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From: Feroze Kistan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 11:56 PM
Subject: Re: Metaphors (Was Re: A funny problem with digital)
The way I read
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- Original Message -
From: Feroze Kistan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 11:56 PM
Subject: Re: Metaphors (Was Re: A funny problem with digital)
The way I read
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From: Bob Walkden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Dr E D F Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 3:10 AM
Subject: Re: OT: Re: Metaphors (Was Re: A funny problem with digital)
The Thames close to my house usually flows quite quickly but there
are parts
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From: Bob Walkden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Dr E D F Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: OT: Re: Metaphors (Was Re: A funny problem with digital)
Hi,
perhaps they threw him into part of the creek where stuff accumulates.
The Thames close to my
: Sunday, October 27, 2002 9:09 AM
Subject: OT: Re: Metaphors (Was Re: A funny problem with digital)
So 'stupid' is a substance - less dense than water and insoluble. But
creeks
flow. At least all those I've seen do - most of the time. All the 'stupid'
would be washed downstream. I don't find this one
When I was crossing a stream once with my dog by hopping rock to rock, he
jumped right into a stagnant area of coagulated foam, thinking it was solid
earth. He was quite surprised (and angry) to find himself underwater. Now,
THAT's stupid. (Even smart dogs like my Cardigan Welsh Corgi are
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 1:09 AM
Subject: OT: Re: Metaphors (Was Re: A funny problem with digital)
So 'stupid' is a substance - less dense than water and insoluble. But
creeks
flow. At least all those I've seen do - most of the time. All the 'stupid'
would be washed
Thanks a lot, Bob. You just threw me into an existential quandary ...
- Original Message -
From: Bob Walkden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Robert Soames Wetmore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: OT: Re: Metaphors (Was Re: A funny problem with digital)
Hi
Don't interupt, this is the most
intelectual disscusion I've ever had on
PDML :)
Feroze
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From: Treena Harp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Metaphors (Was Re: A funny problem with digital)
Something
09:55
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Metaphors (Was Re: A funny problem with digital)
On 25 Oct 2002 at 11:36, Feroze Kistan wrote:
That is one of the funniest I have ever heard
feroze
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Treena Harp wrote in part.
And, here's one of my dear, departed
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From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 2:55 AM
Subject: Re: Metaphors (Was Re: A funny problem with digital)
On 25 Oct 2002 at 11:36, Feroze Kistan wrote
On Saturday, October 26, 2002, at 04:56 PM, Feroze Kistan wrote:
The way I read it was that the person was so stupid
that it(stupidity) dissolved in water and floated to the surface,
which could be skimmed off the top for a period of 3 weeks.
Now all the funny is gone since you made me think
Ya, like you skim the cream of the top of milk!
Feroze
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From: Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 12:35 AM
Subject: Re: Metaphors (Was Re: A funny problem with digital)
On Saturday, October 26, 2002, at 04:56 PM
I always preferred Dumber than a box of hammers. It has a better
sound, somehow.
That is one of the funniest I have ever heard
feroze
- Original Message -
Treena Harp wrote in part.
And, here's one of my dear, departed dad's: He/She's so stupid, you could
throw'em in the creek (prounced crik) and skim stupid for three weeks.
On 25 Oct 2002 at 11:36, Feroze Kistan wrote:
That is one of the funniest I have ever heard
feroze
- Original Message -
Treena Harp wrote in part.
And, here's one of my dear, departed dad's: He/She's so stupid, you could
throw'em in the creek (prounced crik) and skim
: Re[2]: A funny problem with digital
David,
I see one fundamental problem here. People take their film to Walmart
because they care more about the price than they do about the quality.
So you are already starting behind trying to explain to someone who
doesn't care.
Bruce
J They must
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Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 2:15 AM
Subject: A funny problem with digital
Today, a lady came up to my counter and asked if we could take
the file from a floppy and make an 8x10 print from it.
My co worker put the disk into the Picture Maker and went
through the pre printing steps
Was it 'Real Fractals' or 'Pure Fractals'? I'll look it up in the meantime.
I think it's called 'Genuine Fractals', but I've never used it.
However, you stiall can't add any new information with it. All you can
do is make the expanded file look smooth instead of pixelated.
-Scott
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From: Scott Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: ceturtdiena, 2002. gada 24. oktobr 12:04
Was it 'Real Fractals' or 'Pure Fractals'? I'll look it up in the
meantime.
I think it's called 'Genuine Fractals', but I've never used it.
However, you stiall
Williams
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From: Scott Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: A funny problem with digital
Was it 'Real
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Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 5:43 AM
Subject: Re: A funny problem with digital
No Dave, you can't possibly be coming from the customer POV
here. You don't know little enough to be able to imagine how
little they know, and how little they want to know. Whether you
know it or not, you
,
Dave
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From: William Robb [mailto:w_robb;accesscomm.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 11:43 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: A funny problem with digital
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No Dave, you can't possibly be coming from the
customer
POV
here. You don't know little
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Not quite so. Practically any tool, that can resize images using
bilinear or spline/bicubic interpolations, makes the resulting image
smooth (I know only one tool that can't do it - Microsoft Paint :).
some do it better than others, usually
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Scott,
I had an idea that the program could (intelligently) fit in extra pixels to
expand an image as well. I haven't found it yet. I'm busy cleaning up my
drives. Maybe I'm wrong about the interpolation, but if it does that it
might be quite
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From: Dr E D F Williams
Subject: Re: A funny problem with digital
Scott,
Okay. According to all I've read this afternoon on the web
about Genuine
Fractals it seems to be able to do what I thought - resize
without messing
things too badly. One author writes
Ha.Goos one WW.
Its like when i email a proof from the D1(horse shows)to some one,i
set it up to be as crappy a resolution as possible.I usually get an
email a bit later saying they cannot print a good copy from there
computer,must be a bad file.I tell them no its a good file,you want
a print
Unless the sender made the original with a web-capable only camera with 640
by 400
resolution, (or a more capable camera set to 640 by 400), simply downloaded
and sent
it. Then there is no full res file or more properly the file the customer
has is the
full res file.
At 11:59 PM 10/24/2002
On Thu, 24 Oct 2002 09:59:55 -0500, Dan Scott wrote:
On Wednesday, October 23, 2002, at 11:13 PM, William Robb wrote:
Sorry Ma'am, but this ones just a few beans short of a bowl of
Chili
A few fries short of a Happy Meal...
Belt doesn't go through all the loops...
Fell out of the
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From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: Metaphors (Was Re: A funny problem with digital)
I don't know how this part of the thread got started, but it looks like
fun! Can I play? Okay:
A few bricks short of a load
Today, a lady came up to my counter and asked if we could take
the file from a floppy and make an 8x10 print from it.
My co worker put the disk into the Picture Maker and went
through the pre printing steps.
The machine said the biggest print it wanted to do from the file
was a wallet size.
At
William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Today, a lady came up to my counter and asked if we could take
the file from a floppy and make an 8x10 print from it.
snip
The faces were about 40 pixels each...
She wasn't happy at all, and decided to take the job to
someplace that would do a better job
[William Robb's long, sad story snipped, but he does note:]
Most people are just too stupid to figure things out
William, I feel your pain, but IMHO it's not people that are stupid, it's
the technology. On a daily basis, I deal with computer users that don't
understand that to see the rest of
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Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 7:15 PM
To: Pentax Discuss
Subject: A funny problem with digital
Today, a lady came up to my counter and asked if we could take
the file from a floppy and make an 8x10 print from it.
My co worker put the disk into the Picture Maker and went
through the pre
- Original Message -
From: Timothy Sherburne
Subject: Re: A funny problem with digital
Most people are just too stupid to figure things out
William, I feel your pain, but IMHO it's not people that are
stupid, it's
the technology. On a daily basis, I deal with computer users
William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The nice thing about film is that it is completely transparent
technology (especially if you process a blank roll).
Or if you use one of those promotional Pentax SLRs with the clear plastic
bodies?
Film can be 100% point and shoot from the consumers
The nice thing about film is that it is completely transparent
technology (especially if you process a blank roll). Film can be
100% point and shoot from the consumers viewpoint.
I doubt very much if digital cameras will get to that point.
Technological marvels seem to invite complication.
printing
and waved her lousy print about to prove her point.
Sad
Feroze
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From: John Poirier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 3:05 AM
Subject: Re: A funny problem with digital
The nice thing about film is that it is completely
On Wednesday, October 23, 2002, at 10:43 PM, William Robb wrote:
What happens when you try to make a boring technical description
of file size (it has to be at least 1200 x 1600 pixels for an
8x10, ma'am) as simple as you can, and their eyes still glaze
over?
Maybe you could state it in a
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From: William Robb [mailto:w_robb;accesscomm.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 11:43 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: A funny problem with digital
snip
No Dave, you can't possibly be coming from the customer POV
here. You don't know little enough to be able to imagine how
little
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From: Dan Scott
Subject: Re: A funny problem with digital
Maybe you could state it in a metaphor like, you need at
least
1,920,000 colored BBs to fill up an 8x10--and you are short
quite a
few BBs, you know, something that maps to their experience.
There you
in the take my film/gimme my
DCS pictures process.
DCS Cheers,
DCS Dave
DCS -Original Message-
DCS From: William Robb [mailto:w_robb;accesscomm.ca]
DCS Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 11:43 PM
DCS To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DCS Subject: Re: A funny problem with digital
DCS snip
DCS No Dave
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From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: David Chang-Sang [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 12:25 AM
Subject: Re[2]: A funny problem with digital
David,
I see one fundamental problem here. People take their film to Walmart
because they care
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