Re: [PD] execution order for ~ objects that output messages

2008-09-26 Thread hard off
an easy way might be to put a [bang~] in a subpatch, so that it is triggered after the [env~ ] objects, and then connect each [env~] to the right inlet of a [f ]...then you can bang the floats with [t b b] from the [bang~] ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list

Re: [PD] execution order for ~ objects that output messages

2008-09-26 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
hard off wrote: an easy way might be to put a [bang~] in a subpatch, so that it is triggered after the [env~ ] objects, and then connect each [env~] to the right inlet of a [f ]...then you can bang the floats with [t b b] from the [bang~] well, but the [bang~] will have the same problem: it

Re: [PD] execution order for ~ objects that output messages

2008-09-26 Thread Damian Stewart
IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: but of course you proposal to use another source for synching the outputs is the way to go. yeah, i kind of realised this one as well... hm. are all the [~] objects going to trigger before or after all the message-rate objects? is that much defined? or could there

Re: [PD] execution order for ~ objects that output messages

2008-09-26 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
Damian Stewart wrote: hm. are all the [~] objects going to trigger before or after all the message-rate objects? is that much defined? or could there be interleaved [~] and message-rate object firings? eg an [env~] fires before a [* ] which is then followed by another [env~]? well, Pd's

Re: [PD] execution order for ~ objects that output messages

2008-09-26 Thread Damian Stewart
IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: now, signal-to-message objects _should_ accept this scheduling, by *not* sending messages in the dsp callback, but rather schedule them to the next tick (via a [delay 0]) afaik all _internal_ objects adhere to this. hm, again.. so, at what point do these invisible

Re: [PD] execution order for ~ objects that output messages

2008-09-26 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
Damian Stewart wrote: IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: now, signal-to-message objects _should_ accept this scheduling, by *not* sending messages in the dsp callback, but rather schedule them to the next tick (via a [delay 0]) afaik all _internal_ objects adhere to this. hm, again.. so, at what

Re: [PD] execution order for ~ objects that output messages

2008-09-26 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
Damian Stewart wrote: IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: now, signal-to-message objects _should_ accept this scheduling, by *not* sending messages in the dsp callback, but rather schedule them to the next tick (via a [delay 0]) afaik all _internal_ objects adhere to this. hm, again.. so, at what

Re: [PD] execution order for ~ objects that output messages

2008-09-26 Thread Claude Heiland-Allen
Damian Stewart wrote: IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: now, signal-to-message objects _should_ accept this scheduling, by *not* sending messages in the dsp callback, but rather schedule them to the next tick (via a [delay 0]) afaik all _internal_ objects adhere to this. hm, again.. so, at what

[PD] execution order for ~ objects that output messages

2008-09-25 Thread Damian Stewart
what's the order of execution for signal~ objects that output messages (eg env~)? eg: [...~] | [env~] | [print 1] [...~] | [env~] | [print 2] which will get printed first? cheers d -- damian stewart | skype: damiansnz | [EMAIL PROTECTED] frey | live art with machines |

Re: [PD] execution order for ~ objects that output messages

2008-09-25 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Damian Stewart wrote: what's the order of execution for signal~ objects that output messages (eg env~)? eg: [...~] | [env~] | [print 1] [...~] | [env~] | [print 2] which will get printed first? depends on the order of execution in the signal objects. thus it is usually

Re: [PD] execution order for ~ objects that output messages

2008-09-25 Thread Claude Heiland-Allen
Damian Stewart wrote: what's the order of execution for signal~ objects that output messages (eg env~)? which will get printed first? It's undefined, unless you define it with subpatches with signal cords between them (which don't need to carry meaningful data, just the presence of a signal

Re: [PD] execution order for ~ objects that output messages

2008-09-25 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Claude Heiland-Allen hat gesagt: // Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: this is documented somewhere, i think in a flanger example... It's in doc/3.audio.examples/G05.execution.order.pd and more verbose in The Book Every Pd User Can Learn A Lot Of (tm):

Re: [PD] execution order for ~ objects that output messages

2008-09-25 Thread Thomas Grill
Am 25.09.2008 um 14:22 schrieb IOhannes m zmoelnig: unless you use order-forcing. ... which i have never heard of... do you mind to elaborate? thanks, gr~~~ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -

Re: [PD] execution order for ~ objects that output messages

2008-09-25 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Thomas Grill wrote: Am 25.09.2008 um 14:22 schrieb IOhannes m zmoelnig: unless you use order-forcing. ... which i have never heard of... do you mind to elaborate? i'm sure you did. it's the same technique claude had in mind and which is described in 3.audio.examples/G05.execution.order.pd

Re: [PD] execution order for ~ objects that output messages

2008-09-25 Thread Thomas Grill
Am 25.09.2008 um 15:22 schrieb IOhannes m zmoelnig: Thomas Grill wrote: Am 25.09.2008 um 14:22 schrieb IOhannes m zmoelnig: unless you use order-forcing. ... which i have never heard of... do you mind to elaborate? i'm sure you did. it's the same technique claude had in mind and which is