FSF: K100D Super

2010-09-11 Thread Miserere
It's still Friday in California, so I'm going for it. Up for sale is my K100D Super. In excellent condition, with box, manual, etc., etc. (but no batteries!). Shutter actuations under 7,000. $250 OBO shipped within the US. Elsewhere in the world would incur an extra shipping fee. If anyone is

OT - The Welsh

2010-09-11 Thread Cotty
This is why we keep the Welsh in Wales http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-11268644 -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Animaux Sauvages! Photos from the Canadian Rockies!

2010-09-11 Thread Walter Gilbert
Well, Mr. Roberts ... I hope you're happy with yourself. I certainly would be. -- Walt On 9/10/2010 10:48 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: A gallery of snaps from last weeks trip to Canada: http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/banff2010/index.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: New releases - any upgrades to the sensor noise??

2010-09-11 Thread Miserere
On 11 September 2010 01:26, John Celio n...@neovenator.com wrote: There's really no point in asking this question right now.  They've only just announced the cameras, no one's gotten their hands on them, much less tested them. Get with the times, John :-) Some K-r samples. First,

Re: Peso - night pool

2010-09-11 Thread Walter Gilbert
I really like that, Sasha. Wonderful light and lines. -- Walt On 9/11/2010 12:45 AM, Sasha Sobol wrote: Sorry, the final version is this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4964062869/lightbox --S On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 10:44 PM, Sasha Sobolsa...@asobol.com wrote:

OT PESO - samurai

2010-09-11 Thread Derby Chang
My uncle, in Australia on a work/holiday break, was in a horrifying bus accident coming back from the 12 Apostles, and underwent surgery in Melbourne. Back in Sydney and is thankfully is recovering well. He brought back amazing stories, and a neck brace

Re: Also official - DA L 35mm f2.4

2010-09-11 Thread Derby Chang
On 9/09/2010 4:19 PM, John Celio wrote: May I be the first to say: I will be avoiding the just-announced DA L 35mm f2.4. Plastic construction aside, the SR feature of Pentax SLRs does not mean a (relatively) slow normal lens is a good thing to offer if you want to attract new users. :P

Re: Animaux Sauvages! Photos from the Canadian Rockies!

2010-09-11 Thread Derby Chang
On 11/09/2010 1:48 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: A gallery of snaps from last weeks trip to Canada: http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/banff2010/index.html I especially like the light in this one http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/banff2010/7da04393.html Those are fearsome beasts they have

Re: Also official - DA L 35mm f2.4

2010-09-11 Thread Miserere
On 11 September 2010 03:14, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote: ARGH.Mike Johnston RiceRolled me MARK! --M. --     \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com     http://EnticingTheLight.com     A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Also official - DA L 35mm f2.4

2010-09-11 Thread Miserere
On 9 September 2010 02:19, John Celio n...@neovenator.com wrote: May I be the first to say: I will be avoiding the just-announced DA L 35mm f2.4.  Plastic construction aside, the SR feature of Pentax SLRs does not mean a (relatively) slow normal lens is a good thing to offer if you want to

Re: Animaux Sauvages! Photos from the Canadian Rockies!

2010-09-11 Thread Cotty
On 10/9/10, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: BTW: Here are *my* personal faves of the lot: http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/banff2010/7da04313.html http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/banff2010/7da04015.html Just shows what kind of mood I'm in, I suppose. Very Lord of the Rings!

Re: Animaux Sauvages! Photos from the Canadian Rockies!

2010-09-11 Thread Cotty
On 10/9/10, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: It's especially difficult to get good photos when hiking with other people. They're forever getting irritated with waiting and taking off without you. I rushed a lot of this stuff more than I would have liked and still ended up doing a lot of

Re: K-5 leaked: plausible IMO

2010-09-11 Thread mike wilson
Thibouille wrote: I like that, personally. Of importance IMO, new flashes begin 2011 allowing 1/250 sync speed, 18 AF points, speed optimized AF-C, 8fps, 1080p, 200-12800iso, extended 50-25600iso. http://k-rumors.com/new-pentax-k-5-leaked-by-lenstip/ Surely it's the shutter that determines

Re: OT - Happy Rosh Hashanah

2010-09-11 Thread mike wilson
frank theriault wrote: On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 7:57 AM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote: * Dave waves his white PC flag* It has nothing to do with political correctness and everything to do with being sensitive and respectful towards others. It appears to me that there is a number

RE: Also official - DA L 35mm f2.4

2010-09-11 Thread Bob W
http://www.pentaximaging.com/camera- lenses/smc_PENTAX_DA_L_35mm_F2.4_A L/ John Amateur Photographer UK are saying it's a full frame lens (and that Pentax have a FF DSLR for that matter): http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/news/Pentax_35mm_f24__smc_P

Re: OT PESO - samurai

2010-09-11 Thread Anthony Farr
That's funny (the picture, not the story). You should send it to http://happychairishappy.com/ regards, Anthony    Of what use is lens and light     to those who lack in mind and sight                                                (Anon) On 11 September 2010 17:10, Derby Chang

Re: K-5 leaked: plausible IMO

2010-09-11 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote: I like that, personally. Of importance IMO, new flashes begin 2011 allowing 1/250 sync speed, 18 AF points, speed optimized AF-C, 8fps, 1080p, 200-12800iso, extended 50-25600iso. So, this is the camera the K-7 should have been right from the start. :-/

Re: Also official - DA L 35mm f2.4

2010-09-11 Thread Cotty
On 11/9/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: I think you are over-interpreting the statement from AP. Cotty can put his hat back in the pantry. In terms of the doomsday clock, it's not even out of the packet yet. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche

Re: K-r is official

2010-09-11 Thread eckinator
2010/9/11 paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: Of course. Although focus usually achieved by means of a bellows or other device that moved the lens.  But a modern camera that uses one ring for focus and other controls would be inexcusable if it weren't a PS. true. but I have to say I

Re: OT PESO - samurai

2010-09-11 Thread eckinator
Glad he is recovering well and what a funny shot... a samurai named hans (acronym for head and neck shield)... and now we dance =) Thank you for sharing and my best wishes to your uncle Ecke 2010/9/11 Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au: My uncle, in Australia on a work/holiday break, was in a

Re: K-5 leaked: plausible IMO

2010-09-11 Thread Tim Øsleby
This seem to be a pattern from Pentax. First they introduce something new, then they makes it better in next generation. I think I'll jump on K-5, then skip next model, and so on. MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ 2010/9/11 Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de: Thibouille

RE: K-5 leaked: plausible IMO

2010-09-11 Thread SV Hovland
Dosn't all (most) companies do that? It's up to you to decide if it is worth upgrading from one generation to the next. Stig Vidar Hovland -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Tim Øsleby Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 1:04 PM

PESO - Morning Jolt

2010-09-11 Thread frank theriault
My favourite way to start a weekend morning. Okay, my second favourite. ;-) http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/09/morning-jolt.html Fresh-ground dark roast coffee from a French press. Mm! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML

Re: OT - Happy Rosh Hashanah

2010-09-11 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 5:24 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: frank theriault wrote: It has nothing to do with political correctness and everything to do with being sensitive and respectful towards others. It appears to me that there is a number of listers who find _all_ forms

Re: Semi-OT: Advice for a beginner?

2010-09-11 Thread David Parsons
The problem is there are other photographers out there who are charging $15 and making money off of it. They use cheap labor and churn out the pictures fast. They are making money by being the exclusive provider of services and offering up-sells of the basic package. I personally wouldn't pay

Re: K-5 leaked: plausible IMO

2010-09-11 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
SV Hovland pdml...@heime.org wrote: Dosn't all (most) companies do that? It's up to you to decide if it is worth upgrading from one generation to the next. Nothing wrong with a little progress and evolution. But as it looks now, the K-5 will become an impressive demonstration of what a mess

Re: OT - Happy Rosh Hashanah

2010-09-11 Thread Boris Liberman
On 9/11/2010 12:24 PM, mike wilson wrote: It appears to me that there is a number of listers who find _all_ forms of organised religion contrary to their beliefs to the point of offensiveness. So It is all matter of expression and timing, Mike. It seems to me that even the most patient

Re: Animaux Sauvages! Photos from the Canadian Rockies!

2010-09-11 Thread mike wilson
Mark Roberts wrote: A gallery of snaps from last weeks trip to Canada: http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/banff2010/index.html http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/banff2010/7da04205.html The trumpet fungi may be lichen. Their greenness is exceeded only by my own. -- PDML

Re: Peso - night pool

2010-09-11 Thread David J Brooks
Much better than the first link.;-) Well lit and love the line work here,. Dave On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 1:45 AM, Sasha Sobol sa...@asobol.com wrote: Sorry, the final version is this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4964062869/lightbox --S On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 10:44 PM, Sasha Sobol

Re: OT PESO - samurai

2010-09-11 Thread Boris Liberman
May he recover soon and fully. Boris On 9/11/2010 10:10 AM, Derby Chang wrote: My uncle, in Australia on a work/holiday break, was in a horrifying bus accident coming back from the 12 Apostles, and underwent surgery in Melbourne. Back in Sydney and is thankfully is recovering well. He

Re: PESO - Birches

2010-09-11 Thread David J Brooks
Nice framing here,. Dave On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: By the same Adirondack lake: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11585866 Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: PESO - The World in a Drop

2010-09-11 Thread David J Brooks
Must have missed this one. I like the framing and colour to this one. The OOF mirrored bit behind and to the left works for me., Dave On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 3:45 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Went for a nature walk this morning, and fifteen minutes after I left the house

Re: K-5 leaked: plausible IMO

2010-09-11 Thread Adam Maas
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 12:58 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: On 9/11/2010 1:30 AM, Adam Maas wrote: Well, it's not a Pentax invention. IrSimple(tm) is already used by Fuji in their digital cameras, and apparently it shows up in several mobile phones as well. While current

Re: K-5 leaked: plausible IMO

2010-09-11 Thread Adam Maas
2010/9/11 Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de: Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote: I like that, personally. Of importance IMO, new flashes begin 2011 allowing 1/250 sync speed, 18 AF points, speed optimized AF-C, 8fps, 1080p, 200-12800iso, extended 50-25600iso. So, this is the camera

Re: Animaux Sauvages! Photos from the Canadian Rockies!

2010-09-11 Thread Mark Roberts
mike wilson wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: A gallery of snaps from last weeks trip to Canada: http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/banff2010/index.html http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/banff2010/7da04205.html The trumpet fungi may be lichen. Their greenness is exceeded only by my own. I

Re: K-5 leaked: plausible IMO

2010-09-11 Thread Mark Roberts
Adam Maas wrote: 2010/9/11 Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de: Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote: I like that, personally. Of importance IMO, new flashes begin 2011 allowing 1/250 sync speed, 18 AF points, speed optimized AF-C, 8fps, 1080p, 200-12800iso, extended 50-25600iso. So,

Re: OT PESO - samurai

2010-09-11 Thread Jack Davis
Is the brace mocking your uncle's cries of anguish? ;) Jack --- On Sat, 9/11/10, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote: From: Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au Subject: OT PESO - samurai To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, September 11, 2010, 12:10 AM My uncle, in

Re: PESO - Caption Contest 2 !

2010-09-11 Thread Christine Aguila
Did you just fart? - Original Message - From: Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com To: Pentax List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 4:55 PM Subject: PESO - Caption Contest 2 ! We encountered these guys on an Adirondack farm. There are so many caption possibilities...

Re: New releases - any upgrades to the sensor noise??

2010-09-11 Thread Adam Maas
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com wrote: Does anyone know if any work has been done on upgrading the sensors in the new bodies to avoid noise?  Like seriously, if I didn't have noise reduction in LR these days, I'd be trashing a LOT of my stuff - something I

Re: PESO - Morning Jolt

2010-09-11 Thread Jack Davis
Are you that old, Frank or hadn't you gone to bed yet? ;) I know from old, that being my favorite time of day. Jack --- On Sat, 9/11/10, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Subject: PESO - Morning Jolt To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Peso Sir, I do believe you are in my seat.

2010-09-11 Thread David J Brooks
Liz and i had our tea out side, at first light this morning. Birds had come a bit earlier than normal for their breakfast. A lot of jays this morning. This one had his meal interrupted. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11601470 K10D, DA F 50-200, AF360 at -2.0 EV for fill. 1/60 at F

Re: PESO - Morning Jolt

2010-09-11 Thread David J Brooks
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Are you that old, Frank or hadn't you gone to bed yet? ;) I know from old, that being my favorite time of day. Jack One difference between Franks table and mine. There would be 5-6 more sitting there.:-) Dave --- On Sat,

Re: New releases - any upgrades to the sensor noise??

2010-09-11 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com wrote: Does anyone know if any work has been done on upgrading the sensors in the new bodies to avoid noise? Shoot in a forest.?? :-) Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com

Re: Peso Sir, I do believe you are in my seat.

2010-09-11 Thread Jack Davis
Good action grab and flash setting choice, David. Jack --- On Sat, 9/11/10, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com Subject: Peso Sir, I do believe you are in my seat. To: Pentax Discuss pdml@pdml.net, Barbara Brooks bbaro...@gmail.com, Petch

Re: Peso Sir, I do believe you are in my seat.

2010-09-11 Thread David J Brooks
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Good action grab and flash setting choice, David. Jack Thanks Jack. I just wish i was a split second faster on the shutter button, as both of them were all fluffed up. -1.5 is to much and -2.0 is a tad to little, so a small

Re: Peso Sir, I do believe you are in my seat.

2010-09-11 Thread P N Stenquist
Fun stuff. That lens has excellent bokeh in most situations. Nice. Paul On Sep 11, 2010, at 9:01 AM, David J Brooks wrote: Liz and i had our tea out side, at first light this morning. Birds had come a bit earlier than normal for their breakfast. A lot of jays this morning. This one had his

Re: K-5 leaked: plausible IMO

2010-09-11 Thread P. J. Alling
That's what I would have thought as well. On 9/11/2010 5:06 AM, mike wilson wrote: Thibouille wrote: I like that, personally. Of importance IMO, new flashes begin 2011 allowing 1/250 sync speed, 18 AF points, speed optimized AF-C, 8fps, 1080p, 200-12800iso, extended 50-25600iso.

Re: K-5 leaked: plausible IMO

2010-09-11 Thread P. J. Alling
On 9/11/2010 5:55 AM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: Thibouillepentaxl...@gmail.com wrote: I like that, personally. Of importance IMO, new flashes begin 2011 allowing 1/250 sync speed, 18 AF points, speed optimized AF-C, 8fps, 1080p, 200-12800iso, extended 50-25600iso. So, this is the camera

Re: K-5 leaked: plausible IMO

2010-09-11 Thread P. J. Alling
On 9/11/2010 8:18 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Adam Maas wrote: 2010/9/11 Ralf R. Radermacherfotor...@gmx.de: Thibouillepentaxl...@gmail.com wrote: I like that, personally. Of importance IMO, new flashes begin 2011 allowing 1/250 sync speed, 18 AF points, speed optimized AF-C, 8fps, 1080p,

Re: Peso - night pool

2010-09-11 Thread P. J. Alling
I'm sorry too. The first was impressive enough, thank you. On 9/11/2010 1:45 AM, Sasha Sobol wrote: Sorry, the final version is this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4964062869/lightbox --S On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 10:44 PM, Sasha Sobolsa...@asobol.com wrote:

Re: K-5 leaked: plausible IMO

2010-09-11 Thread Adam Maas
It's a combination of the shutter speed, the SR system and also the flash burn speed nowadays. SR apparently costs sync speed, the high-end Sony's do 1/250 with SSS off and 1/200 with it on. Likely Pentax and Olympus are limiting their sync similarly. Flash burn speed also matters, but only if

Re: K-5 leaked: plausible IMO

2010-09-11 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Just like the K20D was the camera the K10D should have been from the start. The K10D was fine in its time. In my book, the K20D and the K-7 should never have been at all. This whole Samsung interlude was a mistake right from the start. Ralf --

Re: OT - Happy Rosh Hashanah

2010-09-11 Thread P. J. Alling
Oh hell, I'm irreligious, I /know/ there's a God, I just can't define God well enough to believe in religion. On 9/11/2010 7:37 AM, frank theriault wrote: On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 5:24 AM, mike wilsonm.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: frank theriault wrote: It has nothing to do with political

Re: K-5 leaked: plausible IMO

2010-09-11 Thread Bob Sullivan
A fellow from work has been waiting for the next generation to buy a home computer...since the 486 chips! You pays your money and you takes your chances. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 8:29 AM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:  On 9/11/2010 8:18 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Re: K-5 leaked: plausible IMO

2010-09-11 Thread Adam Maas
2010/9/11 Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Just like the K20D was the camera the K10D should have been from the start. The K10D was fine in its time. In my book, the K20D and the K-7 should never have been at all. This whole Samsung

Re: K-r is official

2010-09-11 Thread P. J. Alling
There are always exceptions that prove the rule. The S90 is among an elite group that includes a couple of Niknos, a couple of Canons and a Couple of Leicas, (and their Panasonic siblings). On 9/10/2010 9:11 PM, David Savage wrote: I was playing with a friends Canon S90 last weekend and it

Re: K-5 leaked: plausible IMO

2010-09-11 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: You pays your money and you takes your chances. So I did. Paid 1300 for a K-7, last summer. With some luck I might be able to get 600 for it now, on ebay. The K-5 is rumored to be at around 1600. Spent the last months doing a lot of audio and scanning

Re: K-r is official

2010-09-11 Thread P. J. Alling
Except, that the aperture shutter and focus all were controlled by different rings. Primary functions should have dedicated controls. On 9/10/2010 9:34 PM, David Parsons wrote: That is how it was originally done. All the controls were on the lens and about the only thing on the body was the

Re: K-5 leaked: plausible IMO

2010-09-11 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: Pentax was pretty much forced into it. The Sony 12MP CMOS sensor was not yet available to Pentax for the K20D, so Samsung was the only option to get something better than the old 10MP CCD in the K10D. With the K-7 Pentax was primarily updating the body so they

Re: Peso Sir, I do believe you are in my seat.

2010-09-11 Thread P. J. Alling
That is precious, good catch. I'd crop a bit off the top however. On 9/11/2010 9:01 AM, David J Brooks wrote: Liz and i had our tea out side, at first light this morning. Birds had come a bit earlier than normal for their breakfast. A lot of jays this morning. This one had his meal

Re: New releases - any upgrades to the sensor noise??

2010-09-11 Thread P. J. Alling
On 9/11/2010 9:03 AM, David J Brooks wrote: On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Tanya Lovetanyal...@bigpond.com wrote: Does anyone know if any work has been done on upgrading the sensors in the new bodies to avoid noise? Shoot in a forest.?? :-) Dave But then you'll hear the trees fall...

Re: PESO - Morning Jolt

2010-09-11 Thread P. J. Alling
On 9/11/2010 7:17 AM, frank theriault wrote: My favourite way to start a weekend morning. Okay, my second favourite. ;-) http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/09/morning-jolt.html Fresh-ground dark roast coffee from a French press. Mm! cheers, frank Sometimes coffee is better

Re: Also official - DA L 35mm f2.4

2010-09-11 Thread P. J. Alling
On 9/11/2010 3:57 AM, Miserere wrote: On 9 September 2010 02:19, John Celion...@neovenator.com wrote: May I be the first to say: I will be avoiding the just-announced DA L 35mm f2.4. Plastic construction aside, the SR feature of Pentax SLRs does not mean a (relatively) slow normal lens is a

Re: K-5 leaked: plausible IMO

2010-09-11 Thread P N Stenquist
On Sep 11, 2010, at 9:45 AM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: You pays your money and you takes your chances. So I did. Paid 1300 for a K-7, last summer. With some luck I might be able to get 600 for it now, on ebay. The K-5 is rumored to be at around

Re: K-5 leaked: plausible IMO

2010-09-11 Thread P. J. Alling
On 9/11/2010 10:00 AM, P N Stenquist wrote: On Sep 11, 2010, at 9:45 AM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: You pays your money and you takes your chances. So I did. Paid 1300 for a K-7, last summer. With some luck I might be able to get 600 for it now,

Re: K-5 leaked: plausible IMO

2010-09-11 Thread Adam Maas
2010/9/11 Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de: Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: Pentax was pretty much forced into it. The Sony 12MP CMOS sensor was not yet available to Pentax for the K20D, so Samsung was the only option to get something better than the old 10MP CCD in the K10D. With the K-7

OT (sort of), Forgotten America.

2010-09-11 Thread P. J. Alling
Slide show on flicker, seems to be random, collection of BW photos from 1890 to sometime in the 1960s. http://www.flickr.com/photos/37775831%40N02/sets/72157620345353756/show/ -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen

Re: K-5 leaked: plausible IMO

2010-09-11 Thread Tim Øsleby
They do. It seems that the neat thing about Pentax is that when you know them, you know what generation to buy. If you wants a body upgrade, you go for the body upgrade generation. If you don't, then you wait for the next refinement generation. MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/

RE: K-5 leaked: plausible IMO

2010-09-11 Thread Bob W
Even worse news: There's going to be a camera better than the K5 someday. ;-) not really. Cameras have been perfect for decades. What happens is that the marketers and ad-men find new ways to stimulate our spending reflex. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

RE: OT (sort of), Forgotten America.

2010-09-11 Thread Bob W
Slide show on flicker, seems to be random, collection of BW photos from 1890 to sometime in the 1960s. http://www.flickr.com/photos/37775831%40N02/sets/72157620345353756/s how/ I don't know if it was you or someone else who chose the title, but a great many of those pictures are of

Re: New releases - any upgrades to the sensor noise??

2010-09-11 Thread John Celio
There's really no point in asking this question right now. They've only just announced the cameras, no one's gotten their hands on them, much less tested them. Get with the times, John :-) Wow, I had no idea. Did someone already post that here and I just missed it? The noise levels look

RE: K-5 leaked: plausible IMO

2010-09-11 Thread SV Hovland
OK, I see what you mean, but I don't agree with you that K-7 was only a body upgrade from K20D. K-7 gave us more frames per second capture rate. 77 segment metering, fast AF in low light, white balance correction of AF, focus assist light, 100% viewfinder, 1/8000 shortest shutter speed and HD

PESO -- Stony Creek Harbor

2010-09-11 Thread P. J. Alling
No particularly special technique. Just a simple panoramic crop of a single frame http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20stonycreekharbor.html Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 28-200mm f3.8~5.6 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- His lack of

Re: K-5 leaked: plausible IMO

2010-09-11 Thread Adam Maas
Except for the fps (which requires improved speed from the sensor and processor in addition to body changes) and video those are all body upgrades (IE upgrades of the parts which would be in a film camera). Body is more than the physical shell, it's everything but the sensor and image processing

Re: K-5 leaked: plausible IMO

2010-09-11 Thread Steven Desjardins
This kind of stuff always makes me laugh. Pentax is a small camera company that releases stuff as fast as it can and still make money. It probably has the smallest budget of the DSLR makers. You want cutting edge, buy a Canikon. You buy Pentax if you want reasonably priced primes and uber-AF is

Re: K-5 leaked: plausible IMO

2010-09-11 Thread Graydon
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 03:42:52PM +, SV Hovland scripsit: OK, I see what you mean, but I don't agree with you that K-7 was only a body upgrade from K20D. K-7 gave us more frames per second capture rate. 77 segment metering, fast AF in low light, white balance correction of AF, focus

Re: K-5 leaked: plausible IMO

2010-09-11 Thread DagT
Den 11. sep. 2010 kl. 17.21 skrev Bob W: Even worse news: There's going to be a camera better than the K5 someday. ;-) not really. Cameras have been perfect for decades. What happens is that the marketers and ad-men find new ways to stimulate our spending reflex. B So true! I´ll

Re: K-5 leaked: plausible IMO

2010-09-11 Thread Adam Maas
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 11:51 AM, Graydon gray...@marost.ca wrote: One of the most interesting things (to me) in the K-5 descriptions I've seen is the suggestion that the viewfinder has a transparent LCD that displays the framing lines and focus points. If that's true, it's a body thing, but

Re: Also official - DA L 35mm f2.4

2010-09-11 Thread Steven Desjardins
Doesn't seem like a big investment on their part. If it's optically good, newbie zoomers might get to sample the sharpness of a prime lens. Besides, just think of the fights we could have if a subset of the list really likes this lens. On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 2:19 AM, John Celio

Re: New releases - any upgrades to the sensor noise??

2010-09-11 Thread Steven Desjardins
 At 25600 it looks about the same as my old *istD at 1600, so I can at least stand by my second point. :) John, Your wisdom is an inspiration to us all. ;-) The high iso stuff is amazing, isn't it? Glad I held onto my slow lenses. Your humble servant, Steve Desjardins -- PDML

Re: Also official - DA L 35mm f2.4

2010-09-11 Thread Miserere
On 11 September 2010 12:14, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Doesn't seem like a big investment on their part.  If it's optically good, newbie zoomers might get to sample the sharpness of a prime lens. Besides, just think of the fights we could have if a subset of the list really

PESO -- Been Fishin'

2010-09-11 Thread P. J. Alling
'm not particularly squeamish, but I may never eat fish again. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20beenfishin.html Note: The focus wasn't particularly good on this one. Yet I still like it, if like is actually appropriate... Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 28~200mm

Re: New releases - any upgrades to the sensor noise??

2010-09-11 Thread P. J. Alling
With fast lenses the newer cameras can pretty much see in the dark. Too bad Pentax cameras can't focus in the dark. On 9/11/2010 12:25 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: At 25600 it looks about the same as my old *istD at 1600, so I can at least stand by my second point. :) John, Your wisdom

Re: Also official - DA L 35mm f2.4

2010-09-11 Thread CheekyGeek
I'm sure that the majority of the members of this list do not confuse the maximum aperture of the lens with maximum image quality. I think that Pentax designers would probably rather have a Very Good f/2.4 than a Good f/2. Don't know why anyone would be excited by another 35mm f2 anyway. The FA is

Re: PESO -- Been Fishin'

2010-09-11 Thread P. J. Alling
Hum, I wonder how that I got lost... On 9/11/2010 12:37 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: 'm not particularly squeamish, but I may never eat fish again. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20beenfishin.html Note: The focus wasn't particularly good on this one. Yet I still like it, if

FS: Pentax 6x7

2010-09-11 Thread P N Stenquist
The ebayer who purchased my 6x7 renigged. She says she was buying it for her husband but suddenly realized it's the wrong camera. I don't want to relist it now. I'll sell it to a PDML member for $200 plus shipping. As far as I know it works fine. It has mirror lock up, the metered prism,

Re: K-5 leaked: plausible IMO

2010-09-11 Thread P N Stenquist
On Sep 11, 2010, at 10:09 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: On 9/11/2010 10:00 AM, P N Stenquist wrote: On Sep 11, 2010, at 9:45 AM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: You pays your money and you takes your chances. So I did. Paid 1300 for a K-7, last summer.

RE: Pentax 6x7

2010-09-11 Thread J.C. O'Connell
did you try giving the lower non-winning bidders a second chance offer as ebay provides for that service. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Join the CD PLAYER DISC Discussions : http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/

Re: K-5 leaked: plausible IMO

2010-09-11 Thread Steven Desjardins
I'm not so knowledgeable. What kind of stuff do you do, Ralf? On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 12:46 PM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Sep 11, 2010, at 10:09 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: On 9/11/2010 10:00 AM, P N Stenquist wrote: On Sep 11, 2010, at 9:45 AM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:

Re: K-5 leaked: plausible IMO

2010-09-11 Thread Boris Liberman
Oops... Sorry. Boris On 9/11/2010 3:09 PM, Adam Maas wrote: On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 12:58 AM, Boris Libermanbori...@gmail.com wrote: On 9/11/2010 1:30 AM, Adam Maas wrote: Well, it's not a Pentax invention. IrSimple(tm) is already used by Fuji in their digital cameras, and apparently it

PESO -- Along the Quinnipiack

2010-09-11 Thread P. J. Alling
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20alongthequinnipiack.html Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 28-200mm f3.5~5.6 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy.

Re: FS: Pentax 6x7

2010-09-11 Thread P. J. Alling
On 9/11/2010 12:44 PM, P N Stenquist wrote: The ebayer who purchased my 6x7 renigged. She says she was buying it for her husband but suddenly realized it's the wrong camera. I don't want to relist it now. I'll sell it to a PDML member for $200 plus shipping. As far as I know it works fine. It

RE: PESO -- Been Fishin'

2010-09-11 Thread Bob W
probably kidnapped by jObs and taken to a gleaming white cellar somewhere in Cupertino to be shrunk in a vat of bullshit until it achieves miniscule proportions. Hum, I wonder how that I got lost... On 9/11/2010 12:37 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: 'm not particularly squeamish, but I may

Re: K-5 leaked: plausible IMO

2010-09-11 Thread Adam Maas
Ralf's work is predominantly very long exposure night work. Check out his site, there's some brilliant work there. The K-7 forces long-exposure NR on longer exposures, functionally locking up the camera for twice the duration of the exposure. Not a big issue at a 30s exposure, but at 30 minutes

Re: Pentax 6x7

2010-09-11 Thread P N Stenquist
On Sep 11, 2010, at 12:57 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: did you try giving the lower non-winning bidders a second chance offer as ebay provides for that service. Yep. Either they didn't see the offer or had already moved on. Happily I sold al my 6x7 gear -- four lenses and a waist level

Re: K-5 leaked: plausible IMO

2010-09-11 Thread Steven Desjardins
So his stuff is a worst case scenario for sensor noise. I see his problem. Aside from some peeping Tom stuff, most of my high iso work is just causal snaps. ;-p On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: Ralf's work is predominantly very long exposure night work. Check out

Re: PESO - Morning Jolt

2010-09-11 Thread David J Brooks
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 9:53 AM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:  On 9/11/2010 7:17 AM, frank theriault wrote: My favourite way to start a weekend morning. Okay, my second favourite. ;-) http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/09/morning-jolt.html Fresh-ground dark roast

Re: K-5 leaked: plausible IMO

2010-09-11 Thread David Savage
On 12 September 2010 01:06, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: Ralf's work is predominantly very long exposure night work. Check out his site, there's some brilliant work there. The K-7 forces long-exposure NR on longer exposures, functionally locking up the camera for twice the duration of the

Re: Also official - DA L 35mm f2.4

2010-09-11 Thread Adam Maas
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 12:41 PM, CheekyGeek cheekyg...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sure that the majority of the members of this list do not confuse the maximum aperture of the lens with maximum image quality. I think that Pentax designers would probably rather have a Very Good f/2.4 than a Good

Re: PESO - Morning Jolt

2010-09-11 Thread Mark Roberts
David J Brooks wrote: On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 9:53 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:  On 9/11/2010 7:17 AM, frank theriault wrote: My favourite way to start a weekend morning. Okay, my second favourite. ;-) http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/09/morning-jolt.html Fresh-ground dark roast

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