RE: Interesting marketing

2006-02-17 Thread Jens Bladt
He'll probably just say: I never said so! Amazing what some people will do to sell a Nikon. isn't it? Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 16. februar 2006 07:05 Til: Pentax Discuss Emne: Interesting marketing We

SV: Interesting marketing

2006-02-17 Thread Jens Bladt
Why do sales people hate Pentax? I could never figure that out. I guess they get paid less?? Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Scott Loveless [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 16. februar 2006 07:28 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: Interesting

Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-17 Thread John Forbes
On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 03:41:10 -, E.R.N. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Forbes wrote: On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 23:58:24 -, E.R.N. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I only know of one religion whose followers behave like that. I think I know a lot of the followers of said religion who

Re: PESO - Catchin' the Light

2006-02-17 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Jay, Thanks for the comment. The lens is very cool. It is small and light for a 400mm and focuses very close. I use it quite a bit. I expect to see some of your pics! -- Best regards, Bruce Thursday, February 16, 2006, 11:31:16 PM, you wrote: JT Bruce, JT I'm just now seeing this

RE: Interesting marketing

2006-02-17 Thread Jens Bladt
Entertaining stories, Shel! Regards Jens Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 16. februar 2006 14:39 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: Interesting marketing Long ago I learned never to judge people by their

Re: Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-17 Thread dagt
fra: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 23:58:24 -, E.R.N. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I only know of one religion whose followers behave like that. I think I know a lot of the followers of said religion who wouldn't do it either, but there's an overwhelmingly

Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-17 Thread dagt
fra: Kevin Waterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] This one time, at band camp, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is actually irrelevant to the issue of whether God exists or not. This is a simple one. If you believe God exists, then yes, there is a God. If you do not believe God exists, then

RE: Ebay nonsense - New record price for this lens?

2006-02-17 Thread Jens Bladt
With adapteres it's different, isn't it? Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Adam Maas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 16. februar 2006 21:37 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: Ebay nonsense - New record price for this lens? Jens, I've got a

Re: OT Religion, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-17 Thread dagt
fra: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Marco Alpert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tom C wrote: As mere humans with finite life spans, none of us can claim to know it all or understand it all. Exactly. But that does not mean there is not a belief system that embraces truth and comes as close as

Re: Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-17 Thread dagt
fra: Collin R Brendemuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tom C Thu, 16 Feb 2006 16:03:54 -0800 I'm sure he did as well. I'm quite sure God exists, but I don't subscribe to the belief that Jesus was God on earth (which he never said he was). Tom C. Yes, he did. He clarified the point

Re: OT Religion, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-17 Thread dagt
fra: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Keith McGuinness Subject: Re: OT Religion, Christ vs. the Other Guy Of course, to confuse the picture, people do not necessarily agree on what counts as evidence, or how to interpet that which is available.

RE: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-17 Thread Bob W
OK, I see what you mean. However I don't think it works, for at least 2 reasons. First, the holy books are all written by people and there's no reason to think that those people had any special insight into the nature of their god that other people don't have. Second, the books are all so vague

Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-17 Thread John Forbes
On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 09:09:00 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: fra: Kevin Waterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] This one time, at band camp, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is actually irrelevant to the issue of whether God exists or not. This is a simple one. If you believe God exists, then yes,

Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-17 Thread Juan Buhler
On 2/16/06, Collin R Brendemuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Hitler was a Marxist. [...] Canada and the US are Socialist to varying degrees, watered-down varieties of Marx' beliefs. Collin, After those statements, I cannot begin to imagine what your ideal system might be like. I'm

RE: Pentax Pre PMA announcment.

2006-02-17 Thread Jens Bladt
Jay: The gear available right now for say shooting birds in flight or other similar subjects is somewhat limited. With a Pentax name on it, it is. Other than that, there's quite a few lenses availble from Tokina, Tamron and Sigma and a few Chinese ones too. This one is quite nice:

Heron In The Field

2006-02-17 Thread Jay Taylor
Not sure what this one was searching for in the middle of a grass field; a rodent maybe? I always thought they did most of their hunting around the shorlines. This one was a good half mile away from the water. Taken with the newly acquired Tokina AT-X 400 f5.6 . I think I'm going to have to

Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-17 Thread Juan Buhler
On 2/17/06, John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, that still leaves us with no answer to the question of how the universe began. Those who believe in a god can sidestep that question, which is very convenient for them. Only because they don't care to ask themselves all the questions

Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-17 Thread David Mann
On Feb 17, 2006, at 12:21 PM, Jens Bladt wrote: So, now it's newpapers - in plural. It realy was just one. It was published in a couple of papers in this country, after the situation had blown up overseas. That got them a little meeting with the Prime Minister, after which an apology was

Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-17 Thread Mishka
Marx was communist. Ergo, Hitler was communist (!) and USA and Canda are watered-down versions of USSR. I'm back to USSR! best, mishka On 2/17/06, Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/16/06, Collin R Brendemuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Hitler was a Marxist. [...] Canada

Re: OT Religion, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-17 Thread Mishka
no, that's quite an objective truth -- i just check a few rolls, neither had pulse. film is very dead. best, mishka On 2/17/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Film is dead. WW That's what you believe .-) DagT

Re: Pentax Pre PMA announcment.

2006-02-17 Thread David Mann
On Feb 17, 2006, at 7:16 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Most of the folks I know who've ordered the Nikon D200 within the past three months are still waiting too. Only 2 of the 12 people have received their cameras. Down here that happens with any new Nikon or Canon body. But our market is

Re: Interesting marketing

2006-02-17 Thread David Mann
On Feb 17, 2006, at 12:52 AM, Leon Altoff wrote: He was driving along and though he might like to buy a convertible (he does this). He stopped at a Honda dealership and asked to test drive their convertible. He was dressed very casually at the time - shorts, polo shirt, $2000 watch - and

Re: Pentax Pre PMA announcment.

2006-02-17 Thread John Forbes
On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 08:53:08 -, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jay: The gear available right now for say shooting birds in flight or other similar subjects is somewhat limited. With a Pentax name on it, it is. Other than that, there's quite a few lenses availble from Tokina,

Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-17 Thread John Forbes
On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 08:58:39 -, Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/17/06, John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, that still leaves us with no answer to the question of how the universe began. Those who believe in a god can sidestep that question, which is very convenient

Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-17 Thread John Forbes
Collin provides more laughs on this list than Cotty and Bill Robb combined. John On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 09:10:20 -, Mishka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marx was communist. Ergo, Hitler was communist (!) and USA and Canda are watered-down versions of USSR. I'm back to USSR! best, mishka On

Re: Colour calibrating ACR for your Pentax DSLR

2006-02-17 Thread Rob Studdert
On 16 Feb 2006 at 20:07, Mark Erickson wrote: Rob, I looked at the site and I couldn't find a description of how to light the target. Can you describe the process that you go through to obtain the image that is input into the processing? Hi Mark, I just used normal illumination but I

Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-17 Thread dagt
That's the fun part with a simplified left-rigth categorization of the political system. You can always put the people you don't like on the other side .-) Sure, you can put Hitler among the communists, as well as other totalitarian systems? And how about anarchists and idealistic communists

Offline...

2006-02-17 Thread Dr.Heiko Hamann
Hi, in the last months I've found nearly no time to read or even participate in the PDML. I'm afraid it's better for me to leave the list for a while. I'm still in the Pentax realm and hope to come back soon, but at the moment I have to clear up my mailboxes. Feel free to contact me if

Re: OT Religion, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-17 Thread dagt
But it's got soul .-) DagT fra: Mishka [EMAIL PROTECTED] no, that's quite an objective truth -- i just check a few rolls, neither had pulse. film is very dead. best, mishka On 2/17/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Film is dead. WW That's what you believe

RE: Heron In The Field

2006-02-17 Thread Jens Bladt
Very nice - quite sharp for F.6.7. Why do you shoot a 400mm handheld at 200ASA? I'd use a monopod, I think. What is LBA? Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Jay Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 17. februar 2006 09:55 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net

Re: SV: Interesting marketing

2006-02-17 Thread John Whittingham
Why do sales people hate Pentax? I could never figure that out. I guess they get paid less?? My local dealer won't even stock them now it's been that way for years. Everyone that goes in for an SLR including all the students from our college inevitably comes out with a C***n, needless to say

Re: Another stacked set

2006-02-17 Thread Rob Studdert
On 17 Feb 2006 at 9:51, Don Williams wrote: Hi Rob, The stacking of images has been done for a long time in laboratories using electron and light microscopes. We did this in the late 70s on an HP2000 system in my Institute. I was able to entice a virologist from Holland (despite

Re: Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-17 Thread mike wilson
From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Most major auto manufacturers have been sued with sudden accel as the allegation. I've experienced this with a couple of vehicles. As far as I could ascertain, it was a function of the fuel delivery system to deliver excess fuel if the catalytic

Re: Re: Interesting marketing

2006-02-17 Thread mike wilson
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/02/17 Fri AM 02:53:39 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Interesting marketing Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 16/2/06, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Want me to have a look around Pittsburgh's record shops?

Re: Heron In The Field

2006-02-17 Thread Derby Chang
Jay Taylor wrote: Not sure what this one was searching for in the middle of a grass field; a rodent maybe? I always thought they did most of their hunting around the shorlines. This one was a good half mile away from the water. Taken with the newly acquired Tokina AT-X 400 f5.6 . I think I'm

Re: Heron In The Field

2006-02-17 Thread mike wilson
From: Jay Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/02/17 Fri AM 08:55:01 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Heron In The Field Not sure what this one was searching for in the middle of a grass field; a rodent maybe? I always thought they did most of their hunting around the

Dodophoto

2006-02-17 Thread Derby Chang
An interesting exercise. Take two stuffed dodo models off to Mauritius, photograph them in their natural setting, and stitch multiple shots together. Strangely unsettling. http://www.slate.com/id/2136049/?nav=ais D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc

Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-17 Thread Kevin Waterson
This one time, at band camp, Mishka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marx was communist. Ergo, Hitler was communist (!) Invocation of Godwins Law Kevin -- Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.

Re: Pentax Pre PMA announcment.

2006-02-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
Gosh, someone better tell the magazines I shoot for and the stock house that sels my pics that six megapixels isn't good enough. They have hundreds of my images that are working just fine for them. How could that be? Paul On Feb 17, 2006, at 4:13 AM, John Forbes wrote: On Fri, 17 Feb 2006

Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-17 Thread Bob Shell
On Feb 16, 2006, at 6:25 PM, Tom C wrote: Interesting poem and unfortunately true. It's much better heard in the rich voice of Bill Buckley. He recorded it in San Francisco on Lincoln's birthday in 1950. Unfortunately God is often blamed for what followers do in his name. Not by

Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-17 Thread Bob Shell
On Feb 16, 2006, at 6:32 PM, John Forbes wrote: Thank you, Bob. I hadn't read this before. Very apposite. John For those unfamiliar with him, Bill Buckley, better known by his stage persona Lord Buckley, was a great hip talk comedian of the 40s and 50s. His comedy was always gentle,

Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-17 Thread Bob Shell
On Feb 16, 2006, at 6:47 PM, William Robb wrote: Interesting poem and unfortunately true. Unfortunately God is often blamed for what followers do in his name. Apparently, so is Mohammed. That is actually irrelevant to the issue of whether God exists or not. I'm pretty sure Mohammed

Re: Pentax Pre PMA announcment.

2006-02-17 Thread Bob Shell
On Feb 16, 2006, at 7:45 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: The business of buying and selling cameras and photographic equipment is quite different from photography. Who sells these items and how they make money are mostly irrelevant to photography. Absolutely. The guys running the companies

Re: Another stacked set

2006-02-17 Thread Don Williams
In case anyone is interested I have a directory full of photomicrography here: http://www.science-info.org/pages/edfwill/ The videos in 'AVI' and the high resolution in 'AP' might be interesting. The AP images were taken at the limit of resolution for light microscopy with visible light.

Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-17 Thread Bob Shell
On Feb 16, 2006, at 7:49 PM, Tom C wrote: Actually I disagree on that, though you are surely entitled to your belief/unbelief. :-) If I believe something exists, that does not mean I am right and it exists. It may indeed, not exist. On the other hand, if I don't believe something

Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-17 Thread Bob Shell
On Feb 16, 2006, at 7:34 PM, Kevin Waterson wrote: But we do not all live in the same world. If I dont believe something exists, then in my world, my reality, it does not. If I believe something does not exist in my world, then it does not. If this is contrary to your reality it does not

Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-17 Thread Bob Shell
On Feb 16, 2006, at 8:31 PM, Collin R Brendemuehl wrote: 1 + 1 = 2 You're free to believe 1 + 1 = 3 That may be your subjective reality, but it's not objective reality. Kevin's point is that there is no such thing as objective reality. The universe is probabilities. It is highly

Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-17 Thread Mishka
it's not applicable here -- somebody should *compare* something/one else to nazis/Hitler. a mere mentioning of Hitler doesn't count, i'm afraid. best, mishka On 2/17/06, Kevin Waterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This one time, at band camp, Mishka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marx was communist.

Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-17 Thread Don Williams
I don't believe you can apply 'probability theory' to real numbers. Don Bob Shell wrote: On Feb 16, 2006, at 8:31 PM, Collin R Brendemuehl wrote: 1 + 1 = 2 You're free to believe 1 + 1 = 3 That may be your subjective reality, but it's not objective reality. Kevin's point is that there

Re: OT Religion, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-17 Thread Bob Shell
On Feb 17, 2006, at 12:45 AM, Tom C wrote: Film is dead. WW I contend that film was never alive. Where does that leave us? Tom C. Calves ears? Bob

Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-17 Thread Mishka
Bob, The concept of number is quite abstract, well defined and unrelated to modern or any other kind of physics. Basically, 1+1 is 2 because 1 and 2 are defined that way. When I said 1+1=10, I meant binary representation. The joke of large values of 1 is a joke on physicists best, mishka On

Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-17 Thread Bob Shell
On Feb 17, 2006, at 3:42 AM, John Forbes wrote: However, that still leaves us with no answer to the question of how the universe began. Those who believe in a god can sidestep that question, which is very convenient for them. Thinking that the universe must have a beginning is a very

Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-17 Thread Bob Shell
On Feb 17, 2006, at 3:47 AM, Bob W wrote: OK, I see what you mean. However I don't think it works, for at least 2 reasons. First, the holy books are all written by people and there's no reason to think that those people had any special insight into the nature of their god that other

Re: Pentax Pre PMA announcment.

2006-02-17 Thread Rob Studdert
On 17 Feb 2006 at 6:23, Paul Stenquist wrote: Gosh, someone better tell the magazines I shoot for and the stock house that sels my pics that six megapixels isn't good enough. They have hundreds of my images that are working just fine for them. How could that be? There's no need to be

Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-17 Thread dagt
fra: Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Feb 17, 2006, at 3:42 AM, John Forbes wrote: However, that still leaves us with no answer to the question of how the universe began. Those who believe in a god can sidestep that question, which is very convenient for them. Thinking that the

Re: Heron In The Field

2006-02-17 Thread Bob Sullivan
Looking for field mice? Nice photo... Regards, Bob S. On 2/17/06, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very nice - quite sharp for F.6.7. Why do you shoot a 400mm handheld at 200ASA? I'd use a monopod, I think. What is LBA? Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig

Re: Pentax Pre PMA announcment.

2006-02-17 Thread dagt
fra: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 17 Feb 2006 at 6:23, Paul Stenquist wrote: Gosh, someone better tell the magazines I shoot for and the stock house that sels my pics that six megapixels isn't good enough. They have hundreds of my images that are working just fine for them. How

Re: Pentax Pre PMA announcment.

2006-02-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
Given the bitingly sarcastic negativity that typifies many Pentax critiques posted here, there is a need to be condescending. The post implied that the Pentax cameras are inadequate photographic tools. Not only are the 6 megapixel images very acceptable to the stock house and pubs for which I

Australians should be able to reach my web site now

2006-02-17 Thread Mark Roberts
...not that it's necessarily a *good* thing ;-) But I'd appreciate it if any PDMLers from down under who have had trouble accessing my web site or sending me email wouold give it another try when they have time (and let me know how it works out). My hosting service thinks it's all worked out now

Re: Interesting marketing

2006-02-17 Thread Mark Roberts
mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 16/2/06, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Want me to have a look around Pittsburgh's record shops? If you believe in miracles That song's not by Jefferson

Re: Australians should be able to reach my web site now

2006-02-17 Thread Rob Studdert
On 17 Feb 2006 at 7:37, Mark Roberts wrote: ...not that it's necessarily a *good* thing ;-) But I'd appreciate it if any PDMLers from down under who have had trouble accessing my web site or sending me email wouold give it another try when they have time (and let me know how it works out). My

Re: Pentax Pre PMA announcment.

2006-02-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
Of course the adequacy of six megapixel images for many types of work is dependent on shooting RAW and converting to high resolution with good tools. On Feb 17, 2006, at 7:30 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Given the bitingly sarcastic negativity that typifies many Pentax critiques posted here,

Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-17 Thread Bob Shell
On Feb 17, 2006, at 7:02 AM, Don Williams wrote: I don't believe you can apply 'probability theory' to real numbers. Don Sez who? Bob

Re: Pentax Pre PMA announcment.

2006-02-17 Thread Rob Studdert
On 17 Feb 2006 at 7:30, Paul Stenquist wrote: Given the bitingly sarcastic negativity that typifies many Pentax critiques posted here, there is a need to be condescending. The post implied that the Pentax cameras are inadequate photographic tools. Not only are the 6 megapixel images very

Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-17 Thread Bob Shell
On Feb 17, 2006, at 7:23 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It reminds me of a story about Steven Hawkin (maybe from his book, a breif history of time?). He was invited to a conference on cosmology in the Vatican, and being liberal the Pope had stated that they could discuss anything except

Re: Pentax Pre PMA announcment.

2006-02-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
What is the size requirement of the stock house to which you refer? You can convert to six megapixel image to a nice 72 meg, 8 bit file in the PSCS RAW converter. No stock house I've contacted wants images larger than that. The Hearst and Primedia photo editors I've worked with prefer them at

Re: Pentax Pre PMA announcment.

2006-02-17 Thread Rob Studdert
On 17 Feb 2006 at 7:37, Paul Stenquist wrote: Of course the adequacy of six megapixel images for many types of work is dependent on shooting RAW and converting to high resolution with good tools. Sorry I just really hate being told what's good for me. Like the jerks who can't understand

Re: Pentax Pre PMA announcment.

2006-02-17 Thread dagt
And there's a big difference between 6MP from a dslr and 6MP from a compact. DagT fra: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] dato: 2006/02/17 fr PM 01:37:41 CET til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net emne: Re: Pentax Pre PMA announcment. Of course the adequacy of six megapixel images for many types of

Poll: Best Photo Ever

2006-02-17 Thread frank theriault
My Anti-Valentines day post the other day got me thinking (a rare occurance to be sure). There, I posted this photo: http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5806/2203/1600/haley.jpg which happens to be my favourite photo of mine. It's a close race, actually, because until I took that one a couple

Re: Pentax Pre PMA announcment.

2006-02-17 Thread dagt
I don't remember the exact numbers, but in the beginning the requirement was about A4 format (21x30cm) with 300dpi printing. The numbers you mention here looks like the same range that she is able to do now, but she uses another program specially made for the purpose. I have all these names

RE: Religion, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-17 Thread Jens Bladt
Hitler was a fascist, promoting himself by the means of - partly - socialistic/communistic ideas. Hitler tried to eradicate the Jews. Stalin was a fascist promoting himself by the means of socialistic/communistic ideas. Stalin tried to eradicate the socialists/communists and any other group of

Re: Religon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-17 Thread E.R.N. Reed
John Forbes wrote: On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 03:41:10 -, E.R.N. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Forbes wrote: On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 23:58:24 -, E.R.N. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I only know of one religion whose followers behave like that. I think I know a lot of the followers

Re: Australians should be able to reach my web site now

2006-02-17 Thread David Savage
I've never had any problems. Dave On 2/17/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...not that it's necessarily a *good* thing ;-) But I'd appreciate it if any PDMLers from down under who have had trouble accessing my web site or sending me email wouold give it another try when they have

Re: Pentax Pre PMA announcment.

2006-02-17 Thread Rob Studdert
On 17 Feb 2006 at 7:44, Paul Stenquist wrote: What is the size requirement of the stock house to which you refer? You can convert to six megapixel image to a nice 72 meg, 8 bit file in the PSCS RAW converter. No stock house I've contacted wants images larger than that. The Hearst and

Re: Religon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-17 Thread E.R.N. Reed
John Forbes wrote: On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 09:09:00 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: fra: Kevin Waterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] This one time, at band camp, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is actually irrelevant to the issue of whether God exists or not. This is a simple one. If you believe

Re: Phot related.Digital IRcamera conversion site

2006-02-17 Thread Mark Roberts
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey troops. A member on the Nikon BB i go to posted this the other day. Discussing digital IR the last few days. http://www.lifepixel.com These people also do the conversions: http://www.maxmax.com/ See also

RE: Poll: Best Photo Ever

2006-02-17 Thread Jens Bladt
Very nice shots, Frank. I believe photography is about capturing the moment (as do you, as far as I can tell). This is why I think the best photo ever (my favorite) is actually a painting: Hip, Hip, Hurra by P.S. Krøyer (was made from the painters memory - and from his photographs):

Re: Poll: Best Photo Ever

2006-02-17 Thread Jostein
Tough one, Frank! I'll have to think about it for a while. On one hand, an old shot still liked has proven its qualities by remaining a favourite, but it's not necessarily representative for a photographer's present style and interests. On the other hand, it's dangerous to choose a recent

Re: Phot related.Digital IRcamera conversion site

2006-02-17 Thread Rob Studdert
On 17 Feb 2006 at 8:22, Mark Roberts wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey troops. A member on the Nikon BB i go to posted this the other day. Discussing digital IR the last few days. http://www.lifepixel.com These people also do the conversions:

RE: Poll: Best Photo Ever

2006-02-17 Thread Jostein
The Skagen painters are a great resource for studying photography. I've always thought of them as a resource for seeing how light falls on a landscape, but you're right about the condensed mood and sense of having captured a moment in this picture. Jostein Quoting Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Re: Re: Religon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-17 Thread dagt
fra: E.R.N. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] John Forbes wrote: On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 09:09:00 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But what then if you don't believe in a god, but also accepts that you may be wrong. And you end up ingoring the matter because it doesn't affect you life any

Re: Poll: Best Photo Ever

2006-02-17 Thread David Savage
This is my favorite shot online: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_008.htm Dave On 2/17/06, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Anti-Valentines day post the other day got me thinking (a rare occurance to be sure). There, I posted this photo:

RE: PESO: Frozen Pond, color corrected

2006-02-17 Thread Rick Womer
Amazing. I sent my message Tuesday evening, and it showed up on the list today (though it was in the archives on Wednesday morning--go figure!). --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes it is! Tom C. From: Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To:

Re: Religion, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-17 Thread E.R.N. Reed
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: fra: E.R.N. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] John Forbes wrote: On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 09:09:00 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But what then if you don't believe in a god, but also accepts that you may be wrong. And you end up ingoring the matter because it

Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-17 Thread Don Williams
I do. And so do a lot of others. Numbers are man made and don't 'observe' the laws of physics. Numbers (labels) and mathematics (a language) are man made and obey specific rules. 1 will always be 1. But 1 (something) may have any value you like and be equal to 2 (something else). But 1 egg

Re: Digital Gem

2006-02-17 Thread Lon Williamson
I've tried the lot: GEM, SHO, ROC, and GEMAirBrush. From what I can tell, GEM is a little agressive at default settings for grain removal when compared to NoiseNinja, NeatImage, or GrainSurgery (the last is my favorite for film). SHO may do something that a curves adjustment doesn't do for

Re: Poll: Best Photo Ever

2006-02-17 Thread dagt
An almost impossible question to answer, but right now I think this is it: http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=144899 It represents a rare combination of two of my favorite themes, silence and the kids, and it still makes me remember that clear summer morning. Other days it

Re: Religon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-17 Thread E.R.N. Reed
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: fra: E.R.N. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] John Forbes wrote: On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 09:09:00 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But what then if you don't believe in a god, but also accepts that you may be wrong. And you end up ingoring the matter because it

Re: Interesting marketing

2006-02-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Jens Bladt Subject: SV: Interesting marketing Why do sales people hate Pentax? I could never figure that out. I guess they get paid less?? It's not that they hate Pentax, it's more that the Nikons and Canons have more market appeal. These are the brands

Re: Religon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: E.R.N. Reed Subject: Re: Religon, Christ vs. the Other Guy But here's another way to look at relative numbers -- there are still more people in the world who aren't Moslem than people who are, and yet the suicide-bombers (i.e., people blowing

Re: Dodophoto

2006-02-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Derby Chang Subject: Dodophoto An interesting exercise. Take two stuffed dodo models off to Mauritius, photograph them in their natural setting, and stitch multiple shots together. Strangely unsettling. http://www.slate.com/id/2136049/?nav=ais For

Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Don Williams Subject: Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy I don't believe you can apply 'probability theory' to real numbers. Mathmatics is an invention of man. Man made rules are applied to it. William Robb

Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bob Shell Subject: Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy I know The Buddha existed. I've seen his tomb in three different countries. Travel does pay dividends. It's good to broaden ones horizons. William Robb

Re: Heron In The Field

2006-02-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Jay Taylor Subject: Heron In The Field http://i.pbase.com/g3/87/63987/2/56113299.GBHinField.jpg Nothing wrong with the composition, but youve ruined the bokeh with post processing. William Robb

Re: Religon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: E.R.N. Reed Subject: Re: Religon, Christ vs. the Other Guy No. Those who believe in a God can *answer* the question, not sidestep it. Throughout human history, more rational people have believed in God, or gods, than haven't. In all cultures. I am not

Re: Pentax Pre PMA announcment.

2006-02-17 Thread Shel Belinkoff
At the last NorCal get together that I attended, Bruce showed one of his photos made with the istD blown up to 16x20, or some other such large size. Larger than the 13x19 or so which a lot of people print at. The print was soft, and Bruce admitted so. It didn't look bad from a distance, but it

Re: Poll: Best Photo Ever

2006-02-17 Thread Niko Koskela
Tough question indeed. But i also think about it sometimes... I think Jostein is so right saying: On the other hand, it's dangerous to choose a recent shot, in case it's just a short-lived flame. Anyway, currently my favourite shot of mine is this one from last summer:

Re: Heron In The Field

2006-02-17 Thread Jack Davis
I like the focus isolation of the aperture used. Nice image! Jack --- Jay Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure what this one was searching for in the middle of a grass field; a rodent maybe? I always thought they did most of their hunting around the shorlines. This one was a good half

Re: Pentax Pre PMA announcment.

2006-02-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: Pentax Pre PMA announcment. At the last NorCal get together that I attended, Bruce showed one of his photos made with the istD blown up to 16x20, or some other such large size. Larger than the 13x19 or so which a lot of people

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-17 Thread Lon Williamson
How often does the beer win? frank theriault wrote, in part: Do we get to have beer? I do my best arguing with beer.

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