Re: [PD] recursive controls problem
thanks to all for your responses... very helpful! i've implemented a solution based on lorenzo's suggestion, and it works just fine! one further question: since my slider is in a gui panel for the patch, with all the other code buried in subpatches, is there a way to get the slider's send to float out of view (other than just sticking it under the slider!)? thanks again... cheers! .pltk. On 2014-05-09 07:22, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: On 09/05/2014 07:24, plutek infinity wrote: [...] i'm trying to control one numerical value in a few ways: 1. have a bang to set an initial value 2. have a slider for mouse control 3. use keyboard keys to increment and decrement [...] the problem is, of course, that if i connect the expr result back up to the slider input, i get a loop with stack overflow errors. See attached. This indeed uses the IEM gui'trick' where if you set all sends and receive to the same name in the properties they will be in sync. Please disregard my previous message about crashing.. (I was erroneously using a vanilla numberbox instead of the Number2 (IEM gui) one). Lorenzo. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] recursive controls problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2014? 05? 10? 23:56, plutek infinity wrote: since my slider is in a gui panel for the patch, with all the other code buried in subpatches, is there a way to get the slider's send to float out of view (other than just sticking it under the slider!)? by turning it into an abstraction using Graph on parent (GOP) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlNuSF0ACgkQ3EB7kzgMM6L0hQCfYt9tlzRSdPx+nFL4SAOOET2c NGEAn2zVA53Ndb3MKjjlooXMPnLF2Th5 =/J26 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] recursive controls problem
thanks, max! right, so it looks like this needs to be the summer of pd tutorials! :) cheers! .pltk. On 2014-05-10 11:40, Max wrote: On 2014? 05? 10? 23:56, plutek infinity wrote: since my slider is in a gui panel for the patch, with all the other code buried in subpatches, is there a way to get the slider's send to float out of view (other than just sticking it under the slider!)? by turning it into an abstraction using Graph on parent (GOP) ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] recursive controls problem
...which makes me wonder: besides all the various tutorials, is there a comprehensive online course about pd that one can work through? cheers! .pltk. On 2014-05-10 11:58, plutek infinity wrote: thanks, max! right, so it looks like this needs to be the summer of pd tutorials! :) cheers! .pltk. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] recursive controls problem
I took a stab at it. The main item here is the [set $1( message. That allows you to update the display/state of the slider without outputting a value. The [trigger a a] isn't needed for the patch to run correctly, but it makes it easier to see the connection that feeds back up the chain. -Jonathan On Friday, May 9, 2014 1:33 AM, plutek infinity plu...@infinity.net wrote: greetings! i'm sure this is a simple problem, but i can't seem to come up with the solution... i'm trying to control one numerical value in a few ways: 1. have a bang to set an initial value 2. have a slider for mouse control 3. use keyboard keys to increment and decrement the attached patch all works, except i ALSO want the slider position to pick up the current value, as changed by any of the other methods. the problem is, of course, that if i connect the expr result back up to the slider input, i get a loop with stack overflow errors. i'd be most grateful for any pointers you can offer... thanks much! cheers! .pltk. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list multi-control_test_rev.pd Description: Binary data ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] recursive controls problem
Hi, you could use a set $1-message to only set the slider's display value without letting it propagate the new value to its outlet. Ciao -- Frank On Fri, May 09, 2014 at 01:24:34AM -0400, plutek infinity wrote: greetings! i'm sure this is a simple problem, but i can't seem to come up with the solution... i'm trying to control one numerical value in a few ways: 1. have a bang to set an initial value 2. have a slider for mouse control 3. use keyboard keys to increment and decrement the attached patch all works, except i ALSO want the slider position to pick up the current value, as changed by any of the other methods. the problem is, of course, that if i connect the expr result back up to the slider input, i get a loop with stack overflow errors. i'd be most grateful for any pointers you can offer... thanks much! cheers! .pltk. #N canvas 0 29 958 1049 10; #X obj 54 95 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1; #X msg 55 117 0.9; #X obj 251 122 key; #X obj 251 144 select 113; #X obj 125 330 expr $f1+$f2; #X msg 251 167 0.05; #X floatatom 125 352 5 0 0 0 - - -, f 5; #X obj 89 69 hsl 128 15 0 1 0 0 empty empty empty -2 -8 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 1000 1; #X obj 211 183 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1; #X obj 150 297 float; #X obj 369 116 key; #X obj 333 178 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1; #X obj 369 138 select 97; #X msg 369 161 -0.05; #X msg 184 134 0; #X connect 0 0 1 0; #X connect 0 0 14 0; #X connect 1 0 9 0; #X connect 2 0 3 0; #X connect 3 0 5 0; #X connect 4 0 6 0; #X connect 4 0 9 1; #X connect 5 0 4 1; #X connect 5 0 8 0; #X connect 7 0 9 0; #X connect 7 0 14 0; #X connect 8 0 9 0; #X connect 9 0 4 0; #X connect 10 0 12 0; #X connect 11 0 9 0; #X connect 12 0 13 0; #X connect 13 0 11 0; #X connect 13 0 4 1; #X connect 14 0 4 1; ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org__ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] recursive controls problem
Hi, On 09/05/2014 07:24, plutek infinity wrote: greetings! i'm sure this is a simple problem, but i can't seem to come up with the solution... i'm trying to control one numerical value in a few ways: 1. have a bang to set an initial value 2. have a slider for mouse control 3. use keyboard keys to increment and decrement the attached patch all works, except i ALSO want the slider position to pick up the current value, as changed by any of the other methods. Does the send / receive trick to sync e.g. a numberbox and a slider still work? It seems to crash Pd on windows. the problem is, of course, that if i connect the expr result back up to the slider input, i get a loop with stack overflow errors. i'd be most grateful for any pointers you can offer... thanks much! cheers! .pltk. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] recursive controls problem
you can also use [change] in the chain to make sure messages are not resent when they are the same On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 6:12 PM, Lorenzo Sutton lorenzofsut...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, On 09/05/2014 07:24, plutek infinity wrote: greetings! i'm sure this is a simple problem, but i can't seem to come up with the solution... i'm trying to control one numerical value in a few ways: 1. have a bang to set an initial value 2. have a slider for mouse control 3. use keyboard keys to increment and decrement the attached patch all works, except i ALSO want the slider position to pick up the current value, as changed by any of the other methods. Does the send / receive trick to sync e.g. a numberbox and a slider still work? It seems to crash Pd on windows. the problem is, of course, that if i connect the expr result back up to the slider input, i get a loop with stack overflow errors. i'd be most grateful for any pointers you can offer... thanks much! cheers! .pltk. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] recursive controls problem
On 09/05/2014 07:24, plutek infinity wrote: [...] i'm trying to control one numerical value in a few ways: 1. have a bang to set an initial value 2. have a slider for mouse control 3. use keyboard keys to increment and decrement [...] the problem is, of course, that if i connect the expr result back up to the slider input, i get a loop with stack overflow errors. See attached. This indeed uses the IEM gui'trick' where if you set all sends and receive to the same name in the properties they will be in sync. Please disregard my previous message about crashing.. (I was erroneously using a vanilla numberbox instead of the Number2 (IEM gui) one). Lorenzo. #N canvas 275 188 871 498 10; #X obj 35 29 hsl 128 20 -10 10 0 0 aa aa empty -2 -8 0 10 -1 -4034 -4034 11366 1; #X obj 191 36 nbx 5 14 -10 10 0 0 aa aa empty 0 -8 0 14 -1 -4032 -4032 7.9 256; #X obj 240 408 + 0.05; #X obj 43 410 float 0.9; #X obj 43 144 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1; #X msg 43 164 0.9; #X obj 60 196 s aa; #X obj 32 63 s to_float; #X obj 103 196 r to_float; #X obj 344 66 key; #X obj 344 100 sel 113 97; #X floatatom 388 84 5 0 0 0 - - -, f 5; #X msg 344 128 1; #X msg 377 128 -1; #X obj 372 238 *; #X obj 336 188 f 0.05; #X floatatom 413 268 5 0 0 0 - - -, f 5; #X obj 390 188 change; #X obj 347 267 t b b f; #X obj 344 159 t b b f; #X text 6 5 open properties to see send/recieve trick...; #X text 19 86 needed to explicitly set the value \; when mous is used ; #X obj 43 464 s aa; #X obj 44 432 clip -10 10; #X text 136 436 In case you want this range (see also GUI objects' properits...); #X text 313 338 - this bang (going into the [+ 0.05]) is needed for correct change of 'direction' (try without...); #X connect 0 0 7 0; #X connect 1 0 7 0; #X connect 2 0 3 1; #X connect 3 0 23 0; #X connect 4 0 5 0; #X connect 5 0 6 0; #X connect 5 0 3 0; #X connect 8 0 3 0; #X connect 9 0 10 0; #X connect 9 0 11 0; #X connect 10 0 12 0; #X connect 10 1 13 0; #X connect 12 0 19 0; #X connect 13 0 19 0; #X connect 14 0 16 0; #X connect 14 0 18 0; #X connect 15 0 14 0; #X connect 17 0 14 1; #X connect 18 0 3 0; #X connect 18 1 2 0; #X connect 18 2 2 1; #X connect 19 1 15 0; #X connect 19 2 17 0; #X connect 23 0 22 0; #X connect 23 0 2 0; ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
