Re: Artificial film grain (different)...

2001-09-22 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Umm, Chris, might not the grain enhancer degrade things a bit g - probably more than a good quality ND filter, don'tcha think? Chris Brogden wrote: True enough. Some may not be partial to using a faster film, especially with the attendant degradation from the ND filter, but that could work

Re: Artificial film grain (different)...

2001-09-22 Thread Mike Johnston
Mark R. wrote: in last month's Popular Photography that one of their monthly reader's photos had artificially enhanced grain that was achieved by shooting a normal slide, projecting it onto *sandpaper* Why in the world wouldn't someone just choose a film with a grain pattern he liked and

Re: Artificial film grain (different)...

2001-09-21 Thread Shel Belinkoff
What a crock ... Due to the industry progression of films towards extremely fine grain, photographers have often had to do without the pleasing visual effect a coarse or moderately grained image can invoke. [...] Many photographers have wanted to add the mood and drama of graininess

Re: Artificial film grain (different)...

2001-09-21 Thread Aaron Reynolds
Rob Brigham wrote: Is this idea of any interest? One of our distributors tried to get me interested in it... I passed. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users'

Re: Artificial film grain (different)...

2001-09-21 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Of course, one could always use a neutral density filter on a higher speed film and get the grain plus some of the benefits (wider aperture, slower shutter speeds) of a slower, finer grained film. Chris Brogden wrote: Well, to be fair to them the nice thing about an add-on grain filter is

Re: Artificial film grain (different)...

2001-09-21 Thread Juan J. Buhler
So you have to keep the thing inside the camera for the whole roll. Great idea. And I like this phrase: transforming ordinary images into extraordinary works of art. Whohoo! I'm calling the MOMA right now! j -- ---

Re: Artificial film grain (different)...

2001-09-21 Thread Bill D. Casselberry
Shel wrote: What a crock ... bunch 'o advert stuff deleted for brevity Color film? What do i know, but I'm sure there are at least several color films that offer moderate to course grain. May I humbly suggest Fuji 1600 (Oh, you said moderate grain, sorry ;^)

Re: Artificial film grain (different)...

2001-09-21 Thread Chris Brogden
On Fri, 21 Sep 2001, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Tri-X, Agfapan 400, Kodak 2475 Recording Film, Ilford HP-5 and HP-5+, Neopan 1600, Delta 3200, Bergger 200, etc. And then there are numerous developers and developing techniques that can contribute to grain. Well, to be fair to them the nice thing

Re: Artificial film grain (different)...

2001-09-21 Thread Robert Harris
Aaron Reynolds wrote: Rob Brigham wrote: Is this idea of any interest? One of our distributors tried to get me interested in it... I passed. Did you test it forts? Does it really work? Or is it all hype? Bob Harris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe,

Re: Artificial film grain (different)...

2001-09-21 Thread Bruce Dayton
Yeah, the Kodak Max films. Especially the 800 speed. Bruce Dayton Sacramento, CA - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 10:39 AM Subject: Re: Artificial film grain (different)... Snip Tri-X, Agfapan 400

Re: Artificial film grain (different)...

2001-09-21 Thread Aaron Reynolds
Robert Harris wrote: Does it really work? Or is it all hype? The idea was so silly that I just passed on it after reading the brochure. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the

Re: Artificial film grain (different)...

2001-09-21 Thread Aaron Reynolds
Bill D. Casselberry wrote: May I humbly suggest Fuji 1600 (Oh, you said moderate grain, sorry ;^)Fore!!8^D ) ...or Konica 3200. As a photography teacher once said to me, in a thick Danish accent, These grains appear to be the size of chickens. To be totally

Re: Artificial film grain (different)...

2001-09-21 Thread Chris Brogden
True enough. Some may not be partial to using a faster film, especially with the attendant degradation from the ND filter, but that could work for others. chris On Fri, 21 Sep 2001, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Of course, one could always use a neutral density filter on a higher speed film and

Re: Artificial film grain (different)...

2001-09-21 Thread David A. Mann
Shel Belinkoff writes: Color film? What do i know, but I'm sure there are at least several color films that offer moderate to course grain. I've been known to deliberately underexpose 400 or 800 colour print film to get a grainy effect. It looks horrible but can be useful. You have to be