My new-to-me MZ S!

2004-06-04 Thread Sid Barras
Hi Group, I've gotten a very nice MZ S plus the battery/vertical shutter release grip, and all I can say is WOW! A great camera. I've used it for a couple of rolls now, too soon to decide its my favorite pentax ever, but I'm leaning that way! There is nothing so far I don't like about it.

RE: More rumors on Baby-D!

2004-06-04 Thread Rob Studdert
On 4 Jun 2004 at 10:03, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Thu, 3 Jun 2004, Shawn K. wrote: By the way, Pentax has an AF converter, it's available used too. It only works with manual lenses. My 1.7AF TC works well with appropriate AF lenses. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel

FS Friday: SMC-FA 24-90 lens

2004-06-04 Thread Jarek Dabrowski
Hello PDML, I am selling SMC Pentax-FA 24-90mm AL IF zoom lens: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3819343601 Worldwide shipping. Auction ends on Tuesday. Best regards, Jerry

Re: Papa-D

2004-06-04 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 04.06.04 13:59, Rob Studdert at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What? and then not have the shutter work if the centre focus point isn't OK, two switches for me two. H... I am almost sure that my bodies have never required focus confirmation to make shutter work... but: - I could have special

PAW: Abandoned building # 4

2004-06-04 Thread brooksdj
Hi Gang. Ok so i get the hint,no more cute cats shots,vbgso this week i'll submit this shot taken last Sunday on the drive home from a very small horse show.I have been on this road before but must have missed this building. I cropped it a bit as i had

Re: An image for list appraisal

2004-06-04 Thread Rob Studdert
On 4 Jun 2004 at 12:05, Lasse Karlsson wrote: It's a good shot. There is something to the far away line of trees and the sky. I would have preferred a greater sense of deepness, in lack of other words. In my uncalibrated monitor it now bordes to being slightly washed out. (I said borders

Re: Papa-D

2004-06-04 Thread Rob Studdert
On 4 Jun 2004 at 14:10, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: on 04.06.04 13:59, Rob Studdert at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What? and then not have the shutter work if the centre focus point isn't OK, two switches for me two. H... I am almost sure that my bodies have never required focus

RE: PAWs - Trip to Washington and Oregon

2004-06-04 Thread Larry Hodgson
Nice work Larry. Was #3 #4 the same scene shot with different white balance? Butch Thanks Butch. No, these sre two separate images. Both images were shot and processed with Auto white balance. It was much dacker and much longer exposure on #4. Larry from Prescott

RE: More rumors on Baby-D!

2004-06-04 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Fri, 4 Jun 2004, Rob Studdert wrote: My 1.7AF TC works well with appropriate AF lenses. Perhaps I did not read the manual well. Kostas

Re: An image for list appraisal

2004-06-04 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Fri, 4 Jun 2004, Rob Studdert wrote: shooting against the sun requires one to be a bit defensive with the diaphragm? You may have missed the technical details but the shot was made at ISO200 f8 1/800th, pretty underexposed, any more exposure and the sun would have consumed most of the

Tamron AD2 300/5.6 SP

2004-06-04 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
Hi, Does anyone have this lens? Any comments? Thanks, Kostas

RE: More rumors on Baby-D!

2004-06-04 Thread Rob Studdert
On 4 Jun 2004 at 13:31, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Fri, 4 Jun 2004, Rob Studdert wrote: My 1.7AF TC works well with appropriate AF lenses. Perhaps I did not read the manual well. I don't think I read it at all :-) What it does do is have a limited range, ie often the lens must be

Re: An image for list appraisal

2004-06-04 Thread Rob Studdert
On 4 Jun 2004 at 13:33, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Fri, 4 Jun 2004, Rob Studdert wrote: shooting against the sun requires one to be a bit defensive with the diaphragm? You may have missed the technical details but the shot was made at ISO200 f8 1/800th, pretty underexposed, any

Re: Papa-D

2004-06-04 Thread John Mustarde
On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 07:17:04 -0400, you wrote: what has happened is that my readings on people who actually do what i am trying to and are making a living at it say the same thing. if you have the basics down, stop playing with wannabe hardware and get what it takes to get the job done reliably,

Re: More rumors on Baby-D!

2004-06-04 Thread Norm Baugher
Ouch Rob, who woke you up? vbg Norm Rob Studdert wrote: snip ouch

Re: Scanning Software: Nikonscan v Vuescan

2004-06-04 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Which begs the questions, what platform are you using, and how's it set up? Processor, speed, etc. Shel Belinkoff [Original Message] From: Lon Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 6/4/2004 2:08:38 AM Subject: Re: Scanning Software: Nikonscan v Vuescan Shel, I don't

Re: Scanning Software: Nikonscan v Vuescan

2004-06-04 Thread Jan van Wijk
Hi Shel, On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 17:14:34 -0700, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Now that I'll soon have my very Coolscan film scanner, these questions have more significance. So, what is it about Nikon software that you don't like? In what way is Vuescan better? I've downloaded the Vuescan Getting Started

Re: Shooting these pesty birds :)

2004-06-04 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I believe that it is a device for listening to, and recording, bird songs. Frantisek Vlcek wrote: Hi, On the Pt.Pelee posts, I wrote that much more important than fancy long glass for a bird photographer is patience. Without it, and preparation, you are just a snapshooter. So, to be more

FS: expanded and reduced

2004-06-04 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
#1 #2 Sunpak 611 flashes. GN160 ft. They're in used but fully functional condition. The variable power setting works fine. Each comes with a charger and NiCd pack BUT (and this is good) because the NiCds are not holding a charge worth anything ... each comes with 4 C-cell NiMH batteries. And

Ritz Camera: Comments on Scanner Purchase

2004-06-04 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I purchased the new scanner thru Ritz Camera on line, not a shop that I'd even considered as an original choice. However, the scanner was out of stock almost everywhere, and the few places that claimed to have one in stock either had poor reputations, high prices, or were offering grey market.

Re: photography vs cameras

2004-06-04 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Frantisek Vlcek Subject: Re: photography vs cameras But it still drives me crazy when, as you said, nobody in their sane mind without the knowledge and feel would try to repair their car, but anybody with a camera thinks he is the photographer. Where has

Re: Papa-D lust

2004-06-04 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Collin Brendemuehl Subject: Re: Papa-D lust Fortunately, Acros is still there. It will likely outlive all the rest, and I strongly hope so. Now if only they'd cut it in 8x10! This has long been my complaint with Fuji. They don't support the low volume

Re: Tamron AD2 300/5.6 SP

2004-06-04 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Kostas Kavoussanakis Subject: Tamron AD2 300/5.6 SP Hi, Does anyone have this lens? Any comments? Yup. Like it for film, haven't tried it on the istD yet. It's pretty compact, and produces good pictures. Some one else on the list has one, don't remember

Re: Papa-D lust

2004-06-04 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
- Original Message - From: William Robb Subject: Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 06:49:07 -0700 - Original Message - From: Collin Brendemuehl Fortunately, Acros is still there. It will likely outlive all the rest, and I strongly hope so. Now if only they'd cut

Re: My new-to-me MZ S!

2004-06-04 Thread Jim Apilado
Congrats on the film camera. The last Pentax camera I got was the PZ1-p. The MZ S is small compared to the PZ1-P. Jim A. From: Sid Barras [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 01:05:55 -0500 To: Pentax discussion Pentax discussion list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

FS: SMCK 400mm f5.6

2004-06-04 Thread Bill D. Casselberry
This lens is still available if any of you *istD'ers care to have a telephoto w/ a 600mm's field of view. Has case, caps and a few 77mm filters is in excellent condition. A much less expensive option to those f2.8 long teles while still producing

RE: My new-to-me MZ S!

2004-06-04 Thread Jens Bladt
Hello SidB Congratulations. I agree. The MZ-S is a great camera. Wish I had a D version, though! The MZ-S also has a similar user interface as the Super A: Turn the aperture and it will switch to Av. Turn it to A and the camera will switch to Program Mode. Turn the Time Wheel to M and the camera

RE: New Pentax Price List (1.Jun) shows what is left (was Pentax

2004-06-04 Thread Jens Bladt
It's not all about MP. Some 8MP cameras didn't get very good reviews! It's about making a camera that will sell and can become the base for a versatile lens and accessory system, that will satisfy many photographers - and at a reasonable price. That's what the *ist D is, isn't it? I guess it's not

Left eye dominant (was Papa-D)

2004-06-04 Thread Norm Baugher
I'm left eyed dominant as well, as I found to my surprise, never even noticed it. I'm curious if it's 50/50 or is it predominately right-eyed? Norm Rob Studdert wrote: I'm a left eye'd shooter, I can't use the button on the back, it's as wasted on me as the vertical shutter release on the grip.

Re: My new-to-me MZ S!

2004-06-04 Thread Dario Bonazza
Jens Bladt wrote: I would like a SMC 2.8/70-210mm - for less than 1000 USD! Is that possible? That was my need too. I ended up buying an AF Sigma EX 2.8/70-200, costing around $650 and reputed to perform better than any other 70-200 (or the like) on the market (including Canon/Nikon/Pentax).

Re: Left eye dominant (was Papa-D)

2004-06-04 Thread Rob Studdert
On 4 Jun 2004 at 10:06, Norm Baugher wrote: I'm left eyed dominant as well, as I found to my surprise, never even noticed it. I'm curious if it's 50/50 or is it predominately right-eyed? Norm I don't know about the norm (har) but I was very right eye/right hand dominant until I suffered lens

Re: New Pentax Price List (1.Jun) shows what is left (was Pentax

2004-06-04 Thread Peter J. Alling
The finder will have to be updated as well, (read replaced), if the sensor is updated with say an 8mp ccd with a 1.3 crop factor. That could be expensive. It would be for all intents a new camera design. Jens Bladt wrote: It's not all about MP. Some 8MP cameras didn't get very good reviews!

Re: Tamron AD2 300/5.6 SP

2004-06-04 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Fri, 4 Jun 2004, William Robb wrote: Yup. Like it for film, haven't tried it on the istD yet. It's pretty compact, and produces good pictures. Some one else on the list has one, don't remember who. That person thought it was a bit soft. I thought it was sharp enough. Thanks William,

Re: My new-to-me MZ S!

2004-06-04 Thread Michel Carrère-Gée
Dario Bonazza a écrit : Jens Bladt wrote: I would like a SMC 2.8/70-210mm - for less than 1000 USD! Is that possible? That was my need too. I ended up buying an AF Sigma EX 2.8/70-200, costing around $650 and reputed to perform better than any other 70-200 (or the like) on the market

Re: Tamron AD2 300/5.6 SP

2004-06-04 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Kostas Kavoussanakis Subject: Re: Tamron AD2 300/5.6 SP What's a fair price for an Exc+ used one from a reputable shop at your neck of the woods? Not a clue, sorry. I bought mine from a friend who was going Nikon (silly boy) and then went to a Canon

Re: Left eye dominant (was Papa-D)

2004-06-04 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Sat, 5 Jun 2004, Rob Studdert wrote: Out of interest the following article tends to dispel the concept of eye dominance: I shoot equally badly with either eye. Kostas

Re: Left eye dominant (was Papa-D)

2004-06-04 Thread Norm Baugher
Yeah, but it still doesn't explain when the eye ~centers~ on something. Norm Rob Studdert wrote: I don't know about the norm (har) but I was very right eye/right hand dominant until I suffered lens damage a few years back which made accurate focussing impossible. The switch to the left eye was

Re: photography vs. cameras

2004-06-04 Thread Mike Nosal
At 05:04 AM 6/4/2004 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Watching what she was shooting I'm convinced she got a lot of dull, stunningly sharp pictures. Unless you saw her photos, you don't know what she got. And what's dull to you can be a treasured memory to someone else. Or maybe she did get 99

RE: Left eye dominant (was Papa-D)

2004-06-04 Thread Malcolm Smith
Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: I shoot equally badly with either eye. Hey! I resemble that remark! I know I favour my right eye, but this demands a test. What if I take better photographs with my left eye(?)another sleepless night ahead :-) Malcolm

Re: My new-to-me MZ S!

2004-06-04 Thread jaalmanza
I just bought that lens a month ago from Wells Digital for $573.95USD. It's an amazing lens. I used it in conjunction with the Sigma 2x teleconverter for an outdoor concert at night. The viewfinder was so bright that I watched most of the show through the viewfinder. :D ~J. Alejandro

Re: photography vs. cameras

2004-06-04 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Fri, 4 Jun 2004, Mike Nosal wrote: If someone spends $8000 (or $800, or $80) on photo equipment and they are satisfied by the outcome, good for them. Let them spend their money on what they want. And fund development for *your* camera. Kostas

RE: photography vs cameras

2004-06-04 Thread Shawn K.
Some people can fix things without knowing how. I know a guy in fact who took apart his VW bug engine, cleaned everything and put it back together. He left a few washers out but it still ran perfectly. He'd never done it before, and Thats pretty cool. I admit there are putzs out there, but some

RE: An image for list appraisal

2004-06-04 Thread Shawn K.
I think the sun should be out of frame. In frame its just to big, and to bright. Also, I don't see enough refraction of the suns light through the water elements. IMO a shot like this is taken in order to catch the unique ways water refracts light. I can see it happening in the foreground, but

Re: photography vs cameras

2004-06-04 Thread John Francis
ein If the goal is actually a couple of great photos of her kid, $8000 would ein buy a certain amount of time from a skilled photographer. ein Yes, this is less satisfying than doing it yourself, but I sort of resent ein the idea that all it takes to make pro-quality photos is a pro-quality

Re: Papa-D

2004-06-04 Thread Joseph Tainter
John wrote: Frame rate depends on how fast you can clock the data out of the sensor and reset the chip. I'm trying to understand this, John. Doesn't it depend on buffer size? Or processor speed? Or speed of writing to the card? If it depends only on how fast you can get data out of the chip, and

Re: photography vs cameras

2004-06-04 Thread John Francis
- Original Message - From: Frantisek Vlcek Subject: Re: photography vs cameras But it still drives me crazy when, as you said, nobody in their sane mind without the knowledge and feel would try to repair their car, but anybody with a camera thinks he is the

Re: My new-to-me MZ S!

2004-06-04 Thread John Francis
Jens Bladt asked: Who really needs more than 2,5 FPS, anyway? I do, for one. That's why I'll sometimes use the PZ-1p (and it's why I put a motor drive on my MX instead of just the power winder). It's not that I'm shooting in continuous mode - I rarely do that. But the PZ-1p is ready to take

RE: My new-to-me MZ S!

2004-06-04 Thread Jens Bladt
I never thought of using continupus mode for group shots - that's a great idea, though. A friend of mine - a photographer - once told me that for group photographs - it's always the first one, that is the best - cause people can't really concentrate for very long! All the best Jens Bladt

Re: Pentax Samba 2004, shot with SMC F 4-5.6/70-210mm

2004-06-04 Thread Dario Bonazza
Undoubtably. Some time ago I took some pictures with the *ist D and the F717, and I was really disappointed by the softness of the *ist D compared to the sharpness of the F717 :-) However, some of you will recall for sure how much (and how alone) I complained for the *ist D softness here in PDML

Re: Pentax Samba 2004, shot with SMC F 4-5.6/70-210mm

2004-06-04 Thread Gonz
What is your flow like? When I first started, I used the *istD with jpg best, so I had to jack up the sharpen, saturation, and contrast settings to avoid a PS fixup afterwards. I was not happy with the results, so I switched to RAW. But the Pentax convertor was a pain, and the only way to

Re: Left eye dominant (was Papa-D)

2004-06-04 Thread Bob W
Hi, Friday, June 4, 2004, 4:06:30 PM, Norm wrote: I'm left eyed dominant as well, as I found to my surprise, never even noticed it. I'm curious if it's 50/50 or is it predominately right-eyed? Norm I always used my left eye until I bought my first Leica M. It was quick and easy to start

RE: My new-to-me MZ S!

2004-06-04 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On Fri, 4 Jun 2004, Jens Bladt wrote: Great idea, Dario, except I would prefer a Tokina, if possible! Tokina is very nice too and it is about 200 Euro cheaper than Sigma here in EU.. It has very good build quality (mainaly metal) and good reputation (although I haven't seen any results from

Tokina AT-X AF Pro 80-200/2.8

2004-06-04 Thread Fred
Hello, Pentaxers. Does anyone have any experience with the Tokina AT-X AF Pro 80-200/2.8 zoom? I'm quite familiar with the manual focus AT-X 80-200/2.8, but I'm curious about the autofocus version (which is certainly optically as well as mechanically different). I am particularly interested in:

Re: Papa-D

2004-06-04 Thread Joseph Tainter
Got it, John. Thanks. As for autofocus: For my purposes (emphasis) the *ist D's autofocus is far inferior to that of the PZ-1p. Joe

Web space for storing photos

2004-06-04 Thread Leon Altoff
Hi all, A friend of mine is about to go off over seas with his new digital camera - not sure which one he hasn't bought it yet - and would like to be able to put up images as he goes. Can people recommend websites which allow for free posing of images and give comments of how much space is

Re: Left eye dominant (was Papa-D)

2004-06-04 Thread Paul Stenquist
I used my right eye for twenty five years until it became so far sighted that it couldn't focus. Then I learned to use my left eye, which happens to be near sighted, with my LX and 67. I sometimes had to wear a patch on my right eye or put my thumb over it to keep it closed. Then I bought the

Re: Web space for storing photos

2004-06-04 Thread Paul Stenquist
PhotoNet is very good. I don't know how many shots they allow without a membership, but it's quie a few. Paul On Jun 4, 2004, at 5:32 PM, Leon Altoff wrote: Hi all, A friend of mine is about to go off over seas with his new digital camera - not sure which one he hasn't bought it yet - and would

RE: Web space for storing photos

2004-06-04 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Almost all ISPs give you some free web space, usually 10Mb. Have him check with his isp. jco -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 5:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Web space for storing photos PhotoNet is very good. I

Re: Ritz Camera: Comments on Scanner Purchase

2004-06-04 Thread Joseph Tainter
Test message. I replied to this earlier, but my message isn't showing up on Mail-Archive. I have suspected for a couple of days that some of my posts weren't going through. Joe

Re: Left eye dominant (was Papa-D)

2004-06-04 Thread Treena
I'm right-handed but left-eye dominant. It hasn't been terribly important with cameras, but on the shooting range it does make a pronounced difference. I really don't think camera-users notice it much, but when you're trying to sight down a barrel, there is an issue of parallax - same as with

RE: Web space for storing photos

2004-06-04 Thread Jens Bladt
Fotopic.net gives you 250MB for free... Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: J. C. O'Connell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 4. juni 2004 23:45 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: RE: Web space for storing photos Almost all ISPs give

RE: Left eye dominant (was Papa-D)

2004-06-04 Thread Trevor Bailey
Christian wrote:. what's really difficult for me is that I am right handed, but because of my left eye dominance I have to shoot rifles left handed which becomes very awkward. G'day. My mate lost his right eye to a magpie attack a few years ago. He, like me shoot Full-bore rifles in

Re: Scanning Software: Nikonscan v Vuescan

2004-06-04 Thread Frantisek Vlcek
Friday, June 4, 2004, 3:09:06 PM, Shel wrote: SB Which begs the questions, what platform are you using, and how's it set up? SB Processor, speed, etc. Well, my setup was slow. Enough of memory, but slow processor (Pentium 200). But compared to the SilverFast, which was instanteous even on my old

Re: Shooting these pesty birds :)

2004-06-04 Thread Frantisek Vlcek
Friday, June 4, 2004, 3:40:18 PM, Daniel wrote: DJM I believe that it is a device for listening to, and recording, bird songs. Hi Daniel, I haven't thought of that! I thought it was an upload link to nearby computer, maybe ;-) Switching CF cards might not be pleasant when you are in a swamp...

Re: Tokina AT-X AF Pro 80-200/2.8

2004-06-04 Thread Dr. Shaun Canning
Fred, I just sold mine to a list member recently. The 80-200 is a great lens. Excellent images, extremely well built, and has reasonably good MF feel. Not that I used MF too often. These lenses are well worth the investment if this is what you want. I only sold mine because it is too heavy

Re: Tokina AT-X AF Pro 80-200/2.8

2004-06-04 Thread Frantisek Vlcek
Hi, I did try the Nikon version (as, unfortunately, my Pentax stuff is only M42 by now, but which I still enjoy). I haven't had time to use it seriously, so take my comments with a grain of salt and pepper :) Build quality seemed excellent. Heavy, metal, good. I wouldn't fear

Re: photography vs cameras

2004-06-04 Thread Bob W
Hi, I was watching a rich suburban mom shooting pictures of her son's team at a high school track meet today. She was using A Nikon D2h and 300/2.8 with a 1.4 converter--about $8000 worth of equipment and better than what I as a pro was carrying. Watching what she was shooting I'm convinced she

Re: photography vs cameras

2004-06-04 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Bob, Very well said. I was thinking of that very same comment by Hurn when I read the original post ;-)) Shel Belinkoff [Original Message] From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 6/4/2004 4:12:20 PM Subject: Re: photography vs cameras Hi, I was watching a rich

FS Friday II

2004-06-04 Thread Mark Dalal
Hey Folks, One more item to sell. I've got a SMC-M 150/3.5 in excellent condition. The glass is clean with the usual level of dust for a lens of its age. Aperture blades are clean and operate normally. Cosmetics are really nice. It comes with the original leather case and front/rear caps. I've

PAW: Best Buddies

2004-06-04 Thread Mark Dalal
One for the peanut gallery: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2417479 Yes, I'm getting a little stir crazy. Mark

Re: photography vs cameras

2004-06-04 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: John Francis Subject: Re: photography vs cameras Back in the days when cars weren't totally computerised, it was very common for people to repair most minor problems with their own hands. (There was also far more economical incentive to do so; the

Re: GFM orgy?

2004-06-04 Thread graywolf
Who says. Actually, all those who thought they were going to use their laptops and cel-phone have discovered they can not get a data connection on the mountain. As of 7pm today almost everyone from the list had arrived except TV, Tan, and Cotty. No one had any idea what was holding them up. The

Re: photography vs cameras

2004-06-04 Thread Paul Stenquist
Yo Bill, You can do some work on the Titan as well if you purchase a service manual. It's not as mysterious as it seems. Paul On Jun 4, 2004, at 8:41 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: John Francis Subject: Re: photography vs cameras Back in the days when cars weren't

Re: Left eye dominant (was Papa-D)

2004-06-04 Thread David Mann
On Jun 5, 2004, at 3:06 AM, Norm Baugher wrote: I'm left eyed dominant as well, as I found to my surprise, never even noticed it. I'm curious if it's 50/50 or is it predominately right-eyed? I shoot with my left eye... not for any particular reason. Sometimes if the sun is annoying me or I'm

Re: Left eye dominant (was Papa-D)

2004-06-04 Thread David Mann
On Jun 5, 2004, at 9:03 AM, Bob W wrote: What I don't get on with are cameras with important controls on the back. My nose gets in the way. The Z-1p is annoying in that regard. My nose is always hitting the exposure compensation or meter mode buttons. Cheers, - Dave