Cotty posted:
Do any of the Optios, or any other Pentax digital camera for that matter
have this type of swing-out, orientateable LCD finder?
Is the Optio 33LF still on the market?
I haven't met this camera personally, but here's the link to everything I know
about it
In the interest of changing the subject, and creating new threads, and all
that...
I've been debating taking a Photoshop class. (7 is what I'll be using, and
let's not go there again, re versions. ;-))
So I am curious, if you use Photoshop, did you ever take a class in it?
Or did you
Antonio said:
As to the international nature of the list (and I am only mentioning it
because you brought it up) I do not see what bearing this has on
anything - surely in times of conflict dialogue and debate should be
welcomed between those with differing opinions - the way the world
Antonio:
Having followed this list for the past year without contributing my
impression was that you discussed OT topics here all the time.
in response to my comment:
Experience has shown that most members of this list do not want
inflammatory
OFF-TOPIC subjects debated HERE, even if
78 what?
1978. Class of 1978. In the US it's the year of graduation from high
school
Cheers,
Cotty
Oh. Cotty: 1987 was my university graduation. Not high school (that was 1980.)
ERN
Ebeneezer Scrooge writes:
Now, they are being told that digital is good enough.
And, they are being told the truth.
The truth is, a 2mp camera is good enough for most consumers.
The truth is, they don't need to be a computer wizard to run the thing.
The truth is, they don't even need
frank said:
ROTFLMBFAO
(the BF stands for Big Fat, in case anyone out there didn't get that)
Somehow I doubt this can be an accurate description, since I understand you
ride a bicycle professionally.
ERN
- Original Message -
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 19/5/04, CHRISTIAN, discombobulated, offered:
Yep they are real. about 3 inches long and in densities of 500,000 -
1,000,000 per acre. My co-workers complain about how hard it is to walk
in some areas without
On 18/5/04, THE CHESHIRE COT, discombobulated, offered:
I have phases still to come, which one day i am looking forward to. One
of those is walking off into the woods with a large format camera and
half a dozen plates, and coming back with a very large grin.
I would, under similar
Cotty said, among other things:
maybe this is what the internet does to us, makes us a 'must have faster
and faster' society?
I thought microwave ovens were blamed for that.
ERN
Well, I won't even BEGIN on what it has cost me!!
Airfares alone were well over USD$2500...
tan.
My other half keeps telling people he bought his new SUV specially for this
trip ...
(so there!)
ERN
Cotty wrote to Boris:
If I were you I would bung 30 bucks in an envelope and go for it.
I was going to suggest the very same thing. Just to let you know that at least
two of us think so. :-)
(snip Cotty's detailed description of sending lots of money)
ERN
Antonio said:
Or have debates in which everyone shares the same opinion, and where
nobody really wants to say anything that is going to be different.
in response, I think, to:
The key on this list is to NEVER bring up the subject of computer
operating
systems.
Christian
The point
Jens said:
I see Mr. Spiro is selling his 28-70mm F4 - a very good value for money
lens. It got excellent reviews when it came out some years ago.
I have one, and it deserved the excellent reviews. Mine doesn't get much use
any more, though, since -- as Jens noted -- f/4 is a bit slow for
On 13/5/04, ELEANOUOUOUOR, discombobulated, offered:
Should I be warning anybody official that I'll have one and two-thirds
hangers-on, or is it totally no problem to bring them? Will there be enough
food?
I'll have a mondo stash of Twinkies and other goodies for emergencies,
well
Wendy said:
.. where you wonder if you are actually speaking the same language as
the local minilab operators?
(story snipped, but it IS worth reading)
and then Christian offered:
(another good story snipped)
WHAT! stupid people
Not that it would've necessarily helped, but as a
Pumped up greens! LMAO
Shel Belinkoff
Sounds like a scary salad.
ERN
Aye. Myself and spouse. Possibly rugrats as well (negotiations with
grandparents for kennelling of same have not been concluded.) I eat pepperoni,
as do the rugrats; spouse does too but also eats additional stuff if available.
ERN
Probably not aye. :(
Unless some miracle happens for the Gonz.
But someone please eat a nice slice of pepperoni + green peppers +
onions + Jalapenos + mushrooms + lots of extra cheese!!!
rg
Wishing I could make it (first time)
My husband volunteers to eat this on your behalf.
ERN
My husband just gave me an early birthday present so I'd have it for the
NYCPDML outing on Saturday. I am beside myself with shock. Now I have to
rethink my kit for Saturday. Gotta sit down with the manual and get
familiar with this puppy. Big thanks to Herb for being Nate's Pentax
César posted;
I would
definitely send it back to have them correct it. If you do not, how else
will they know theat they may have a problem with their repair procedure?
After receiving similar advice offlist from another member, that's what I have
done. I communicated with Pentax service
Leon said:
I am starting to get tired of being asked what camera people should
buy, so I'm asking those who might happen to own some what they like
and dislike about their 4MP point and shoot digital cameras.
Feel free to say that the Pentax is the best, this is the place to say
it after
Steve said (at least, I think it was Steve, sorry if I'm wrong):
We had a thread a while back where some objected to the use of
photographs for digital. Since you gotta call'em somethin', the word
image has become handy.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/22/04 12:43PM
I hate using the word images
Steven said:
I think I mentioned pictures. It's a general term, like image, and
can refer to painting as well. It's fine in context, however.
Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
Washington and Lee University
Lexington, VA 24450
(540) 458-8873
FAX: (540) 458-8878
[EMAIL
1) What camera did you sell but later wish you hadn't?
Only one, and for a reason I haven't seen anyone else use yet.
I wished I hadn't sold my KX (which I didn't like) because just a few months
later my Dad bought himself a K1000 from a camera store. I think the KX
would've suited him
John posted, regarding http://aussieslang.com
It's certainly entertaining, though I don't think the author can have been
to Britain. Half his words/phrases are found in Britain, and most, like
arse are definitely not imports from Australia. Arse in fact is Saxon,
and came to Britain a
Andre said, among other things:
Certainly a black MX or black ME (the most quiet M camera if I
remember) would be a more discreet camera.
Not a lot of noise difference between MX and ME Super, to my ear. Or perhaps I
should say, more accurately, between Ken Archer's ME Super and my MX. Just
In a message dated 4/22/2004 6:01:25 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Or the parson's nose...
That's one I haven't heard before. What is that?
Marnie aka Doe
Some feature of a chicken, or so I've heard. Nowhere near the nose.
ERN
graywolf said, among other things:
DR PEPPER may have been prune juice, but it is 100% artificial nowadays, as
far
as I know. Squirt used to be carbonated grapefruit juice, even had bits of
pulp
in it, then sometime along the way they sold out to the competition who
turned
it into just
Marnie quoted and posted:
In a message dated 4/21/2004 5:55:18 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
My mother made tongue once.
---
Tongue is great. Very tender. Of course, you cook it a long time and remove
the skin, so there are no little bumbies to
I just remembered something and it even brings this thread close to ON topic!!
Just remembered my photography professor expressing the idea that gelatin is
REALLY disgusting to eat, particularly since the stuff sold for eating isn't
even the highest-quality gelatin. Seeing as how the top-quality
Simon King posted:
I recently did a portrait session* with a family who has recent moved
here (Perth, Western Australia) from Houston, Texas.
We were arranging enlargement numbers and sizes, and on my list of
options I had what I consider a normal size - 8 x 12. They'd never
heard of it and
Tanja wrote:
They certainly are going to be disappointed now when they meet this boring
old housewife and mother with a big nose aren't they?!?
You're the YOUNG housewife and mother. *I* am the boring OLD one.
ERNR
who has a birthday before
then
Don't worry Dave. If I am not mistaken, the SAPDML has only had one
gathering.
Ducking in case I am in error,
César
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:38 AM
# 10. Holy Crap. I think we are only on #5.LOL
From: Boros Attila [EMAIL PROTECTED]
snip
PS http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2249276size=lg
Beautiful girl, but the cropped head is a bit distracting.
snip
Beautiful girl? How can you tell?
The only thing apparent to me is that she must be awfully uncomfortable. What
an
Wendy posted:
Hubby bought me a laptop for Christmas from Staples. It was a demo version so
the OS had
already been installed. They wanted him to cough up an extra $80 to get the OS
on disk.
Bloody cheek!
Very true that's bloody cheek (must avoid Staples). When I bought my notebook
(from
Mr Robb wrote:
So, the problem doesn't seem to be with the act of making a political
statement, but with your disagreement with Mr Brendemuehl's politics
Mr Karlsson responded:
Where did I ever say that I disagreed with his political opinions?
Quote from Mr Karlsson regarding Mr
In response to Boris, Marnie wrote:
You know, when pinned down I am not really sure what the acronym means. Reply
something something something.
Reply Please. In French.
IIRC.
frank said:
I was about to say was. As in I was a lawyer. But, really, I still am
one. (scary thought, eh?) It's a degree that's been conferred upon me, so
as long as I can still put the letters LLB behind my name, I'm a lawyer.
Just a non-practicing lawyer.
frank, if you aren't --
I said:
Lasse Collin:
Surely your dispute could be taken off-list?
Thanks.
Lasse replied:
No way. This is a list issue, and not a personal dispute.
I disagree, Lasse. Collin has been using that sig line for quite a while.
Everybody has seen it by now. You're the only one who has chosen
Boris said, among many other things:
I do appreciate the thought though. I almost feel like the only
daughter photographer here...
Well, I WAS going to point out that I've shared some pics of MY daughter
No offence to other fathers of
daughters...
but if you insist on only counting
Lasse Collin:
Surely your dispute could be taken off-list?
Thanks.
Marnie said:
Hehehe. That's cute. Like it a lot. The downward curving toes echoing the
curve of the bar makes it.
... Hey, week 12? I got to get a PAW out there.
Don't worry. It's the 12th week of the year, not of the PAW on PDML.
Thanks for your comment.
ERN
Andreas Wirtz wrote:
on left corner two policemen approachig arrested me.
After two days, 1000 EUR and Pentax Z-1 given to
authorities I was able to go to Macedonia and then
to home.
And Glenn said, among other things:
*g*
What Glenn said.
ERN
Someone (sorry, I lost track of who) asked:
this has probably been discussed to death before, but
what's the reason to use chromogenic bw? if you take a color
negative film, and print on bw paper, wouldn't it give you the
same result? am i missing something very basic here?
Yes --
chibitul smecher asked:
anything you DO NOT like about the *istD? thanks!
The fact that I can't afford one?
ERN
Morgan said:
I've owned a ZX-M for about three years now and suddenly decided that I
wanted to be able to do rear-curtain sync flash photography. ...
I learned of all the merits of the AF-500 FTZ flash unit. So, I purchased
it online (used, at half the price).
Imagine my surprise when I
Boris said:
Simple yet beautiful... I did not mean though that it was simple to
shoot...
Actually, it was! I was in rather a hurry when I did it.
My wife agrees.
Thank you both.
ERN
Peter said, regarding Adelheid's PUG arrangements:
As this is above and beyond the call of duty how could we complain.
As a matter of fact, I'm sure we all are VERY appreciative of Adelheid's hard
work.
ERN
Alan Chan posted:
How about pink colour LIMITED for ladies?
YESH!
sez this lady (at least, I hope to pretend to be a lady sometimes)
ERN
frank said:
Film is so inconvenient. Digital isn't. Plus, no scanning, just plug it
into the 'puter, and send of those cute birthday snaps of your kid to
grandma while the party's still happening.
As a mother, whose children's grandparents are all living more than a thousand
miles away,
Bill said:
Just saw a short ad for Pentax Optio cameras on the History channel. I'd
heard they were going to start advertising, but this is the first I've seen.
It seems to me that there are changes in the works for Pentax, started about
the time they changed the company name from Asahi to
Frank said:
I hope you got paid. Just so we can put to rest the silly thinking that the
*istD isn't a Pro Camera! vbg
Well, I hope he got paid for his own sake. Tanja's already taken care of
proving the *istD IS a Pro Camera.
ERN
Sven said, among other things:
And you know how to feed a film into the camera, do you? The backing paper
needs to go *between* the rollers, otherwise you will crank the film through
the camera without a stop...
I was able to find the instruction manual for my 1950s-era Rolleiflex on line.
*ist D
That's pretty much it.
I used to want a Leica M6, but since they take film, maybe not any more.
ERN
Mark said:
Really nice mood and lighting - I'm sure it made a great card (and was a
lot more fun to do than taking a trip to the drugstore.)
Thanks.
I rather like it myself.
ERN
Paul posted:
Very nice. I'm a fan of candle light photography. You've done a very
good job of it here. Rich color. Great light and composition. Your
better half will undoubtedly be moved.
I'm a fan of candlelight photography, too, although I haven't done much of it
in years. Was rather
Graywolf shared:
Interesting comment, Frank. The peasants spoke Russian, and the Nobles spoke
French. That is why they rebelled (grin). Come to think of it the same thing
happened in England much earlier. Sir Walter Scott wrote an amusing chapter
about this language phenomenon in one of his
Bob W. quoted Mr Boros as follows:
Somebody pointed out that it would be much
simpler to change that in my e-mail addresses, and write it as
everyone else, but I don't feel it right.
and then commented
I agree with you! We must try to keep our cultural distinctions
in a world of
Cotty wrote:
O noble eBay experts,
I have sold a lens - but as you will see the auction clearly stated that
it was UK only - unless I was emailed first. In the event, the lens was
won by an Italian bidder who even sent me a checkout for the winning bid
plus £6 postage - which was
Steady Stenquist posted:
I shot this at a concert with my nearly silent 1953 Leica IIIf RD and
Summicron 50/2 collapsible. The film was Ilford Delta 3200, rated at
1600. The exposure was f2.8 @ 1/25 It's here:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2188979size=lg.
I hope I can get
Albano said:
You'll be doomed then, you'll be unable to sell it.
Do you noted how compact and lightweight it's besides
being a 6x6? Just wait to see the resulting
negs/transparencies and the detail on enlargements,
and how silent it is, and how easy it's to hanlhold,
and how cool it looks,
Shel posted ...
While waiting for her to arrive, this little scene caught my
attention:
http://home.earthlink.net/~digisnaps/bart1.html
Like the composition. Colours interesting.
Also I am relieved that the clocks agree. I'd worry if there was a discrepancy
there.
ERN
Hi,there,
I never know about PDML until Andy told me few days ago.I didn't know
there are so many pentax fans around the world.Nice to meet you all.
The website link below is my on-line photo ablums,which are almost taken
with my Z-1p.Wish you all will like them.Any comments are
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nobody has yet released an LX-D kind of camera. At the rate things are
going, the first company to make anything like that (old-fashion look and
feel, digital guts) is going to be Cosina.
Unless you specifically meant an SLR, I hear Leica Panasonic have produced
- Original Message -
From: Lon Williamson
Subject: Re: Semi OT: Heavy Tripod Head Support
Which cameras use 3/8? Do the Pentax 645 or 6x7 use them?
Hassleblad? 4x5 view cameras?
William Robb wrote, in part:
Did anyone ever figure out if Les Bogen had a 1/4x20 arse
Tanja posted:
The Newspaper deadline I was talking about? I got a front page
Wonderful!! Doesn't that just feel fantastic?
(snippage for space)
So, I took some shots, got paid 100 bucks, burnt them to cd, came home and
took the kids to school.
During the day I got phone calls from
Someone said:
And I vote for Tanja, too. It's spelling, if not it's sound, rhymes with
ganja, too, which takes me back to pleasant if fuzzy memories of Jamaica.
There ya go, Tan -- do you really want to be subconsciously associated with
illegal drugs and the shady goings-on pertaining
Lon said:
ERN Reed's Siblings looks like a studio shot, but it's so refreshing
and spontaneous. Just like they didn't hate each other most of the
time, right? Good shot. I'd fork over as a parent for this one, too.
Oddly enough, these don't hate each other most of the time! They seem to
John Mustarde said, among many other things:
I've been holding off on XP for a long time
because I didn't want the TeleTubbies interface.
Dude, I trust that's not your main reason! The interface can be changed!
Incidentally, in response to the part I didn't quote -- how about a card
frank theriault wrote:
A couple of months ago, someone asked what our first and best piece of
advice would be for tyros. I think I said, shoot lots. I would like to
change it to, have a camera with you. I'm not sure if anyone else said
this (if you did, my apologies - I didn't
Dave Brooks said:
Hi all.
Nothing spectacular here, i dont think,but when i opened the fridge to get a
drink,my
daughters
Valentine flowers were in the fridge,I had the camera in my hand,so i shot
this to see
what it would look
like.:-)
My offering
Dave said:
I like week nine.The three kids all writing at the same time was the first
thing to grab
my attention,as
is what you had in mined, correct.:-)
I also like week 2 and the sneaker shot.
All these school kids shots lately.I would like to do something like this,but
the way i
Paul Stenquist posted:
I have found it quite informative and entertaining. I think it adds a
nice balance to the equipment and technical discussions that have
dominated the list. I enjoy almost every area of discussion that the
list touches on. For me, the PAW makes PDML a richer resource.
- Original Message -
From: Ryan Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oh silly me- there aren't just 2 countries in the world. There are 5-
Australia, US, Brasil, Bolivia, Belgium. And Cotty very sneakily tried to
trick me with Britain. I mean we all know Britain's part of Bolivia.
:-)
Shel said:
What could be cooler than flowers in the fridge ... what
else is in the box? Hey, maybe we should post pics of
what's inside our refrigerators ... or maybe not ;-))
Oh, I think y'all can imagine what a few boxes of film look like.
ERN
To Frank:
Thanks for the compliment!
ERN
I like this one and cannot help but wonder how it would work
in BW with a slight sepia tone. There something of an old
tyme feel about this photo. That's not to say the color
doesn't work ... just thinking out loud.
shel
Right off the top of my head, I imagine it would remove the
Mark said:
One of the stores in San Antonio will no longer be carrying anything by
Pentax. The only other stores has minimal stock.
Then I said:
Which is which, Mark (like I can't guess?)
Mark replied:
Camera Exchange told me they are no longer going to be carrying Pentax.
Period. I'm
Shel asked:
Does this happen when a particular shutter speed is
selected, or when the camera is used on automatic?
Used on automatic.
Or with
a particular speed when used on automatic? Does it happen
when a particular aperture is used, or with any aperture?
This one's tougher, but,
Peter asked:
What speed film are you using?
Seen it happen with both 400 and 800.
Thanks, all. I guess I'll be looking into repair possibilities.
ERN
Cesar said:
Come on now. I did not say it would be snake skinned, now did I?
I seem to recall your not having too much of a problem sitting beside me and
close to the LX for our group shot in San Antonio.
I seem to recall that someone was always closer to the snaky LX than I was.
Also, I
From: Collin Brendemuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cord tells me that the reason they're not stocking the istD
(or any other Pentax SLR) is because Pentax is not able to
deliver the quantities they need for building volume sales
and the large customer base that a retailer needs to establish
a
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tanja said:
OMG - no wonder my poor hubby worries about me and that bloody photography
list. I spend half of my life convincing him that hanging out with you lot
is safe! He is petrified at the possibility of me going to GFM and
meeting with a bunch of
John Mustarde:
The Tamron 24-135 handles well, is fairly sharp at all f-stops, and
the magnification factor is handy, but it's not well suited for
outdoor pics on a sunny day even with its tulip hood.
Flares badly, to say the least.
http://www.photolin.com/misc/flare.jpg
Oh where's
Mark Dalal posted:
- Original Message -
From: Bill Sawyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Try KEH, Mark.
They only have the strap lugs for the LX that are mighty expensive. I just
need 2 sets for my ME Super and Program Plus.
Mark, are you still in San Antonio these days?
If so, have you
Mr Robb posted:
The CBC program Ideas was interviewing the distillers who make
Scotch whiskey, and they all said to a man, that Scotch should be
diluted with anywhere from 20% to 40% with water, or a similar volume
of ice.
I don't know anything about whisk(e)y but was under the distinct
I said
If so, have you tried checking with Boyd's Camera? Seems to me I've seen a
LOT
of pieces-of-old-cameras around their back room.
and Mark said
They have a back room with stuff? They've never invited me to the back room!
: (
They haven't *invited* me, per se, but I have small
Just thought the subject line needed fixing. Carry on!
grins
ERN
Steve Jolly posted:
It's a question of what they're designed for. :-) British beers are
brewed using different processes and yeasts from the lighter, fizzier
beers that are more common in the rest of Europe and in America.
Regarding:
FW http://www.wuthrich.cc/portret007.jpg
FW http://www.wuthrich.cc/portret016.jpg
FW http://www.wuthrich.cc/portret019.jpg
FW http://www.wuthrich.cc/portret036.jpg
I think the lighting works well in all of them; I prefer the composition and
the expression of 007.
Afraid I
Re: Amita's entry:
http://www.beyondthepath.com/photos/misc/nate1.jpg
I found this through Frank's critique. I can't do as good a job as he did in
discussing the photo, so I'll just say I really like it -- and leave it at that.
ERN
I said:
I can confirm that the P30t had a memory lock button. Also that it was
limited
in exposure modes (M, Av, P only); information (would not tell you what
aperture was being set in P mode; furthermore the depth of field preview
did
not work in that mode); and film
John Mustarde said, among other things:
If you want to see similar stupidity, subscribe to some of the
rec.photo newsgroups for awhile and see their nastiness towards each
other. Or see them adopt multiple identities just to respond to their
own posts. It's sad.
There was a certain
Andre quoted and posted:
OK, where'd all this bizniz of Frank with Bunny Ears get
started?
A thread about PDMLers auto-portraits with links, if I remember well.
Many months ago.
Frank's bunny ears pic remains a favourite with the group. Unlike tv's and my
respective scary feet.
ERN
John Mustarde said, among other things:
Lucky for him he got the message the first try, because I was holding
my John Philip Sousa album in reserve, with a full hour of Scottish
Bagpipers ready to deliver the coup de grace.
BTW -- good job Graywolf and JM --
I myself own some CDs of bagpipe
Malcolm posted:
This is a REAL car
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2153283size=lg
Hey, ain't that the General Lee?
Coming Through
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2153308size=lg
I really, really like this one. I want one of those cars, man! Where can I get
Comments inline.
Kenneth Waller posted:
Good start!
Thanks!
Week 1 - confusing/distracting background
Yeah -- that blanket (gift from in-laws) has wrecked a lot of shots. Currently
in the closet. Hope it gets to stay there.
Week 2 - I like the composition
Thanks.
Week 3 - Distracting
RE: http://home.earthlink.net/~digisnaps/keepwarm.html
Flexible little critter, ain't it??
ERN
Steady Stenquist posted:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2151115size=lg
I'm not sure how I feel about the breakfast, but I like the composition!
ERN
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