it is very strange to see two [gemhead] connected directly 
in [pix_openni]. Is there a meaning ?

Thanx for help.
++

Jack



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Re: [PD] Toonloop/Stop Motion in Pure Data

2012-02-27 Thread Antonio Roberts
Wow, that's exactly what I was looking for!

I'm gonna do a bit of a rewrite to it. I want to be able to send the
output to a separate monitor and do a preview on my desktop.

The idea is to then mix this with other videos, using some pix effects

Thanks so much dude!

Ant

On 27 February 2012 21:59, Guido Tamino guido.tam...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Antonio,

 I was playing around with the stop motion idea and made this patch.
 I'm not sure this is what you were looking for but it's a nice toy to play 
 with.

 Let me know how it goes.

 Best,
 Guido




 Il giorno 27/feb/2012, alle ore 19.44, Antonio Roberts ha scritto:

 I just had an idea. Is there any way of getting the contents of a
 folder shown in [playlist] to automatically update? You can scroll
 through and load the contents of [playlist] by using [seek $1( and a
 number. The only problem is in order to refresh the contents you have
 to navigate to another folder and then back again.

 If that's not possible is there an alternative option for browsing the
 contents of a folder?

 Ant

 On 27 February 2012 18:34, Antonio Roberts anto...@hellocatfood.com wrote:
 Thank! That's the exact problem I have. I can easily save a frame of
 an image, but to display them back immediately afterwards is what I
 want to do.

 Like some people I've had troubles with [pix_write] and [pix_record]
 and even then I don't think it'll solve the problem of loading them
 back into PD (it'll only save the files)

 As for getting Toonloop working on a mac, that's something you have to
 ask Alexandre Quessy ;-)

 Ant

 On 27 February 2012 18:20, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu 
 wrote:
 Seriously

 I think your issue will be viewing the recordings immediately, if that’s
 what you are after.

 Creating a stop motioner should be easy

 What everyone is saying is that NO, no –one has tried and you should look 
 at
 pix_video’s help file and pix_write help file



 Kind regards



 pp





 From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of
 Pagano, Patrick
 Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 1:14 PM
 To: Antonio Roberts; chris clepper


 Cc: PD List
 Subject: Re: [PD] Toonloop/Stop Motion in Pure Data



 Create a patch that uses key [spacebar] to write a jpg to pix write from
 pix_video

 Also ask Alexander Quessy to get toonloop to work on mac again J



 pp



 From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of
 Antonio Roberts
 Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 1:11 PM
 To: chris clepper
 Cc: PD List
 Subject: Re: [PD] Toonloop/Stop Motion in Pure Data



 Got a example patch to explain further?

 On Feb 27, 2012 5:55 PM, chris clepper cgclep...@gmail.com wrote:

 pix_video into pix_write will do it.

 On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Antonio Roberts 
 anto...@hellocatfood.com
 wrote:

 Thanks. Do you have any example patches to work from?

 Ant


 On 27 February 2012 16:45, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote:
 Le 2012-02-27 à 12:00:00, Antonio Roberts a écrit :


 Has anyone attempted to make something like Toonloop
 (http://toonloop.com/) in Pure Data? It's basically a live stop motion
 tool.


 The basics of it should be a quite small GF patch (or GEM) if you try to
 make one.

  __
 | Mathieu BOUCHARD - téléphone : +1.514.383.3801 - Montréal, QC



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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] new editing features of Pd-extended 0.43, now in beta!

2012-02-27 Thread Jonathan Wilkes




- Original Message -
 From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 To: pd-announce pd-annou...@iem.at
 Cc: 
 Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 3:02 PM
 Subject: [PD] [PD-announce] new editing features of Pd-extended 0.43, now in 
 beta!
 
 [...]
 
 • Autotips gives you tips about what an object does, what its inlet expects, 
 and 
 what comes out of the outlets.

You can also make manual tips that are basically like notifications to a canvas:

[tgl]
|
[tip $1 Hello World(
|
[send thisCanvas]

[namecanvas thisCanvas]

The tip will try to stay out of the way of the mouse.  This is a nice tool to 
design 
tutorials that can dynamically give tips as the user clicks on stuff, for 
example.  
You can also generate the tips from a gui plugin-- might be interesting to make 
a 
patching clock that sends a timed message to the canvas that currently has 
focus: Hey, you've been patching for 20 minutes straight... take a break!

-Jonathan


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Re: [PD] OSC Sequencer IanniX

2012-02-27 Thread Husk 00
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:48 PM, Christoph Kuhr christoph.k...@web.dewrote:

 Im no developer (yet?),
 i just thought more poeple should know of it!





It's really a cool tool!
I have been using it during my interaction design workshop with good
feedback from people.
I never could use linux version (it crash after loading) but used windows
version through wine with no problem.
I suggest people to look at it.
cheers
husk



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Re: [PD] pix_openni crash Pd

2012-02-27 Thread Jack

Le 27/02/2012 23:00, Jack a écrit :

Le 27/02/2012 15:51, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit :

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On 2012-02-27 15:20, Jack wrote:


I use Ubuntu 11.04, Pd 0.42.6 and Gem 0.93.git fad1264.

upgrade Gem to at least 0.93.git 1482ffb1538

and do a complete rebuild of Gem.

fgmasd
IOhannes
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OK, i upgraded Gem to ver: 0.93.git f1a1841 and now i can render the 
scene without crash.
But, i can't see anything working there : I get a blue sphere where it 
is write 'gem' and a white rectangle in the top-left corner (even if i 
select 'rgb 1' in [pd properties]).
If i click on the message 'video_mode' in this subpatch, Pd crash. And 
if i click on 'bang', nothing happens in the console (there is no 
available modes).


Here the output with valgrind :

==16138== HEAP SUMMARY:
==16138== in use at exit: 10,269,587 bytes in 14,507 blocks
==16138==   total heap usage: 44,548 allocs, 30,041 frees, 46,723,357 
bytes allocated

==16138==
==16138== LEAK SUMMARY:
==16138==definitely lost: 14,663 bytes in 50 blocks
==16138==indirectly lost: 8,291 bytes in 488 blocks
==16138==  possibly lost: 1,525 bytes in 56 blocks
==16138==still reachable: 10,245,108 bytes in 13,913 blocks
==16138== suppressed: 0 bytes in 0 blocks
==16138== Rerun with --leak-check=full to see details of leaked memory
==16138==
==16138== For counts of detected and suppressed errors, rerun with: -v
==16138== ERROR SUMMARY: 0 errors from 0 contexts (suppressed: 482 from 11)
==16139==
==16139== HEAP SUMMARY:
==16139== in use at exit: 10,269,587 bytes in 14,507 blocks
==16139==   total heap usage: 44,548 allocs, 30,041 frees, 46,723,357 
bytes allocated

==16139==
==16139== LEAK SUMMARY:
==16139==definitely lost: 14,663 bytes in 50 blocks
==16139==indirectly lost: 8,291 bytes in 488 blocks
==16139==  possibly lost: 1,525 bytes in 56 blocks
==16139==still reachable: 10,245,108 bytes in 13,913 blocks
==16139== suppressed: 0 bytes in 0 blocks
==16139== Rerun with --leak-check=full to see details of leaked memory
==16139==
==16139== For counts of detected and suppressed errors, rerun with: -v
==16139== ERROR SUMMARY: 0 errors from 0 contexts (suppressed: 482 from 11)
==16140==
==16140== HEAP SUMMARY:
==16140== in use at exit: 10,269,587 bytes in 14,507 blocks
==16140==   total heap usage: 44,548 allocs, 30,041 frees, 46,723,357 
bytes allocated

==16140==
==16140== LEAK SUMMARY:
==16140==definitely lost: 14,663 bytes in 50 blocks
==16140==indirectly lost: 8,291 bytes in 488 blocks
==16140==  possibly lost: 1,525 bytes in 56 blocks
==16140==still reachable: 10,245,108 bytes in 13,913 blocks
==16140== suppressed: 0 bytes in 0 blocks
==16140== Rerun with --leak-check=full to see details of leaked memory
==16140==
==16140== For counts of detected and suppressed errors, rerun with: -v
==16140== ERROR SUMMARY: 0 errors from 0 contexts (suppressed: 482 from 11)
==16141==
==16141== HEAP SUMMARY:
==16141== in use at exit: 10,269,587 bytes in 14,507 blocks
==16141==   total heap usage: 44,548 allocs, 30,041 frees, 46,723,357 
bytes allocated

==16141==
==16141== LEAK SUMMARY:
==16141==definitely lost: 14,663 bytes in 50 blocks
==16141==indirectly lost: 8,291 bytes in 488 blocks
==16141==  possibly lost: 1,525 bytes in 56 blocks
==16141==still reachable: 10,245,108 bytes in 13,913 blocks
==16141== suppressed: 0 bytes in 0 blocks
==16141== Rerun with --leak-check=full to see details of leaked memory
==16141==
==16141== For counts of detected and suppressed errors, rerun with: -v
==16141== ERROR SUMMARY: 0 errors from 0 contexts (suppressed: 482 from 11)
==16122== Invalid read of size 4
==16122==at 0xA6D106A: xnSetMapOutputMode (in /usr/lib/libOpenNI.so)
==16122==by 0xA677432: pix_openni::VideoModeMess(int, _atom*) 
(XnCppWrapper.h:2717)

==16122==by 0x41EF: ???
==16122==  Address 0x0 is not stack'd, malloc'd or (recently) free'd
==16122==
==16122==
==16122== Process terminating with default action of signal 11 (SIGSEGV)
==16122==  Access not within mapped region at address 0x0
==16122==at 0xA6D106A: xnSetMapOutputMode (in /usr/lib/libOpenNI.so)
==16122==by 0xA677432: pix_openni::VideoModeMess(int, _atom*) 
(XnCppWrapper.h:2717)

==16122==by 0x41EF: ???
==16122==  If you believe this happened as a result of a stack
==16122==  overflow in your program's main thread (unlikely but
==16122==  possible), you can try to increase the size of the
==16122==  main thread stack using the 

[PD] [OT] Music Notation in linux

2012-02-27 Thread BanjoBob Faraday

Hey Guys

Sorry if this is on the wrong list, but I'm looking for an open source package 
to prepare some choral sheet music. So far I've found musescore, note edit and 
lilypond, but I'm not sure if I want to use any of them. Has written any sheet 
music in linux? Any advice on what to use? 

Lilypond looks interesting, edited in plain text, then prepares a score as an 
image. It's a command-line scoring package!!! But I'm not sure if I want to 
learn to read the text file, which would be needed to write music in it. 

Anyway, I'm willing to listen to any advice on this. 

Andrew
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Re: [PD] [OT] Music Notation in linux

2012-02-27 Thread Jonathan Wilkes

 From: BanjoBob Faraday jbtur...@hotmail.com
To: pd-list@iem.at 
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 5:48 PM
Subject: [PD] [OT] Music Notation in linux
 

 
Hey Guys

Sorry if this is on the wrong list, but I'm looking for an open source package 
to prepare some choral sheet music. So far I've found musescore, note edit and 
lilypond, but I'm not sure if I want to use any of them. Has written any sheet 
music in linux? Any advice on what to use? 

Lilypond looks interesting, edited in plain text, then prepares a score as an 
image. It's a command-line scoring package!!! But I'm not sure if I want to 
learn to read the text file, which would be needed to write music in it. 

Anyway, I'm willing to listen to any advice on this. 


I would suggest Lilypond with either Lilypondtool or Frescobaldi to enter the 
music:
http://lilypond.org/easier-editing.html


I've used Lilypondtool and it has a nice wizard so that you can get boilerplate 
for your choral score and then just 

focus on entering the notes.  (Also it let's you see some of the commands and 
tweaks in dropdown lists so you don't 

have to constantly refer to the notation guide to make simple tweaks.)

-Jonathan



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Re: [PD] [OT] Music Notation in linux

2012-02-27 Thread Jonghyun Kim
I think MuseScore is the alternative but it's so buggy yet...

Lilypondtool in JEdit is also good.

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 11:48 PM, BanjoBob Faraday jbtur...@hotmail.comwrote:

  Hey Guys

 Sorry if this is on the wrong list, but I'm looking for an open source
 package to prepare some choral sheet music. So far I've found musescore,
 note edit and lilypond, but I'm not sure if I want to use any of them. Has
 written any sheet music in linux? Any advice on what to use?

 Lilypond looks interesting, edited in plain text, then prepares a score as
 an image. It's a command-line scoring package!!! But I'm not sure if I want
 to learn to read the text file, which would be needed to write music in it.

 Anyway, I'm willing to listen to any advice on this.

 Andrew

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Re: [PD] choosing your language at launch WAS: Japanese Pure Data book is out now.

2012-02-27 Thread András Murányi
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 05:57, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:

  On 02/25/2012 11:59 AM, András Murányi wrote:



 On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 22:56, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote:


 I was updating pd-extended.git, so I threw in the new Japanese
 translation :-).  I'll be sure to update it one last time before the
 final release, so you can test it in a real build.

 I'm all for choice with the language of the app, but it seems to me that
 is something that the OS should handle.  So anyone who set their system
 language to English will get Pd-extended in English.  For those who want
 some mix of languages, then there is no standard technique that I know
 of, and how you do it varies on each OS.  If someone wants to code this
 for Pd-extended, patches are welcome.


 If you want the *whole* app to change language, I'm pretty sure it will
 need to be restarted. Then I guess an equivalent of export LANG can be
 issued from tcl (and/or C?) at startup. (Could someone with the knowledge
 confirm/correct this plz?)
 If it's enough to change the translatable strings' language, we already
 have the _ function in tcl. I have no idea how it goes on the C side.
 Then I guess instead of restarting, it's possible to redraw the GUI (?).
 I'd be happy to code into this when I know more.

 András



 What I meant by a mix of languages is a mix of apps on a given system
 running in different languages, i.e. Thunderbird in Japanese, Pd in
 English.  Perhaps this could be handled by a plugin?  I don't know all the
 possible ways of getting Tcl to change the language, but I do know that
 'export LANG=ja' works.

 .hc


...what I understood was a way to change the UI language from within pd,
like a dropdown menu in preferences. Is that what you meant?

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Re: [PD] [OT] Music Notation in linux

2012-02-27 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Whoa, Musescore looks way better than I thought it would!  What kinds of bugs 
does 1.1 have?

Anyone know how its feature set compares to Lilypond?  Some short comments on 
their forum 

said the output was similar (because it uses the Feta font from Lilypond) but 
I'd love to see a 

real review of how it handles some of the finer points of music notation.

-Jonathan


 From: Jonghyun Kim agitato...@gmail.com
To: pd-list@iem.at 
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: [PD] [OT] Music Notation in linux
 

I think MuseScore is the alternative but it's so buggy yet...


Lilypondtool in JEdit is also good.

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 11:48 PM, BanjoBob Faraday jbtur...@hotmail.com 
wrote:

Hey Guys

Sorry if this is on the wrong list, but I'm looking for an open source 
package to prepare some choral sheet music. So far I've found musescore, note 
edit and lilypond, but I'm not sure if I want to use any of them. Has written 
any sheet music in linux? Any advice on what to use? 

Lilypond looks interesting, edited in plain text, then prepares a score as an 
image. It's a command-line scoring package!!! But I'm not sure if I want to 
learn to read the text file, which would be needed to write music in it. 

Anyway, I'm willing to listen to any advice on this. 

Andrew

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Re: [PD] 0.43 oddities (Was Re: pdlua and tclpd: now embedded in Pd-extended 0.43)

2012-02-27 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012, at 22:39, András Murányi wrote:
 Just a list of strange things I noticed running latest autobuild - on
 this
 account where Pd was never used before.
 (some of these are perhaps known or perfectly ok. Now that pd on my
 account
 is practically out of order, I'm kind of a newbie when I start it up...)
 - starts up with message: Cannot read GUI prefs file:
 ~/.config/pd-extended/recentfiles.conf

That should be a debug message rather than an error, I'll change that.

 - maximum object loading depth 1000 reached message when object not
 found

What object is it trying to create when it does that?  By the way, there
is a nice new feature, you can do File - Save As.. on the Pd window,
and it'll save the entire Pd window contents.  That's useful for
including in emails like this :)

 - there is no .pdextended file. If I'm not wrong, it's created when you
 first try to save preferences, but your preferences won't be saved.

Pd-extended will only create one when you Save All Settings in the
Audio Settings.

 - Before exit, if chose to save dirty new patch, an Application Error
 window appears:
 
  Not connected to 'pd' process
  Not connected to 'pd' process
  while executing
  error Not connected to 'pd' process
  (procedure pdsend line 6)
  invoked from within
  pdsend pd watchdog
  (procedure pdtk_watchdog line 2)
  invoked from within
  pdtk_watchdog
  (after script)
 
 - After quit i get this error every time:  pdsend errorname: error
 writing sock6: broken pipe

That's an odd one, sounds like your 'pd' process is dying.  Any ideas
why?

 - Default .pdextended has no 'path' list

Yup, use the standard locations[1] or the new [path] object.
http://puredata.info/docs/faq/how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files

 - When using 'path' in .pdextended, many, seemingly pointless (?) errors
 come up like this:

I'm no longer supporting setting the path and startup libs via the
preferences.  Anyone else is welcome to take that on.

.hc 

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pdlua and tclpd: now embedded in Pd-extended 0.43

2012-02-27 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012, at 16:07, m.e.grimm wrote:
  pdlua and tclpd.
 
 clll..
 
   Pd: pyext for Python
 
 any chance for this in extended? there was some issue on the list
 about this a while ago no? but i have forgot. unless im just having a
 flashback.

So far, no one ever wanted to get flext building everywhere.  Its just a
matter of someone doing the work:

http://puredata.info/docs/developer/GettingIntoPdextended

.hc

 On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 8:15 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 wrote:
 
  There are two new, easy ways to write objects for Pd: tclpd by Federico 
  Ferri and pdlua by Claude Heiland-Allen, Frank Barknecht and Martin Peach.  
  Both are now included in Pd-extended 0.43 and are automatically loaded at 
  startup.  That means you can write a script in Lua or Tcl and have that 
  script be a true object in Pd.  Both pdlua and tclpd provide the large 
  majority of the Pd externals API, and you can even write GUI objects using 
  tclpd.
 
  Tcl and Lua both excel at handling strings, one thing that Pd is not the 
  best at, so if you have a project that needs to parse or manage a lot of 
  strings, then you have a new approach.
 
  There are some other ways of using other languages to write objects for Pd: 
  pyext for Python and pdj for Java.  These two are different in a key way 
  than pdlua and tclpd.  pyext and pdj allow you to load scripts into an 
  object called [pyext] or [pdj].   tclpd and pdlua let you create full Pd 
  objects that are completely transparent to the user.  You create an object 
  written in tclpd or pdlua just like any other Pd object, and those objects 
  can have their own help patch too.
 
  Both pdlua and tclpd come with a lot of examples, go to the Help Browser 
  and find them in the list of libraries there.  I also started writing the 
  'tclfile' library to bring the Tcl file API to Pd:
 
  http://puredata.info/downloads/tclfile
 
  .hc
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Re: [PD] pix_openni crash Pd

2012-02-27 Thread Matthias Kronlachner

Am 28.02.12 00:00, schrieb Jack:

Le 27/02/2012 15:51, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit :

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I use Ubuntu 11.04, Pd 0.42.6 and Gem 0.93.git fad1264.

upgrade Gem to at least 0.93.git 1482ffb1538

and do a complete rebuild of Gem.

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OK, i upgraded Gem to ver: 0.93.git f1a1841 and now i can render the 
scene without crash.
But, i can't see anything working there : I get a blue sphere where it 
is write 'gem' and a white rectangle in the top-left corner (even if i 
select 'rgb 1' in [pd properties]).
If i click on the message 'video_mode' in this subpatch, Pd crash. And 
if i click on 'bang', nothing happens in the console (there is no 
available modes).

I miss something ?
One comment : it is very strange to see two [gemhead] connected 
directly in [pix_openni]. Is there a meaning ?

Thanx for help.
++

Jack

hi!

did you check if the examples included in OpenNI and Nite work? (eg. 
Sample-NiSimpleViewer, Sample-SceneAnalysis)

they should be somewhere in the Samples/Bin folder.
if they don't work, pix_openni won't work.

ok the crash with video_mode and depth_mode msg is fixed now. but it 
happend only if image or depth was not started. i was a little bit lazy 
testing everything without working kinect plugged in.
if you send a [bang( it now writes an error message to the console if no 
device is available.



so i think you have a problem with your openni/sensor kinect installation.
did you install sensor kinect? this is the driver which allows openni to 
access the kinect sensor. (https://github.com/avin2/SensorKinect)
you also need the unstable release of OpenNI (- see install 
instructions from SensorKinect)



the two gemheads have a meaning - of course.
pix_openni outputs two separated pixes - one rgb image from the camera 
(left gemhead and outlet) and one depth image in various formats from 
the depthsensor (right gemhead and outlet).
actually it's more implementation side - it could be realized with one 
gemhead as well. but i did it this way and for me it's logical.
you can also make it with one gemhead and a [t a a] if it looks better 
for you:


[gemhead]
[t a a]
| |
[pix_openni]


matthias






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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] libpd, the book!

2012-02-27 Thread Seiichiro MATSUMURA
Great work!
I should get it.

Cheers,

Sei Matsumura

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2012年2月24日10:42 Peter Brinkmann peter.brinkm...@googlemail.com:
 Hi,
 I'm happy to announce the release of my book on mobile audio
 development with libpd:
 http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920022503.do

 The ebook version is available now; printed copies will be available
 from amazon.com next week.
 Cheers,
 Peter

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