RE: Full frame lenses and the K10D, CA anyone?

2007-04-14 Thread J. C. O'Connell
IS THIS A 100% CROP AND WHAT PART OF THE FRAME WAS IT TAKEN FROM? CENTER/EDGE/CORNER? JCO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brendan MacRae Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 12:53 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: Full frame lenses

RE: Please unenable me!

2007-04-14 Thread Bob W
You need 2 - you have to have a backup. Or use one for colour pixels and the other for black white pixels. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Juan Buhler Sent: 14 April 2007 01:34 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject:

Re: Interesting...

2007-04-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
It's just differences in how the cards format. Much like two different hard drives of the same nominal capacity, you'll often seen a couple meg difference in their formatted capacity. Godfrey On Apr 13, 2007, at 10:04 PM, Juan Buhler wrote: The only SD card I was using with the K10D was a

Re: Please unenable me!

2007-04-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
If you have the money and can afford it, why not? Especially if you have lenses that you can use on it. If I still had my Leica M lenses, I'd have done something to get one. But I sold all that stuff off in 2002 and find I'm happier with the SLR camera. G On Apr 13, 2007, at 5:33 PM, Juan

RE: Full frame lenses and the K10D, CA anyone?

2007-04-14 Thread Brendan MacRae
It's a 100% crop from nearly the dead center of the image. -Brendan --- J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IS THIS A 100% CROP AND WHAT PART OF THE FRAME WAS IT TAKEN FROM? CENTER/EDGE/CORNER? JCO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: converting a M42 lens to PK mount?

2007-04-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/4/07, Digital Image Studio, discombobulated, unleashed: MIG welder, now we're talking, beat that for butcherous Cotty :-) I can go one better. If JCO gets some of that stubbornness and fits it to the threads of the lens, it should stay stuck in it's ways for all of time! (JCO's posts go

Re: Full frame lenses and the K10D, CA anyone?

2007-04-14 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 14/04/07, Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a 100% crop from nearly the dead center of the image. Interesting, that means that it's not the normal transverse chromatic aberration that becomes more visible as you move towards the edge of the image but is likely longitudinal

Re: Pixel peeping and looking for defects (was Re: Full frame lenses and the K10D, CA anyone?)

2007-04-14 Thread Cotty
On 13/4/07, Mark Erickson, discombobulated, unleashed: Brendan's post and the response bring up an interesting issue that seems to increasingly dominate the digital photography world--pixel peeping and hunting for defects. It is easy to zoom up to 200% and tear apart an image, but how much of

Re: Full frame lenses and the K10D, CA anyone?

2007-04-14 Thread Brendan MacRae
--- Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 14/04/07, Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a 100% crop from nearly the dead center of the image. Interesting, that means that it's not the normal transverse chromatic aberration that becomes more visible as you move

Re: Please unenable me!

2007-04-14 Thread Cotty
On 13/4/07, Juan Buhler, discombobulated, unleashed: Please, help me save $5000 and stay on the Pentax side... Or, help me rationalize this crazy purchase :) Don't rationalise - follow your heart. I'd love one. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|

Re: Full frame lenses and the K10D, CA anyone?

2007-04-14 Thread David Savage
At 03:24 PM 14/04/2007, Brendan MacRae wrote: --- Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 14/04/07, Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a 100% crop from nearly the dead center of the image. Interesting, that means that it's not the normal transverse chromatic

Re: Interesting...

2007-04-14 Thread Thibouille
Very common. Same goes for hard drives. Manufacturer sell devices with capacity calculated as if (only marketting purpose of course) 1GB was 1000 MB, 1MB = 1000KB and 1 KB = 1000 Bytes which of course wrong (1024, not 1000). Add on top of that that some device do not have exactly the same

Re: PESO - Dusk

2007-04-14 Thread Alastair Robertson
Thanks Bruce and Russell On 4/14/07, Russell Kerstetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: very nice moody photo, nice conversion too. Russ On 4/12/07, Alastair Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi http://www.pbase.com/kiwibiologist/image/77040452 another from the same beach as Dog's on

Re: Full frame lenses and the K10D, CA anyone?

2007-04-14 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 14/04/07, Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, ACR is completely ineffectual with this one. Some of the Photoshop tips I've seen can make a dent...but not enough of one. The answer is get some decent APO lenses I guess, this is exactly the reason that my V125/2.5 is so much more

RE: Please unenable me!

2007-04-14 Thread Jens Bladt
There is no easy way around this - the Leica M8 IS a lovely camera.? But it's not for the same work as a Pentax DSLR. Can you imagine shooting soccer game (with a 170-500mm zoom) with a M8? I think Lieca is for (rich) people who occationally take pictures, while travelling, on business trips,

Re: Interesting...

2007-04-14 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 14/04/07, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very common. Same goes for hard drives. Manufacturer sell devices with capacity calculated as if (only marketting purpose of course) 1GB was 1000 MB, 1MB = 1000KB and 1 KB = 1000 Bytes which of course wrong (1024, not 1000). Add on top of that

RE: Please unenable me!

2007-04-14 Thread Bob W
I think Lieca is for (rich) people who occationally take pictures, while travelling, on business trips, a walk in the park etc. [...] life. People buy an M8 for the same resons you buy a Porche, Ferrari or BMW. Take your Pentax to the ballgame, the beach, the hike, anywhere you go - to

Re: Please unenable me!

2007-04-14 Thread Carlos Royo
Juan Buhler escribió: As some of you know, I've been missing my Leica rangefinder since I returned to Pentax in 2004 with an istD. Now, I wasn't really thinking seriously about buying an M8 until today, when two things happened: I realized I'm getting a nice tax refund that I wasn't

Re: Please unenable me!

2007-04-14 Thread Juan Buhler
On 4/14/07, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well said! This is the kind of rich know-nothing idiot who uses Leicas: http://www.npr.org/programs/morning/features/2003/jul/cbresson/corbis/ cbresson_ut0143043.jpg Bah. That guy looks like a painter, actually. I'd much rather look like this one:

Re: Please unenable me!

2007-04-14 Thread Sandy Harris
Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do have an M6, with a Summicron 50, a Voigtlander 28/3.5, and a Jupiter 35/2.8. And I still use it, lately I've been shooting color film with it so I can have almost the same bw workflow as I use with digital. The M6 is the camera I 'learned' to do

Re: Interesting...

2007-04-14 Thread David Mann
On Apr 14, 2007, at 7:36 PM, Thibouille wrote: Very common. Same goes for hard drives. Manufacturer sell devices with capacity calculated as if (only marketting purpose of course) 1GB was 1000 MB, 1MB = 1000KB and 1 KB = 1000 Bytes which of course wrong (1024, not 1000). To be pedantic, SI

Re: Please unenable me!

2007-04-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/4/07, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: Well said! This is the kind of rich know-nothing idiot who uses Leicas: http://www.npr.org/programs/morning/features/2003/jul/cbresson/corbis/ cbresson_ut0143043.jpg Yeah, he's crap isn't he. Juan, if you really want to be this sort of person,

Re: Full frame lenses and the K10D, CA anyone?

2007-04-14 Thread Jan van Wijk
On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 17:18:32 +1000, Digital Image Studio wrote: On 14/04/07, Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a 100% crop from nearly the dead center of the image. Interesting, that means that it's not the normal transverse chromatic aberration that becomes more visible as you move

RE: Please unenable me!

2007-04-14 Thread Bob W
On 4/14/07, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well said! This is the kind of rich know-nothing idiot who uses Leicas: http://www.npr.org/programs/morning/features/2003/jul/cbresson/corbis/ cbresson_ut0143043.jpg Bah. That guy looks like a painter, actually. I'd much rather look

Re: Interesting...

2007-04-14 Thread Thibouille
Well you don't know how manufacturers obtain card of said capacity. If for a 2GB card you need 4 512KB chips you may loose capacity in this way. (may because really I'm guessing here). Better card will use only one device but I don't think speaking in volume, that most cards are made from only one

Re: Interesting...

2007-04-14 Thread Thibouille
Sure, on a physical pointof view but computers do not use and address data this way so at best their specifications are misleading. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Pixel peeping and looking for defects (was Re: Full frame lenses and the K10D, CA anyone?)

2007-04-14 Thread Tom Simpson
It occurs to me that if you push film as hard as the militant pixel peepers push these digital images, they start to show defects as well, graininess being foremost among them. And surprise, surprise, you get more grain when you go to higher ISO film. Seems like there is a lot of

Re: Interesting...

2007-04-14 Thread Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu
On 4/14/07, David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 14, 2007, at 7:36 PM, Thibouille wrote: Very common. Same goes for hard drives. Manufacturer sell devices with capacity calculated as if (only marketting purpose of course) 1GB was 1000 MB, 1MB = 1000KB and 1 KB = 1000 Bytes which of

Domke F-803 for Frits (was - Re: Enablement: bag and cutter)

2007-04-14 Thread Cotty
On 2/4/07, Frits Wüthrich, discombobulated, unleashed: The default insert that comes with this bag, is that sufficient to store all your equipment into the bag? Could you share a photo showing how it is stored in your bag? The inserts on the website of Domke are just cryptic drawings. Thanks

Re: PESO: Columns in Black and White

2007-04-14 Thread Brian Walters
Thanks Boris. I'll try for some different perspectives on this building next time I'm in Sydney. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia Quoting Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Good rhythm. But somehow I want a wider view. Boris

RE: Please unenable me!

2007-04-14 Thread Tim Øsleby
I think I prefer Kennyboy. He can turn his cap around when it is in the way. The other guy doesn't seem to be able to look into his camera because of his stiff upper lip. Tim Typo Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: Please unenable me!

2007-04-14 Thread Mark Roberts
Seriously lovely camera, but overpriced even by Leica standards. Your photographic efforts would be served much better if your $5000 (plus whatever lenses cost) were spent elsewhere. Even a trip somewhere interesting to shoot photos. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Pixel peeping and looking for defects (was Re: Full frame lenses and

2007-04-14 Thread Mark Roberts
Mark Erickson wrote: snip Right on. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

RE: Full frame lenses and the K10D, CA anyone?

2007-04-14 Thread J. C. O'Connell
then its definately NOT CA. CA presents itself as a difference in magnification of the R/G/B images but when you look at the center this difference is nearly zero even with HUGE CA in a lens. What that is, I dont know, but it cant be CA because if it was, there would be an impossibly large

RE: Pixel peeping and looking for defects (was Re: Full frame lensesand the K10D, CA anyone?)

2007-04-14 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Tom's comments only apply to **35MM** film vs current DSLRS, if you go bigger, film still rules because you can eliminate the problems of **35mm film** while still maintaining its advantages like greater dynamic range and resolution. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Full frame lenses and the K10D, CA anyone?

2007-04-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
I only use the clone tool for a bit of final cleanup. I use replace color as the principal tool. I find this better than desaturating alone, because I can match it exactly to the background. You simply choose the color of the fringe with the eyedropper. Go to replace color. Set fuzziness

Re: Pixel peeping and looking for defects (was Re: Full frame lenses and the K10D, CA anyone?)

2007-04-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
I agree. We've become paranoid about every little defect. With film, we couldn't fix 'em, so we didn't worry. I refuse to agonize over minutiae. The only time I have problems with fringing is in the case you mentioned below: Backlit tree branches in winter. Ditto for backlit birds against

OT I'm back

2007-04-14 Thread David J Brooks
Hey all. Hope everyone was good. Looks like abit of mail to sift through. Arrived back from Vegas. LATE last night. The four of us had a great time. Liz even liked the Valley of Fire photo tour, i had to talk her into going on. That was my hi lite of the trip. Thanks again Ken for the tip. I

Re: Full frame lenses and the K10D, CA anyone?

2007-04-14 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 14/04/07, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: then its definately NOT CA. CA presents itself as a difference in magnification of the R/G/B images but when you look at the center this difference is nearly zero even with HUGE CA in a lens. What that is, I dont know, but it cant be CA

Re: Pixel peeping and looking for defects (was Re: Full frame lenses and the K10D, CA anyone?)

2007-04-14 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 14/04/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree. We've become paranoid about every little defect. With film, we couldn't fix 'em, so we didn't worry. I refuse to agonize over minutiae. The only time I have problems with fringing is in the case you mentioned below: Backlit tree

Re: Pixel peeping and looking for defects (was Re: Full frame lenses and the K10D, CA anyone?)

2007-04-14 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 14/04/07, Tom Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It occurs to me that if you push film as hard as the militant pixel peepers push these digital images, they start to show defects as well, graininess being foremost among them. And surprise, surprise, you get more grain when you go to higher

Re: Pixel peeping and looking for defects (was Re: Full frame lensesand the K10D, CA anyone?)

2007-04-14 Thread Tom Simpson
Very true. For the foreseeable future, a bigger piece of film is always going to beat out a smaller sensor in terms of absolute IQ, DR, etc. However, the bigger the piece of film ,the greater the attendant PITA factor for working with it, and the greater cost. Part of me wants to get into

Re: converting a M42 lens to PK mount?

2007-04-14 Thread P. J. Alling
If the flange isn't wide enough you won't be able to modify the lens to lock onto the camera body. There can be other mechanical problems as you have also mentioned. J. C. O'Connell wrote: thanks for the tip. It looks like this lens won't work ( mamiya 55mm F1.8) because the hole that would

Re: Full frame lenses and the K10D, CA anyone?

2007-04-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
That's fringing, and the CA tool won't fix it. It took me about three minutes to fix it in PhotoShop. I selected the problem areas, because the red matched the color of his lips. I then used replace color to replace the red with the background color and touched up with the clone tool.

Re: Interesting...

2007-04-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
I get the same results, but my Sandisk cards are Extreme III. I guess the Transcend actually has a little more memory. On Apr 14, 2007, at 1:04 AM, Juan Buhler wrote: The only SD card I was using with the K10D was a Sandisk Ultra II 2GB. When in RAW (PEF) mode, with the card just formatted,

Re: PESO: Pecker

2007-04-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
Actually, there was a considerable amount of fringing here. I removed the worst of it. But this lens combination is particularly prone to that. If Ken would just loan me his FA 600/4, I could probably solve the problem :-). Paul On Apr 14, 2007, at 1:07 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: This is

Re: PESO: Reader

2007-04-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Boris. I had planned to buy either a DA 70 or an FA 77 until I was laid off. But I would miss being able to dial in a focal length in this situation. To grab these portrait shots I position myself in a chair with the camera in my lap. I drink coffee, read the paper, and study the

Re: Please unenable me!

2007-04-14 Thread P. J. Alling
You have to warn us when you're going to post something like that. I damn near ruined my keyboard spraying coffee all over it... Juan Buhler wrote: On 4/14/07, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well said! This is the kind of rich know-nothing idiot who uses Leicas:

Re: Full frame lenses and the K10D, CA anyone?

2007-04-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
Then it's almost certainly fringing. And if it was a RAW shot and the CA correction in ACR didn't help, it's definitely fringing. Paul On Apr 14, 2007, at 3:04 AM, Brendan MacRae wrote: It's a 100% crop from nearly the dead center of the image. -Brendan --- J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL

Re: Full frame lenses and the K10D, CA anyone?

2007-04-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
Both fringing and CA can look the same. The only way to tell the difference is to try the CA correction in ACR. If the color can't be altered, then it's fringing. I find that nine times out of ten, it's fringing when shooting digital. Paul On Apr 14, 2007, at 1:39 AM, Digital Image Studio

RE: converting a M42 lens to PK mount?

2007-04-14 Thread Cory Papenfuss
thanks for the tip. It looks like this lens won't work ( mamiya 55mm F1.8) because the hole that would need to be drilled in the lens's flange would be interfering with the lens's aperture setting ring movement. drats! Seems like you said, this can only be done on M42 lenses that have large

Re: PESO: Reader

2007-04-14 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/13/2007 8:03:20 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5845273 Nice shot, good light. I find his mouth sort of odd, but have concluded he was blowing out smoke. Marnie aka Doe :-)

Re: Pixel peeping and looking for defects (was Re: Full frame lenses and the K10D, CA anyone?)

2007-04-14 Thread George Sinos
Brendan - I've always felt that Photoshop was not a photographer's tool. I started with Picture Window Pro and moved to Photoshop when I needed to do raw conversion. I've read the latest version of Picture Window Pro handles batches of files and does raw conversion and I'm considering moving

Re: PESO - Yosemite Color (Redux - Real Photo)

2007-04-14 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/13/2007 10:08:31 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Typical Yosemite color anyway, this time unartified, unmucked with. If you think I should bring up the shadows more, just say so.

Re: PESO: Pecker

2007-04-14 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/13/2007 8:24:39 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Enough light today to shoot some birds with my f11 rig. K10D, A 400/5.6, A2X-S converter and the Kirk Flash Xtender on the Pentax 540. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5845294size=lg

Nikon to EOS adapter ready

2007-04-14 Thread Bob Shell
As many of you know, I've manufactured an adapter that allows use of Contax/Zeiss manual-focus SLR lenses on Canon EOS cameras for more than five years. I've had numerous requests for an adapter to allow the use of Nikon SLR lenses on EOS cameras. Initially, I wasn't very interested in

Re: PESO: Pecker

2007-04-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Marnie. On Apr 14, 2007, at 9:42 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 4/13/2007 8:24:39 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Enough light today to shoot some birds with my f11 rig. K10D, A 400/5.6, A2X-S converter and the Kirk Flash Xtender on the Pentax

Re: PESO -- Church Tower, Near Wooster Square

2007-04-14 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/13/2007 5:32:19 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I decided to take Marnie's advice and lighten the tower a bit. I'm not sure this works as well thought I was able to get more detail, (and apparent sharpness), out of the stone work. In the color

Re: Please unenable me!

2007-04-14 Thread Paul
life. People buy an M8 for the same resons you buy a Porche, Ferrari or BMW. Take your Pentax to the ballgame, the beach, the hike, anywhere you go - to take pictures. The SLR/DSLR is the choise of photographers. People buy a DSLR to take pictures. Well said! This is the kind of

RE: Full frame lenses and the K10D, CA anyone?

2007-04-14 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Nope,if there would be that much CA of **either** type, right in the center of ANY lens, the amount you would see in the edges or corners in same image would be absolutely horrendous and no commercial lenses are/were ever that bad. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Pixel peeping and looking for defects (was Re: Fullframe lensesand the K10D, CA anyone?)

2007-04-14 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Digital SLRS/photography is also a pain in the ass in some KEY ways. For good quality, you still have to process your RAW images. This is digital's dirty little secret. I say its actually much easier to go shoot some color film, drop it off at a lab, and get nicely exposed, sharp prints. No, its

RE: converting a M42 lens to PK mount?

2007-04-14 Thread J. C. O'Connell
yes, I mounted lens on the camera to check, these mamiya SX lenses ( excellent optically ) have big outer aperture rings near the flange and this ring is in the spot where the pin hole would need to drilled so it wont work because it wouldnt lock or the aperture ring wouldnt be able to be turned

Re: Please unenable me!

2007-04-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Thinking a little more on this and reading the sentiments posted after mine ... I know a lot of Leica owners. Many are wealthy lawyers and doctors who hobby in photography, that's true. But many are also very talented and passionate photographers who use their Leica equipment, much as I

Re: Pixel peeping and looking for defects (was Re: Fullframe lensesand the K10D, CA anyone?)

2007-04-14 Thread David Savage
Personally I always liked the darkroom aspect of photography. And the digital equivalent is no different. Cheers, Dave On 4/14/07, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Digital SLRS/photography is also a pain in the ass in some KEY ways. For good quality, you still have to process your

RE: Pixel peeping and looking for defects (was Re: Fullframelensesand the K10D, CA anyone?)

2007-04-14 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I don't completely agree. Sure it's fun to tweek an occasional really favorite image to perfection, but when you have to do dozens, hundreds, thousands of them it just gets old pretty quick. I know when I now shoot a 2GB card of RAW (about 180 images ) , I dread having to do all the image

Re: Pixel peeping and looking for defects (was Re: Fullframe lensesand the K10D, CA anyone?)

2007-04-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
Agreed. It's even more fun in some ways. No chemical odors wafting from the computer. Paul On Apr 14, 2007, at 10:42 AM, David Savage wrote: Personally I always liked the darkroom aspect of photography. And the digital equivalent is no different. Cheers, Dave On 4/14/07, J. C.

Re: PESO - A Chilly Afternoon

2007-04-14 Thread Russell Kerstetter
Thanks Boris. The height is just right for me so that I can view it without scrolling, on my macbook. Maybe I will have to go to the small/large method... but that won't be for a while. Russ On 4/13/07, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Russel, there you go: 1) good, very good 2) not

Re: Please unenable me!

2007-04-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
Even the diehard Leica shooters are a bit unhappy with the M8. I think that is the sentiment that is reflected in most of these comments. It has nothing to do with envy or bigotry. If I were looking for a Leica digital, I would wait for the next version. And if I could afford one, I would

RE: Pixel peeping and looking for defects (was Re: Fullframelensesand the K10D, CA anyone?)

2007-04-14 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Wanna do all of mine for me? See how fun that is? I always liked darkroom for the control you couldnt get in a lab like custom cropping, but with RAw you have to do a lot of work just to open, and do basics like levels and sharpness that you got done for you at a lab with basic film processing

Re: Pixel peeping and looking for defects (was Re: Fullframelensesand the K10D, CA anyone?)

2007-04-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
You can shoot jpeg and drop them off at a lab for processing, and some high-end labs now do RAW as well. It's the same equation as before. Those who will settle for someone else's work shoot jpeg and drop the card off at a lab. Those who wish to do their own, shoot RAW. I wouldn't have

Re: Please unenable me!

2007-04-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
Furthermore, look at the subject: Please unenable me! He asked for arguments against a Leica purchase. He got 'em. Paul On Apr 14, 2007, at 10:54 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Even the diehard Leica shooters are a bit unhappy with the M8. I think that is the sentiment that is reflected in most of

Re: Pixel peeping and looking for defects (was Re: Fullframelensesand the K10D, CA anyone?)

2007-04-14 Thread David Savage
On 4/14/07, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't completely agree. Sure it's fun to tweek an occasional really favorite image to perfection, but when you have to do dozens, hundreds, thousands of them it just gets old pretty quick. True. That's when the lab comes in right handy.

Re: Pixel peeping and looking for defects (was Re: Fullframelensesand the K10D, CA anyone?)

2007-04-14 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 15/04/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can shoot jpeg and drop them off at a lab for processing, and some high-end labs now do RAW as well. It's the same equation as before. Those who will settle for someone else's work shoot jpeg and drop the card off at a lab. Those who

Re: Please unenable me!

2007-04-14 Thread Boris Liberman
P. J. Alling wrote: You could have an Epson RD-1 for about half that. More like one fifth, methinks. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

RE: Pixel peeping and looking for defects (was Re: Fullframelensesandthe K10D, CA anyone?)

2007-04-14 Thread J. C. O'Connell
nope, as I just posted, if you shoot jpeg you have to be REAL careful with the exposure or you wont get as good a results as with film and this is even more work than RAW processing is. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist

Re: Pixel peeping and looking for defects (was Re: Full frame lenses and the K10D, CA anyone?)

2007-04-14 Thread Doug Franklin
Tom Simpson wrote: [...] my digital images simply look and print better most anything I have ever taken with film, and are a hell of a lot less labor- intensive and bother to work with. [...] Wow, I can only agree with this. I've never done darkroom wet printing, but I've scanned and printed

Re: Please unenable me!

2007-04-14 Thread David Savage
Going OT: Gmail doesn't seem to like you at times Boris :-) I read these message earlier today from my other email address, and it's just now shown up in my Gmail inbox. 10 hours late. That's the second time this week that's happened to messages from you. Oh well!! Cheers, Dave (Cotty, don't

Re: Pixel peeping and looking for defects (was Re: Fullframelensesandthe K10D, CA anyone?)

2007-04-14 Thread Doug Franklin
J. C. O'Connell wrote: I dont agree that batch RAW processing works as well as individual processing. I have just tried several batch RAW processors and they dont work anywhere near as well as image by image manual processing does ( at least the ones I tried). There are just too many

RE: Pixel peeping and looking for defects (was Re: Fullframelensesandthe K10D, CA anyone?)

2007-04-14 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I dont agree that batch RAW processing works as well as individual processing. I have just tried several batch RAW processors and they dont work anywhere near as well as image by image manual processing does ( at least the ones I tried). There are just too many factors like, exposure, contrast

Re: Please unenable me!

2007-04-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/4/07, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: Gmail doesn't seem to like you at times Boris :-) I read these message earlier today from my other email address, and it's just now shown up in my Gmail inbox. 10 hours late. That's the second time this week that's happened to messages from

Re: Please unenable me!

2007-04-14 Thread graywolf
OK, send you tax return check to me, properly endorsed, and I will guarantee you will not spend it on a Leica Juan gives out the best straight lines on the list. -graywolf Juan Buhler wrote: As some of you know, I've been missing my Leica rangefinder since I returned to Pentax in 2004 with

PESO - High on a Hill

2007-04-14 Thread Eactivist
Just playing around on a Saturday morning... Near me, very near, is a gazebo high on a hill. Well, a foothill. It looks abandoned. There is nothing near it (a building complex below it, but they appear to be completely unconnected) and no path to it. I keep wondering what the story is

RE: Pixel peeping and looking for defects (wasRe: Fullframelensesandthe K10D, CA anyone?)

2007-04-14 Thread J. C. O'Connell
yes of course, you can and should do that when you can, but its not often possible due to factors like changing lenses, changing lighting, different ISOs shot, different macro magnification exposure factors, variable aperture zooms, etc, etc, etc. The reason this was better with film was the

Re: Full frame lenses and the K10D, CA anyone?

2007-04-14 Thread Mark Cassino
Brendan MacRae wrote: What's the deal with film camera lenses and chromatic aberration on the K10D? The K10D sensor seems much more prone to CA than the *ist-D. It's not limited to full frame lenses - I see virtually no CA in my A* 200 or 400, but get moderate CA in the DA 18-55 and

Re: Full frame lenses and the K10D, CA anyone?

2007-04-14 Thread Brendan MacRae
--- David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 03:24 PM 14/04/2007, Brendan MacRae wrote: --- Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 14/04/07, Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a 100% crop from nearly the dead center of the image. Interesting,

Re: Please unenable me!

2007-04-14 Thread David Savage
On 4/14/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 14/4/07, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: Gmail doesn't seem to like you at times Boris :-) I read these message earlier today from my other email address, and it's just now shown up in my Gmail inbox. 10 hours late. That's the second

Re: Full frame lenses and the K10D, CA anyone?

2007-04-14 Thread Brendan MacRae
--- Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 14/04/07, Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, ACR is completely ineffectual with this one. Some of the Photoshop tips I've seen can make a dent...but not enough of one. The answer is get some decent APO lenses I guess,

RE: Full frame lenses and the K10D, CA anyone?

2007-04-14 Thread J. C. O'Connell
FRINGING is not causeed by CA, so getting an APO lens to eliminate CA is not going to help the FRINGING problem. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brendan MacRae Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 12:19 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Full frame lenses and the K10D, CA anyone?

2007-04-14 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 15/04/07, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FRINGING is not causeed by CA, so getting an APO lens to eliminate CA is not going to help the FRINGING problem. APO lenses are precisely designed to minimize longitudinal/axial chromatic aberrations, such a lens may still exhibit some

Re: Full frame lenses and the K10D, CA anyone?

2007-04-14 Thread Brendan MacRae
Yeah, that's a pretty good job, Paul. I understand that my technique is lacking at this point which is why I've been trying every fix I come across. There's A LOT more fringing in this image, however. Plus, there's purple/bluish fringing, as well...making the retouching a doozy. Anyway, at least

RE: Full frame lenses and the K10D, CA anyone?

2007-04-14 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I know what an APO lens is. If the problem, which is FRINGING, not CA, is not caused by CA, then getting an APO lens to minimize or eliminate CA, isnt going help the FRINGING problem at all. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Digital

Re: Pixel peeping and looking for defects (wasRe: Fullframelensesandthe K10D, CA anyone?)

2007-04-14 Thread David Savage
The trick though, is not trying to batch process a whole card of shots automatically (as you've said auto RAW conversion sucks) but to review the shots, find groups of similar images and process those groups in batches. Here's and a real world example of how I generally process my shots:

Re: Full frame lenses and the K10D, CA anyone?

2007-04-14 Thread Doug Franklin
Brendan MacRae wrote: I've heard some claim that APO will help in this regard. Supposedly the Sigma 400 APO solves this problem but I haven't seen anything definitive. Well, I'll let you know. I'll shoot the Mitty vintage races later this month, and the Sigma usually comes out for at least a

RE: Pixel peeping and looking for defects (wasRe:Fullframelensesandthe K10D, CA anyone?)

2007-04-14 Thread J. C. O'Connell
UNSHARP MASK alone, which needs the image to be viewed at 100% to set properly, cant be done with thumbnails so there is no way to group them easily like you suggest unless you open every file at full size which is a very time consuming process I have grown to hate for an entire card. jco

Re: PESO - High on a Hill

2007-04-14 Thread Jack Davis
I can appreciate why you're stalking this scene. This perspective is composed well, but, to me, the gazebo should stand alone on the crest of the hill and against the sky only. BTW, I don't feel that the tilt is a negative. In fact, I think it adds to its charm. Maybe a brooding sky and the gazebo

Re: Please unenable me!

2007-04-14 Thread Peter Lacus
Juan, Please, help me save $5000 and stay on the Pentax side... do you have _ALL_ Limited lenses already? ;-) Cheers, Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Pixel peeping and looking for defects (was Re: Full frame lenses and the K10D, CA anyone?)

2007-04-14 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Brendan, That is one of the reasons (price is another) that I have been using Picture Window Pro. It was designed by a photographer for photographers. The style is much more in harmony with how you think. You might want to download a trial and see what you think.

Re: Pixel peeping and looking for defects (wasRe:Fullframelensesandthe K10D, CA anyone?)

2007-04-14 Thread David Savage
Actually USM can be applied without viewing the image at 100%. I know from experience that a 800x536 @ 72 dpi web image, for example, requires USM settings ot 95%, 0.8 pixels, 10 threshold to suit my tastes. 9 times out of 10 these settings work perfectly, but I do get the occasional image that I

Re: Please unenable me!

2007-04-14 Thread Boris Liberman
Thanks, that's fairly strange. Boris David Savage wrote: Going OT: Gmail doesn't seem to like you at times Boris :-) I read these message earlier today from my other email address, and it's just now shown up in my Gmail inbox. 10 hours late. That's the second time this week that's

Re: Interesting...

2007-04-14 Thread Bruce Dayton
I also have a PQI card that formats to 120. All my Trancends are 123 like yours. I'm sure the internal size of the memory is very slightly different, but conforms to the 2gb standard. A bit like focal lengths on lenses. They are not marked exactly as to their focal length. -- Bruce Friday,

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