Re: 16-50 redo

2021-07-16 Thread Ralf R Radermacher
Am 16.07.21 um 18:54 schrieb Bill: That's what being a niche player is all about. It worked for Leica for decades. But lately only thanks to rich collectors from the Far East. Their traditional European customer base of lawyers and dentists with lots of undeclared money is slowly dying and

Re: 16-50 redo

2021-07-16 Thread Alan C
Does it count if you put a few pictures on your noticeboard? Alan C On 16-Jul-21 07:22 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Leica almost died a couple of times. I'll bet Pentax still makes money for Ricoh on every unit sold. In fact the imaging division may be the only profit center making a profit.

Re: 16-50 redo

2021-07-16 Thread Bill
Leica is putting their name onto Huawei camera phones these days. The mighty have kind of fallen off their plinth. On Fri., Jul. 16, 2021, 11:04 a.m. Daniel J. Matyola, wrote: > Yes, but no company has the snob appeal of Leica! > > Dan Matyola > *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery >

Re: 16-50 redo

2021-07-16 Thread P. J. Alling
Leica almost died a couple of times. I'll bet Pentax still makes money for Ricoh on every unit sold. In fact the imaging division may be the only profit center making a profit. There is also a lot of synergy in their current, and past digital camera lines.  I expect the the next K1 iteration

Re: 16-50 redo

2021-07-16 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Yes, but no company has the snob appeal of Leica! Dan Matyola *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery * On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 12:54 PM Bill wrote: > On Fri., Jul. 16, 2021, 8:48 a.m. Daniel J. Matyola, > > wrote: > > > It sounds like Ricoh is

Re: 16-50 redo

2021-07-16 Thread Bill
On Fri., Jul. 16, 2021, 8:48 a.m. Daniel J. Matyola, wrote: > It sounds like Ricoh is designing wonderful niche lenses that few need and > fewer can afford. > That's what being a niche player is all about. It worked for Leica for decades. bill > -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To

Re: 16-50 redo

2021-07-16 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
It sounds like Ricoh is designing wonderful niche lenses that few need and fewer can afford. Dan Matyola *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery * On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 6:03 AM wrote: > They are yes, and it promises to be an outstanding lens. > >

Re: 16-50 redo

2021-07-16 Thread pentax
They are yes, and it promises to be an outstanding lens. Mike Muizenbelt did a short review of a pre-release copy on Youtube. It is focussing fast and accurate, and is amazingly sharp, even in the corners. However, since I already have the older one (SDM) which works OK, and also have the K1

Re: 16-50 redo

2021-07-15 Thread Henk Terhell
$1400 according to Imaging Resource: https://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2021/07/14/ricoh-announced-new-da-16-50mm-f-2.8-aps-c-with-new-advanced-pulse-motor-pl Henk Op 2021-07-15 om 17:12 schreef Bill: On 7/15/2021 1:14 AM, mike wilson wrote: On 15 July 2021 at 07:49 Larry Colen wrote:

Re: 16-50 redo

2021-07-15 Thread mike wilson
> On 15 July 2021 at 16:12 Bill wrote: > > > On 7/15/2021 1:14 AM, mike wilson wrote: > > > >> On 15 July 2021 at 07:49 Larry Colen wrote: > >> > >> > >> It looks like Ricoh is coming out with a new version of the 16-50: > >> > >>

Re: 16-50 redo

2021-07-15 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I think you speak for a lot of us there, PJ! Dan Matyola *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery * On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 7:10 AM P. J. Alling wrote: > Not for me really. I have what I need right now, as well as a lot of > things I don't, and only have

Re: 16-50 redo

2021-07-15 Thread Paul Stenquist
For K-1 we have the 24-70. Same FOV, Paul > On Jul 15, 2021, at 7:10 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: > > Not for me really. I have what I need right now, as well as a lot of things > I don't, and only have a very short purchase list, most of which I cannot > afford. > > I expect, based on the new

Re: 16-50 redo

2021-07-15 Thread Bill
On 7/15/2021 1:14 AM, mike wilson wrote: On 15 July 2021 at 07:49 Larry Colen wrote: It looks like Ricoh is coming out with a new version of the 16-50: http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/star_lens/special/sp_da16-50/interview/ My first thought is that they really ought to

Re: 16-50 redo

2021-07-15 Thread Bill
On 7/15/2021 12:49 AM, Larry Colen wrote: It looks like Ricoh is coming out with a new version of the 16-50: http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/star_lens/special/sp_da16-50/interview/ My first thought is that they really ought to have made it a 15-50 or some other adjustment to

Re: 16-50 redo

2021-07-15 Thread Henk Terhell
PLM versus SDM will make the difference in properties as well as identification. My Tamron 17-50/2.8 needs no replacement yet at a cost of $1400. Henk Op 2021-07-15 om 08:49 schreef Larry Colen: It looks like Ricoh is coming out with a new version of the 16-50:

Re: 16-50 redo

2021-07-15 Thread mike wilson
> On 15 July 2021 at 07:49 Larry Colen wrote: > > > It looks like Ricoh is coming out with a new version of the 16-50: > > http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/star_lens/special/sp_da16-50/interview/ > > My first thought is that they really ought to have made it a 15-50 or some >

Re: 16-50 redo

2021-07-15 Thread P. J. Alling
Not for me really. I have what I need right now, as well as a lot of things I don't, and only have a very short purchase list, most of which I cannot afford. I expect, based on the new selling price of the K-3III that the price for this lens will be astronomical, (not to mention the fact that

16-50 redo

2021-07-15 Thread Larry Colen
It looks like Ricoh is coming out with a new version of the 16-50: http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/star_lens/special/sp_da16-50/interview/ My first thought is that they really ought to have made it a 15-50 or some other adjustment to the range just so it isn’t confused for the