Re: [PD] PD on retina display
Forgot to mention that, while not fixing the retina problem, changing the tk scaling value doesn't break vanilla PD like it does for extended. jm Jean-Michel Dumas http://www.jmdumas.org http://magasin.bandcamp.com On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Jean-Michel Dumas jm.du...@gmail.comwrote: So I tried both fixes.. to no effect whatsoever. Also tried to play with tk scaling, but setting it to anything else than 1 breaks my PD (no canvas will load except for the main pd window). Commenting it out seems pretty harmless though (i.e. doesn't change anything on osx). Tried a couple of other plist tweaks (aliasing, font size, etc..), but nothing does it. Alas, the quest for beauty continues.. jm Jean-Michel Dumas http://www.jmdumas.org http://magasin.bandcamp.com On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Jean-Michel Dumas jm.du...@gmail.comwrote: I'll be away from the retina Mac for a couple of days but I'll make sure to test both possible fixes (Miller's and Dan's) as soon as I get back. Cheers and thanks, Jm -- envoyé par un androïde -- On Aug 21, 2013 5:21 PM, Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.com wrote: Also, apparently it's possible to run retina resolutions on non retina hardware for testing: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12124576/how-to-simulate-a-retina-display-hidpi-mode-in-mac-os-x-10-8-mountain-lion-on/13596261#13596261 That should work for testing Pd + retina without a new machine (hint hint Jonathan :D) On Aug 21, 2013, at 5:15 PM, Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.com wrote: A quick google search gives me this: Is it possible to have git gui / gitk look good on a retina Macbook Pro?http://superuser.com/questions/620824/is-it-possible-to-have-git-gui-gitk-look-good-on-a-retina-macbook-pro and this http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.tcl.mac/7164. It seems there is a plist key for Retina-able apps. Can you try adding the following to /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Info.plist: keyNSHighResolutionCapable/key true/ On Aug 21, 2013, at 4:30 PM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: *From: *Jean-Michel Dumas jm.du...@gmail.com *Subject: **Re: [PD] PD on retina display* *Date: *August 21, 2013 4:29:43 PM EDT *To: *IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at *Cc: *PDlist pd-list@iem.at lol I knew someone would post something like that and i'm aware of ways to do that (though not sed, since you have to be a wizard and/or a machine to use that). i'm still keeping that line, could be handy sometime, thanks. i'm working between multiple machines from a centralized patch repository, which means fixing the look of all the patches for one will render them weird looking on the others. my main patching machine is running Ubuntu and everything looks fine on it. the gig machine I need stuff to look good on is a new macbook, hence the retina display. anyway, the fact remains that all dialogs and menu bars and titles stay ugly even if I can partially fix the patches by reducing font size. i'm guessing it's XQuartz's fault somehow, but I know nothing about it or how to change the display mode. jm Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.com robotcowboy.com Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.com robotcowboy.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD on retina display
I realized after writing about canvas scaling that ir wasn't the eight thing - there needs to be a proper 'zoom' but it might be hard to make it work well. Miller On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 11:09:05AM -0400, Jean-Michel Dumas wrote: Forgot to mention that, while not fixing the retina problem, changing the tk scaling value doesn't break vanilla PD like it does for extended. jm Jean-Michel Dumas http://www.jmdumas.org http://magasin.bandcamp.com On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Jean-Michel Dumas jm.du...@gmail.comwrote: So I tried both fixes.. to no effect whatsoever. Also tried to play with tk scaling, but setting it to anything else than 1 breaks my PD (no canvas will load except for the main pd window). Commenting it out seems pretty harmless though (i.e. doesn't change anything on osx). Tried a couple of other plist tweaks (aliasing, font size, etc..), but nothing does it. Alas, the quest for beauty continues.. jm Jean-Michel Dumas http://www.jmdumas.org http://magasin.bandcamp.com On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Jean-Michel Dumas jm.du...@gmail.comwrote: I'll be away from the retina Mac for a couple of days but I'll make sure to test both possible fixes (Miller's and Dan's) as soon as I get back. Cheers and thanks, Jm -- envoyé par un androïde -- On Aug 21, 2013 5:21 PM, Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.com wrote: Also, apparently it's possible to run retina resolutions on non retina hardware for testing: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12124576/how-to-simulate-a-retina-display-hidpi-mode-in-mac-os-x-10-8-mountain-lion-on/13596261#13596261 That should work for testing Pd + retina without a new machine (hint hint Jonathan :D) On Aug 21, 2013, at 5:15 PM, Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.com wrote: A quick google search gives me this: Is it possible to have git gui / gitk look good on a retina Macbook Pro?http://superuser.com/questions/620824/is-it-possible-to-have-git-gui-gitk-look-good-on-a-retina-macbook-pro and this http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.tcl.mac/7164. It seems there is a plist key for Retina-able apps. Can you try adding the following to /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Info.plist: keyNSHighResolutionCapable/key true/ On Aug 21, 2013, at 4:30 PM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: *From: *Jean-Michel Dumas jm.du...@gmail.com *Subject: **Re: [PD] PD on retina display* *Date: *August 21, 2013 4:29:43 PM EDT *To: *IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at *Cc: *PDlist pd-list@iem.at lol I knew someone would post something like that and i'm aware of ways to do that (though not sed, since you have to be a wizard and/or a machine to use that). i'm still keeping that line, could be handy sometime, thanks. i'm working between multiple machines from a centralized patch repository, which means fixing the look of all the patches for one will render them weird looking on the others. my main patching machine is running Ubuntu and everything looks fine on it. the gig machine I need stuff to look good on is a new macbook, hence the retina display. anyway, the fact remains that all dialogs and menu bars and titles stay ugly even if I can partially fix the patches by reducing font size. i'm guessing it's XQuartz's fault somehow, but I know nothing about it or how to change the display mode. jm Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.com robotcowboy.com Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.com robotcowboy.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD on retina display
So I tried both fixes.. to no effect whatsoever. Also tried to play with tk scaling, but setting it to anything else than 1 breaks my PD (no canvas will load except for the main pd window). Commenting it out seems pretty harmless though (i.e. doesn't change anything on osx). Tried a couple of other plist tweaks (aliasing, font size, etc..), but nothing does it. Alas, the quest for beauty continues.. jm Jean-Michel Dumas http://www.jmdumas.org http://magasin.bandcamp.com On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Jean-Michel Dumas jm.du...@gmail.comwrote: I'll be away from the retina Mac for a couple of days but I'll make sure to test both possible fixes (Miller's and Dan's) as soon as I get back. Cheers and thanks, Jm -- envoyé par un androïde -- On Aug 21, 2013 5:21 PM, Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.com wrote: Also, apparently it's possible to run retina resolutions on non retina hardware for testing: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12124576/how-to-simulate-a-retina-display-hidpi-mode-in-mac-os-x-10-8-mountain-lion-on/13596261#13596261 That should work for testing Pd + retina without a new machine (hint hint Jonathan :D) On Aug 21, 2013, at 5:15 PM, Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.com wrote: A quick google search gives me this: Is it possible to have git gui / gitk look good on a retina Macbook Pro?http://superuser.com/questions/620824/is-it-possible-to-have-git-gui-gitk-look-good-on-a-retina-macbook-pro and this http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.tcl.mac/7164. It seems there is a plist key for Retina-able apps. Can you try adding the following to /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Info.plist: keyNSHighResolutionCapable/key true/ On Aug 21, 2013, at 4:30 PM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: *From: *Jean-Michel Dumas jm.du...@gmail.com *Subject: **Re: [PD] PD on retina display* *Date: *August 21, 2013 4:29:43 PM EDT *To: *IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at *Cc: *PDlist pd-list@iem.at lol I knew someone would post something like that and i'm aware of ways to do that (though not sed, since you have to be a wizard and/or a machine to use that). i'm still keeping that line, could be handy sometime, thanks. i'm working between multiple machines from a centralized patch repository, which means fixing the look of all the patches for one will render them weird looking on the others. my main patching machine is running Ubuntu and everything looks fine on it. the gig machine I need stuff to look good on is a new macbook, hence the retina display. anyway, the fact remains that all dialogs and menu bars and titles stay ugly even if I can partially fix the patches by reducing font size. i'm guessing it's XQuartz's fault somehow, but I know nothing about it or how to change the display mode. jm Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.com robotcowboy.com Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.com robotcowboy.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD on retina display
Hi Jonathan, It stays the same with your build, but that pref pane of yours is pretty neat! Some more info for those who care: - If I load a pre-retina patch and copy it in a new patcher it fixes things except for labels - If I start a new patch, all is good in the patch even labels (the windowing system is still wrong though, i.e. title bar, dialogs, etc) - If I load a pre-retina patch and create new objects in it, the new objects look wrong I know this is about aesthetics and thus pretty low on the PD dev scale, but everything else is so nice on the retina.. jm Jean-Michel Dumas http://www.jmdumas.org http://magasin.bandcamp.com On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: On 08/20/2013 03:30 PM, Jean-Michel Dumas wrote: Hi all, Is there a fix to restore a decent look for patches on a retina display? Right now they all open in X11 (XQuartz on 10.8 apparently) using the pixel doubled mode and well, look like it's 1995 all over again. I searched the list for retina in the subject line but nothing showed up. I've got a mac build that demo's my revision of the Preferences Dialog which (I think) uses the newer API: http://puredata.info/Members/jancsika/Pd-with-prefs-0.43.zip/view?searchterm=pd%20with%20prefs Can you dl and tell me if it makes a difference? If not, I can also try building it with tk 8.6 which supposedly has improved mac support. Thanks, Jonathan Thanks for any info, jm Jean-Michel Dumas http://www.jmdumas.org http://magasin.bandcamp.com ___pd-l...@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD on retina display
On 08/21/2013 11:14 AM, Jean-Michel Dumas wrote: Hi Jonathan, It stays the same with your build, but that pref pane of yours is pretty neat! Some more info for those who care: - If I load a pre-retina patch and copy it in a new patcher it fixes things except for labels and what if you save it and then load the saved post-retina patch? I can't imagine anything in the source file that would flag a patch wrt this. - If I start a new patch, all is good in the patch even labels (the windowing system is still wrong though, i.e. title bar, dialogs, etc) - If I load a pre-retina patch and create new objects in it, the new objects look wrong I know this is about aesthetics and thus pretty low on the PD dev scale, but everything else is so nice on the retina.. Maybe take some screenshots of the main window, loading an old patch, loading a new patch, etc. Then post the screenshots somewhere on the web and put the links in this thread. Unfortunately I don't have a retina display. -Jonathan jm Jean-Michel Dumas http://www.jmdumas.org http://magasin.bandcamp.com On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com mailto:jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: On 08/20/2013 03:30 PM, Jean-Michel Dumas wrote: Hi all, Is there a fix to restore a decent look for patches on a retina display? Right now they all open in X11 (XQuartz on 10.8 apparently) using the pixel doubled mode and well, look like it's 1995 all over again. I searched the list for retina in the subject line but nothing showed up. I've got a mac build that demo's my revision of the Preferences Dialog which (I think) uses the newer API: http://puredata.info/Members/jancsika/Pd-with-prefs-0.43.zip/view?searchterm=pd%20with%20prefs Can you dl and tell me if it makes a difference? If not, I can also try building it with tk 8.6 which supposedly has improved mac support. Thanks, Jonathan Thanks for any info, jm Jean-Michel Dumas http://www.jmdumas.org http://magasin.bandcamp.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD on retina display
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.comwrote: On 08/21/2013 11:14 AM, Jean-Michel Dumas wrote: Hi Jonathan, It stays the same with your build, but that pref pane of yours is pretty neat! Some more info for those who care: - If I load a pre-retina patch and copy it in a new patcher it fixes things except for labels and what if you save it and then load the saved post-retina patch? I can't imagine anything in the source file that would flag a patch wrt this. as expected, the newly saved patch is fine when reopening it. - If I start a new patch, all is good in the patch even labels (the windowing system is still wrong though, i.e. title bar, dialogs, etc) - If I load a pre-retina patch and create new objects in it, the new objects look wrong I know this is about aesthetics and thus pretty low on the PD dev scale, but everything else is so nice on the retina.. Maybe take some screenshots of the main window, loading an old patch, loading a new patch, etc. Then post the screenshots somewhere on the web and put the links in this thread. Unfortunately I don't have a retina display. here's a screenshot of an opened patch versus the same patch pasted in a new patcher: http://i.imgur.com/J3U4z6w.png cheers, jm -Jonathan jm Jean-Michel Dumas http://www.jmdumas.org http://magasin.bandcamp.com On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.comwrote: On 08/20/2013 03:30 PM, Jean-Michel Dumas wrote: Hi all, Is there a fix to restore a decent look for patches on a retina display? Right now they all open in X11 (XQuartz on 10.8 apparently) using the pixel doubled mode and well, look like it's 1995 all over again. I searched the list for retina in the subject line but nothing showed up. I've got a mac build that demo's my revision of the Preferences Dialog which (I think) uses the newer API: http://puredata.info/Members/jancsika/Pd-with-prefs-0.43.zip/view?searchterm=pd%20with%20prefs Can you dl and tell me if it makes a difference? If not, I can also try building it with tk 8.6 which supposedly has improved mac support. Thanks, Jonathan Thanks for any info, jm Jean-Michel Dumas http://www.jmdumas.org http://magasin.bandcamp.com ___pd-l...@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD on retina display
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 7:48 PM, Jean-Michel Dumas jm.du...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.comwrote: On 08/21/2013 11:14 AM, Jean-Michel Dumas wrote: Hi Jonathan, It stays the same with your build, but that pref pane of yours is pretty neat! Some more info for those who care: - If I load a pre-retina patch and copy it in a new patcher it fixes things except for labels and what if you save it and then load the saved post-retina patch? I can't imagine anything in the source file that would flag a patch wrt this. as expected, the newly saved patch is fine when reopening it. - If I start a new patch, all is good in the patch even labels (the windowing system is still wrong though, i.e. title bar, dialogs, etc) - If I load a pre-retina patch and create new objects in it, the new objects look wrong I know this is about aesthetics and thus pretty low on the PD dev scale, but everything else is so nice on the retina.. Maybe take some screenshots of the main window, loading an old patch, loading a new patch, etc. Then post the screenshots somewhere on the web and put the links in this thread. Unfortunately I don't have a retina display. here's a screenshot of an opened patch versus the same patch pasted in a new patcher: http://i.imgur.com/J3U4z6w.png cheers, jm I have the impression that these are two different fonts. András ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD on retina display
it is the same font, but you pointed me in the right direction. copying the old patcher automatically reduces the font size to 10 instead of 12 apparently. so that's why the patch looks better. when I put the new patch's font at 12, it looks exactly like the old one. the pixel doubled mode problem stays for dialogs, titles and menus, plus I really don't want to go through all my old patches and change the font size! ;) jm Jean-Michel Dumas http://www.jmdumas.org http://magasin.bandcamp.com On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 2:02 PM, András Murányi muran...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 7:48 PM, Jean-Michel Dumas jm.du...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.comwrote: On 08/21/2013 11:14 AM, Jean-Michel Dumas wrote: Hi Jonathan, It stays the same with your build, but that pref pane of yours is pretty neat! Some more info for those who care: - If I load a pre-retina patch and copy it in a new patcher it fixes things except for labels and what if you save it and then load the saved post-retina patch? I can't imagine anything in the source file that would flag a patch wrt this. as expected, the newly saved patch is fine when reopening it. - If I start a new patch, all is good in the patch even labels (the windowing system is still wrong though, i.e. title bar, dialogs, etc) - If I load a pre-retina patch and create new objects in it, the new objects look wrong I know this is about aesthetics and thus pretty low on the PD dev scale, but everything else is so nice on the retina.. Maybe take some screenshots of the main window, loading an old patch, loading a new patch, etc. Then post the screenshots somewhere on the web and put the links in this thread. Unfortunately I don't have a retina display. here's a screenshot of an opened patch versus the same patch pasted in a new patcher: http://i.imgur.com/J3U4z6w.png cheers, jm I have the impression that these are two different fonts. András ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD on retina display
On 08/21/13 21:09, Jean-Michel Dumas wrote:
the pixel doubled mode problem stays for dialogs, titles and menus,
plus I really don't want to go through all my old patches and change the
font size! ;)
why not? it should be quite simple:
$ find . -type f -name *.pd -exec \
sed -i -e '/^#N canvas/s/12;$/10;/' \{\} \;
fgmdras
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lol I knew someone would post something like that and i'm aware of ways to
do that (though not sed, since you have to be a wizard and/or a machine to
use that). i'm still keeping that line, could be handy sometime, thanks.
i'm working between multiple machines from a centralized patch repository,
which means fixing the look of all the patches for one will render them
weird looking on the others. my main patching machine is running Ubuntu and
everything looks fine on it. the gig machine I need stuff to look good on
is a new macbook, hence the retina display.
anyway, the fact remains that all dialogs and menu bars and titles stay
ugly even if I can partially fix the patches by reducing font size.
i'm guessing it's XQuartz's fault somehow, but I know nothing about it or
how to change the display mode.
jm
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http://www.jmdumas.org
http://magasin.bandcamp.com
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 4:05 PM, IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote:
On 08/21/13 21:09, Jean-Michel Dumas wrote:
the pixel doubled mode problem stays for dialogs, titles and menus,
plus I really don't want to go through all my old patches and change the
font size! ;)
why not? it should be quite simple:
$ find . -type f -name *.pd -exec \
sed -i -e '/^#N canvas/s/12;$/10;/' \{\} \;
fgmdras
IOhannes
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Re: [PD] PD on retina display
On 08/21/13 22:29, Jean-Michel Dumas wrote: lol I knew someone would post something like that and i'm aware of ways to do that (though not sed, since you have to be a wizard and/or a machine to use that). i'm still keeping that line, could be handy sometime, thanks. ah i forgot to add, that i only did test that one-liner on a simple Pd-patch. you might want test it in a sandbox before using it to destroy your entire patch collection. mfgadrs IOhannes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD on retina display
Here's another possible approach... to get the dialogs etc to look OK you
can comment out the line tk scaling 1 in tcl/pd-gui.tcl (a long confused
thread on this: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2013-06/019517.html)
and then to get the actual patch contents to look OK again, try to change
the scaling of canvases using this: http://wiki.tcl.tk/4844
I don't have any way to test all this (no 'retina display' - I use a desktop
machine - and anyway I'd rather swallow broken glass than use a Macintosh
today).
cheers
Miller
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 04:29:43PM -0400, Jean-Michel Dumas wrote:
lol I knew someone would post something like that and i'm aware of ways to
do that (though not sed, since you have to be a wizard and/or a machine to
use that). i'm still keeping that line, could be handy sometime, thanks.
i'm working between multiple machines from a centralized patch repository,
which means fixing the look of all the patches for one will render them
weird looking on the others. my main patching machine is running Ubuntu and
everything looks fine on it. the gig machine I need stuff to look good on
is a new macbook, hence the retina display.
anyway, the fact remains that all dialogs and menu bars and titles stay
ugly even if I can partially fix the patches by reducing font size.
i'm guessing it's XQuartz's fault somehow, but I know nothing about it or
how to change the display mode.
jm
Jean-Michel Dumas
http://www.jmdumas.org
http://magasin.bandcamp.com
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 4:05 PM, IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote:
On 08/21/13 21:09, Jean-Michel Dumas wrote:
the pixel doubled mode problem stays for dialogs, titles and menus,
plus I really don't want to go through all my old patches and change the
font size! ;)
why not? it should be quite simple:
$ find . -type f -name *.pd -exec \
sed -i -e '/^#N canvas/s/12;$/10;/' \{\} \;
fgmdras
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Re: [PD] PD on retina display
A quick google search gives me this: Is it possible to have git gui / gitk look good on a retina Macbook Pro? and this. It seems there is a plist key for Retina-able apps. Can you try adding the following to /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Info.plist: keyNSHighResolutionCapable/key true/ On Aug 21, 2013, at 4:30 PM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: From: Jean-Michel Dumas jm.du...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] PD on retina display Date: August 21, 2013 4:29:43 PM EDT To: IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at Cc: PDlist pd-list@iem.at lol I knew someone would post something like that and i'm aware of ways to do that (though not sed, since you have to be a wizard and/or a machine to use that). i'm still keeping that line, could be handy sometime, thanks. i'm working between multiple machines from a centralized patch repository, which means fixing the look of all the patches for one will render them weird looking on the others. my main patching machine is running Ubuntu and everything looks fine on it. the gig machine I need stuff to look good on is a new macbook, hence the retina display. anyway, the fact remains that all dialogs and menu bars and titles stay ugly even if I can partially fix the patches by reducing font size. i'm guessing it's XQuartz's fault somehow, but I know nothing about it or how to change the display mode. jm Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.com robotcowboy.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD on retina display
Also, apparently it's possible to run retina resolutions on non retina hardware for testing: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12124576/how-to-simulate-a-retina-display-hidpi-mode-in-mac-os-x-10-8-mountain-lion-on/13596261#13596261 That should work for testing Pd + retina without a new machine (hint hint Jonathan :D) On Aug 21, 2013, at 5:15 PM, Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.com wrote: A quick google search gives me this: Is it possible to have git gui / gitk look good on a retina Macbook Pro? and this. It seems there is a plist key for Retina-able apps. Can you try adding the following to /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Info.plist: keyNSHighResolutionCapable/key true/ On Aug 21, 2013, at 4:30 PM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: From: Jean-Michel Dumas jm.du...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] PD on retina display Date: August 21, 2013 4:29:43 PM EDT To: IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at Cc: PDlist pd-list@iem.at lol I knew someone would post something like that and i'm aware of ways to do that (though not sed, since you have to be a wizard and/or a machine to use that). i'm still keeping that line, could be handy sometime, thanks. i'm working between multiple machines from a centralized patch repository, which means fixing the look of all the patches for one will render them weird looking on the others. my main patching machine is running Ubuntu and everything looks fine on it. the gig machine I need stuff to look good on is a new macbook, hence the retina display. anyway, the fact remains that all dialogs and menu bars and titles stay ugly even if I can partially fix the patches by reducing font size. i'm guessing it's XQuartz's fault somehow, but I know nothing about it or how to change the display mode. jm Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.com robotcowboy.com Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.com robotcowboy.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD on retina display
I'll be away from the retina Mac for a couple of days but I'll make sure to test both possible fixes (Miller's and Dan's) as soon as I get back. Cheers and thanks, Jm -- envoyé par un androïde -- On Aug 21, 2013 5:21 PM, Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.com wrote: Also, apparently it's possible to run retina resolutions on non retina hardware for testing: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12124576/how-to-simulate-a-retina-display-hidpi-mode-in-mac-os-x-10-8-mountain-lion-on/13596261#13596261 That should work for testing Pd + retina without a new machine (hint hint Jonathan :D) On Aug 21, 2013, at 5:15 PM, Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.com wrote: A quick google search gives me this: Is it possible to have git gui / gitk look good on a retina Macbook Pro?http://superuser.com/questions/620824/is-it-possible-to-have-git-gui-gitk-look-good-on-a-retina-macbook-pro and this http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.tcl.mac/7164. It seems there is a plist key for Retina-able apps. Can you try adding the following to /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Info.plist: keyNSHighResolutionCapable/key true/ On Aug 21, 2013, at 4:30 PM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: *From: *Jean-Michel Dumas jm.du...@gmail.com *Subject: **Re: [PD] PD on retina display* *Date: *August 21, 2013 4:29:43 PM EDT *To: *IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at *Cc: *PDlist pd-list@iem.at lol I knew someone would post something like that and i'm aware of ways to do that (though not sed, since you have to be a wizard and/or a machine to use that). i'm still keeping that line, could be handy sometime, thanks. i'm working between multiple machines from a centralized patch repository, which means fixing the look of all the patches for one will render them weird looking on the others. my main patching machine is running Ubuntu and everything looks fine on it. the gig machine I need stuff to look good on is a new macbook, hence the retina display. anyway, the fact remains that all dialogs and menu bars and titles stay ugly even if I can partially fix the patches by reducing font size. i'm guessing it's XQuartz's fault somehow, but I know nothing about it or how to change the display mode. jm Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.com robotcowboy.com Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.com robotcowboy.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD on retina display
On 08/20/2013 03:30 PM, Jean-Michel Dumas wrote: Hi all, Is there a fix to restore a decent look for patches on a retina display? Right now they all open in X11 (XQuartz on 10.8 apparently) using the pixel doubled mode and well, look like it's 1995 all over again. I searched the list for retina in the subject line but nothing showed up. I've got a mac build that demo's my revision of the Preferences Dialog which (I think) uses the newer API: http://puredata.info/Members/jancsika/Pd-with-prefs-0.43.zip/view?searchterm=pd%20with%20prefs Can you dl and tell me if it makes a difference? If not, I can also try building it with tk 8.6 which supposedly has improved mac support. Thanks, Jonathan Thanks for any info, jm Jean-Michel Dumas http://www.jmdumas.org http://magasin.bandcamp.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
