Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame

2010-02-25 Thread John Sessoms
From: steve harley On 2010-02-25 17:39 , eckinator wrote: that's only 'cos of Ricky Martin - offer him citizenship instead =) {chuckles} but note that Puerto Ricans are US Citizens; they just don't get a vote in the US Congress They don't get to vote for Congress if they're still living

GESO: Surf N Turf (#6)

2010-02-25 Thread David Mann
Yet another swim run race. This week the race was held at Scarborough Beach at the eastern edge of the city. We had much better weather but the surf wasn't safe to do the full swim course. So the swim-only events were cancelled and the aquathon (swim followed by run) was greatly shortened.

Re: PESO - Bike Parking at Night

2010-02-25 Thread Rob Studdert
On 26/02/2010, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Nah. I'm okay with a little grittiness in my low-light shots. And I can't live without my focus points, weather sealing, enough resolution for 24 x 30 prints,vertical grip, and 1000 exposure battery life. I know I should have

Re: PESO - Bike Parking at Night

2010-02-25 Thread paul stenquist
On Feb 25, 2010, at 8:32 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: On 26/02/2010, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Nah. I'm okay with a little grittiness in my low-light shots. And I can't live without my focus points, weather sealing, enough resolution for 24 x 30 prints,vertical grip, and

OT: Happy Birthday Christine (was On FF and other must have features)

2010-02-25 Thread Bob Sullivan
Well Happy Birthday! Bob S. On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 6:40 PM Subject: Re: On FF and

Re: PESO - Bike Parking at Night

2010-02-25 Thread Rob Studdert
On 26/02/2010, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: You tell it like you see it. That's not necessarily 'like it is, so frequently a little balance is called for. But that's okay. The K-x has the best low light capabilities of any Pentax camera to date, it's not just me, there's a

Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame

2010-02-25 Thread Graydon
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 06:17:53PM -0500, frank theriault scripsit: On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 10:11 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: God is dead. No she isn't. She's just moved on to a new relationship. She says we can still be friends. Were She really omniscient, she'd

Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame

2010-02-25 Thread Bran Everseeking
On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 20:55:52 -0500 Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: Were She really omniscient, she'd know that ~never~ works... Ah, but if She's omniscient, She can *make* it work. -- Graydon Dat would be Omnipotent -- Love is that condition in which the happiness of another person

Let's not bitch about Pentax... Let's bitch about Adobe.

2010-02-25 Thread Mark Roberts
There's nothing about the CS3 applications that doesn't suit me. But... the courses I'm teaching are built around the CS4 Adobe apps and it's becoming increasingly difficult to plan lessons for classes that use the CS4 interfaces while I'm working with the CS3 interfaces... so, even though it's

Re: PESO - Bike Parking at Night

2010-02-25 Thread paul stenquist
On Feb 25, 2010, at 8:53 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: On 26/02/2010, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: You tell it like you see it. That's not necessarily 'like it is, so frequently a little balance is called for. But that's okay. The K-x has the best low light capabilities of

Re: OT: Happy Birthday Christine (was On FF and other must have features)

2010-02-25 Thread ann sanfedele
Bob Sullivan wrote: Well Happy Birthday! Bob S. On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 6:40 PM

Re: Let's not bitch about Pentax... Let's bitch about Adobe.

2010-02-25 Thread paul stenquist
On Feb 25, 2010, at 9:13 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: There's nothing about the CS3 applications that doesn't suit me. But... the courses I'm teaching are built around the CS4 Adobe apps and it's becoming increasingly difficult to plan lessons for classes that use the CS4 interfaces while I'm

Re: On FF and other must have features

2010-02-25 Thread Graydon
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:55:49AM +1100, Rob Studdert scripsit: On 26/02/2010, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 10:54:03AM -0500, P. J. Alling scripsit: Won't do any good, can't find a decent Keyboard for love nor money any more. (I keep searching for and

Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame

2010-02-25 Thread Graydon
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 08:07:28PM -0600, Bran Everseeking scripsit: On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 20:55:52 -0500 Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: Were She really omniscient, she'd know that ~never~ works... Ah, but if She's omniscient, She can *make* it work. -- Graydon Dat would be

RE: multiple copies ...

2010-02-25 Thread John Sessoms
Guess it is happening some ... this came through twice. From: paul stenquist On Feb 25, 2010, at 7:58 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: P. J. Alling On 2/25/2010 1:16 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Steven Desjardins I'm submitting a picture for an SPCA charity event, i.e., if someone buys it

Re: Let's not bitch about Pentax... Let's bitch about Adobe.

2010-02-25 Thread Mark Roberts
paul stenquist wrote: I had no problems installing CS4, but that was on a Mac. No flame intentions here:-). Good, because I'm ready for a Mac rant, too: The Mac at school still won't let me log in on the first try and it won't *ever* recognize the scanner through Photoshop - I have to use the

Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame

2010-02-25 Thread Stan Halpin
On Feb 24, 2010, at 11:02 PM, frank theriault wrote: I think all handguns should be banned, no exceptions. I think it's legitimate and morally right to consider abortion as a form of birth control. Obama's health care bill doesn't go nearly far enough. Screw bipartisanism, he should

Re: PESO - There is No Time...

2010-02-25 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks, Frank! Frank Furness was a leading architect in Philadelphia in the late 1800s; he designed the first library on Penn's then-semi-rural campus. It is a gem. It now houses the Fine Arts Library; the main library moved to a nearby architectural dungheap in the 1960's. When final exams

Re: Let's not bitch about Pentax... Let's bitch about Adobe.

2010-02-25 Thread Paul Ewins
There isn't a PS plug-in for my Epson 2450 using CS4, so I'm stuck using the Epson software. Mostly it won't recognise the scanner first up and I have to restart the scanner and software. I think that is Epson's way of telling me to upgrade. On 26/02/2010, at 1:34 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Re: PESO - There is No Time...

2010-02-25 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks, Ann! I burned the window in a bit, and boosted the contrast--lately it seems that pix posted to photo.net look a bit washed-out. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10734857size=lg Cheers, Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Thu, 2/25/10, ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com

Re: Let's not bitch about Pentax... Let's bitch about Adobe.

2010-02-25 Thread Brendan MacRae
CS4 has been plagued with install issues, as you've seen firsthand. I have the entire suite here that absolutely refuses to install on my Mac. I tried the Adobe forums first, then tech support (free for installation issues) and spent a good 6-7 hours of my life on the phone and was never able

Re: Let's not bitch about Pentax... Let's bitch about Adobe.

2010-02-25 Thread Adam Maas
Shouldn't need a plugin, just a properly TWAIN-compliant Epson App. PS supports any TWAIN-compliant scanner and has for years. It's an awful way to scan though, batch scanning is severely crippled from inside PS. Which is why I batch-scan and monitor the output directory via Bridge. -Adam On

Re: multiple copies ...

2010-02-25 Thread paul stenquist
On Feb 25, 2010, at 9:28 PM, John Sessoms wrote: Guess it is happening some ... this came through twice. From: paul stenquist On Feb 25, 2010, at 7:58 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: P. J. Alling On 2/25/2010 1:16 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Steven Desjardins I'm submitting a picture

Re: Let's not bitch about Pentax... Let's bitch about Adobe.

2010-02-25 Thread paul stenquist
On Feb 25, 2010, at 9:34 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: paul stenquist wrote: I had no problems installing CS4, but that was on a Mac. No flame intentions here:-). Good, because I'm ready for a Mac rant, too: The Mac at school still won't let me log in on the first try and it won't *ever*

Re: PESO - There is No Time...

2010-02-25 Thread ann sanfedele
Yeah, that's better - real nice shot, Rick Ann Rick Womer wrote: Thanks, Ann! I burned the window in a bit, and boosted the contrast--lately it seems that pix posted to photo.net look a bit washed-out. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10734857size=lg Cheers, Rick

Re: Let's not bitch about Pentax... Let's bitch about Adobe.

2010-02-25 Thread Mark Roberts
Brendan MacRae wrote: CS4 has been plagued with install issues, as you've seen firsthand. I have the entire suite here that absolutely refuses to install on my Mac. I tried the Adobe forums first, then tech support (free for installation issues) and spent a good 6-7 hours of my life on the

Re: PESO - Bike Parking at Night

2010-02-25 Thread Adam Maas
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 9:17 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Feb 25, 2010, at 8:53 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: On 26/02/2010, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: You tell it like you see it. That's not necessarily 'like it is, so frequently a little balance is

Re: Let's not bitch about Pentax... Let's bitch about Adobe.

2010-02-25 Thread paul stenquist
On Feb 25, 2010, at 9:42 PM, Brendan MacRae wrote: CS4 has been plagued with install issues, as you've seen firsthand. I have the entire suite here that absolutely refuses to install on my Mac. I tried the Adobe forums first, then tech support (free for installation issues) and spent a

Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame

2010-02-25 Thread Adam Maas
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 8:02 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I think that many even here in Canada are frustrated that they can't get faster service if they pay for it (like you can in the US).  That would, in the minds of many (including me!) undermine the idea of

Re: Let's not bitch about Pentax... Let's bitch about Adobe.

2010-02-25 Thread drd1135
Hell was designed by Adobe. Steve Desjardins -Original Message- From: Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 21:13:27 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: Let's not bitch about Pentax... Let's bitch about Adobe. There's nothing about the CS3 applications

Re: Let's not bitch about Pentax... Let's bitch about Adobe.

2010-02-25 Thread Adam Maas
Hell was designed by BMC Software and implemented by Blackboard Inc. Adobe's positively wonderful in comparison to those two. -Adam On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 9:59 PM, drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Hell was designed by Adobe. Steve Desjardins -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the

PESO - Furness Library

2010-02-25 Thread Rick Womer
The fine old Victorian pile known as the Furness Building houses a very handsome library. Windows open into it from the building's third floor. I leaned out through one for this shot; things were too tight to use the fisheye, though I may try again sometime.

Re: Anyone else ...

2010-02-25 Thread drd1135
Happy 50th, Dudette! --Original Message-- From: Christine Aguila Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List ReplyTo: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Anyone else ... Sent: Feb 25, 2010 7:26 PM From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com ... wonder where the wild

Re: Let's not bitch about Pentax... Let's bitch about Adobe.

2010-02-25 Thread Brendan MacRae
- Original Message From: Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thu, February 25, 2010 6:50:05 PM Subject: Re: Let's not bitch about Pentax... Let's bitch about Adobe. Brendan MacRae wrote: CS4 has been plagued with install issues,

Re: PESO - Furness Library

2010-02-25 Thread paul stenquist
Excellent shot. Reminds me of the reading room at the New York Public Library. Paul On Feb 25, 2010, at 10:04 PM, Rick Womer wrote: The fine old Victorian pile known as the Furness Building houses a very handsome library. Windows open into it from the building's third floor. I leaned out

Re: Let's not bitch about Pentax... Let's bitch about Adobe.

2010-02-25 Thread Paul Ewins
TWAIN isn't supported by CS4 on Intel Macs. The plug-in is on the disk but isn't installed in the default install. In my case it didn't work even after I had manually put it in the appropriate folder. Apparently if you run CS4 in Rosetta mode it should work, but as that slows PS down I see no

Re: Let's not bitch about Pentax... Let's bitch about Adobe.

2010-02-25 Thread David Savage
at the moment I'd rather bitch about having to leave the air conditioned comfort of the office to go measure up a clients piece of equipment on a very humid 40 degree day... On 26/02/2010, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: There's nothing about the CS3 applications that doesn't suit me.

RE: Let's not bitch about Pentax... Let's bitch about Adobe.

2010-02-25 Thread Tanya Love
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Re: Let's not bitch about Pentax... Let's bitch about Adobe.

2010-02-25 Thread paul stenquist
On Feb 25, 2010, at 10:56 PM, Paul Ewins wrote: TWAIN isn't supported by CS4 on Intel Macs. The plug-in is on the disk but isn't installed in the default install. In my case it didn't work even after I had manually put it in the appropriate folder. Apparently if you run CS4 in Rosetta

Re: Anyone else ...

2010-02-25 Thread Boris Liberman
Oh! Happy Birthday! Boris On 2/26/2010 5:05 AM, drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Happy 50th, Dudette! --Original Message-- From: Christine Aguila Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List ReplyTo: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Anyone else ... Sent: Feb 25, 2010 7:26

Re: Anyone else ...

2010-02-25 Thread David Savage
On 26 February 2010 08:26, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com ... wonder where the wild child from Chicago has got to? The wild child from Chicago turned 50 today and is doing just fine!  She had a lovely walk with her husband this

Boris PESO #13

2010-02-25 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! So I returned from one more business trip to DC area. This time I had an encounter with what I used to call winter 18 years ago. http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/02/peso-2010-13.html Be brutal and honest. P.S. I do apologize for the FF thread that I started. Boris -- PDML

Re: Boris PESO #13

2010-02-25 Thread Ken Waller
Welcome to my world - zoom, zoom. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com Subject: Boris PESO #13 Hi! So I returned from one more business trip to DC area. This time I had an encounter with what I used to call

best wide angle - for shooting interiors?

2010-02-25 Thread Tanya Love
Hi everyone, I’d love to hear your suggestions for the best wide angle lens I can get my hands on to shoot interiors. I need it to be as fast as possible, and if it is a zoom, I need constant aperture through-out. Many of the interiors (babies nurseries) that I am shooting are required to

Hey Stan...

2010-02-25 Thread Tanya Love
Are you ever going to update your Lens Comments website with the newer lenses? I'd love to see some reviews/comments on the different DA options that are available... Tan. :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the

Re: best wide angle - for shooting interiors?

2010-02-25 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 03:08:43PM +1000, Tanya Love wrote: Hi everyone, I?d love to hear your suggestions for the best wide angle lens I can get my hands on to shoot interiors. I need it to be as fast as possible, and if it is a zoom, I need constant aperture through-out. Many of the

Re: PESO - Furness Library

2010-02-25 Thread Christine Aguila
Wow, that's nice, Rick. Composition of the reading tables is excellent. Light quite lovely too. I might be tempted to crop a little of the busy part at the top, but, heck, minor point. Overall excellently exposed and composed. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Rick

Re: PESO - Bike Parking at Night

2010-02-25 Thread Bruce Dayton
Thursday, February 25, 2010, 5:32:13 PM, you wrote: RS On 26/02/2010, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Nah. I'm okay with a little grittiness in my low-light shots. And I can't live without my focus points, weather sealing, enough resolution for 24 x 30 prints,vertical grip,

Re: Boris PESO #13

2010-02-25 Thread Christine Aguila
That's neat, Boris. I like it. I'd like it too without the Maryland plate name. Good catch on the ice formation. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 10:43 PM

Re: PESO - Bike Parking at Night

2010-02-25 Thread Christine Aguila
Adam: took a peek at this peso, reallly impressive. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: Surf N Turf (#6)

2010-02-25 Thread Christine Aguila
Hi David: This is truly a great set, probably my favorite of all your gesos of this subject. I just love #1 my three favs after that are 3, 5, 11, but all are nice. I like the color and light alot. The close ups of the athletes are very nice too. Overall, great work. You've improved the

Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame

2010-02-25 Thread P. J. Alling
On 2/25/2010 5:55 PM, frank theriault wrote: On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Ken Wallerkwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: you forgot to add Canada becomming the 51 st state ! ...we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the

Re: best wide angle - for shooting interiors?

2010-02-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I had both the DA14 and the DA10-17. The DA14 is excellent for this work. It's a very fine lens, best performance at f/4.5-5.6, with very little rectilinear distortion. And it focuses very close. The 10-17FE is fun. Never could figure out what exactly to do with it, but always got interesting

Re: Let's not bitch about Pentax... Let's bitch about Adobe.

2010-02-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I installed Photoshop CS4 the other day. I don't use any plugins, I just saved out my CS2 actions, did the install, and reloaded my actions, then installed the latest Camera Raw. Done, no drama at all. Works fine (although CS4 has some known color management glitches). Much faster loading and a

Thanks!!

2010-02-25 Thread Christine Aguila
Big thanks to everyone for the b-day wishes on and off list. Had a great day, and it was fun to pop-in on-list today! Flash http://www.caguila.com/caguila/50walk/ HTML http://www.caguila.com/caguila/50walk2/ Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: OT: Collectible Spoons of the 3rd Reich

2010-02-25 Thread David Mann
On Feb 26, 2010, at 2:12 AM, frank theriault wrote: Then and there and ever since, that's become ~my~ name for a band: Trucks to Warsaw. Now I just have to learn to play an instrument and/or sing and/or write songs... Why let that stop you? It certainly doesn't seem to trouble many modern

Re: PESO - Furness Library

2010-02-25 Thread David Mann
On Feb 26, 2010, at 4:04 PM, Rick Womer wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10734954 Looks like a nice building... I'd be curious to see a shot looking up from below as well. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame

2010-02-25 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan Subject: Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame Are there people who live up there? Ok 54th state, the flag would look better with 54 stars. http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/canadas-bitch.jpg William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

Re: best wide angle - for shooting interiors?

2010-02-25 Thread David Mann
On Feb 26, 2010, at 6:49 PM, John Francis wrote: It's not that hard nowadays, if you're prepared to dig deep into your wallet. Mark! Sounds like a pretty universal statement to me. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: Let's not bitch about Pentax... Let's bitch about Adobe.

2010-02-25 Thread David Mann
On Feb 26, 2010, at 5:04 PM, David Savage wrote: at the moment I'd rather bitch about having to leave the air conditioned comfort of the office to go measure up a clients piece of equipment on a very humid 40 degree day... At least your office is air conditioned :( This week's been hot

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